can you have a good, positive orbital vector, yet still have dark circles under you're eyes ?

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if yes then what are the reasons?
 
Yes you can, lack of undereye bone support will cause dark circles.
 
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Yes I have positive vector but recessed midface and no lateral cheek projection. I was told fixing that will help but not eliminate them because it can be due to poor lymph draining as well.
 
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Yes I have positive vector but recessed midface and no lateral cheek projection. I was told fixing that will help but not eliminate them because it can be due to poor lymph draining as well.

You need more forward projection as well then, of your zygos
 
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You need more forward projection as well then, of your zygos

Yes I will be getting custom cheek implants for this purpose and also to slightly increase fwhr. Decided against infraorbital add on because I already have a positive vector so that's pointless.
 
Yes I will be getting custom cheek implants for this purpose and also to slightly increase fwhr. Decided against infraorbital add on because I already have a positive vector so that's pointless.

Keep in mind skin thickness also in that area. It might look very fake and you will look like a ken doll if your implants are too big. You should probably start on the smaller side, even subtle changes can make a huge impact. Also keep es ratio in mind. Its a good way to fix dark circles and undereye lines tho 👍🏻
 
Keep in mind skin thickness also in that area. It might look very fake and you will look like a ken doll if your implants are too big. You should probably start on the smaller side, even subtle changes can make a huge impact. Also keep es ratio in mind. Its a good way to fix dark circles and undereye lines tho 👍🏻

Ya I went with eppley and he said the same thing (despite all his monsters who don't heed his advice) so I'll err on smaller rather than larger although I think my skin is a bit thick.

And ya I'm limited by the es ratio but I don't think my fwhr will increase enough to make the es ratio fall below 0.42 anyways so I'm fine. The morph he showed me was actually really quite good on the lateral projection.
 
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Keep in mind skin thickness also in that area. It might look very fake and you will look like a ken doll if your implants are too big. You should probably start on the smaller side, even subtle changes can make a huge impact. Also keep es ratio in mind. Its a good way to fix dark circles and undereye lines tho 👍🏻
Reason no one should get zygos implants is you can ruin your eye spacing. Most people forget about ES ratio.
 
Reason no one should get zygos implants is you can ruin your eye spacing. Most people forget about ES ratio.
if you have wide ipd wouldnt bigger zygos improve es ratio?
 
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if you have wide ipd wouldnt bigger zygos improve es ratio?
Yea. Zygos implants can either benefit your eye spacing or totally ruin it.
 
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Reason no one should get zygos implants is you can ruin your eye spacing. Most people forget about ES ratio.

Ye also FWHR but increasing isnt a problem for most
 

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