Can you have ideal ratios but still have a shit maxilla forward growth?

[biggestlooksmaxxer]

Legit ideal in every aspect: jaw angle, facial thirds, convexity angles, etc.

 

[Evgeniy291]

Chico lachowski

 

[nopotential]

yeah but if ure maxilla is extremly reccesed it will make the rest of ur face downgrown (some genetic exceptions), part from that yes its possible

 

[biggestlooksmaxxer]

Chico lachowski

It doesn't look like his maxilla is shit though from his side profile

 

[rrm_ss2]

Legit ideal in every aspect: jaw angle, facial thirds, convexity angles, etc.

not everything will be ideal since the maxilla will effect the midface, nasel and eyes

 

[nopotential]

It doesn't look like his maxilla is shit though from his side profile

he does have a shit maxilla, the pics u prob seeing are the ones hes at a lower bfwhich makes him look not recessed but he has a shit maxilla

 

[biggestlooksmaxxer]

View attachment 3611874 he does have a shit maxilla, the pics u prob seeing are the ones hes at a lower bfwhich makes him look not recessed but he has a shit maxilla

Still looks fine to me tbh

 

[Evgeniy291]

It doesn't look like his maxilla is shit though from his side profile

Could say its way above average irl but on org his side would get rated as hmtn

 

[biggestlooksmaxxer]

Could say its way above average irl but on org his side would get rated as hmtn

Who has an ideal maxilla development? Would it be someone like Jordan Barrett?

 

[Evgeniy291]

Who has an ideal maxilla development? Would it be someone like Jordan Barrett?

Meeeeee

 

[nopotential]

Still looks fine to me tbh

yeah its not horrendous, but its still bad

 

[soggra]

Who has an ideal maxilla development? Would it be someone like Jordan Barrett?

Yea. Jordan Barret and Richard Ramirez are good examples. Megan Roche also has a insane maxilla for a female

 

[soggra]

Could say its way above average irl but on org his side would get rated as hmtn

His side profile is LTN tier tbh

 

[fatweewee123]

View attachment 3611874 he does have a shit maxilla, the pics u prob seeing are the ones hes at a lower bfwhich makes him look not recessed but he has a shit maxilla

average maxilla is not even that much of a flaw. Most people youll see have an average or recessed maxilla

 

[Evgeniy291]

His side profile is LTN tier tbh

 

[soggra]

View attachment 3611882

That’s subhuman. Not even LTN

 

[fatweewee123]

Yea. Jordan Barret and Richard Ramirez are good examples. Megan Roche also has a insane maxilla for a female

barret is hardmaxxed. richard ramirez is the only one who actually has a naturally developed maxilla

 

[Evgeniy291]

That’s subhuman. Not even LTN

Spoiler

Warning disgusting

 

[nopotential]

average maxilla is not even that much of a flaw. Most people youll see have an average or recessed maxilla

yeah, but most people who have average or recessed are genetically gifted with other things like eyes and shit, you can still have average maxilla growth or even be recessed you just need to have other better than average features.

 

[soggra]

barret is hardmaxxed. richard ramirez is the only one who actually has a naturally developed maxilla

Barret has always had a good maxilla. Barret changed other things like his chin, jaw, and buccal fat through hardmaxxing but from Atleast what I can see, his maxilla remained relatively similar

 

[fatweewee123]

yeah, but most people who have average or recessed are genetically gifted with other things like eyes and shit, you can still have average maxilla growth or even be recessed you just need to have other better than average features.

you shouldnt really stress about maxilla because there is really nothing you can do about it but surgery that insurance companies dont cover jfl.

 

[fatweewee123]

Barret has always had a good maxilla. Barret changed other things like his chin, jaw, and buccal fat through hardmaxxing but from Atleast what I can see, his maxilla remained relatively similar

youre right he has but he never did have good forward growth in his mandible like ramirez did

 

[nopotential]

you shouldnt really stress about maxilla because there is really nothing you can do about it but surgery that insurance companies dont cover jfl.

lefort is the only way