canthoplasty morph before consultation

[zygosmasher12]

im planning on getting canthoplasty in the very near future (rhinoplasty is also in my future plans). i made a morph on an app and wondering if these results are good, im not trying to get major movement just a slight improvement of tilt. my infras are also recessed so possibly a fat grafting which i was unable to find a good way to morph but will need to see anyway since im on nic and the likelyhood of them doing it is very low even if i quit. also should i show these pics to the surgeon? idk if ill look like a retard showing them morphs

 

[yussimania]

not worth it if that's what your going for and also you did it wrong, morph the lateral canthus not the medial one.

and yes you will look like a retard showing them this you haven't researched this properly. You like many others are why people get botched because you don't even know what part will be affected and how it will be affected during surgery.

I suggest you research this more before even thinking about emailing or consulting with a specialist.

 

[zygosmasher12]

not worth it if that's what your going for and also you did it wrong, morph the lateral canthus not the medial one.

and yes you will look like a retard showing them this you haven't researched this properly. You like many others are why people get botched because you don't even know what part will be affected and how it will be affected during surgery.

I suggest you research this more before even thinking about emailing or consulting with a specialist.

man the app is shit then thats probably why but the lateral canthus did get morphed and wouldnt then the medial canthus also move?

 

[zygosmasher12]

and yes you will look like a retard showing them this you haven't researched this properly. You like many others are why people get botched because you don't even know what part will be affected and how it will be affected during surgery.

I suggest you research this more before even thinking about emailing or consulting with a specialist.

bah ok i wont show them yeah fine i just did it to see what it could like because the clinic im going to doesnt do pre op renders, my main problem is assymetry and lower eyelid droop which ive seen on before and afters get fixed, having a few mm of positive tilt would also be a positive ofcourse. i just dont know how to morph properly i just went on an app and increased the tilt of my eyes i wanted to know if its realistic or not, not that thats the result i expect

 

[yussimania]

bah ok i wont show them yeah fine i just did it to see what it could like because the clinic im going to doesnt do pre op renders, my main problem is assymetry and lower eyelid droop which ive seen on before and afters get fixed, having a few mm of positive tilt would also be a positive ofcourse. i just dont know how to morph properly i just went on an app and increased the tilt of my eyes i wanted to know if its realistic or not, not that thats the result i expect

Rhino first your nose is too bulbous.

Also you should thicken your eyebrows through topical minoxidil.

Thread 'My BROWS and LASHES have made serious gains in 3 months [with b4 and after pics]' https://looksmax.org/threads/my-bro...s-in-3-months-with-b4-and-after-pics.1740971/

If it doesn't give desired results then look into microblading the eyebrows.

Then look into canthoplasty with upper eye fat grafting.

Infraorbital implants can also help in conjunction with a form of lower lid retraction (an umbrella term) to reduce scleral show and give support.

Give me a rep (thumbs up for this and the previous answer btw)

man the app is shit then thats probably why but the lateral canthus did get morphed and wouldnt then the medial canthus also move?

google is free bro

 

[zygosmasher12]

Rhino first your nose is too bulbous.

Also you should thicken your eyebrows through topical minoxidil.

Then look into canthoplasty with upper eye fat grafting.

rhino is in my future plans but its more expensive than cantho/ fat graft and takes longer, ive already fixed my eyebrows these are pics i sent to the clinic a few months ago. plus what you mean google is free yeah i know already the before and afters but i cant morph myself yeah i tried i didnt know if it was realistic thats why i made the post in the first place

 

[vermicel]

im planning on getting canthoplasty in the very near future (rhinoplasty is also in my future plans)

i just dont know how to morph properly

I redid your morph with still a minor movement and without altering the medial canthus :

Arguably, the rhinoplasty will have a much bigger impact on your overall harmony. Here's how it could turn out :

I also cleared your skin and reduced the dryness of your lower lip btw. Please consider tretinoin or something else to refine your skin texture and get rid of the blemishes. And use a lip balm ; maybe a slightly tinted one, in order to increase the red tinge of your lips, which will improve your overall coloring and perceived health indicators.

As you can see below, the outer end of the alar base now aligns with the medial canthus. And the new mouth-to-nose width ratio is 1.375, just a tiny bit out of the ideal range (1.4-1.5).

While we're at it, consider dyeing your eyebrows in a darker shade (mid/dark brown) to further improve your eye region. Your eyebrows have good height, but they are sparse and depigmented. Besides a dye, you may want to give microneedling and minoxidil a try to increase density.

 

[zygosmasher12]

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I also cleared your skin and reduced the dryness of your lower lip btw. Please consider tretinoin or something else to refine your skin texture and get rid of the blemishes. And use a lip balm ; maybe a slightly tinted one, in order to increase the red tinge of your lips, which will improve your overall coloring and perceived health indicators.

As you can see below, the outer end of the alar base now aligns with the medial canthus. And the new mouth-to-nose width ratio is 1.375, just a tiny bit out of the ideal range (1.4-1.5).

damn yeah that morph is a lot better, thanks a lot! my mum is a dermatologist so shes already doing my skin for me its looking a lot
better since then that was before i started proper looksmaxing and yeah i also did dye my eyebrows heres how it looks now

 

[vermicel]

my mum is a dermatologist so shes already doing my skin for me its looking a lot
better since then

Props to your mom, your skin looks better indeed. Your lower lip still looks a bit chapped though.

Regarding the eyebrows, I would suggest not to dye the top part or to shape them in order to reduce the height, because they look a bit overwhelming on that picture. Especially as your eyebrows naturally sit high above your eyes ; you don't want them to spread too far upward.

Another lead for improvement : based on the 2 pictures you have provided in this thread, your chin seems to be lacking a bit of downward growth and width. If it were confirmed, your options would be fillers, genioplasty, or implant.

In the morph below, these points are addressed, and the cantho + rhino as well :

 

[zygosmasher12]

Props to your mom, your skin looks better indeed. Your lower lip still looks a bit chapped though.

Regarding the eyebrows, I would suggest not to dye the top part or to shape them in order to reduce the height, because they look a bit overwhelming on that picture. Especially as your eyebrows naturally sit high above your eyes ; you don't want them to spread too far upward.

Another lead for improvement : based on the 2 pictures you have provided in this thread, your chin seems to be lacking a bit of downward growth and width. If it were confirmed, your options would be fillers, genioplasty, or implant.

In the morph below, these points are addressed, and the cantho + rhino as well :

View attachment 4407199

thanks man, my lower third is definitely off balance with my mid third so chin improvement could definitely be something id look into the future. do you recommend just using a safety razor on the top part and just slightly slimming it down or how should i go about it?

 

[vermicel]

do you recommend just using a safety razor on the top part and just slightly slimming it down or how should i go about it?

You don't want your eyebrows to look done. It's gay. So avoid using a razor, as it will give too much of a neat outline (gay !).
Instead, pluck the excess with tweezers and leave some of it to create a transition in density with the eyebrow below. When it eventually grows back, leave it undyed and see if it works that way (the less you gotta do in your routine, the better it is for your mental health). If it doesn't work out, then pluck it again. I'm no expert at grooming, but this is how I would go about it.

 

[zygosmasher12]

You don't want your eyebrows to look done. It's gay. So avoid using a razor, as it will give too much of a neat outline (gay !).
Instead, pluck the excess with tweezers and leave some of it to create a transition in density with the eyebrow below. When it eventually grows back, leave it undyed and see if it works that way (the less you gotta do in your routine, the better it is for your mental health). If it doesn't work out, then pluck it again. I'm no expert at grooming, but this is how I would go about it.

fine, im no expert either but fuck it ill give it a shot thanks bro

 

[vermicel]

ill give it a shot

Just don't overdo it. Sure, it'll grow back, but you might as well avoid looking weird for a couple of weeks.
You can take a look again at my morph a couple of posts above and use it as a guideline.

There may be several ratios for optimal eyebrows, but, off the top of my head, I can only remember that the medial eyebrow should ideally form a straight line until it reaches approximately the lateral canthus and then rises slightly at a 10° angle (this is applicable to men, not women).

If you look at the altered pic below, this is more or less what's going on :

 

[Soter]

I redid your morph with still a minor movement and without altering the medial canthus :

View attachment 4407050

Arguably, the rhinoplasty will have a much bigger impact on your overall harmony. Here's how it could turn out :

View attachment 4407051

I also cleared your skin and reduced the dryness of your lower lip btw. Please consider tretinoin or something else to refine your skin texture and get rid of the blemishes. And use a lip balm ; maybe a slightly tinted one, in order to increase the red tinge of your lips, which will improve your overall coloring and perceived health indicators.

As you can see below, the outer end of the alar base now aligns with the medial canthus. And the new mouth-to-nose width ratio is 1.375, just a tiny bit out of the ideal range (1.4-1.5).

View attachment 4407057

While we're at it, consider dyeing your eyebrows in a darker shade (mid/dark brown) to further improve your eye region. Your eyebrows have good height, but they are sparse and depigmented. Besides a dye, you may want to give microneedling and minoxidil a try to increase density.

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mirin, holy shit you are really kind to give out high quality and effort morphs and advice to people for free

 

[zygosmasher12]

Just don't overdo it. Sure, it'll grow back, but you might as well avoid looking weird for a couple of weeks.
You can take a look again at my morph a couple of posts above and use it as a guideline.

There may be several ratios for optimal eyebrows, but, off the top of my head, I can only remember that the medial eyebrow should ideally form a straight line until it reaches approximately the lateral canthus and then rises slightly at a 10° angle (this is applicable to men, not women).

If you look at the altered pic below, this is more or less what's going on :

View attachment 4408089

this is what i have so far the tick is the side i done, seems good enough no?

 

[zygosmasher12]

mirin, holy shit you are really kind to give out high quality and effort morphs and advice to people for free

yeah hes goated. high iq for sure. finally someone on this org

 

[zygosmasher12]

Just don't overdo it. Sure, it'll grow back, but you might as well avoid looking weird for a couple of weeks.
You can take a look again at my morph a couple of posts above and use it as a guideline.

There may be several ratios for optimal eyebrows, but, off the top of my head, I can only remember that the medial eyebrow should ideally form a straight line until it reaches approximately the lateral canthus and then rises slightly at a 10° angle (this is applicable to men, not women).

If you look at the altered pic below, this is more or less what's going on :

View attachment 4408089

i trimmed the brows down, not a crazy difference but it looks better yeah, i didnt wanna do too much and look like a retard because i have to look somewhat good at my job so here is the final result, lmk if i should do it more

 

[vermicel]

mirin, holy shit you are really kind to give out high quality and effort morphs and advice to people for free

I suck at shitposting and my understanding of most surgeries is still too superficial to engage in technical debates, so these morphs are my way to add something to the conversation ig.

Also, when someone makes the effort to post their full face here, and genuinely asks for help & advice, I think they deserve a little extra attention and some sort of reward.
Moreover, it's quite entertaining to see how a few alterations can impact a face. I enjoy the process of "fixing" features ; following ideal ratios while also respecting individual particularities, in an attempt to achieve a relatively realistic visual (instead of slapping the generic chad face onto everyone).

this is what i have so far the tick is the side i done, seems good enough no?

Ah ! Even the unplucked eyebrow looks fine on this picture. Much less overwhelming than on the previous picture. If that is close(r) to reality, then you could have left it untouched. But the plucked eyebrow looks fine too, so it's not like you messed up badly. Let it grow back and you'll figure it out.

yeah hes goated. high iq for sure. finally someone on this org

You're being too kind. And unfair to many better users of this subforum. Those are probably tired of answering beginners' questions over and over ; while I'm just a grey, fresh out of the box ... not jaded yet.

i trimmed the brows down, not a crazy difference but it looks better yeah, i didnt wanna do too much and look like a retard because i have to look somewhat good at my job so here is the final result, lmk if i should do it more

You did a good job, nothing to worry about. As said above, the starting point wasn't that bad actually.

 

[zygosmasher12]

I suck at shitposting and my understanding of most surgeries is still too superficial to engage in technical debates, so these morphs are my way to add something to the conversation ig.

Also, when someone makes the effort to post their full face here, and genuinely asks for help & advice, I think they deserve a little extra attention and some sort of reward.
Moreover, it's quite entertaining to see how a few alterations can impact a face. I enjoy the process of "fixing" features ; following ideal ratios while also respecting individual particularities, in an attempt to achieve a relatively realistic visual (instead of slapping the generic chad face onto everyone).


Ah ! Even the unplucked eyebrow looks fine on this picture. Much less overwhelming than on the previous picture. If that is close(r) to reality, then you could have left it untouched. But the plucked eyebrow looks fine too, so it's not like you messed up badly. Let it grow back and you'll figure it out.


You're being too kind. And unfair to many better users of this subforum. Those are probably tired of answering similar questions over and over ; while I'm just a grey, fresh out of the box ... not jaded yet.



You did a good job, nothing to worry about. As said above, the starting point wasn't that bad actually.

thanks a lot for everything bhai, good luck to you and hope to see you around!

 

[vermicel]

@zygosmasher12 one last morph, while we're at it :

Same stuff as earlier :
cantho
rhino
redder tinge for the lips
augmented chin (2.0 chin-to-philtrum height ratio)

And also a couple of new suggestions :
(1) denser eyebrows around the inner ends, to reduce eyebrow spacing, which would frame your eyes better ; could be achieved with a growth factor like minoxidil (+ microneedling) ; some people say castor oil works too, but if it does, I doubt it's as efficient as minoxidil (it's good for the hair's health though).
(2) wider neck. The optimal neck-to-jaw width ratio is >90 %. In all likelihood, this photo has some lens distortion going on, because you took it too close to your face, but let's assume that it's not too far from reality : in that case, you could exercise your neck to widen it. Of course, you could do that along other fitness exercises, but it's not mandatory. Although, I must say, if your pfp is unfrauded, then you already have a pretty thick neck from the side !

Without lens distortion, I guess that your bigonial-to-bizygomatic ratio is pretty alright. Your lower jaw, independently of the chin, seems wide enough.

See you around !

 

[zygosmasher12]

(2) wider neck. The optimal neck-to-jaw width ratio is >90 %. In all likelihood, this photo has some lens distortion going on, because you took it too close to your face, but let's assume that it's not too far from reality : in that case, you could exercise your neck to widen it. Of course, you could do that along other fitness exercises, but it's not mandatory. Although, I must say, if your pfp is unfrauded, then you already have a pretty thick neck from the side !

thanks bro , my sport requires me to have a very strong neck and weigh very light so yeah its unfrauded its pretty thick, my head is really big and i am super skinny so its kind of an illusion but i am on a bulk atm and will be gaining 10kg so my neck should also follow suit and it will be perfect for aesthetics. thanks bud

 

[jackinthebox]

How is cantho raising your eyelids? Doesn't it only raise your lower lid? That's why this shit often looks weird

 

[zygosmasher12]

How is cantho raising your eyelids? Doesn't it only raise your lower lid? That's why this shit often looks weirdView attachment 4409855

very hard to morph lower eyelid but the actual angle will be higher like he did

 

[jackinthebox]

I think fixing your eyebrow and eyelash coloring will matter more than cantho.