Chewing and ccw rotation

[Deleted member 21796]

So is there any evidence at all that chewing with incisors causes ccw rotation of the maxilia or is it cope

 

[Graham]

No idea. I've come across threads with no evidence, citing the same autistic looksmax users, and their same paint.net diagrams.

I would also like to know, but considering how long this question has been kicking around, I doubt anyone has secret studies that they haven't shown before.

 

[Xangsane]

I misread it as "chewing cow rotation"

 

[Deleted member 24444]

You need to eat dirt and clench @Dr. Bruh

 

[Deleted member 21796]

@FrenchChad

 

[Deleted member 21796]

I need to fucking fix my upper maxilia recession ffs

 

[St.TikTokcel]

So is there any evidence at all that chewing with incisors causes ccw rotation of the maxilia or is it cope

Yeah chewing and mewing works.

 

[Deleted member 21796]

Yeah chewing and mewing works.

nah fr stop playing with me. I need serious answers

 

[Deleted member 24444]

nah fr stop playing with me. I need serious answers

It won’t bro

 

[Deleted member 21044]

You need to clench also consider eating dirt.

 

[Deleted member 26859]

also always wondered the same thing. someone take lead and do a scentific study using members here

 

[Deleted member 21796]

You need to clench also consider eating dirt.

just fuck up your teeths theory . also how is the thumbpulling going?

 

[Deleted member 21044]

just fuck up your teeths theory . also how is the thumbpulling going?

Yea thumbpulling seems to work but slow. I keep the sutures split. Clenching is about 50 times more effective.

 

[Deleted member 21796]

Yea thumbpulling seems to work but slow. I keep the sutures split. Clenching is about 50 times more effective.

did you manage to move your maxilia up/forward with it?

 

[Deleted member 21044]

did you manage to move your maxilia up/forward with it?

Only lower unfortunately. But yea, it's great for reducing naso folds.

 

[FrenchChad]

In theory yes

Many people chew on one side because of tooth problem and they often end up with assymetry, sometimes very serious one such as one eye lower than the other and palate imbalance
Why ? Because basically more force is transmitted on only one side of your palate (and by extension your maxilla) leading to an imbalance and the maxilla end up remodeling and giving you assymetries since the palate will be tilted), not even mentioning here the masseter assymetry that come from that practice.

Now for the evidences see the maxilla as a flat plane with a back part and a front part

Relationship between masseter muscle size and maxillary morphology

Abstract. The aim of this study was to investigate the relationship between masseter muscle size and craniofacial morphology, focusing on the maxilla. Twenty-fo

academic.oup.com

As the masseter became larger, the anterior maxillary region tended to shift downwards relative to the cranial base, whereas the posterior region tended to shift upwards. The decrease in LAFH/TAFH and increase in LPFH/TPFH as the size of the masseter muscle increases may be influenced not only by the inclination of the mandibular plane but also by the clockwise rotation of the maxilla.

Basically this is the proof of whhy it would work, here this study shows that bigger masseter may lead to a clockwise rotation of the masseter, this is not what we want but the principle stay the same : because the masseters are linked to the posterior part of the maxilla (the zygomatico-maxillary complex) and because when chewing in a "regular way" you are using mostly your back teeth you are transmitting more force to the back part of the maxilla than to the front part which will lead to a rotation.

Now reverse the idea : If you incisor chew firstly you won't activate by much your masseters (mostly your temporalis) and you will transmit more force to the front part of the maxilla than to the back part leading once again to a rotation over time.

So in theory it should work, the main limiting factor is age since the older you are the less malleable your bones are, and the slower bone remodeling takes, but overrall using a mouthguard to induce a ccw rotation without damaging your teeth could over months/years give you good results, especially considering the amount of force that chewing can produce (astronomically higher than the amount of force your tongue can produce).

 

[Deleted member 21796]

Only lower unfortunately. But yea, it's great for reducing naso folds.

so better undereye support?

 

[Deleted member 21044]

so better undereye support?

No.

 

[FrenchChad]

so better undereye support?

Lower maxilla doesn't impact undereye support (otherwise bimax would help with that issue)

Also why aren't you using volufiline ? It might save your life since you don't want to perform surgeries

 

[andy9432]

Mouthguard clenching is legit.

 

[letsdoit]

Look up Luca Marchesi before / after

 

[Deleted member 24427]

I misread it as "chewing cow rotation"

ALS symptoms, not kidding btw

 

[Deleted member 21796]

Mouthguard clenching is legit.

for ccw rotation?

 

[letsdoit]

It works but there is a specific way to do it and not damage tmj as well

 

[andy9432]

for ccw rotation?

Only for the lower maxilla. I alternate between biting for jaw gains and lower maxilla gains.

 

[Deleted member 21796]

It works but there is a specific way to do it and not damage tmj as well

elaborate pls

 

[Deleted member 21796]

Only for the lower maxilla. I alternate between biting for jaw gains and lower maxilla gains.

i need upper man... fuck

 

[andy9432]

i need upper man... fuck

same. i will get fat grafts injected in undereye for dark circles.

 

[Deleted member 21796]

same. i will get fat grafts injected in undereye for dark circles.

I cope with facepulling rn but yeah bimax is last resort

 

[Xangsane]

ALS symptoms, not kidding btw

Stop it.

 

[Deleted member 15539]

It's cope

 

[DR. NICKGA]

i gonna try it, i hope it fixes me hooked nose

 

[Allornothing]

Once your maxilla has started growing downwards it's pretty much game, set, match. Mewing and chewing just prevents this as your bones grow.

 

[CalulArgintiu59]

Idk man, but chewing with molars seems more natural, ancestors chewed with molars.But the thing is I have one masseter bigger, it is not assymetrical jaw, it's masseter because when I clench I feel one side bigger.Should I chew eaually on both sides and they will even out or should I chew more on right side, which is less developed?

 

[toasted.potato123]

So is there any evidence at all that chewing with incisors causes ccw rotation of the maxilia or is it cope

Theoreticly it should be possible. When you have a deep bite, orthdontists give you a divice that move upper teeth up or lower teeth down causing it to correct the bite. This gives a ccw like rotation to your jaw so logically it should work if you chew with only incisors

 

[looks2]

So is there any evidence at all that chewing with incisors causes ccw rotation of the maxilia or is it cope

https://looksmax.org/threads/the-ma...acecels-zygocels-gtfih.1087288/#post-16323930
its not just chewing alone that can cause ccw rotation