Can you guys rate me please ?

[nabk75]

Hi everyone, I’m a very shy young 23 years old man who never got lots of opportunities to get women , I did have sex a few times but it was never women I really liked , either physically or mentally.

I’m 6’2 (190 cm), some of my friends , my family always tell me I’m handsome but since I’m never getting women to tell me I don’t know if I Am or if it’s just my entourage trying to make me feel better
I’m tall I have a little muscles but I’m not jacked tho.
I don’t want to post my pictures here so if I can dm anyone to tell me what u think of me , rate me from 1 to 10 in your opinion and maybe give me advices on what I can improve, I’m an introvert btw and when I don’t have any eye contact I just can’t get myself to approach a woman bc I’m too scared to be rejected, my self esteem is really really low it’s crazy .
Thank you for reading

 

[NZb6Air]

Chadlite

 

[nabk75]

Chadlite

……

 

[copingvolcel]

Ok so 6'2". A few questions here if you don't mind, you claim to be muscular so...

Weight?
Waist measurement?
Flexed arm measurement?

Also post face on imgur, and embed it on here, this will allow you to remove pictures in the future if you don't want them to remain on the site.

 

[ItsOverLawg]

brb bro tryna imagine u

 

[ItsOverLawg]

i mean you are tall (190 cm is like 6'3 not 6'2)
and you did say you've had sex so you do have appeal (probably)

 

[nabk75]

I’m new here I don’t know how to send pics in dm

 

[nabk75]

Whatever I’ll post it here wait

 

[nabk75]

Here some recents pictures

 

[nabk75]

Ok so 6'2". A few questions here if you don't mind, you claim to be muscular so...

Weight?
Waist measurement?
Flexed arm measurement?

Also post face on imgur, and embed it on here, this will allow you to remove pictures in the future if you don't want them to remain on the site.

Well tbh I kinda don’t care (at least for now) about the body , I just want to know opinions about the facial attractiveness , I never measured my arms and waist

 

[nabk75]

i mean you are tall (190 cm is like 6'3 not 6'2)
and you did say you've had sex so you do have appeal (probably)

Yeah I’m from Europe I don’t know too much the feet and inches measurements

 

[ItsOverLawg]

Yeah I’m from Europe I don’t know too much the feet and inches measurements

thats the most american excuse i've ever heard

 

[nabk75]

i mean you are tall (190 cm is like 6'3 not 6'2)
and you did say you've had sex so you do have appeal (probably)

I never had sex with a girl I found attractive, just bc I needed to do it as a human with needs you know lmaooo

 

[nabk75]

thats the most american excuse i've ever heard

 

[copingvolcel]

Here some recents pictures

Normie like me. You'd look a lot better if you filled out your frame with muscle mass. Aim for something like this:

Beyond that level of muscle mass, not many women will actually care. Getting to this level may require around 2-3 years of efficient bulking. This is 2-3 consistent years where you're not taking months off from the gym. And you'd have to train to failure on every set with 0 reps in reserve.

You want a bodybuilding program that will add size in the right areas, not the typical programs that make you bench 2 plates with 13 inch arms, since women are not going to care at how much you can lift. My favorite fitness channels are Natural Hypertrophy, Basement Bodybuilding and Geoffrey Verity Schofield, all 3 are elite naturals with 10+ years of experience in the gym, and they give great advice and they all have free programs.

 

[nabk75]

Normie like me. You'd look a lot better if you filled out your frame with muscle mass. Aim for something like this:

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Beyond that level of muscle mass, not many women will actually care. Getting to this level may require around 2-3 years of efficient bulking. This is 2-3 consistent years where you're not taking months off from the gym. And you'd have to train to failure on every set with 0 reps in reserve.

You want a bodybuilding program that will add size in the right areas, not the typical programs that make you bench 2 plates with 13 inch arms, since women are not going to care at how much you can lift. My favorite fitness channels are Natural Hypertrophy, Basement Bodybuilding and Geoffrey Verity Schofield, all 3 are elite naturals with 10+ years of experience in the gym, and they give great advice and they all have free programs.

So you’re saying if I don’t build muscle mass like this I’m screwed ?
What about all the compliments I had from my entourage saying I was handsome and charming ? Did they lie to me ?

 

[copingvolcel]

Well tbh I kinda don’t care (at least for now) about the body , I just want to know opinions about the facial attractiveness , I never measured my arms and waist

Your face is good enough but, and don't take this the wrong way, you kind of have the body shape of a teenager.
That might have worked when you were 15-16 but the older you get, the more women care about you being big because they want a man, not a little boy. Being skinny might work for someone like Chico Lachowski, but when you're a normie, you kind of have to focus on the body because that can ascend you to high tier normie, then you get on dating apps with douchey photos where you show off your muscles and women suddenly want to sleep with you.

 

[nabk75]

thats the most american excuse i've ever heard

I posted pics

 

[nabk75]

Your face is good enough but, and don't take this the wrong way, you kind of have the body shape of a teenager.
That might have worked when you were 15-16 but the older you get, the more women care about you being big because they want a man, not a little boy. Being skinny might work for someone like Chico Lachowski, but when you're a normie, you kind of have to focus on the body because that can ascend you to high normie, then you get on dating apps with douchey photos where you show off your muscles and women suddenly want to sleep with you

Your face is good enough but, and don't take this the wrong way, you kind of have the body shape of a teenager.
That might have worked when you were 15-16 but the older you get, the more women care about you being big because they want a man, not a little boy. Being skinny might work for someone like Chico Lachowski, but when you're a normie, you kind of have to focus on the body because that can ascend you to high tier normie, then you get on dating apps with douchey photos where you show off your muscles and women suddenly want to sleep with you.

I see well I didn’t expect a normie answer bc I know a lot of them and I always thought I was better at least slightly better but thank u for the advice
It takes a lot of effort for me to build muscle because I’m an ectomorph I have very long arms and long legs it’s not as easy as it is for someone shorter

 

[copingvolcel]

So you’re saying if I don’t build muscle mass like this I’m screwed ?
What about all the compliments I had from my entourage saying I was handsome and charming ? Did they lie to me ?

I get those compliments too, they're true, but they apply only to romantic relationships. Basically, if you make good money (six figure salary or better) as an adult, with your face, you can get in a relationship with a woman you're attracted to.

But if you want to attract women without having to make lots of money, you have to be really sexy, like the kind of guy they feel can take charge in bed and dominate them. Many women fantasize about being thrown around in bed and choked by a muscular guy. If you look like a skinny twig, they're not going to be turned on.

Women watch porn too. Look at the male pornstars, they're usually very muscular and ripped but they're not built like pro-bodybuilders. All you have to do is look like a pornstar and then you can fuck like a pornstar. I've seen it happen. My little brother has a friend who used to be fat who got muscular and he would get hundreds of matches on Tinder in a very short time, and he went on so many dates and got laid so many times. But before he got muscular, women wanted nothing to do with him.

 

[nabk75]

I get those compliments too, they're true, but they apply only to romantic relationships. Basically, if you make good money (six figure salary or better) as an adult, with your face, you can get in a relationship with a woman you're attracted to.

But if you want to attract women without having to make lots of money, you have to be really sexy, like the kind of guy they feel can take charge in bed and dominate them. Many women fantasize about being thrown around in bed and choked by a muscular guy. If you look like a skinny twig, they're not going to be turned on.

Women watch porn too. Look at the male pornstars, they're usually very muscular and ripped but they're not built like pro-bodybuilders. All you have to do is look like a pornstar and then you can fuck like a pornstar. I've seen it happen. My little brother has a friend who used to be fat who got muscular and he would get hundreds of matches on Tinder in a very short time, and he went on so many dates and got laid so many times. But before he got muscular, women wanted nothing to do with him.

Well believe it or not I know how to fuck very well I’m not a pro but I can handle a woman well I never needed muscles for that , but of course if I improve my body I’ll be better and more attractive ,did u build muscles ? how would u rate yourself from a 1-10 scale ? And me ?

 

[copingvolcel]

I see well I didn’t expect a normie answer bc I know a lot of them and I always thought I was better at least slightly better but thank u for the advice
It takes a lot of effort for me to build muscle because I’m an ectomorph I have very long arms and long legs it’s not as easy as it is for someone shorter

No such thing as an ectomorph. Long arms will make you weak at the bench press, but strong at the deadlift.

Ultimately it doesn't even matter what your leverages are. Want big arms? Train them with high volume 2-3 times per week with at least 1 day of rest in between. Do 10-12 weekly sets to begin with, in the 8-12 rep range, going to failure (until you can't do another rep). During that time, you want to also use a 10% caloric surplus. This will not require you to forcefeed since your appetite will adapt if you train hard enough. Many guys make the mistake of not training to failure and going on a 30+% calorie surplus and then they wonder why it's so hard to eat enough.

It's not going to happen overnight. But in just 4 months, people will compliment you on your progress. Eventually, they'll shame you though, so just don't listen to them.

 

[nabk75]

No such thing as an ectomorph. Long arms will make you weak at the bench press, but strong at the deadlift.

Ultimately it doesn't even matter what your leverages are. Want big arms? Train them with high volume 2-3 times per week with at least 1 day of rest in between. Do 10-12 weekly sets to begin with, in the 8-12 rep range, going to failure (until you can't do another rep). During that time, you want to also use a 10% caloric surplus. This will not require you to forcefeed since your appetite will adapt if you train hard enough. Many guys make the mistake of not training to failure and going on a 30+% calorie surplus and then they wonder why it's so hard to eat enough.

It's not going to happen overnight. But in just 4 months, people will compliment you on your progress. Eventually, they'll shame you though, so just don't listen to them.

Heavier weights and shorter sessions then, créatine helps building muscles or is it another scam ? If there is anything like steroids do to muscles but not as dangerous for the health I’d like to know

 

[copingvolcel]

Well believe it or not I know how to fuck very well I’m not a pro but I can handle a woman well I never needed muscles for that , but of course if I improve my body I’ll be better and more attractive ,did u build muscles ? how would u rate yourself from a 1-10 scale ? And me ?

My transformation is in my signature. I'm nowhere near my goal yet but I'm pretty close. My arms look decently built when I wear a shirt. But like yours, they're very long so I'm going to need at least 16-17 inches to look big.


Also, the muscles are not so that you are strong, they're more of a biological trigger, having them signals to women you can not only dominate them but protect them from other men. From an instinctive level, it makes you more attractive than any other man who does not have this quality. Women who want to hookup will choose a muscular guy over a skinny guy any day of the week, even if the skinny guy looks cuter.

Maybe what you need is videos to see the truth in action, here are a few (look at the guy's face vs his body, many are normies in the face but the body makes them look like Chads):

 

[nabk75]

I get those compliments too, they're true, but they apply only to romantic relationships. Basically, if you make good money (six figure salary or better) as an adult, with your face, you can get in a relationship with a woman you're attracted to.

But if you want to attract women without having to make lots of money, you have to be really sexy, like the kind of guy they feel can take charge in bed and dominate them. Many women fantasize about being thrown around in bed and choked by a muscular guy. If you look like a skinny twig, they're not going to be turned on.

Women watch porn too. Look at the male pornstars, they're usually very muscular and ripped but they're not built like pro-bodybuilders. All you have to do is look like a pornstar and then you can fuck like a pornstar. I've seen it happen. My little brother has a friend who used to be fat who got muscular and he would get hundreds of matches on Tinder in a very short time, and he went on so many dates and got laid so many times. But before he got muscular, women wanted nothing to do with him.

I’ll post another thread I need as much people to rate me I need many opinions

 

[ItsOverLawg]

I posted pics

where are they?

 

[nabk75]

My transformation is in my signature. I'm nowhere near my goal yet but I'm pretty close. My arms look decently built when I wear a shirt. But like yours, they're very long so I'm going to need at least 16-17 inches to look big.


Also, the muscles are not so that you are strong, they're more of a biological trigger, having them signals to women you can not only dominate them but protect them from other men. From an instinctive level, it makes you more attractive than any other man who does not have this quality. Women who want to hookup will choose a muscular guy over a skinny guy any day of the week, even if the skinny guy looks cuter.

Maybe what you need is videos to see the truth in action, here are a few (look at the guy's face vs his body, many are normies in the face but the body makes them look like Chads):

Thank u !!!!

 

[nabk75]

where are they?

Up there in the conversation go look

 

[ItsOverLawg]

My transformation is in my signature. I'm nowhere near my goal yet but I'm pretty close. My arms look decently built when I wear a shirt. But like yours, they're very long so I'm going to need at least 16-17 inches to look big.


Also, the muscles are not so that you are strong, they're more of a biological trigger, having them signals to women you can not only dominate them but protect them from other men. From an instinctive level, it makes you more attractive than any other man who does not have this quality. Women who want to hookup will choose a muscular guy over a skinny guy any day of the week, even if the skinny guy looks cuter.

Maybe what you need is videos to see the truth in action, here are a few (look at the guy's face vs his body, many are normies in the face but the body makes them look like Chads):

bro added a pornstar and thought we wouldnt notice

 

[ItsOverLawg]

Here some recents pictures

i dont see how this isnt HTN or lowish chadlitish
your tall skull is carrying u

 

[copingvolcel]

Heavier weights and shorter sessions then, créatine helps building muscles or is it another scam ? If there is anything like steroids do to muscles but not as dangerous for the health I’d like to know

Creatine boosts performance so it's a good supplement but it doesn't suddenly make you muscular, it just means that if in a year you would have built 16 lbs of muscle, you may build 20 lbs of muscle instead.

Also, it's not about heavy weights, what you want is sets of 8-12 reps or 6-10 reps, where you go to failure on each set, and it's not about how much you lift but say you manage to surpass the rep range by doing 14 reps for the 8-12 rep range, then you increase the weight to remain in the rep range. 5-30 reps builds muscle but the closer you get to 30, the more limited you are by your endurance, which leads to less gains.

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[nabk75]

i dont see how this isnt HTN or lowish chadlitish
your tall skull is carrying u

Sorry I didn’t understand clearly , what do u mean ???

 

[ItsOverLawg]

Sorry I didn’t understand clearly , what do u mean ???

that means in IRL terms you'd be what females say is a 8/10 man maybe even 9/10 ion know

 

[copingvolcel]

Thank u !!!!

You're welcome. Personally, back when I was 18, I knew muscles mattered, my little sister even would tell me I should go to the gym and I never listened. My mom would tell me I don't need muscles, my grandma would tell me muscles are disgusting.

The truth is, women have different preferences, some dislike muscles and some love it. But on average, women prefer a muscular ripped physique than a lanky skinny body. Usually, this applies to hookups but hookups can easily turn into long term relationships afterwards. Used to know a guy on here by the username of @fogdart don't know if he is still active, but he basically looks like the average black guy you might see walking around in any African country, but due to his muscular ripped physique, he gets a ton of matches on Tinder. Women thirst for muscles on Tinder.

 

[nabk75]

that means in IRL terms you'd be what females say is a 8/10 man maybe even 9/10 ion know

Reallyyyy that’s very nice of you thank u , u literally made my day

 

[ItsOverLawg]

Reallyyyy that’s very nice of you thank u , u literally made my day

but u got work to do tho too

 

[nabk75]

You're welcome. Personally, back when I was 18, I knew muscles mattered, my little sister even would tell me I should go to the gym and I never listened. My mom would tell me I don't need muscles, my grandma would tell me muscles are disgusting.

The truth is, women have different preferences, some dislike muscles and some love it. But on average, women prefer a muscular ripped physique than a lanky skinny body. Usually, this applies to hookups but hookups can easily turn into long term relationships afterwards. Used to know a guy on here by the username of @fogdart don't know if he is still active, but he basically looks like the average black guy you might see walking around in any African country, but due to his muscular ripped physique, he gets a ton of matches on Tinder. Women thirst for muscles on Tinder.

Thanks man I hope I’ll be able to do those reps u told me about , I often lose motivation but I guess it’s all a mindset I’ll go check those videos

 

[nabk75]

but u got work to do tho too

I know I do

 

[copingvolcel]

Thanks man I hope I’ll be able to do those reps u told me about , I often lose motivation but I guess it’s all a mindset I’ll go check those videos

One thing that helped me a lot in gymmaxxing is getting a home gym, it's easier to be consistent when your equipment is at home and you don't have to commute to a gym. I use a bluetooth speaker and put my own music and it's great. I can eat right after lifting, and then take a shower in the privacy of my own home. If you have a busy work schedule or study schedule, this is ideal.

It doesn't have to cost thousands either. All you need is 2 bowflex dumbbells, a solid flat bench, and you can do every muscle group. For legs, you can do bulgarian split squats, lunges or even goblet squats. For upper body: bench press, shoulder press, single arm rows, overhead tricep extensions, bicep curls, reverse curls.

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Total: 485.70 USD (basically the price of a PS5)

 

[nabk75]

You're welcome. Personally, back when I was 18, I knew muscles mattered, my little sister even would tell me I should go to the gym and I never listened. My mom would tell me I don't need muscles, my grandma would tell me muscles are disgusting.

The truth is, women have different preferences, some dislike muscles and some love it. But on average, women prefer a muscular ripped physique than a lanky skinny body. Usually, this applies to hookups but hookups can easily turn into long term relationships afterwards. Used to know a guy on here by the username of @fogdart don't know if he is still active, but he basically looks like the average black guy you might see walking around in any African country, but due to his muscular ripped physique, he gets a ton of matches on Tinder. Women thirst for muscles on Tinder.

Hi again bro so in your opinion I wanted to know how much lbs I should aim when I’m 6’2 ? In order to make a very good difference and look muscular ?

 

[copingvolcel]

Hi again bro so in your opinion I wanted to know how much lbs I should aim when I’m 6’2 ? In order to make a very good difference and look muscular ?

FFMI is a good indicator of muscular potential. You can calculate yours here: https://ffmicalculator.org/

Waist size is how you'll determine body fat percentage. A waist that is 43-44% of your height will be 10%, and a waist that is 50% of your height will be 20-22%. Simply measure your waist and your weight and enter them in the calculator.

This will not happen overnight though, you'll want to gain 2lbs per month. In 1 year, that translates to 24 lbs gained, more than half of that will be muscle if you train hard and properly and with enough volume and recover properly (sleep and eat enough). You need to cut when your waist becomes as big as 48% of your height to not become fat.

The key to building muscle is training to failure with enough volume to both grow and recover from. That will usually be 3 sets per muscle group twice a week, except if your arms aren't growing, it might be more beneficial to do 5 sets 2-3 times per week for them. Chest will grow just fine with 3 sets of bench press twice a week. Machines are also a viable option.