CCW Rotation

[ethan1211]

Has there been any proven methods for achieving ccw rotation DURING puberty?

 

[spongebob]

Bite using your front teeth

 

[soggra]

Chew on tough raw meat, this will place pressure on the anterior maxilla therefore moving it up, outwards, and forwards giving CCW rotation

Thumbpull as well and expand your skull with a reviv mouthguard

Mark as solution

 

[AVDoulie]

Has there been any proven methods for achieving ccw rotation DURING puberty?

thumbpulling, dont say its cope, the method is like pulling ur maxilla up like a helmet visor

 

[nvrhrgin]

thumbpulling, dont say its cope, the method is like pulling ur maxilla up like a helmet visor

But it’s cope, u need a constant pressure to make maxilla remodel, wasn’t it discussed years ago lol?

 

[waelwaywayola]

But it’s cope, u need a constant pressure to make maxilla remodel, wasn’t it discussed years ago lol?

If u do it for like 30minutesx3-5 times a day you will prb see improvement. Like for example hard mewing i feel that my maxillia is getting pushed just after like 30-60 minutes of constant pressure

 

[nvrhrgin]

If u do it for like 30minutesx3-5 times a day you will prb see improvement. Like for example hard mewing i feel that my maxillia is getting pushed just after like 30-60 minutes of constant pressure

Getting pushed doesn’t mean it changes something. Gravity pushes your maxilla constantly and I guarantee it would return back right after finishing thumbpulling or hard mewing in the same period of time or even faster. Also after age of 5-10 your maxilla is 85% developed and after puberty your suture is fused in most cases means it would do nothing. Btw maxilla protraction is generally done with 10 Newtons, and the tongue can exert around 5 while hard mewing

 

[waelwaywayola]

Getting pushed doesn’t mean it changes something. Gravity pushes your maxilla constantly and I guarantee it would return back right after finishing thumbpulling or hard mewing in the same period of time or even faster. Also after age of 5-10 your maxilla is 85% developed and after puberty your suture is fused in most cases means it would do nothing. Btw maxilla protraction is generally done with 10 Newtons, and the tongue can exert around 5 while hard mewing

True but since i am early in puberty and i have braces that expands my mandible. It may be i gain permanent expansion

 

[nvrhrgin]

True but since i am early in puberty and i have braces that expands my mandible. It may be i gain permanent expansion

Yeah, than it’s another case but anyway it won’t do much, don’t waste your time and get pulling mask with expander like mse as constant force gonna make much more

 

[waelwaywayola]

Yeah, than it’s another case but anyway it won’t do much, don’t waste your time and get pulling mask with expander like mse as constant force gonna make much more

Should i get a mse if i want more prominent zygos? Or is it more simpler to get zygomaticum inplants

 

[nvrhrgin]

Should i get a mse if i want more prominent zygos? Or is it more simpler to get zygomaticum inplants

You should till it’s possible, mse would set them higher and add some width due to rotation when face mask could pull them forward

 

[waelwaywayola]

You should till it’s possible, mse would set them higher and add some width due to rotation when face mask could pull them forward

So i should get smt that expands my maxillia until its possible for zygo implants

 

[nvrhrgin]

So i should get smt that expands my maxillia until its possible for zygo implants

What? Your zygos would expand relatively to maxilla in width with mse and forward with fm. Also check for fme + fma if u r based in USA, same but better probably

 

[waelwaywayola]

What? Your zygos would expand relatively to maxilla in width with mse and forward with fm. Also check for fme + fma if u r based in USA, same but better probably

Im in norway and whats a facemask?

 

[shehzadgillani]

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Chew on tough raw meat, this will place pressure on the anterior maxilla therefore moving it up, outwards, and forwards giving CCW rotation

Thumbpull as well and expand your skull with a reviv mouthguard

Mark as solution

even after pubertY?

 

[nvrhrgin]

Im in norway and whats a facemask?

I guess you aware there are ton of threads on the topic on this forum? Simply bow attached some lastics attached to mse, it can pull your face forward till you r young enough and suture is still opened (it’s your case). Also I guess you could get visa easily to travel to usa and get fme + fma, just convince your parents

 

[nvrhrgin]

Im in norway and whats a facemask?

But anyway even mse + fm are decent option at your age I guess

 

[waelwaywayola]

But anyway even mse + fm are decent option at your age I guess

So should i buy a mse with a facemask from the internett with a mold? I have seen a couple of them and im a lil bit poor so i wont be able to go to america

 

[nvrhrgin]

So should i buy a mse with a facemask from the internett with a mold? I have seen a couple of them and im a lil bit poor so i wont be able to go to america

Visit orthodontist or jaw surgeon who provides it in your region, he would order it and install, do not buy it yourself you won’t be able to install it

 

[nvrhrgin]

So should i buy a mse with a facemask from the internett with a mold? I have seen a couple of them and im a lil bit poor so i wont be able to go to america

Besides you need to visit him anyway as I’m just a dude in the internet, do not rely on my recommendations 100%

 

[nvrhrgin]

So should i buy a mse with a facemask from the internett with a mold? I have seen a couple of them and im a lil bit poor so i wont be able to go to america

Here is some additional info on topic https://looksmax.org/threads/mse-fm...ion-as-the-holy-grail-of-looksmaxxing.147580/

 

[KeepCopingLads]

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Chew on tough raw meat, this will place pressure on the anterior maxilla therefore moving it up, outwards, and forwards giving CCW rotation

Thumbpull as well and expand your skull with a reviv mouthguard

Mark as solution

I keep seeing people say to bite with the premolar or front teeth
True or cope?
Cus I like to use my canine to rip the meat then use my molars to chew

 

[waelwaywayola]

Visit orthodontist or jaw surgeon who provides it in your region, he would order it and install, do not buy it yourself you won’t be able to install it

What should i say to the orthodontist? Should i say i have sleep apnea or smt?

 

[nvrhrgin]

What should i say to the orthodontist? Should i say i have sleep apnea or smt?

You should say it him if you really have it. Also if your palate is narrow or tongue to big for it you should mention it too, if you think your maxilla is downward grown or recessed you should ask him to make ct and check so it can be treated with face mask.

 

[waelwaywayola]

You should say it him if you really have it. Also if your palate is narrow or tongue to big for it you should mention it too, if you think your maxilla is downward grown or recessed you should ask him to make ct and check so it can be treated with face mask.

Hmm i dont have any of the symptoms you mentioned. What should i say

 

[nvrhrgin]

Hmm i dont have any of the symptoms you mentioned. What should i say

What r u even doing with hardmewing or etc if you aren’t recessed or downward grown?

 

[idkmanimao]

thumbpulling, dont say its cope, the method is like pulling ur maxilla up like a helmet visor

show the results it's cope.

I keep seeing people say to bite with the premolar or front teeth
True or cope?
Cus I like to use my canine to rip the meat then use my molars to chew

it's cope tbh

even after pubertY?

fuck no

If u do it for like 30minutesx3-5 times a day you will prb see improvement. Like for example hard mewing i feel that my maxillia is getting pushed just after like 30-60 minutes of constant pressure

doesn't work.

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Chew on tough raw meat, this will place pressure on the anterior maxilla therefore moving it up, outwards, and forwards giving CCW rotation

Thumbpull as well and expand your skull with a reviv mouthguard

Mark as solution

thumbpulling? meat? no.

 

[ybuyhgui]

show the results it's cope.

it's cope tbh

fuck no

doesn't work.

thumbpulling? meat? no.

 

[waelwaywayola]

What r u even doing with hardmewing or etc if you aren’t recessed or downward grown?

I just do it for prominent zygos and CCW ROTATION. I was a little bit down grown but its getting better so i want be able to get a mse with a facemask. I would want to because then i would get forward growth

 

[waelwaywayola]

I keep seeing people say to bite with the premolar or front teeth
True or cope?
Cus I like to use my canine to rip the meat then use my molars to chew

Its true

 

[nvrhrgin]

Its true

Biting with incisors is unnatural and gonna fuck your teeth faster then you may reach any theoretical result

 

[nvrhrgin]

I just do it for prominent zygos and CCW ROTATION. I was a little bit down grown but its getting better so i want be able to get a mse with a facemask. I would want to because then i would get forward growth

Then you should told orthodontics you r downward grown and ask for ct, ask him to check if u r indeed downward grown and… I guess u got it

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Biting with incisors is unnatural and gonna fuck your teeth faster then you may reach any theoretical result

Yh, it doesn't feel right

 

[waelwaywayola]

Then you should told orthodontics you r downward grown and ask for ct, ask him to check if u r indeed downward grown and… I guess u got it

Do you guess i have a downgrown face?

 

[nvrhrgin]

Yh, it doesn't feel right

Ofc, because no one chewing with incisors including most forward grown compact faced ppl, it won’t do anything but fuck your teeth or at best u gonna get tmj before it

 

[nvrhrgin]

Do you guess i have a downgrown face?

Idk, i never saw u, that what u told before: “ I was a little bit down grown but its getting better so i want be able to get a mse with a facemask”

 

[waelwaywayola]

Idk, i never saw u, that what u told before: “ I was a little bit down grown but its getting better so i want be able to get a mse with a facemask”

Ahh i understand. Yeah next time i will ask for that. Is there anything i should say to him so theres a bigger chance that i will get a ct scan and mse?

 

[nvrhrgin]

Ahh i understand. Yeah next time i will ask for that. Is there anything i should say to him so theres a bigger chance that i will get a ct scan and mse?

Getting ct scan requires nothing but your own desire, you don’t need something special for it. Also you need nithing to ask him to chrck if u r downward grown. You may ask him to calculate your SNB, SNA, ANB

 

[waelwaywayola]

Getting ct scan requires nothing but your own desire, you don’t need something special for it. Also you need nithing to ask him to chrck if u r downward grown. You may ask him to calculate your SNB, SNA, ANB

Thank you i will ask him in 3 weeks