Challenge to blackpill non-believers, please prove me wrong.

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

I've seen way too many online influencers completely not get the point of the blackpill. It absolutely infurirates me, because it makes us seem like lazy people who are looking for excuses to not try. What part of the argument implies that we haven't tried? Maybe we tried and realized everything in our control doesn't actually bring about the outcome we wanted? But that's not the point.

The looks hierarchy can be represented by a totem pole (the scientific blackpill among other scientific literature has proven this, I implore you to disprove me otherwise, but not with personal anecdotes) The higher you are on that totem pole, the more attractive you are (again, attraction may not be exactly objective, but there is a very strong general trend when it comes to what is deemed attractive and what is not, there has been zero science to prove otherwise, but please, prove me wrong)

The bluepill argues that this totem pole does not exist. The redpill argues that this totem pole exists and can be climbed. The blackpill argues that this totem pole exists and cannot be climbed. With the blackpill, it's not only that looks matter, it's that there is nothing that can be done to significantly improve your looks (on the basis that attraction is based mostly on entirely uncontrollable factors, to include facial structure, height, and race; once again this is proven by science, but please, prove me wrong and provide me the link)

Almost every ascension can be explained by the fact that these people have been looksminning their whole lives and were actually hiding a mogger facial structure to begin with (such as high bf%) from what I have seen. Once again, I have not seen verifiable evidence that this totem pole can be legitimately climbed.

Please, prove me wrong, the blackpill has caused me so much stress, but every time someone denies it it's through their personal anecdotes that can't even be verified. Not a single blackpill denier that I've read/watched have referred to science, they've only peddled their over optimistic truisms.

 

[twojei]

Bump

 

[Deleted member 54067]

muh science

 

[micropenis29]

this is good, accurate summary

people will believe whatever feels true to them

bluepillers like the fantasy of defying the odds

redpillers enjoy the struggle and eventual payoff of various self-improvement techniques

blackpillers enjoy rotting and making fun of the blue and redpillers

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

muh science

I've learned to trust it more than the bluepilled LARPers

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

this is good, accurate summary

people will believe whatever feels true to them

bluepillers like the fantasy of defying the odds

redpillers enjoy the struggle and eventual payoff of various self-improvement techniques

blackpillers enjoy rotting and making fun of the blue and redpillers

But only one of the pills, at least from when I've done the researching, has the evidence to back it up. Trust me, I've looked for the bluepill studies, but even they seem to make blackpill conclusions (for example, they determine that personality assessments matter when evaluating mate quality, but they conclude in the same study that these personality assessments were strongly correlated with physical attractiveness ratings)

 

[micropenis29]

But only one of the pills, at least from when I've done the researching, has the evidence to back it up. Trust me, I've looked for the bluepill studies, but even they seem to make blackpill conclusions (for example, they determine that personality assessments matter when evaluating mate quality, but they conclude in the same study that these personality assessments were strongly correlated with physical attractiveness ratings)

the blackpill is the most scientifically accurate

but in terms of convincing blue and redpillers, that doesn't carry any weight (they aren't persuaded by science)

 

[mog_or_be_mogged]

the real blackpill is this fat white dick in ur mouth faggot kys also bumperoni!

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

the blackpill is the most scientifically accurate

but in terms of convincing blue and redpillers, that doesn't carry any weight (they aren't persuaded by science)

Facts, instead they'd rather listen to the virtue signaling everyone peddles around, while not understanding the first thing about the spotlight effect.

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

Bump. Looks like there was no proof after all.

Not one study has shown that controllable factors weigh more heavily in attraction than non-controllable factors.

 

[Luffymaxxing]

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

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About to be my life. Seriously depressing.

 

[New Poster]

The real blackpill is that if you care one iota what some "influencer" thinks, it's beyond over. You're literally the bottom tier of society if you're a social media consumer. Only jb opinions matter.

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

The real blackpill is that if you care one iota what some "influencer" thinks, it's beyond over. You're literally the bottom tier of society if you're a social media consumer. Only jb opinions matter.

Jbs spout the same bluepill shit too. But judging from their behavior, that is not the case. Can't help but notice you are not actually replying to the thread.

 

[wollet2]

its over

 

[6PSLcel]

this is good, accurate summary

people will believe whatever feels true to them

bluepillers like the fantasy of defying the odds

redpillers enjoy the struggle and eventual payoff of various self-improvement techniques

blackpillers enjoy rotting and making fun of the blue and redpillers

yeah cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias

 

[New Poster]

Can't help but notice you are not actually replying to the thread.

The premise of your thread is based on what influencers say. Jfl at outing yourself as some loser who pays attention to that shit. Just approach and try to escalate on hot girls. That's all you should base your opinions on.

 

[mrdouchebag]

50+ year old multibillionaire CEO or megamillionaire celebrity can simply buy young hot models to fuck and impregnate. Yeah they might not be carnally attracted to him and they might cheat on him and/or leave him. But he can just keep recycling them till he is dead. The real question here is: how much does genuine desire matter for a man who can get exactly what he wants, and even if he loses it, he can replace it in mere moments with something of equal or higher value, so it's like he never lost it to begin with? In my opinion, genuine desire is pretty worthless in this case. He might rank at the bottom of the totem pole looks wise, but does he really if he has porked 200 models and impregnated 5 of them?

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

50+ year old multibillionaire CEO or megamillionaire celebrity can simply buy young hot models to fuck and impregnate. Yeah they might not be carnally attracted to him and they might cheat on him and/or leave him. But he can just keep recycling them till he is dead. The real question here is: how much does genuine desire matter for a man who can get exactly what he wants, and even if he loses it, he can replace it in mere moments with something of equal or higher value, so it's like he never lost it to begin with? In my opinion, genuine desire is pretty worthless in this case. He might rank at the bottom of the totem pole looks wise, but does he really if he has porked 200 models and impregnated 5 of them?

If it's just about having sex, I can buy escorts too. No need to become a multitrillionaire.

Going your whole life without mutual attraction is loser status (she settled for you or you settled for her) That is what I seek to ascend from, but so far the data does not point towards the right direction.

 

[KLEORB]

good summary. bluepill niggas just wont accept that no matter how hard u try as a fat bald and no motionless creature you can't get ahead.
Its the deep truth.
#stayblackpilled

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

good summary. bluepill niggas just wont accept that no matter how hard u try as a fat bald and no motionless creature you can't get ahead.
Its the deep truth.
#stayblackpilled

I don't want to stay blackpilled. But every time I try to dig myself out of this hole I get sucked back in by the sheer logic of it all. Maybe there is an optimistic blackpill, that shows that there are ways out, even if life is determined solely by looks.

But there isn't so far. Even plastic surgery has shown that it can only make you look younger, in terms of attractiveness it does almost nothing for you.

 

[KLEORB]

I don't want to stay blackpilled. But every time I try to dig myself out of this hole I get sucked back in by the sheer logic of it all. Maybe there is an optimistic blackpill, that shows that there are ways out, even if life is determined solely by looks.

But there isn't so far. Even plastic surgery has shown that it can only make you look younger, in terms of attractiveness it does almost nothing for you.

its the just life and people man. trust me i want to be out of blackpill too. people itend to be more harsh when ur just simply ugly. i was bloated and had long hair which was a sub- last year. and got called Fucking dahmer for it. LOL, yeah but now that ive lost weight working out and look better people have been treating me alot more better. its just the life of nature ig.

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

What makes you think you’re finding someone who doesn’t believe in blackpill on looksmax.org? Go onto reddit or something

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

What makes you think you’re finding someone who doesn’t believe in blackpill on looksmax.org? Go onto reddit or something

This website is called looksmax.org. Just looking for hope honestly, that looksmaxxing will get me to where I want to be. Maybe a lighter shade of the blackpill.

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

This website is called looksmax.org. Just looking for hope honestly, that looksmaxxing will get me to where I want to be. Maybe a lighter shade of the blackpill.

Just get onto reddit bro they’ll fill your head with cope

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

Just get onto reddit bro they’ll fill your head with cope

I'm here because Reddit didn't work. In fact, listening to Reddit got me nowhere, that's why I'm here.

 

[Sasuke177]

I've seen way too many online influencers completely not get the point of the blackpill. It absolutely infurirates me, because it makes us seem like lazy people who are looking for excuses to not try. What part of the argument implies that we haven't tried? Maybe we tried and realized everything in our control doesn't actually bring about the outcome we wanted? But that's not the point.

The looks hierarchy can be represented by a totem pole (the scientific blackpill among other scientific literature has proven this, I implore you to disprove me otherwise, but not with personal anecdotes) The higher you are on that totem pole, the more attractive you are (again, attraction may not be exactly objective, but there is a very strong general trend when it comes to what is deemed attractive and what is not, there has been zero science to prove otherwise, but please, prove me wrong)

The bluepill argues that this totem pole does not exist. The redpill argues that this totem pole exists and can be climbed. The blackpill argues that this totem pole exists and cannot be climbed. With the blackpill, it's not only that looks matter, it's that there is nothing that can be done to significantly improve your looks (on the basis that attraction is based mostly on entirely uncontrollable factors, to include facial structure, height, and race; once again this is proven by science, but please, prove me wrong and provide me the link)

Almost every ascension can be explained by the fact that these people have been looksminning their whole lives and were actually hiding a mogger facial structure to begin with (such as high bf%) from what I have seen. Once again, I have not seen verifiable evidence that this totem pole can be legitimately climbed.

Please, prove me wrong, the blackpill has caused me so much stress, but every time someone denies it it's through their personal anecdotes that can't even be verified. Not a single blackpill denier that I've read/watched have referred to science, they've only peddled their over optimistic truisms.

"The bluepill argues that this totem pole does not exist" no? Everyone knows more attrative = better, the difference is that the blackpill massively overestimates how much it matters

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

"The bluepill argues that this totem pole does not exist" no? Everyone knows more attrative = better, the difference is that the blackpill massively overestimates how much it matters

You clearly haven't been on Reddit. It's all about personality over there. So much so that your balding Indian janitor is on the same level as chad if only he was more confident in himself and was more friendly.

 

[Sasuke177]

"I've seen way too many online influencers completely not get the point of the blackpill. It absolutely infurirates me, because it makes us seem like lazy people who are looking for excuses to not try."

"You clearly haven't been on Reddit. It's all about personality over there. So much so that your balding Indian janitor is on the same level as chad if only he was more confident in himself and was more friendly."

a little ironic?

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

"I've seen way too many online influencers completely not get the point of the blackpill. It absolutely infurirates me, because it makes us seem like lazy people who are looking for excuses to not try."

"You clearly haven't been on Reddit. It's all about personality over there. So much so that your balding Indian janitor is on the same level as chad if only he was more confident in himself and was more friendly."

a little ironic?

I don't understand the contradiction. Reddit is a forum, by no means are they influencers. Furthermore, they are both arguing the same thing. That no one is truly ugly, it's just that people don't put effort into their appearance.

 

[Sasuke177]

I don't understand the contradiction. Reddit is a forum, by no means are they influencers. Furthermore, they are both arguing the same thing. That no one is truly ugly, it's just that people don't put effort into their appearance.

Misrepresenting the blue pill like that is makes it seem like you're just looking for excuses. Noone thinks the 5'2 indian janitor can pull as hard as chad if he had a little more confident. They're moreso just saying that most men are mtn very rarely is there a true trucel dude, and that confidence/personality is the most important factor in getting into and maintain a relationship.

 

[ocy.qd]

The blackpill argues that this totem pole exists and cannot be climbed.

Sure, not everyone is hiding a 9/10 PSL God facial structure underneath, but how will you know if you haven't tried yet? Literally at worse, softmaxxing (getting lean, doing your skincare, hairmaxxing, fashionmaxxing, etc) gets you an extra 1 or 2 points (out of 10), if not more. I have yet to see a case where that's not true. I refuse to believe that every single person here is a subhuman that can't be even normie tier with softmaxxing.
That's not even to mention hardmaxxing. Did you know that anywhere from 1/5 to 1/3 of South Korean women get plastic surgery? To me, that’s the blackpill, at its purest. The cold, hard understanding that looks matter a lot, AND the subsequent action that follows to improve on your own personal situation.
The reason I’m even here is because I hate bluepillers and the lies they spread about looks not mattering or whatever. But for once I agree with them. Most people here really do use the blackpill as an excuse. Unless you’re literally a 3 or below, LDAR is the most pathetic thing I’ve ever heard.

 

[ocy.qd]

Misrepresenting the blue pill like that is makes it seem like you're just looking for excuses. Noone thinks the 5'2 indian janitor can pull as hard as chad if he had a little more confident. They're moreso just saying that most men are mtn very rarely is there a true trucel dude, and that confidence/personality is the most important factor in getting into and maintain a relationship.

Damn I also hate the redpill, literally just a more delusional version of blackpill. I still think looks are king. The issue most people here have is acting on that knowledge and giving it all into improving their looks. Softmaxxing (JFL if you think most people in this forum even wash their face every day) and hardmaxxing. No, they'd much rather cry into an internet forum for hours every day while what little potential they might have ebbs away bit by bit as they age.

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

Sure, not everyone is hiding a 9/10 PSL God facial structure underneath, but how will you know if you haven't tried yet? Literally at worse, softmaxxing (getting lean, doing your skincare, hairmaxxing, fashionmaxxing, etc) gets you an extra 1 or 2 points (out of 10), if not more. I have yet to see a case where that's not true. I refuse to believe that every single person here is a subhuman that can't be even normie tier with softmaxxing.
That's not even to mention hardmaxxing. Did you know that anywhere from 1/5 to 1/3 of South Korean women get plastic surgery? To me, that’s the blackpill, at its purest. The cold, hard understanding that looks matter a lot, AND the subsequent action that follows to improve on your own personal situation.
The reason I’m even here is because I hate bluepillers and the lies they spread about looks not mattering or whatever. But for once I agree with them. Most people here really do use the blackpill as an excuse. Unless you’re literally a 3 or below, LDAR is the most pathetic thing I’ve ever heard.

I guess I take issue with the fact that I have to get absolutely ripped to be considered normie tier. That's not to say I'm not going to the gym, I'm pretty muscular but just not completely jacked. To put so much effort and still get mogged by some skinny twink is a nightmare scenario for me (and will very likely happen) I've been lean my whole life and I got my skin mostly taken care of six months ago, but I've seen no noticeable impact on how I look. Still getting mogged in photos, still looking horrendous compared to everyone else.

The assumption that people haven't tried I think is not completely correct. I ended up here partly because my attempts at looksmaxxing did not pan out. The only things I have to look forward to is taking off my braces and getting that jaw surgery. Besides that, I'll be back to square one.

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

Sure, not everyone is hiding a 9/10 PSL God facial structure underneath, but how will you know if you haven't tried yet? Literally at worse, softmaxxing (getting lean, doing your skincare, hairmaxxing, fashionmaxxing, etc) gets you an extra 1 or 2 points (out of 10), if not more. I have yet to see a case where that's not true. I refuse to believe that every single person here is a subhuman that can't be even normie tier with softmaxxing.
That's not even to mention hardmaxxing. Did you know that anywhere from 1/5 to 1/3 of South Korean women get plastic surgery? To me, that’s the blackpill, at its purest. The cold, hard understanding that looks matter a lot, AND the subsequent action that follows to improve on your own personal situation.
The reason I’m even here is because I hate bluepillers and the lies they spread about looks not mattering or whatever. But for once I agree with them. Most people here really do use the blackpill as an excuse. Unless you’re literally a 3 or below, LDAR is the most pathetic thing I’ve ever heard.

Another issue I take with everything is the assumption that blackpillers haven't given their all. Everyone in this forum MUST not have taken a shower for 10 years, right? What if we are just normal people who see the world for what it is? Why is it so hard for that idea to get through people's thick skulls?

 

[ocy.qd]

Another issue I take with everything is the assumption that blackpillers haven't given their all. Everyone in this forum MUST not have taken a shower for 10 years, right? What if we are just normal people who see the world for what it is? Why is it so hard for that idea to get through people's thick skulls?

"Gym is cope bro, Chad can be skinny"
"Softmaxxes are cope"
"Makeup is gay"

Actually, maybe I do take back what I said about "most" people in here only being able to rot. I've seen there are a sizeable portion of people in here that have actually swallowed the blackpill and didn't immediately resort to laying in bed, depressed and miserable. I have nothing but respect for blackpillers who have given their all and will continue to give their all towards improving.
That being said, there is a very vocal minority of blackpillers that only rot. Spend all their time shit-talking in this forum and wasting their life (and their looks potential) away.
You're right though, I shouldn't have made an assumption about you from the get-go. That's the curse of every viewpoint I feel - the tendency to make oversimplifications about anyone opposing their stance.