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COMPREHENSIVE MALE FERTILITY SUPPORT AFTER TESTOSTERONE BLASTS
by @djpac520 • Last updated July 30, 2025
This guide teaches:
In layman's terms, if you inject testosterone from outside the body (exogenous testosterone), your brain senses high testosterone levels in your blood
• FSH (Follicle‑Stimulating Hormone): Drives Sertoli cell–mediated spermatogenesis. (makes swimmers)
– Caveat: HCG alone won’t fully restore spermatogenesis; you still need FSH stimulation.
– Note: Enclomiphene can trigger significant mood changes/depression in many users.
References
Disclaimer: Not medical advice; consult a licensed physician or urologist before implementing any protocol. I am not responsible if you stupid fucks can't or can have kids because you decided to take too many roids too early. Also, for reference, 100% of David's clients after 2-3 months became fertile again. Ronnie, Arnold, and Cbum have all had kids; you can too. GL
by @djpac520 • Last updated July 30, 2025
Introduction
This thread consolidates peer‑reviewed science, David Demesquita’s real‑world experience (13 mo‑old daughter), and community best practices into a single, authoritative guide for preserving or restoring male fertility after long‑term, high‑dose testosterone “blast” cycles, and if you don't already know most of this stuff, and you're already blasting, you're a low-IQ idiot and should be banned from this forum so you don't spread your epigenetically enhanced mistomer. Anyway, so you stupid fucks can have kids one day with a tall Stacy if you manage, unless you're a mexican teenager and can pop out kids whenever you want, read this thread, take notes, and pay attention. Also, this is my first time posting a thread after lurking for more than a year, so if the formatting is bad, you can eat my balls. xx 
Table of Contents
(I made ts colorful so you neurodivergent fucks don't have to pop an addypill to get through this like I would and not get distracted)
- Scope & Purpose
- Mechanism of Axis Suppression
- Role of Clomiphene & Dose Reduction
- Why HCG Is Non‑Negotiable
- FSH Stimulation Strategies
- Key Protocols Summary
- Community Anecdotes & Success Story
- Additional Enhancements
- Closing Thoughts & References
Experienced users report that long‑term, high‑dose testosterone blast cycles don’t always preclude conception, even after months of exogenous suppression. David, whose daughter is now 13 months old, describes conceiving on‑cycle by incorporating HCG and Clomiphene only once his dose was lowered to ~80–100 mg/week and Clomid began to overcome axis suppression [YouTube 1].
1. Scope & Purpose
This guide teaches:
- How exogenous testosterone impairs the HPG axis
- When and how to implement Clomiphene, HCG, and FSH agents
- Sample on‑cycle and PCT protocols
- Supplements, stress management, and lab monitoring for optimal results
2. Mechanism of Axis Suppression
Exogenous testosterone → ↑serum T → negative feedback on hypothalamus → ↓GnRH → ↓LH + ↓FSH → ↓intracellular T & ↓spermatogenesis. Testicular atrophy and azoospermia can follow months of blasts.In layman's terms, if you inject testosterone from outside the body (exogenous testosterone), your brain senses high testosterone levels in your blood
- This tells your hypothalamus (a part of your brain) to dial down the production of GnRH (a hormone that normally tells the pituitary gland what to do).
- With less GnRH, your pituitary gland (another part of your brain) produces less LH and FSH (gonadotropins).
- LH usually stimulates the testes to produce testosterone, while FSH supports sperm production (spermatogenesis).
- With less LH and FSH, the testosterone levels inside the testes drop significantly, which impairs sperm production.
- Prolonged or high doses of external testosterone can lead to testicular atrophy (shrinkage of the testes) and azoospermia (no sperm in the ejaculate).
• FSH (Follicle‑Stimulating Hormone): Drives Sertoli cell–mediated spermatogenesis. (makes swimmers)
3. Role of Clomiphene & Dose Reduction
- Clomiphene citrate (Clomid): SERMs that block estrogen receptors at the hypothalamus, restoring GnRH pulsatility.
- Limitation: At doses >150 mg/week, axis suppression is too deep; Clomid 25–50 mg/day often fails.
- Solution: Lower testosterone to 80–100 mg/week, then Clomid reliably elevates LH/FSH and intratesticular T [1].
4. Why HCG Is Non‑Negotiable
- HCG mimics LH at Leydig cells, preserving testicular volume and testosterone biosynthesis during blasts.
- Protocol: 250–500 IU every other day (EOD) on‑cycle; prevents atrophy and primes for recovery [2][4].
- Benefit: Maintains intratesticular T >100 ng/mL—threshold for spermatogenesis.
- Important: HCG isn’t only for fertility; it preserves testicular health/organ integrity throughout your cycle.
– Caveat: HCG alone won’t fully restore spermatogenesis; you still need FSH stimulation.
5. FSH Stimulation Strategies
- Issue: HCG does not reliably raise FSH to spermatogenic levels.
- Options:
- Enclomiphene (Clomid isomer) 50 mg/day
- Recombinant FSH or HMG 50–75 IU, Tu/Th
- Combined Approach: HCG + FSH agent yields the highest sperm counts and motility in bridges or PCTs [3][6].
– Note: Enclomiphene can trigger significant mood changes/depression in many users.
6. Key Protocols Summary
• On‑Cycle Support
– T: 80–100 mg/week
– HCG: 500 IU 3×/week
– Enclomiphene: 50 mg/day (if needed)
Purpose & Notes: Maintains LH + basal FSH; preserves testicular volume & function.
• Short‑Term PCT
– HCG: 1,000–2,500 IU/day × 14 days
– Enclomiphene: 100 mg/day × 14 days → 50 mg/day × 14 days
– Nolvadex: 20 mg/day
Purpose & Notes: Kick‑starts GnRH → LH/FSH → spermatogenesis.
• Advanced PCT (Bodybuilder)
– HCG: 1,000 IU M/W/F
– HMG: 50–75 IU Tu/Th
Purpose & Notes: Direct LH + FSH; highest efficacy in long‑term steroid users.
This advanced HCG + HMG protocol was first popularized by Dr Colite in the medical TRT community.
- Note: Because esters take ~2 weeks to clear, most guys start PCT 1 week after the last injection, so testosterone is dropping but estrogen hasn’t yet plummeted.
(David personally skipped Clomid entirely on‑cycle due to its depressive side effects.)
• On‑Cycle Support
– T: 80–100 mg/week
– HCG: 500 IU 3×/week
– Enclomiphene: 50 mg/day (if needed)
Purpose & Notes: Maintains LH + basal FSH; preserves testicular volume & function.
• Short‑Term PCT
– HCG: 1,000–2,500 IU/day × 14 days
– Enclomiphene: 100 mg/day × 14 days → 50 mg/day × 14 days
– Nolvadex: 20 mg/day
Purpose & Notes: Kick‑starts GnRH → LH/FSH → spermatogenesis.
• Advanced PCT (Bodybuilder)
– HCG: 1,000 IU M/W/F
– HMG: 50–75 IU Tu/Th
Purpose & Notes: Direct LH + FSH; highest efficacy in long‑term steroid users.
This advanced HCG + HMG protocol was first popularized by Dr Colite in the medical TRT community.
- Note: Because esters take ~2 weeks to clear, most guys start PCT 1 week after the last injection, so testosterone is dropping but estrogen hasn’t yet plummeted.
(David personally skipped Clomid entirely on‑cycle due to its depressive side effects.)
7. Community Anecdotes & Success Story/ies
8. Additional Enhancements
- L‑Carnitine (ALCAR): 200 mg per 50 lb bodyweight IM—boosts sperm motility.
- Stress Management: Mindfulness, schedule flexibility, and avoiding forced intercourse.
- Labs & Monitoring: LH, FSH, total T, estradiol, and semen analysis ~4 weeks into PCT; adjust doses accordingly.
- Psychological boost: HCG+SERMs can lift mood and motivation, leading to better diet, training, and overall recovery.
- DIY checks: OTC sperm‑count kits let you self‑monitor early progress.
9. Closing Thoughts & References
Male factor contributes to ~50 % of infertility, with ~10 % subclinically affected at birth [5]. Steroid use accelerates testicular aging, but with strategic TRT reduction + HCG + FSH stimulation, fertility typically recovers in 2–3 months [6]. Early HCG inclusion is essential—don’t wait.
Male factor contributes to ~50 % of infertility, with ~10 % subclinically affected at birth [5]. Steroid use accelerates testicular aging, but with strategic TRT reduction + HCG + FSH stimulation, fertility typically recovers in 2–3 months [6]. Early HCG inclusion is essential—don’t wait.
References
- Andrology. Clomiphene citrate for male infertility: systematic review & meta‑analysis. 2023; PMID 36680549
- J Clin Endocrinol Metab. HCG and testicular function: stimulation of testosterone. 1983;56(4):720–8. PMID 6833460
- J Clin. invest. FSH and human spermatogenesis. 1980. PMID 6793629
- J Urol. Intramuscular HCG preserves spermatogenesis on TRT. 2013;189(2):647–50. PMID 23260550
- Cureus. Effectiveness of Clomiphene Citrate for sperm concentration: meta‑analysis. 2022; PMID 35733503
- Clin my pookie bear, Ageing Male. Gonadotropin treatment induction of spermatogenesis: HCG vs. HCG+FSH. 2024; PMID 39445789
- David DeMesquita - How to Restore Your Fertility After Enhancement (Bodybuilder Protocol)
- David DeMesquita - How To OPTIMIZE Male Fertility - How My WIFE Got PREGNANT on the First Try
Disclaimer: Not medical advice; consult a licensed physician or urologist before implementing any protocol. I am not responsible if you stupid fucks can't or can have kids because you decided to take too many roids too early. Also, for reference, 100% of David's clients after 2-3 months became fertile again. Ronnie, Arnold, and Cbum have all had kids; you can too. GL
