Cheap Le Fort Osteotomies (From 1K)

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It might be even cheaper in Pakistan. Surgeries there are made for incredibly low price. You can get a LL for 6k dollars in a respected surgeon, for example.
 
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I’ll probably end up paying 15k for surgery in Rio de Janeiro
 
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@weebcel funny how?
 
bimax $15k?
Surgery costs in Rio de Janeiro are roughly 60% cheaper than in the US

15k would likely cover everything (not including travel expenses)

probably need around 20k total to have a comfortable trip
 
Surgery costs in Rio de Janeiro are roughly 60% cheaper than in the US

15k would likely cover everything (not including travel expenses)

probably need around 20k total to have a comfortable trip

BiMax seems expensive in US then

I pay $30k in europe for mine
 
Imagine paying 15K for surgery in Brazil :feelskek:
I have no idea if it’s going to be 15k that’s just my estimate

could be less, idk
 
I prepared some search queries to make it easier to find maxillofacial doctors:

Turkey

Bulgaria

Egypt (very cheap)

Serbia

Ukraine

Romania


you may also try search queries with "maxillary lefort osteotomy" instead of "orthognatic surgery" like this

just fucking lol at rich cels paying 100k for a Bimax by Sailer. Orthognatic surgery should be considered a procedure that aims to fix maxillary deficiency and malocclusion, not somewhat to turn someone into a male model
 
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It might be even cheaper in Pakistan. Surgeries there are made for incredibly low price. You can get a LL for 6k dollars in a respected surgeon, for example.

1300 euros for bimax, damn.
I could book a bimaxillary surgery for next month
We either ascend or die trying
 
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yeah but how bad are the results :owo: no ccw chimpmax at best I assume? and most likely cucked movement. and they won't put my mse in :ogre:
 
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yeah but how bad are the results :owo: no ccw chimpmax at best I assume? and most likely cucked movement. and they won't put my mse in :ogre:
Cope, sometimes cheap surgeons are good. You are simply overpaying in the Jewnited States.
 
I am getting lefort 3 for $4k from giant.
 
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Cope, sometimes cheap surgeons are good. You are simply overpaying in the Jewnited States.
idk man have you seen any titjobs? as a lifetime coomer I can tell you that 99% are absolute dogshit (though they have been getting slightly better in recent years for USA whores). most surgeons are incompetent as fuck (most people doing anything are incompetent as fuck). I live in Europe so don't have to cope but most of these fuckers don't even upload any pics anywhere. they might have one or two acceptable results (usually on patients with minimal problems) and if you ask they can show that to you. also they are painfully unaware of a lot of things. what percentage of maxillofacial surgeons have heard of Mew you reckon? I'd guess less than 5%
 
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One polish fellow told bimax is max 8-10k USD there but they don't really do remote consultations
 
One polish fellow told bimax is max 8-10k USD there but they don't really do remote consultations
I hope that some jew surgeon in third world starts working better for international patients. (online consultations, advertising their work on social media like Richardson face clinic did)

As regards cheap maxillofacial surgeons who offer online consultation, Andreishev in Sanktpeterburg is the best known
 
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yeah but how bad are the results :owo: no ccw chimpmax at best I assume? and most likely cucked movement. and they won't put my mse in :ogre:

.org users believe the bias that surgeons posting their results on instragram are "blackpilled" and are more likely to prescribe CCW rotation, palate expansion or surgery first procedure.

The truth is maxillofacial medicine is learnt in medical schools, not in online forum, therefore maxfac doctors perfectly know when you need CCW rotation, dpending on your plane of occlusion. They perfectly know if you need rapid palate expansion, and if you can combine it with bimax on one procedure. finally they perfectly know if surgery first can be applied to your case.
You don't need a surgeon famous on PSL forum to improve your occlusion and side profile.

Don't do like Y2J97, who was disappointed by Ramieri's surgery plan, so he went to Pagnoni, who was willing to adapt the surgical plan to autistic PSL theories. (Y2J97 wanted zero degree maxillary rotation to compensate a short face, massive downward chin rotation and massive bimaxillary advancement)

In conclusion Y2J97 ended up unsatisfied by the outcome of is bimax, and crawled back to Ramieri, who asked 15k for a revision bimax
 
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.org users believe the bias that surgeons posting their results on instragram are "blackpilled" and are more likely to prescribe CCW rotation, palate expansion or surgery first procedure.

The truth is maxillofacial medicine is learnt in medical schools, not in online forum, therefore maxfac doctors perfectly know when you need CCW rotation, dpending on your plane of occlusion. They perfectly know if you need rapid palate expansion, and if you can combine it with bimax on one procedure. finally they perfectly know if surgery first can be applied to your case.
You don't need a surgeon famous on PSL forum to improve your occlusion and side profile.

Don't do like Y2J97, who was disappointed by Ramieri's surgery plan, so he went to Pagnoni, who was willing to adapt the surgical plan to autistic PSL theories. (Y2J97 wanted zero degree maxillary rotation to compensate a short face, massive CCW chin rotation and massive bimaxillary advancement)

In conclusion Y2J97 ended up unsatisfied by the outcome of is bimax, and crawled back to Ramieri, who asked 15k for a revision bimax
yeah medical schools, just like orthodontics right? :ogre: just pull 8 teeth, recess the maxilla and apneamax subhumanmax your patient :ogre: I am sorry if my belief in traditional 'medicine' is slightly shaken. it's not like every bimax result is chad transformation so we have ample room to doubt and want many before afters. case in point: I have had tongue tie release when I was ~7 and they cut 2mm.
 
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.org users believe the bias that surgeons posting their results on instragram are "blackpilled" and are more likely to prescribe CCW rotation, palate expansion or surgery first procedure.

The truth is maxillofacial medicine is learnt in medical schools, not in online forum, therefore maxfac doctors perfectly know when you need CCW rotation, dpending on your plane of occlusion. They perfectly know if you need rapid palate expansion, and if you can combine it with bimax on one procedure. finally they perfectly know if surgery first can be applied to your case.
You don't need a surgeon famous on PSL forum to improve your occlusion and side profile.

Don't do like Y2J97, who was disappointed by Ramieri's surgery plan, so he went to Pagnoni, who was willing to adapt the surgical plan to autistic PSL theories. (Y2J97 wanted zero degree maxillary rotation to compensate a short face, massive CCW chin rotation and massive bimaxillary advancement)

In conclusion Y2J97 ended up unsatisfied by the outcome of is bimax, and crawled back to Ramieri, who asked 15k for a revision bimax
1641693950018

Average looksmax users side profile post bimax.

"Muh low set eyebrows"
"Muh forward Growth"
 
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yeah medical schools, just like orthodontics right? :ogre: just pull 8 teeth, recess the maxilla and apneamax subhumanmax your patient :ogre:

the odontologists who mount preparative braces for bimax surgery are the same odontologists who perform looksmin braces on young chidren. Theese dentists perfectly know that orthognatic surgery is preferable when an orthodontic treatment leads to an unpleasing facial change.

Obviously dentists have a conflict of interest and prefer that you give them 10k for a long orthodontic treatment, instead of giving those 10k to the maxillofacial doctor. Furthermore dentists assume everyone is bluepilled and would never undergo a double maxillary osteotomy, if they have an alternative.

but all dentists know the cosmetic benefits of orthognatic surgery since they are trained since med school to co operate with maxfac doctors, dentists are just greedy for money of young kids, not ignorant about maxillary aesthetics
 
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the odontologists who mount preparative braces for bimax surgery are the same odontologists who perform looksmin braces on young chidren. Theese dentists perfectly know that orthognatic surgery is preferable when an orthodontic treatment leads to an unpleasing facial change.

Obviously dentists have a conflict of interest and prefer that you give them 10k for a long orthodontic treatment, instead of giving those 10k to the maxillofacial doctor. Furthermore dentists assume everyone is bluepilled and would never undergo a double maxillary osteotomy, if they have an alternative.

but all dentists know the cosmetic benefits of orthognatic surgery since they are trained since med school to co operate with maxfac doctors, dentists are just greedy for money of young kids, not ignorant about maxillary aesthetics
Its terrible tbh. I assume they do it because its probably impractical to send all these patients to maxfac surgeons. Considering the option is much more expensive and "more daunting" (personally I would get my jaw sawn in half today if I could afford it. I have no inhibition for bimax anymore) then just getting braces I can understand why they only offer bimax for uber recessed dogs. The patient would probably go to the next ortho who would tell them they could fix their face with braces so they can get their money.

There is also the issue of there being so few maxfac surgeons. Just go to university for 12 years theory JFL. The entry requirements to become a maxfac surgeon is insanity. 2 degrees in both dentistry and medicine before you can start another 4-6 years training to be a OMFS. I am sure there are alot more people with braces in comparison to available surgeons each year.

Just give your boy a hack saw, vokda, torch, metal plates, drill, screw driver, ruler, screws, stitches and some metal plates and I will asend you for free.

Ideally dentists would just tell you about proper tongue posture and chewing hard food during each checkup so you don't end up with a 160 degree gonial angle after puberty. The fact that I didn't learn about mewing until I was over 18 is mind boggling.
 
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Where can i get bimax + rhino for 20k or less , alfaro wants 35k
 
Where can i get bimax + rhino for 20k or less , alfaro wants 35k
Did you Alfaro tell you how much bimax alone would be?
 
Its terrible tbh. I assume they do it because its probably impractical to send all these patients to maxfac surgeons. Considering the option is much more expensive and "more daunting" (personally I would get my jaw sawn in half today if I could afford it. I have no inhibition for bimax anymore) then just getting braces I can understand why they only offer bimax for uber recessed dogs. The patient would probably go to the next ortho who would tell them they could fix their face with braces so they can get their money.

There is also the issue of there being so few maxfac surgeons. Just go to university for 12 years theory JFL. The entry requirements to become a maxfac surgeon is insanity. 2 degrees in both dentistry and medicine before you can start another 4-6 years training to be a OMFS. I am sure there are alot more people with braces in comparison to available surgeons each year.

Just give your boy a hack saw, vokda, torch, metal plates, drill, screw driver, ruler, screws, stitches and some metal plates and I will asend you for free.

Ideally dentists would just tell you about proper tongue posture and chewing hard food during each checkup so you don't end up with a 160 degree gonial angle after puberty. The fact that I didn't learn about mewing until I was over 18 is mind boggling.
it's not worth telling patients :ogre: in fact I reckon it's not worth giving palate expanders that work for children. I was given a dogshit expander that fell out every night and couldn't sleep. bitch was like oh ok it's whatever then. after I come back at 12 they're like it's over we have to extract :lul: these vermin deserve to be ERd :ogre:
 
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Where can i get bimax + rhino for 20k or less , alfaro wants 35k
35k us dollars in brazil corresponds to an american doctor charging 100k
 
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