chads born not made?

[Phillybeard1996]

Can a normie level guy become a true chad with surgery and softmaxing? Is it true that chads were always chads?

 

[delusionalretard]

Yes, and this is known. Looks are determined in the womb when the fetus is exposed to prenatal testosterone. And if your parents have shitty genomes chances are you will also inherit all of their bad traits and any softmaxx you do will not make up for your genetic potential.

This is btw why people mention ''good base to looksmaxx,'' these are rare cases in which said person is held back by changeable things: acne, fat, lack of muscle etc.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Yes, and this is known. Looks are determined in the womb when the fetus is exposed to prenatal testosterone. And if your parents have shitty genomes chances are you will also inherit all of their bad traits and any softmaxx you do will not make up for your genetic potential.

Yea people saying chads were always chads is stupid. I've seen people get surgery and makes huge changes. Many chads I seen when I see their younger self they weren't even close to chad. But if you are truley deformed that's when u can't become a chad.

 

[Deleted member 14203]

Can a normie level guy become a true chad with surgery and softmaxing? Is it true that chads were always chads?

I think most normies can get at least to chadlite on the Aspie looks scale which can slay irl. Chad depending on height/bone structure/frame/how much surgery you are willing to get. I'm personally just shooting for HTN, and even some subhumans can probably reach that level. HTN you can get into relationships based on actuall physical attraction,

 

[delusionalretard]

Yea people saying chads were always chads is stupid. I've seen people get surgery and makes huge changes. Many chads I seen when I see their younger self they weren't even close to chad. But if you are truley deformed that's when u can't become a chad.

Surgery can in rare cases ascend some people, but in order for that to happen you need a solid base to begin with. Some people become Chad through puberty, but that is because of their genetic potential being reached.

 

[Lawton88]

A few can but not many. Surgery takes a lot of subhumans to a 5/10 however and some Normie's to high tier Normie's.

 

[Gaia262]

Can a normie level guy become a true chad with surgery and softmaxing? Is it true that chads were always chads?

Realistically You can go one step up the hierachy maxxing out soft/hard maxxing.

Sometimes two steps if everything goes well.


Subhuman

Normie

Chadelite

Chad

 

[Phillybeard1996]

A few can but not many. Surgery takes a lot of subhumans to a 5/10 however and some Normie's to high tier Normie's.

Surgery makes more differences in subhuman imo but yea they will be around normie level usally after that maybe even still slightly below

 

[Deleted member 13076]

No, surgery is good enough to ascend you to a high tier normie possible chadlite if you only lack one good feature, but nothing can replicate true real bones.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Realistically You can go one step up the hierachy maxxing out soft/hard maxxing.

Sometimes two steps if everything goes well.


Subhuman

Normie

Chadelite

Chad

yea usually one step up sometimes 2 but a subhuman mostly likley will never be even a high tier normie

 

[Phillybeard1996]

No, surgery is good enough to ascend you to a high tier normie possible chadlite if you only lack one good feature, but nothing can replicate true real bones.

What if you have good bones but bad lips and nose?

 

[Deleted member 4430]

because chad does not consist only of some features, but mainly ratios, which is practically unchangeable. most things in bone growth in orbitals are also unchangeable, the length of the midface is also unchangeable.

Otherwise it works logically, the more flaws you have that can be fixed, the more the change will be more visible.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

because chad does not consist only of some features, but mainly ratios, which is practically unchangeable. most things in bone growth in orbitals are also unchangeable, the length of the midface is also unchangeable.

Otherwise it works logically, the more flaws you have that can be fixed, the more the change will be more visible.

You can change the chin to philtrum ratio or mouth to nose

 

[Deleted member 4430]

You can change the chin to philtrum ratio or mouth to nose

yeah, but the first one doesnt matter much and the second one changes with surgery, which isnt very good.


literally the most important ones like midface length, face width, IPD and PFL you cant change

 

[Phillybeard1996]

yeah, but the first one doesnt matter much and the second one changes with surgery, which isnt very good.


literally the most important ones like midface length, face width, IPD and PFL you cant change

You mean by changing mouth to nose ratio the results usually don't end up good?

 

[Deleted member 13409]

You can always get to above average looking if you start off non deformed. To get to very attractive levels though you do indeed need a “good base”. You can be ugly with a good base, but it means amazing ratios and some big but fixable flaws. A guy with amazing eyes and midface but a highly recessed chin “has a good base”. After jaw surgery or genioplasty, followed by implants a year later, they can go from incel to normie to chad.

the average person though can only go from slightly below average to above average. This is still worth doing and you don’t have to be a male model to live an amazing life. You can go from a bad life to a good one without becoming a knockout.