caucasian harmony dataset + ideal ratios with tiers

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FACES USED

R. Lowe 1
T. Ballou 2
R. Deiss 3
F. Lachowski 4
J. Hexum 5
M. Brando 6
T. Cruise 7
A. Gavrilovic 8
G. McKay 9
V. Webster 10
J. Lewis 11
G. Aubry 12
C. Crawford 13
C. Hemsworth 14
V. Hacker 15
S. Rulli 16
B. Pitt 17
C. Martini 18
J. Rio 19
M. Pishek 20
B. Ozcivit 21
A. Salih 22
T. Maher 23
M. Bomer 24
R. Harvey 25
O. Guessoum 26
C. Alborzian 27
L. Stacey 28
Z. Phillips 29
R. Cortada 30
F. Ljungberg 31
P. Walker 32
V. Basso 33
Z. Malik 34
A. Dellisola 35
C. Haynes 36
N. Bateman 37
D. Gandy 38
A. Delon 39
P. Wesley 40
C. Pine 41
H. Drago 42
R. Pattinson 43
J. Kortajarena 44
A. Gustavsson 45

OUTER SKULL PROPORTIONS

• (t2 -2.5, t3 -5, t4 7.5, t5 -10, t6 -15, t7 -20)

/ skull 90

tfwhr
bitemporal
bigonial
bitemporal : bigonial
fh : bitemporal
fh : bigonial
jfa
cheekbone set
mouth-gonion assessment

INNER SKULL PROPORTIONS

/ midface 70

esr
fwhr
nwhr
nose : philtrum
iaa
eme
icd : alar base

/ full face 80

upper third
middle third
lower third
full third distribution
lower full face
lower third proportion
chin : philtrum
iaa : jfa deviation

MISCELLANEOUS

/ eyes + eyebrows 90

eye aspect
canthal tilt
pfl : bizygo
icd
ibd : icd
ocd
obd : ocd
brow tilt
brow set

/ nose + mouth 60

mouth-nose
nose : bizygo
upper : lower lip
mouth-bigonial
oral comm. assessment
mouth : lower third

TIERS

OUTER SKULL

tfwhr

• 1.12> - T7
• 1.13-1.17 - T6
• 1.17-1.20 - T5
• 1.21-1.24 - T4
• 1.25-1.28 - T3
• 1.29-1.32 - T2
• 1.33-1.36 - T1
• 1.37-1.40 - T2
• 1.41-1.45 - T3
• 1.46-1.50 - T4
• 1.51-1.56 - T5
• 1.57-1.63 - T6
• 1.64< - T7

bitemporal

• 0.62> - T6
• 0.63-0.68 - T5
• 0.68-0.73 - T4
• 0.73-0.78 - T3
• 0.79-0.84 - T2
• 0.85-0.90 - T1
• .91-0.96 - T2
• 0.97-1.02 - T3
• 1.03-1.08 - T4
• 1.09-1.13 - T5
• 1.14< - T6

bigonial

• 0.73> - T7
• 0.74-0.75 - T6
• 0.76-0.77 - T5
• 0.78-0.79 - T4
• 0.80-0.81 - T3
• 0.82-0.83 - T2
• 0.84-0.88 - T1
• 0.89-0.90 - T2
• 0.91-0.92 - T3
• 0.93-0.94 - T4
• 0.95-0.96 - T5
• 0.97-0.98 - T6
• 0.99< - T7

bitemporal : bigonial

• 0.73> - T7
• 0.74-0.78 - T6
• 0.79-0.83 - T5
• 0.84-0.88 - T4
• 0.89-0.93 - T3
• 0.94-0.98 - T2
• 0.99-1.04 - T1
• 1.05-1.09 - T2
• 1.10-1.14 - T3
• 1.15-1.19 - T4
• 1.20-1.24 - T5
• 1.25-1.29 -T6
• 1.30< - T7

fh : bitemporal

• 1.27> – T7
• 1.28–1.32 – T6
• 1.33–1.37 – T5
• 1.38–1.42 – T4
• 1.43–1.47 – T3
• 1.48–1.52 – T2
• 1.53–1.58 – T1
• 1.59–1.63 – T2
• 1.64–1.68 – T3
• 1.69–1.73 – T4
• 1.74–1.78 – T5
• 1.79–1.83 – T6
• 1.84< - T7

fh : bigonial

• 1.25> - T7
• 1.26-1.30 - T6
• 1.31-1.35 - T5
• 1.36-1.40 - T4
• 1.41-1.45 - T3
• 1.46-1.50 - T2
• 1.51-1.56 - T1
• 1.57-1.61 - T2
• 1.62-1.66 - T3
• 1.67-1.71 - T4
• 1.72-1.76 - T5
• 1.77-1.81 - T6
• 1.82< - T7

jfa

• 67> - T5
• 68-73 - T4
• 74-79 - T3
• 80-85 - T2
• 86-94 - T1
• 95-100 - T2
• 101-106 - T3
• 107-112 - T4
• 113-117 - T5
• 118< - T6

cheekbone set

• 49> - T7
• 50-55% - T6
• 56-61% - T5
• 62-67% - T4
• 68-73% - T3
• 74-79% - T2
• 80-100% - T1

mouth-gonion assessment

• gonions are way above the lip seal - T4
• gonions are noticeably above the lip seal - T3
• gonions are slightly above the lip seal - T2
• gonions line up to the lip seal/gonions are slightly below the lip seal- T1
• gonions are noticeably below the lip seal - T2

INNER SKULL

MIDFACE

esr

• 0.395> - T7
• 0.396-0.404 - T6
• 0.405-0.414 - T5
• 0.415-0.424 - T4
• 0.425-0.434 - T3
• 0.435-0.444 - T2
• 0.445-0.48 - T1
• 0.481-0.489 - T2
• 0.49-0.499 - T3
• 0.50-0.509 - T4
• 0.51-0.519 - T5
• 0.52-0.529 - T6
• 0.53< - T7

fwhr

• 1.55> - T7
• 1.55-1.63 - T6
• 1.64-1.71 - T5
• 1.72-1.78 - T4
• 1.79-1.86 - T3
• 1.86-1.91 - T2
• 1.92-1.97 - T1
• 1.98-2.03 - T2
• 2.04-2.09 - T3
• 2.10-2.16 - T4
• 2.17-2.24 - T5
• 2.24-2.32 - T6
• 2.33< T7

nwhr

• 1.23> - T7
• 1.24-1.30 - T6
• 1.31-1.37 - T5
• 1.38-1.44 - T4
• 1.45-1.51- T3
• 1.52-1.58 - T2
• 1.59-1.65 - T1
• 1.66-1.72 - T2
• 1.73-1.79 - T3
• 1.80-1.86 - T4
• 1.87-1.96 - T5
• 1.97-2.03 - T6
• 2.04< - T7

nose : philtrum

• 2.70> - T7
• 2.71-2.91 - T6
• 2.92-3.12 - T5
• 3.13-3.32 - T4
• 3.34-3.54 - T3
• 3.55-3.75 - T2
• 3.76-3.82 - T1
• 3.83-3.93 - T2
• 3.94-4.04 - T3
• 4.05-4.15 - T4
• 4.16-4.26 - T5
• 4.27-4.37 - T6
• 4.38< - T7

iaa

• 65> - T7
• 66-68 - T6
• 69-71 - T5
• 72-74 - T4
• 75-77 - T3
• 78-82 - T2
• 83-87 - T1
• 88-92 - T2
• 93-95 - T3
• 95-97 - T4
• 98-100 - T5
• 101-103 - T6
• 104< - T7

eme

• 40> - T7
• 41 - T6
• 42 - T5
• 43 - T4
• 44 - T3
• 45 - T2
• 46-48 - T1
• 49 - T2
• 50 - T3
• 51 - T4
• 52 - T5
• 53 - T6
• 54< - T7

icd : alar base

• 0.69> - T7
• 0.70-0.75 - T6
• 0.76-0.81 - T5
• 0.82-0.87 - T4
• 0.88-0.93 - T3
• 0.94-0.99 - T2
• 1.0-1.15 - T1
• 1.16-1.21 - T2
• 1.22-1.27 - T3
• 1.28-1.32 - T4
• 1.33-1.38 - T5
• 1.39-1.44 - T6
• 1.45< - T7

FULL FACE

upper third

• 20> - T7
• 21-22% - T6
• 23-24% - T5
• 25-26% - T4
• 27-28% - T3
• 29-30 - T2
• 31-33% - T1
• 34-35% - T2
• 36-37% - T3
• 38-39% - T4
• 40-41% - T5
• 42-43% - T6
• 44< - T7

middle third

• 18> - T7
• 19-20% - T6
• 21-22% - T5
• 23-24% - T4
• 25-26% - T3
• 27-28% - T2
• 29-31% - T1
• 32-33% - T2
• 34-35% - T3
• 36-37% - T4
• 38-39% - T5
• 40-41% - T6
• 42< - T7

lower third

• 24> - T7
• 25-26% - T6
• 27-28% - T5
• 29-30% - T4
• 31-32% - T3
• 33-34% - T2
• 35-37% - T1
• 38-39% - T2
• 40-41% - T3
• 42-43% - T4
• 44-45% - T5
• 46-47% - T6
• 48< - T7

full third distribution

• even/masculinized facial thirds - T1
• dominant middle third - T2
• dominant upper third - T3

lower full face

• 52> - T7
• 53-54% - T6
• 55-56% - T5
• 57-58% - T4
• 59-60% - T3
• 61-62% - T2
• 63-66% - T1
• 67-68% - T2
• 69-70% - T3
• 71-72% - T4
• 73-74% - T5
• 75-76% - T6
• 77< - T7

lower third proportion

• 24.9> - T7
• 25-25.5% - T6
• 26-26.5% - T5
• 27-27.5% - T4
• 28-28.5% - T3
• 29-29.5% - T2
• 30-33% - T1
• 33.5-34% - T2
• 34.5-35% - T3
• 35.5-36% - T4
• 36.5-37% - T5
• 37.5-38% - T6
• 38.1< - T7

chin : philtrum

• 1> - T7
• 1.1-1.2 - T6
• 1.3-1.4 - T5
• 1.5-1.6 - T4
• 1.7-1.8 - T3
• 1.9-2.0 - T2
• 2.1-2.3 - T1
• 2.4-2.7 - T2
• 2.8-3.1 - T3
• 3.2-3.5 - T4
• 3.6-3.9 - T5
• 4.0-4.3 - T6
• 4.4< - T7

iaa : jfa deviation

• 0-5 - T1
• 6-10 - T2
• 11-15 - T3
• 16-20 - T4
• 21-25 - T5
• 26-30 - T6
• 31< - T7

MISCELLANEOUS

EYES + EYEBROWS

eye aspect

• 1.9> - T5
• 2.0-2.2 - T4
• 2.3-2.5 - T3
• 2.6-2.9 - T2
• 3-3.5 - T1
• 3.6-4.1 - T2
• 4.2-4.7 - T3
• 4.8-5.3 - T4
• 5.4-5.9 - T5
• 6< - T6

canthal tilt

• -12> - T7
• -11–9 - T6
• -8–6 - T5
• -5–2 - T4
• -2-0 - T3
• 1-3 - T2
• 4-7 - T1
• 8-10 - T2
• 11-13 - T3
• 14-16 - T4
• 17-19 - T5
• 20-22 - T6
• 23< - T7

pfl bizygo

• 14.4> - T7
• 14.5-15 - T6
• 15.5-16 - T5
• 16.5-17 - T4
• 17.5-18 - T3
• 18.5-19 - T2
• 19.5-21 - T1
• 21.5-22 - T2
• 22.5-23 - T3
• 23.5-24 - T4
• 24.5-25 - T5
• 25.5-26 - T6
• 26.1< - T7

icd

• 0.54> - T7
• 0.55-0.6 - T6
• 0.65-0.7 - T5
• 0.75-0.8 - T4
• 0.85-0.9 - T3
• 0.95-1 - T2
• 1.05-1.1 - T1
• 1.15-1.2 - T2
• 1.25-1.3 - T4
• 1.35-1.4 - T5
• 1.45-1.5 - T6
• 1.51< - T7

ibs : icd

• 0.95> - T3
• 1.0-1.2 - T2
• 1.25-1.4 - T1
• 1.5-1.75 - T2
• 1.8< - T3

ocd

• 0.53> - T7
• 0.54-0.55 - T6
• 0.56-0.57 - T5
• 0.58-0.59 - T4
• 0.60-0.61 - T3
• 0.62-0.63 - T2
• 0.64-0.68 - T1
• 0.69-0.70 - T2
• 0.71-0.72 - T3
• 0.73-0.74 - T4
• 0.75-0.76 - T5
• 0.77-0.78 - T6
• 0.79< - T7

obs : ocd

• 1.25< - T1
• 1.15-1.20 - T2
• 1.05-1.1 - T3
• 0.95-1 - T4
• 0.85-0.9 - T5
• 0.75-0.8 - T6
• 0.74> - T7

brow tilt

• -19> - T7
• -18–15 - T6
• -14–11 - T5
• -10–7 - T4
• -6–3 - T3
• -2-1 - T2
• 2-6 - T1
• 7-10 - T2
• 11-14 - T3
• 15-18 - T4
• 19-22 - T5
• 23-26 - T6
• 27< - T7

brow set

• 89-100 - T1
• 88-84 - T2
• 83-79 - T3
• 78-74 - T4
• 73-69 - T5
• 69-65 - T6
• 64> - T1

NOSE + MOUTH

mouth-nose

• 1.27> - T7
• 1.28-1.32 - T6
• 1.33-1.37 - T5
• 1.38-1.42 - T4
• 1.43-1.48 - T3
• 1.49-1.53 - T2
• 1.54-1.62 - T1
• 1.63-1.67 - T2
• 1.68-1.72 - T3
• 1.73-1.77 - T4
• 1.78-1.82 - T5
• 1.83-1.87 - T6
• 1.88< - T7

nose : bizygo

• 3.3> - T7
• 3.35-3.4 - T6
• 3.45-3.5 - T5
• 3.55-3.6 - T4
• 3.65-3.7 - T3
• 3.75-3.8 - T2
• 3.85-4.05 - T1
• 4.1-4.15 - T2
• 4.2-4.25 - T3
• 4.3-4.35 - T4
• 4.4-4.45 - T5
• 4.5-4.55 - T6
• 4.6< - T7

upper : lower lip

• 1> - T7
• 1.05-1.1 - T6
• 1.15-1.2 - T5
• 1.25-1.3 - T4
• 1.35-1.4 - T3
• 1.45-1.5 - T2
• 1.55-1.65 - T1
• 1.7-1.75 - T2
• 1.8-1.85 - T3
• 1.9-1.95 - T4
• 2.0-2.05 - T5
• 2.1-2.15 - T6
• 2.2< - T7

mouth-bigonial

• 41< - T1
• 39-40% - T2
• 37-38% - T3
• 35-36% - T4
• 33-34% - T5
• 31-32% - T6
• 30> - T7

oral commissure assessment

• mouth lines up with iris - T1
• mouth slightly does not line up with iris - T2
• mouth noticeably does not line up with iris - T3
• mouth does not line up with iris at all - T4

mouth : lower third

• 11> - T7
• 12-14% - T6
• 15-17% - T5
• 18-20% - T4
• 21-23% - T3
• 24-26% - T2
• 27-32% - T1
• 33-35% - T2
• 36-38% - T3
• 39-41% - T4
• 42-44% - T5
• 45-47% - T6
• 48< - T7

 

[killcry]

tagging the 2025 newgen pubg squad

@Tigermoggerlol
@pajjeetslayer
@iblamexyz

 

[Deleted member 155024]

tagging the 2025 newgen pubg squad

@Tigermoggerlol
@pajjeetslayer
@iblamexyz

Ur thread died fast asf

 

[killcry]

Ur thread died fast asf

literally doesn't matter, this is here for you to read so read it or don't, it'll be here either way

 

[iblamexyz]

tagging the 2025 newgen pubg squad

@Tigermoggerlol
@pajjeetslayer
@iblamexyz

why did you leave the discord gc

 

[iblamexyz]

literally doesn't matter, this is here for you to read so read it or don't, it'll be here either way

ahh repmaxing

 

[qxdr]

Mirin effort, bookmarked this for later use

 

[iblamexyz]

Mirin effort, bookmarked this for later use

fyi me and @Tigermoggerlol and @pajjeetslayer

have spent the past 2 hrs talking with him

I haven't read his chart yet, I would take it with a grainsalt

and wouldn't trust it

 

[killcry]

I haven't read his chart yet

i wouldn't trust it

so why isn't it trustworthy if you have not read it?

 

[iblamexyz]

so why isn't it trustworthy if you have not read it?

I'll give you the benefit doubt bro and read it compare it to mine

but also it's 4am and I am hungry asf and tired

but before people become sped like you start rating faces all over the places

I would just info the users I know to take your scale with a pinch of salt

also surly since I am a new gen nobody what I think of your scale doesn't matter no?

 

[qxdr]

fyi me and @Tigermoggerlol and @pajjeetslayer

have spent the past 2 hrs talking with him

I haven't read his chart yet, I would take it with a grainsalt

and wouldn't trust it

What scale do you use? Is it that one thread you sent or a different one

 

[killcry]

I'll give you the benefit doubt bro and read it compare it to mine

but also it's 4am and I am hungry asf and tired

but before people become sped like you start rating faces all over the places

I would just info the users I know to take your scale with a pinch of salt

also surly since I am a new gen nobody what I think of your scale doesn't matter no?

what have i said/who have i rated that was wrong?

 

[iblamexyz]

What scale do you use? Is it that one thread you sent or a different one

yes the one I sent

but the one @Tigermoggerlol uses I've seen before which is good

fyi this is his own ideals mine are ofc built from org since I rate on .org

but faceiq (in my opinion) has a credible scale

so using his (which I used to use before my thread)

is good also

 

[iblamexyz]

what have i said/who have i rated that was wrong?

we agree to disagree due to us having different scales

 

[qxdr]

yes the one I sent

but the one @Tigermoggerlol uses I've seen before which is good

fyi this is his own ideals mine are ofc built from org since I rate on .org

but faceiq (in my opinion) has a credible scale

so using his (which I used to use before my thread)

is good also

forgot about faceiq def gotta look at his scale too

 

[killcry]

we agree to disagree due to us having different scales

how is my scale different from yours? what have i said that was retarded/not credible?

 

[iblamexyz]

how is my scale different from yours? what have i said that was retarded/not credible?

in terms of rating I don't think your wrong, sure I disagree that Latino is cl

just hmtn, put him next to someone like Bryce Hall, they on the same level

if he cl he would be doing better thing than having a account on this forum

anyway @pajjeetslayer looked thru ratios he said they look alr

since you made this thread can ask a few other raters see what they say

 

[killcry]

in terms of rating I don't think your wrong, sure I disagree that Latino is cl

just hmtn, put him next to someone like Bryce Hall, they on the same level

if he cl he would be doing better thing than having a account on this forum

anyway @pajjeetslayer looked thru ratios he said they look alr

since you made this thread can ask a few other raters see what they say

he mogs the fuck out of bryce hall though

 

[Deleted member 155024]

he mogs the fuck out of bryce hall though

I agree

in terms of rating I don't think your wrong, sure I disagree that Latino is cl

just hmtn, put him next to someone like Bryce Hall, they on the same level

if he cl he would be doing better thing than having a account on this forum

anyway @pajjeetslayer looked thru ratios he said they look alr

since you made this thread can ask a few other raters see what they say

he needs to add some fonts and shit and make it into a guide could get botb

 

[iblamexyz]

he mogs the fuck out of bryce hall though

here's the thing is he super ND?

why isn't he posting on tik tok

surly if that was the case tik tokcels would love him and making edits of him

surly life for him would be like one big Christmas present where he should have a high paying job and good circle of friends

JFL (I am not saying he doesn't) I am just saying a cl doesn't care about his rating he knows his irl rating

 

[iblamexyz]

I agree

he needs to add some fonts and shit and make it into a guide could get botb

possibly if other people fw his ratios I'll take it all back

 

[killcry]

here's the thing is he super ND?

why isn't he posting on tik tok

surly if that was the case tik tokcels would love him and making edits of him

surly life for him would be like one big Christmas present where he should have a high paying job and good circle of friends

JFL (I am not saying he doesn't) I am just saying a cl doesn't care about his rating he knows his irl rating

i lowk used to think like this 4 years ago and then i realized life is actually a lot more nuanced than that

 

[iblamexyz]

i lowk used to think like this 4 years ago and then i realized life is actually a lot more nuanced than that

possibly Idk his spawn point

but it's the truth

 

[killcry]

possibly Idk his spawn point

but it's the truth

if he's giga narcy and nd on here

how do you think he acts irl

 

[iblamexyz]

if he's giga narcy and nd on here

how do you think he acts irl

I have no idea

but Looks theory doesn't fail

surly he can just stausmax using sfc

and than it doesn't matter

most people don't say Clav isn't a nice guy yet he's normie mainstream now

 

[iblamexyz]

also fyi not bad chart I still think the one I use is better but not a bad chart when using harmony or rating

I do wonder what @greycel @Abdullahm06 thinks about the chart

I also send ts to @JohnBaza on dc

 

[killcry]

also fyi not bad chart I still think the one I use is better but not a bad chart when using harmony or rating

I do wonder what @greycel @Abdullahm06 thinks about the chart

I also send ts to @JohnBaza on dc

and why is it better

 

[LTNUser]

also fyi not bad chart I still think the one I use is better but not a bad chart when using harmony or rating

I do wonder what @greycel @Abdullahm06 thinks about the chart

I also send ts to @JohnBaza on dc

Tag @anthony111553 too

 

[iblamexyz]

Tag @anthony111553 too

he has me on ignore

he says I am the most annoying user on this site low key a flex since he's giga unc

I would make it my signature but the Bryce quote is better

 

[iblamexyz]

and why is it better

Spoiler: not my thread so not self promo

38 Most important facial ratios and the ideal measurements (HIGH EFFORT)

These are all the facial ratios that matter including some of the ones in the BOTB thread + the ones he didn't include. Note: This is not a guide on how to measure these ratios (You can search for that yourself since I'm too lazy) Color coding: RED- Extremely Important BLUE- Really Important...

looksmax.org

I know this clinch but the format is clean

this is too messy I can't use ts it'll give me a headace

but being genuine serious, these thread I find more mathematically correct just in essence it's more consistent

 

[iblamexyz]

Tag @anthony111553 too

what do you think though

 

[killcry]

Spoiler: not my thread so not self promo

38 Most important facial ratios and the ideal measurements (HIGH EFFORT)

These are all the facial ratios that matter including some of the ones in the BOTB thread + the ones he didn't include. Note: This is not a guide on how to measure these ratios (You can search for that yourself since I'm too lazy) Color coding: RED- Extremely Important BLUE- Really Important...

looksmax.org

I know this clinch but the format is clean

this is too messy I can't use ts it'll give me a headace

but being genuine serious, these thread I find more mathematically correct just in essence it's more consistent

umm that doesn't have tiers and only 38 ratios including the front and side profile...

 

[iblamexyz]

umm that doesn't have tiers and only 38 ratios including the front and side profile...

ofc not but it makes rating simple

instead of using tiers

 

[killcry]

ofc not but it makes rating simple

instead of using tiers

and i didnt even include the side profile in this post

i have 35 ratios alone regarding the side profile

 

[iblamexyz]

and i didnt even include the side profile in this post

i have 35 ratios alone regarding the side profile

I still think the photos tml sent in are better

that being said not a bad thread when understand harmony and attractiveness

 

[Abdullahm06]

also fyi not bad chart I still think the one I use is better but not a bad chart when using harmony or rating

I do wonder what @greycel @Abdullahm06 thinks about the chart

I also send ts to @JohnBaza on dc

this is way too autist for me

 

[iblamexyz]

this is way too autist for me

Yeah fair jfl