consciousness is fake

[Eversor]

consciousness is just memories of what ur subconscious mind did nano-seconds ago

there is no free will because theres no such thing as conscious thoughts, ur life as u know it is all just memories

 

[afroheadluke]

consciousness is not just memories
all your threads are just miss after miss
i exposed you for not knowing your surgeries and giving false info and youre still on bullshit
HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN

 

[Eversor]

consciousness is not just memories

prove it

 

[afroheadluke]

prove it

CONSCIOUS THOUGHTS LITERALLY DO EXIST YOU HAD ONE TO MAKE THIS THREAD YOU HAD ONE TO READ WHAT IM SAYING!

 

[afroheadluke]

prove it

IS ACTING STUPID YOUR HIGH? IT MAKES YOU FEEL SO TICKLED DOESNT IT?

 

[Eversor]

CONSCIOUS THOUGHTS LITERALLY DO EXIST YOU HAD ONE TO MAKE THIS THREAD YOU HAD ONE TO READ WHAT IM SAYING!

no my subconscious had all of the thoughts and then i had memories about my thoughts from nano-seconds ago

 

[Eskorbutin]

Not really + you can't prove it

 

[Eversor]

Not really + you can't prove it

u cant prove me wrong

 

[Eskorbutin]

u cant prove me wrong

Explain anxiety

 

[afroheadluke]

Explain anxiety

dont even bother with this guy at all he just copes with circular reasoning

 

[Eversor]

Explain anxiety

its subconscious

 

[Eversor]

dont even bother with this guy at all he just copes with circular reasoning

ur just too dumb to prove me wrong

 

[unstable]

CONSCIOUS THOUGHTS LITERALLY DO EXIST YOU HAD ONE TO MAKE THIS THREAD YOU HAD ONE TO READ WHAT IM SAYING!

ok think a original thought right now that is not influenced by previous memories

Explain anxiety

neuroscience and evolution can explain it.

 

[L1mbal]

ok think a original thought right now that is not influenced by previous memories

neuroscience and evolution can explain it.

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[Eskorbutin]

its subconscious

You are not explaining. You are not the first to come up with this

 

[alurmo]

consioussness imo is more like a messanger of whats really inside of you, which is drives, instincts, animalistic nature and forces
i would say consioussness if forsure the first to appear in humans tho, the latest development of nature, but there must be something higher then consioussness if its simply just developed for a purpose to thrive

 

[unstable]

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[Eskorbutin]

consioussness imo is more like a messanger of whats really inside of you, which is drives, instincts, animalistic nature and forces
i would say consioussness if forsure the first to appear in humans tho, the latest development of nature, but there must be something higher then consioussness if its simply just developed for a purpose to thrive

Consciousness is a product, primarily of three things:
Reason
Self consciousness or the consciousness of The Other
Consciousness proper

 

[Eversor]

ok think a original thought right now that is not influenced by previous memories

neuroscience and evolution can explain it.

i remember arguing with @theRetard about physicalism with u, and her argument was its dumb because of consciousness, but if consciousness doesnt exist then physcialism is inevitable

 

[afroheadluke]

ok think a original thought right now that is not influenced by previous memories

i said conscious thoughts exist not what youre saying

 

[ifconfig]

Wow u should be a philosopher

 

[kevbsa]

i too feel that conciousness is more of an aftreffect of the neural activity in your brain, you dont generate a thought conciously but just get aware of the thought. its like an extra step of thinking before taking actions

 

[alurmo]

Consciousness is a product, primarily of three things:
Reason
Self consciousness or the consciousness of The Other
Consciousness proper

let me just focus on the part of reason which you touched on, i think the rest are kinda going too mystical and esoteric
firstly reason is very limited in itself, as imo it makes people have a illusion of control over the world, which they dont really have, just like i stated in the earler reply, reason which is a thing of the consioussness, is likely used by people to mask their animalistic drives and forces
but even tho im not a big fan of reason it can be used for good, as long as u dont rely on reason purely

 

[unstable]

i said conscious thoughts exist not what youre saying

ma bad bhai. but what is a conscious thought.

 

[Eversor]

either everything is conscious or nothing is conscious, because consciousness (non-matter) cant react with physical matter, its impossible

 

[Eskorbutin]

let me just focus on the part of reason which you touched on, i think the rest are kinda going too mystical and esoteric
firstly reason is very limited in itself, as imo it makes people have a illusion of control over the world, which they dont really have, just like i stated in the earler reply, reason which is a thing of the consioussness, is likely used by people to mask their animalistic drives and forces
but even tho im not a big fan of reason it can be used for good, as long as u dont rely on reason purely

Of course is mystical for you Schopenhauer

 

[afroheadluke]

ma bad bhai. but what is a conscious thought.

simply a thought you are aware of having

 

[Eversor]

simply a thought you are aware of having

u are aware ur subconscious made thoughts, u dont prove anything, memories are awareness

 

[alurmo]

u are aware ur subconscious made thoughts, u dont prove anything, memories are awareness

i may be too abstract here but memories themselves are interpretations, i feel like the memories you have are infact real, but distorted in a way to server your purpose, most people like to forget alot of things in memory to serve themself
but yeah memory also reinforces your illusion of the self, and memory you interpreted is therefore one of the components of that non real "I"
in the end memory is functional and not teh ultimate truth

 

[Eversor]

i may be too abstract here but memories themselves are interpretations, i feel like the memories you have are infact real, but distorted in a way to server your purpose, most people like to forget alot of things in memory to serve themself
but yeah memory also reinforces your illusion of the self, and memory you interpreted is therefore one of the components of that non real "I"
in the end memory is functional and not teh ultimate truth

ur memories of subconscious nano-seconds ago are just closer interpretations, but i agree

 

[alurmo]

ur memories of subconscious nano-seconds ago are just closer interpretations, but i agree

yeah i also agree, even instant memories are interpretative, everything, even the ones from a nano second ago, is always being filtered through your perception, attention and drives, there is no raw unfiltered memory in truth

 

[Eskorbutin]

You are just completely ignoring the fucking meaning of the words and I'm getting already mad

 

[Eskorbutin]

Subconsciously does not mean unconsciously.
You are mixing each.

 

[Eversor]

Subconsciously does not mean unconsciously.
You are mixing each.

no im not

"subconsciously

in a way that is influenced by the part of the mind of which one is not fully aware"

 

[tomahawk]

I think, therefore, I am.

 

[Eskorbutin]

no im not

"subconsciously

in a way that is influenced by the part of the mind of which one is not fully aware"

And what system is that? Where does it come from? Do you even know?

 

[Eversor]

I think, therefore, I am.

u dont think tho

 

[Eskorbutin]

In fact, you didn't even reply to me to the anxiety with an actual explanation because you don't have any.

 

[tunisianropemaxxer]

consciousness is just memories of what ur subconscious mind did nano-seconds ago

there is no free will because theres no such thing as conscious thoughts, ur life as u know it is all just memories

Did yk everytime u remember something ur brain is not remembering that moment but its actually remembering the last time u thought about that moment

 

[Eversor]

In fact, you didn't even reply to me to the anxiety with an actual explanation because you don't have any.

its subconscious

u just have a memory of being anxious

 

[Eskorbutin]

u just have a memory of being anxious

So as I am pressing this keys to type these letters, am I reminiscing how I typed this exact same message and words to you?

 

[alurmo]

I think, therefore, I am.

too many dogmatic assumptions in your text
however a more accurate description of this would be "it thinks, therefore it wills, and through that, it becomes."

 

[Eversor]

So as I am pressing this keys to type these letters, am I reminiscing how I typed this exact same message and words to you?

ur subconscious mind is typing and u are remembering what u did

 

[Eskorbutin]

ur subconscious mind is typing and u are remembering what u did

Unconscious ragebait. Close thread.

 

[Eversor]

Unconcious ragebait. Close thread.

why are u so emotional?

 

[Eskorbutin]

why are u so emotional?

Why are you not passionate about your beliefs? Its not but an unquenchable unhappy thrist what brings us to truth. I'll do anything to know wether I'm right or not and I'm mad that you can't even prove yourself right.

 

[Eversor]

Why are you not passionate about your beliefs? Its not but an unquenchable unhappy thrist what brings us to truth. I'll do anything to know wether I'm right or not and I'm mad that you can't even prove yourself right.

u havent proved anything i said wrong

 

[Eskorbutin]

u havent proved anything i said wrong

Yes, in a reply I already posted what consciousness stems from. And just our conversation proves that at least The Other is needed.

 

[Eversor]

Yes, in a reply I already posted what consciousness stems from.

it wasnt proof, u just wrote random words

And just our conversation proves that at least The Other is needed.

how?

 

[Eskorbutin]

how?

Because by making this differentiation you are recognizing yourself through me, who is someone completely (externally, so not in a "meaning" way, we are different beings) different to you.