Can you train your shoulder almost every day?

[Romeo1111]

I want to get a wider frame is it possible to just train shoulders almost every day? Or will it put to much pressure to the shoulders?

 

[skullmog]

I want to get a wider frame is it possible to just train shoulders almost every day? Or will it put to much pressure to the shoulders?

u talking about nucleus overload
id give it a try just do heavy ass sets with low reps and low volume so you dont accumulate much fatigue and have a easier time recovering
preferably just do a machine lateral raise

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

u talking about nucleus overload
id give it a try just do heavy ass sets with low reps and low volume so you dont accumulate much fatigue and have a easier time recovering
preferably just do a machine lateral raise

I thought for nucleus overload you should train light and not to failure, with short rest time

 

[skullmog]

I thought for nucleus overload you should train light and not to failure, with short rest time

idk i thought it was just training every day
but training light with higher reps will fatigue you more so thats shit

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

I want to get a wider frame is it possible to just train shoulders almost every day? Or will it put to much pressure to the shoulders?

Muscle growth happen during sleep, no point training again if you body didn't finish to repait your muscle tissue. I wouldn't go more often than evrey other day

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

idk i thought it was just training every day
but training light with higher reps will fatigue you more so thats shit

nah cuz you'll be far from failure
and heavy lateral raises is counterproductive, you'll just cheat or smth, would only recommand if you have exp with lifting already

 

[skullmog]

nah cuz you'll be far from failure
and heavy lateral raises is counterproductive, you'll just cheat or smth, would only recommand if you have exp with lifting already

wdym, how would you be far
on a machine you cant cheat nearly as much

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

wdym, how would you be far

because you don't want fatigue. You're not training to break down muscle tissue with nucleus overload so no need to go to failure.
Since nucleus overload = high volume and high frequency, you have to drop the intensity,

on a machine you cant cheat nearly as much

ok go do heavy (5 reps or so I imagine) lat raises on 2 days in a row and tell me if you managed to do same weight same reps. If you did, congrats, do it for 5 more days

 

[skullmog]

because you don't want fatigue. You're not training to break down muscle tissue with nucleus overload so no need to go to failure.
Since nucleus overload = high volume and high frequency, you have to drop the intensity,

muscle breakdown causing hypertrophy is a known myth
also i dont think failure is necessary almost always (2-0 rir) is probably best

ok go do heavy (5 reps or so I imagine) lat raises on 2 days in a row and tell me if you managed to do same weight same reps. If you did, congrats, do it for 5 more days

i said low volume for a reason. its easier to recover from as long as you sleep correctly

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

muscle breakdown causing hypertrophy is a known myth
also i dont think failure is necessary almost always (2-0 rir) is probably best

i said low volume for a reason. its easier to recover from as long as you sleep correctly

Low volume is trash.
Really, do it, train your shoulder heavy multiple days in a row and see how fast your strength & perfs crumble you'll quickly figure how counterproductive it is.

 

[skullmog]

h

Low volume is trash.
Really, do it, train your shoulder heavy multiple days in a row and see how fast your strength & perfs crumble you'll quickly figure how counterproductive it is.

explain how low volume is trash

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

h

explain how low volume is trash

can't bother, look at literally every muscle building evidence from 50 years ago till now on natty and roided culturists and novice trainers, Mid to high volume is necessary.

Inb4 Muh Mentez muh Yates, ok go take meth before your workout to reach the necessary intensity to match the severe lack of volume

 

[david6002]

I want to get a wider frame is it possible to just train shoulders almost every day? Or will it put to much pressure to the shoulders?

i have wide clavicles and almost do not train shoulders at all
the bones are those that give u wide shoulders, training a muscles wont help much...
21inch btw

 

[skullmog]

can't bother, look at literally every muscle building evidence from 50 years ago till now on natty and roided culturists and novice trainers, Mid to high volume is necessary.

Inb4 Muh Mentez muh Yates, ok go take meth before your workout to reach the necessary intensity to match the severe lack of volume

nobody listens to yates or mentzer anymore
they preached a bro split and just low frequency in general.
obviously high volume is a bit more stimulating but it takes longer to recover meaning you cant train as often.

who do you think will make more gains, someone that does fb 3x a week or ppl 6x a week
you have 156 chances to hit everything with fb compared to ppl which is about 104

also higher volume isnt as stimulating as you think since your already fatigued from previous sets

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

nobody listens to yates or mentzer anymore
they preached a bro split and just low frequency in general.
obviously high volume is a bit more stimulating but it takes longer to recover meaning you cant train as often.

who do you think will make more gains, someone that does fb 3x a week or ppl 6x a week

From experience PPL
Impossible to get decent volume with 3xfb without spending 2h+ in the gym and impossible to train hard for that long so it's better to do shorter more focused days.

you have 156 chances to hit everything with fb compared to ppl which is about 104

Count the effective sets & reps instead of days and you'll see how it doesn't work out

also higher volume isnt as stimulating as you think since your already fatigued from previous sets

Of course, 10 sets max per muscle group per day and on diff movment patterns

send me you training plan pls

 

[skullmog]

From experience PPL
Impossible to get decent volume with 3xfb without spending 2h+ in the gym and impossible to train hard for that long so it's better to do shorter more focused days.

tbh i kinda agree here. i do upper lower

Count the effective sets & reps instead of days and you'll see how it doesn't work out

wdym.

send me you training plan pls

cant rn

 

[svarddre]

Make sure you’re doing a lot of band work for your rotator cuff. Internal and external rotations, etc.