COPEMAXX ASCENSION PLAN (WITH before pics)

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Useful Stats before I started preparation:
  • 18 yr 2 months
  • 5’11, 180 cm unfrauded
  • 183 lbs 21-24% BF
  • Bidelt like 18.9 inches
  • Bench 170 LBs x 5
  • Squat idgaf deadlift idgaf


Stats after preparation for cycle (ideally)
  • 152-162 LBS 12-15%
    • starvemaxxing/leanmaxxing obvi,
      • Sprint routine 4-6 times a week
      • Walk 10-30 k steps daily
    • Eat around 1000-1200 calories of chicken breast/eggs daily
      • On days i am vry busy I will not eat (1-2 days a week)
  • DAILY DEFICIT: 2000-3000 cal
    • 24% - 12% = 12%... .12% x 183 (bodyweight) = 21.96 x 3500 (1lb fat) = 76.8k cal defecit. Assuming an avg defecit of 2500 daily, this will take ~30 days (76.8 cal /2500cal def)
      • I am a week into this already and im at 174 (mostly glycogen, water etc.)


SUPPLEMENTS/CYCLE:
- 500 MG Testosterone E, Cycle 14-17.5 weeks, with daily injection. alternate left quad, right quad, subq. DOSAGE: 71 mg or .33 ml daily +
- Arimidex for AI (less harsh on hair) (not daily obvi, as needed)
- HCG for post cycle
- a cruise on 100-200 mg weekly after depending on levels (I have this prescribed medically for hypogonadism which i actually had/have)
- (maybe a sarm like MK677 or ideally CJC for IGF-1 and bone development, cant find good CJC source tho and mk is iffy)
- Creatine monohydrate 5G
- Vit D 10k IU w K2 (MK7)
- L Carnitine megadose 4,000 MG (potentially increases androgen receptor sensitivty)
- astaxanthin 12mg
- multi vit
- potassium sup for regulating 3:1-5:1 ratio as needed


DIET
  • FOCUSES: BORON, DIETARY CALCIUM, PHOSPHORUS, MAGNESIUM
  • CURRENT MANTIENCE: ROUGHLY 2.8-3.1 K.
- 3400-3700 cal
- MEAL 1
Beef tallow (10g)
8 eggs
- MEAL 2
avocado (200g)
85/15 groundbeef (250g)
- MEAL 3
Sweet potato (300g)
85/15 groundbeef (250g)
- MEAL 4
Chicken thigh (500g)
- PREWORKOUT MEAL
2 Kiwi (micronutrient)
subsitute blackberries
Substitute strawberry
Substitute a different fucking berry RETARD
  • OTHER THINGS I WILL BE EATING REGULARLY (but not on calculated into regular diet as of right now due to slightly less frequency, 2-5 days per week)
More avocado + natural honey for (boron)
dark chocolate mayb
Colostrum (diatery calcium, raw milk sub)
Unsalted grassfed butter
Goat fat from butcher (if i can source)
At times i will probably be eating other natural foods, but this all main stuff
gut foods (have this 2-7x weekly)
- kefir grains
- Saurorkrout
- kombucha

Cal for diet above: 3650 -- specific alterations will be made depending on availability of food, digestion, etc. This is just my 'defualt' diet.
Meats will be occasionally substituted with salmon/chicken thigh/chicken breast/steak/, beef liver/other fish (16oz liver weekly max, I got bad vitamin toxcitiy from eating 12 oz of this everyday awhile back and had hospitalmaxx and be ivcel)


ACTIVITY:
- Avg 10-20k steps daily
- SPRINT 5-10 sets, 15-30 sec (3-5 X weekly) BOOST IGF-1
-SPLIT
- Push (a)
- Benchpress (4x4-6) (Strength oriented)
- Lateral raise (4x7-12) (end w/ dropset)
- Pull
- Reeves deadlift (4x6-10)
- barbell row (4x10-15)
- bicep thing idk yet
- Farmers walk (dropset)
Rest
- Push (b)
- bench press (5x8-13) (Hypertrophy oriented)
- Lateral raise (4x7-12) (end w/ dropset)
- Pull
- T-bar rows (6x10-16)
- pullup dropset (maybe)
- bicep thing idk yet
Rest


HAIR:
I do have a bald gene in my family so I am trying to prevent it
- 1.00 M derma roller for hairline 1-2x weekly (morning)
- vertically roll 6 times + horizontally roll 6 times
- rinse with warm water
- soak roller in 70% isopropyl alcohol 1-2 week
- topical 5% rogain minoxidil (night)
- niacin kentozocale shampoo 1%
- 1-2x weekly
- microfiber towel
Post cycle I will be getting on finasteride or dut or oral minoxidil. m not doing this on cycle as I have heard anecdotes of fin making e2 sides more difficult to manage. As it is my first cycle and it is relatively low in terms of affects on DHT and thus hairloss, i think i will be fine until after.


EYEBROWS:
- .5 mm derma roller for brow
(Routine, morning, 5-6 weekly)
- vertically + horizontal roll 6 times
- soak in 70% isopropyl 1-2x a week
- apply topical minoxidil for brow thickness
(Routine, nightly)
- apply quitip with minoxidil and brush inwards


TEETH:
- Crest teeth whitener
(5-6 times per week)
- cut strips in half, one strip can be used for top and bottom of teeth
- leave in for 25-30 minutes
- i saw no results with hydrogen peroxide except my mouth fucking stinging
- I will consider brushing every few days
SKIN:
  • La roche pussy mostuizur + sunscreen
    • When i run out of this im going to get a PA+++ or wtver
  • Retinol at night


(COPE) THINGS I WILL BE TRYING:
  • 1-2X A WEEK I WILL BE SPIKING INSULIN W CARBS TO PROMOTE IGF-1 (this might be cope idek)
    • Sprint then eat a a ton ton of fruit, then sprint more (if i can)
  • Massage gun for bonesmashing CHIN and zygomatic process (NOT UNDER EYE or SIDE OF HEAD) i think this is cope, but w a masssage gun + test + absorbption of dietary calcium it MIGHT have an effect.
  • ??? any suggestions ???


Halo:
chadlite coloring w my eyes
argueabely hair
side profile.

Falios/problems:
Narrow lower third. (worse in some other pics)
Somewhat recessed in side profile
Low Bonemass
Teeth are not optimal (yellowish + not super straight, but getting them white will make them way more passable)
Physique is horrible


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Good thread, I wish you luck bhai
 
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Useful Stats before I started preparation:
  • 18 yr 2 months
  • 5’11, 180 cm unfrauded
  • 183 lbs 21-24% BF
  • Bidelt like 18.9 inches
  • Bench 170 LBs x 5
  • Squat idgaf deadlift idgaf


Stats after preparation for cycle (ideally)
  • 152-162 LBS 12-15%
    • starvemaxxing/leanmaxxing obvi,
      • Sprint routine 4-6 times a week
      • Walk 10-30 k steps daily
    • Eat around 1000-1200 calories of chicken breast/eggs daily
      • On days i am vry busy I will not eat (1-2 days a week)
  • DAILY DEFICIT: 2000-3000 cal
    • 24% - 12% = 12%... .12% x 183 (bodyweight) = 21.96 x 3500 (1lb fat) = 76.8k cal defecit. Assuming an avg defecit of 2500 daily, this will take ~30 days (76.8 cal /2500cal def)
      • I am a week into this already and im at 174 (mostly glycogen, water etc.)


SUPPLEMENTS/CYCLE:
- 500 MG Testosterone E, Cycle 14-17.5 weeks, with daily injection. alternate left quad, right quad, subq. DOSAGE: 71 mg or .33 ml daily +
- Arimidex for AI (less harsh on hair) (not daily obvi, as needed)
- HCG for post cycle
- a cruise on 100-200 mg weekly after depending on levels (I have this prescribed medically for hypogonadism which i actually had/have)
- (maybe a sarm like MK677 or ideally CJC for IGF-1 and bone development, cant find good CJC source tho and mk is iffy)
- Creatine monohydrate 5G
- Vit D 10k IU w K2 (MK7)
- L Carnitine megadose 4,000 MG (potentially increases androgen receptor sensitivty)
- astaxanthin 12mg
- multi vit
- potassium sup for regulating 3:1-5:1 ratio as needed


DIET
  • FOCUSES: BORON, DIETARY CALCIUM, PHOSPHORUS, MAGNESIUM
  • CURRENT MANTIENCE: ROUGHLY 2.8-3.1 K.
- 3400-3700 cal
- MEAL 1
Beef tallow (10g)
8 eggs
- MEAL 2
avocado (200g)
85/15 groundbeef (250g)
- MEAL 3
Sweet potato (300g)
85/15 groundbeef (250g)
- MEAL 4
Chicken thigh (500g)
- PREWORKOUT MEAL
2 Kiwi (micronutrient)
subsitute blackberries
Substitute strawberry
Substitute a different fucking berry RETARD
  • OTHER THINGS I WILL BE EATING REGULARLY (but not on calculated into regular diet as of right now due to slightly less frequency, 2-5 days per week)
More avocado + natural honey for (boron)
dark chocolate mayb
Colostrum (diatery calcium, raw milk sub)
Unsalted grassfed butter
Goat fat from butcher (if i can source)
At times i will probably be eating other natural foods, but this all main stuff
gut foods (have this 2-7x weekly)
- kefir grains
- Saurorkrout
- kombucha

Cal for diet above: 3650 -- specific alterations will be made depending on availability of food, digestion, etc. This is just my 'defualt' diet.
Meats will be occasionally substituted with salmon/chicken thigh/chicken breast/steak/, beef liver/other fish (16oz liver weekly max, I got bad vitamin toxcitiy from eating 12 oz of this everyday awhile back and had hospitalmaxx and be ivcel)


ACTIVITY:
- Avg 10-20k steps daily
- SPRINT 5-10 sets, 15-30 sec (3-5 X weekly) BOOST IGF-1
-SPLIT
- Push (a)
- Benchpress (4x4-6) (Strength oriented)
- Lateral raise (4x7-12) (end w/ dropset)
- Pull
- Reeves deadlift (4x6-10)
- barbell row (4x10-15)
- bicep thing idk yet
- Farmers walk (dropset)
Rest
- Push (b)
- bench press (5x8-13) (Hypertrophy oriented)
- Lateral raise (4x7-12) (end w/ dropset)
- Pull
- T-bar rows (6x10-16)
- pullup dropset (maybe)
- bicep thing idk yet
Rest


HAIR:
I do have a bald gene in my family so I am trying to prevent it
- 1.00 M derma roller for hairline 1-2x weekly (morning)
- vertically roll 6 times + horizontally roll 6 times
- rinse with warm water
- soak roller in 70% isopropyl alcohol 1-2 week
- topical 5% rogain minoxidil (night)
- niacin kentozocale shampoo 1%
- 1-2x weekly
- microfiber towel
Post cycle I will be getting on finasteride or dut or oral minoxidil. m not doing this on cycle as I have heard anecdotes of fin making e2 sides more difficult to manage. As it is my first cycle and it is relatively low in terms of affects on DHT and thus hairloss, i think i will be fine until after.


EYEBROWS:
- .5 mm derma roller for brow
(Routine, morning, 5-6 weekly)
- vertically + horizontal roll 6 times
- soak in 70% isopropyl 1-2x a week
- apply topical minoxidil for brow thickness
(Routine, nightly)
- apply quitip with minoxidil and brush inwards


TEETH:
- Crest teeth whitener
(5-6 times per week)
- cut strips in half, one strip can be used for top and bottom of teeth
- leave in for 25-30 minutes
- i saw no results with hydrogen peroxide except my mouth fucking stinging
- I will consider brushing every few days
SKIN:
  • La roche pussy mostuizur + sunscreen
    • When i run out of this im going to get a PA+++ or wtver
  • Retinol at night


(COPE) THINGS I WILL BE TRYING:
  • 1-2X A WEEK I WILL BE SPIKING INSULIN W CARBS TO PROMOTE IGF-1 (this might be cope idek)
    • Sprint then eat a a ton ton of fruit, then sprint more (if i can)
  • Massage gun for bonesmashing CHIN and zygomatic process (NOT UNDER EYE or SIDE OF HEAD) i think this is cope, but w a masssage gun + test + absorbption of dietary calcium it MIGHT have an effect.
  • ??? any suggestions ???






Faggot
 
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What are you doing for masseter and lateral zygo development
 
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ACTIVITY:
- Avg 10-20k steps daily
- SPRINT 5-10 sets, 15-30 sec (3-5 X weekly) BOOST IGF-1
-SPLIT
- Push (a)
- Benchpress (4x4-6) (Strength oriented)
- Lateral raise (4x7-12) (end w/ dropset)
- Pull
- Reeves deadlift (4x6-10)
- barbell row (4x10-15)
- bicep thing idk yet
- Farmers walk (dropset)
Rest
- Push (b)
- bench press (5x8-13) (Hypertrophy oriented)
- Lateral raise (4x7-12) (end w/ dropset)
- Pull
- T-bar rows (6x10-16)
- pullup dropset (maybe)
- bicep thing idk yet
Rest
Deltoids r a big part of looking aesthetic, why do u only have lateral raises? ok bench press activates the frontal deltoid but still... just add, rear delt pec dec or wtv rear delt variation, frontal raises and overhead press.
 
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Deltoids r a big part of looking aesthetic, why do u only have lateral raises? ok bench press activates the frontal deltoid but still... just add, rear delt pec dec or wtv rear delt variation, frontal raises and overhead press.
i will add more shoulder excersizes for push day thank you bhai
 
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Useful Stats before I started preparation:
  • 18 yr 2 months
  • 5’11, 180 cm unfrauded
  • 183 lbs 21-24% BF
  • Bidelt like 18.9 inches
  • Bench 170 LBs x 5
  • Squat idgaf deadlift idgaf


Stats after preparation for cycle (ideally)
  • 152-162 LBS 12-15%
    • starvemaxxing/leanmaxxing obvi,
      • Sprint routine 4-6 times a week
      • Walk 10-30 k steps daily
    • Eat around 1000-1200 calories of chicken breast/eggs daily
      • On days i am vry busy I will not eat (1-2 days a week)
  • DAILY DEFICIT: 2000-3000 cal
    • 24% - 12% = 12%... .12% x 183 (bodyweight) = 21.96 x 3500 (1lb fat) = 76.8k cal defecit. Assuming an avg defecit of 2500 daily, this will take ~30 days (76.8 cal /2500cal def)
      • I am a week into this already and im at 174 (mostly glycogen, water etc.)


SUPPLEMENTS/CYCLE:
- 500 MG Testosterone E, Cycle 14-17.5 weeks, with daily injection. alternate left quad, right quad, subq. DOSAGE: 71 mg or .33 ml daily +
- Arimidex for AI (less harsh on hair) (not daily obvi, as needed)
- HCG for post cycle
- a cruise on 100-200 mg weekly after depending on levels (I have this prescribed medically for hypogonadism which i actually had/have)
- (maybe a sarm like MK677 or ideally CJC for IGF-1 and bone development, cant find good CJC source tho and mk is iffy)
- Creatine monohydrate 5G
- Vit D 10k IU w K2 (MK7)
- L Carnitine megadose 4,000 MG (potentially increases androgen receptor sensitivty)
- astaxanthin 12mg
- multi vit
- potassium sup for regulating 3:1-5:1 ratio as needed


DIET
  • FOCUSES: BORON, DIETARY CALCIUM, PHOSPHORUS, MAGNESIUM
  • CURRENT MANTIENCE: ROUGHLY 2.8-3.1 K.
- 3400-3700 cal
- MEAL 1
Beef tallow (10g)
8 eggs
- MEAL 2
avocado (200g)
85/15 groundbeef (250g)
- MEAL 3
Sweet potato (300g)
85/15 groundbeef (250g)
- MEAL 4
Chicken thigh (500g)
- PREWORKOUT MEAL
2 Kiwi (micronutrient)
subsitute blackberries
Substitute strawberry
Substitute a different fucking berry RETARD
  • OTHER THINGS I WILL BE EATING REGULARLY (but not on calculated into regular diet as of right now due to slightly less frequency, 2-5 days per week)
More avocado + natural honey for (boron)
dark chocolate mayb
Colostrum (diatery calcium, raw milk sub)
Unsalted grassfed butter
Goat fat from butcher (if i can source)
At times i will probably be eating other natural foods, but this all main stuff
gut foods (have this 2-7x weekly)
- kefir grains
- Saurorkrout
- kombucha

Cal for diet above: 3650 -- specific alterations will be made depending on availability of food, digestion, etc. This is just my 'defualt' diet.
Meats will be occasionally substituted with salmon/chicken thigh/chicken breast/steak/, beef liver/other fish (16oz liver weekly max, I got bad vitamin toxcitiy from eating 12 oz of this everyday awhile back and had hospitalmaxx and be ivcel)


ACTIVITY:
- Avg 10-20k steps daily
- SPRINT 5-10 sets, 15-30 sec (3-5 X weekly) BOOST IGF-1
-SPLIT
- Push (a)
- Benchpress (4x4-6) (Strength oriented)
- Lateral raise (4x7-12) (end w/ dropset)
- Pull
- Reeves deadlift (4x6-10)
- barbell row (4x10-15)
- bicep thing idk yet
- Farmers walk (dropset)
Rest
- Push (b)
- bench press (5x8-13) (Hypertrophy oriented)
- Lateral raise (4x7-12) (end w/ dropset)
- Pull
- T-bar rows (6x10-16)
- pullup dropset (maybe)
- bicep thing idk yet
Rest


HAIR:
I do have a bald gene in my family so I am trying to prevent it
- 1.00 M derma roller for hairline 1-2x weekly (morning)
- vertically roll 6 times + horizontally roll 6 times
- rinse with warm water
- soak roller in 70% isopropyl alcohol 1-2 week
- topical 5% rogain minoxidil (night)
- niacin kentozocale shampoo 1%
- 1-2x weekly
- microfiber towel
Post cycle I will be getting on finasteride or dut or oral minoxidil. m not doing this on cycle as I have heard anecdotes of fin making e2 sides more difficult to manage. As it is my first cycle and it is relatively low in terms of affects on DHT and thus hairloss, i think i will be fine until after.


EYEBROWS:
- .5 mm derma roller for brow
(Routine, morning, 5-6 weekly)
- vertically + horizontal roll 6 times
- soak in 70% isopropyl 1-2x a week
- apply topical minoxidil for brow thickness
(Routine, nightly)
- apply quitip with minoxidil and brush inwards


TEETH:
- Crest teeth whitener
(5-6 times per week)
- cut strips in half, one strip can be used for top and bottom of teeth
- leave in for 25-30 minutes
- i saw no results with hydrogen peroxide except my mouth fucking stinging
- I will consider brushing every few days
SKIN:
  • La roche pussy mostuizur + sunscreen
    • When i run out of this im going to get a PA+++ or wtver
  • Retinol at night


(COPE) THINGS I WILL BE TRYING:
  • 1-2X A WEEK I WILL BE SPIKING INSULIN W CARBS TO PROMOTE IGF-1 (this might be cope idek)
    • Sprint then eat a a ton ton of fruit, then sprint more (if i can)
  • Massage gun for bonesmashing CHIN and zygomatic process (NOT UNDER EYE or SIDE OF HEAD) i think this is cope, but w a masssage gun + test + absorbption of dietary calcium it MIGHT have an effect.
  • ??? any suggestions ???


Halo:
chadlite coloring w my eyes
argueabely hair
side profile.

Falios/problems:
Narrow lower third. (worse in some other pics)
Somewhat recessed in side profile
Low Bonemass
Teeth are not optimal (yellowish + not super straight, but getting them white will make them way more passable)
Physique is horrible






dd spinach and dark chocolate for myostatin decrease
 
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fat people say its over, but look at the difference of your before pics and now
 
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Myostatin inhibits muscle growth. Steroids act as preventing myostatin which is what skyrocketing gains
to build more muscle without myostatin interference
thank you each for this knowledge, ill add spinach to my eggs every day and do a bit of research on optimal amount
 
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You didn't say how long that took. Yes you did ascend tho
 
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You didn't say how long that took. Yes you did ascend tho
It’s been about 3.5 years since my before before, however it wasn’t linear in terms of maximizing potential, for a long time i was just losing weight
 
It’s been about 3.5 years since my before before, however it wasn’t linear in terms of maximizing potential, for a long time i was just losing weight
this is to say i could’ve achieved my current a lot sooner if i had taken proper steps
 
Useful Stats before I started preparation:
  • 18 yr 2 months
  • 5’11, 180 cm unfrauded
  • 183 lbs 21-24% BF
  • Bidelt like 18.9 inches
  • Bench 170 LBs x 5
  • Squat idgaf deadlift idgaf


Stats after preparation for cycle (ideally)
  • 152-162 LBS 12-15%
    • starvemaxxing/leanmaxxing obvi,
      • Sprint routine 4-6 times a week
      • Walk 10-30 k steps daily
    • Eat around 1000-1200 calories of chicken breast/eggs daily
      • On days i am vry busy I will not eat (1-2 days a week)
  • DAILY DEFICIT: 2000-3000 cal
    • 24% - 12% = 12%... .12% x 183 (bodyweight) = 21.96 x 3500 (1lb fat) = 76.8k cal defecit. Assuming an avg defecit of 2500 daily, this will take ~30 days (76.8 cal /2500cal def)
      • I am a week into this already and im at 174 (mostly glycogen, water etc.)


SUPPLEMENTS/CYCLE:
- 500 MG Testosterone E, Cycle 14-17.5 weeks, with daily injection. alternate left quad, right quad, subq. DOSAGE: 71 mg or .33 ml daily +
- Arimidex for AI (less harsh on hair) (not daily obvi, as needed)
- HCG for post cycle
- a cruise on 100-200 mg weekly after depending on levels (I have this prescribed medically for hypogonadism which i actually had/have)
- (maybe a sarm like MK677 or ideally CJC for IGF-1 and bone development, cant find good CJC source tho and mk is iffy)
- Creatine monohydrate 5G
- Vit D 10k IU w K2 (MK7)
- L Carnitine megadose 4,000 MG (potentially increases androgen receptor sensitivty)
- astaxanthin 12mg
- multi vit
- potassium sup for regulating 3:1-5:1 ratio as needed


DIET
  • FOCUSES: BORON, DIETARY CALCIUM, PHOSPHORUS, MAGNESIUM
  • CURRENT MANTIENCE: ROUGHLY 2.8-3.1 K.
- 3400-3700 cal
- MEAL 1
Beef tallow (10g)
8 eggs
- MEAL 2
avocado (200g)
85/15 groundbeef (250g)
- MEAL 3
Sweet potato (300g)
85/15 groundbeef (250g)
- MEAL 4
Chicken thigh (500g)
- PREWORKOUT MEAL
2 Kiwi (micronutrient)
subsitute blackberries
Substitute strawberry
Substitute a different fucking berry RETARD
  • OTHER THINGS I WILL BE EATING REGULARLY (but not on calculated into regular diet as of right now due to slightly less frequency, 2-5 days per week)
More avocado + natural honey for (boron)
dark chocolate mayb
Colostrum (diatery calcium, raw milk sub)
Unsalted grassfed butter
Goat fat from butcher (if i can source)
At times i will probably be eating other natural foods, but this all main stuff
gut foods (have this 2-7x weekly)
- kefir grains
- Saurorkrout
- kombucha

Cal for diet above: 3650 -- specific alterations will be made depending on availability of food, digestion, etc. This is just my 'defualt' diet.
Meats will be occasionally substituted with salmon/chicken thigh/chicken breast/steak/, beef liver/other fish (16oz liver weekly max, I got bad vitamin toxcitiy from eating 12 oz of this everyday awhile back and had hospitalmaxx and be ivcel)


ACTIVITY:
- Avg 10-20k steps daily
- SPRINT 5-10 sets, 15-30 sec (3-5 X weekly) BOOST IGF-1
-SPLIT
- Push (a)
- Benchpress (4x4-6) (Strength oriented)
- Lateral raise (4x7-12) (end w/ dropset)
- Pull
- Reeves deadlift (4x6-10)
- barbell row (4x10-15)
- bicep thing idk yet
- Farmers walk (dropset)
Rest
- Push (b)
- bench press (5x8-13) (Hypertrophy oriented)
- Lateral raise (4x7-12) (end w/ dropset)
- Pull
- T-bar rows (6x10-16)
- pullup dropset (maybe)
- bicep thing idk yet
Rest


HAIR:
I do have a bald gene in my family so I am trying to prevent it
- 1.00 M derma roller for hairline 1-2x weekly (morning)
- vertically roll 6 times + horizontally roll 6 times
- rinse with warm water
- soak roller in 70% isopropyl alcohol 1-2 week
- topical 5% rogain minoxidil (night)
- niacin kentozocale shampoo 1%
- 1-2x weekly
- microfiber towel
Post cycle I will be getting on finasteride or dut or oral minoxidil. m not doing this on cycle as I have heard anecdotes of fin making e2 sides more difficult to manage. As it is my first cycle and it is relatively low in terms of affects on DHT and thus hairloss, i think i will be fine until after.


EYEBROWS:
- .5 mm derma roller for brow
(Routine, morning, 5-6 weekly)
- vertically + horizontal roll 6 times
- soak in 70% isopropyl 1-2x a week
- apply topical minoxidil for brow thickness
(Routine, nightly)
- apply quitip with minoxidil and brush inwards


TEETH:
- Crest teeth whitener
(5-6 times per week)
- cut strips in half, one strip can be used for top and bottom of teeth
- leave in for 25-30 minutes
- i saw no results with hydrogen peroxide except my mouth fucking stinging
- I will consider brushing every few days
SKIN:
  • La roche pussy mostuizur + sunscreen
    • When i run out of this im going to get a PA+++ or wtver
  • Retinol at night


(COPE) THINGS I WILL BE TRYING:
  • 1-2X A WEEK I WILL BE SPIKING INSULIN W CARBS TO PROMOTE IGF-1 (this might be cope idek)
    • Sprint then eat a a ton ton of fruit, then sprint more (if i can)
  • Massage gun for bonesmashing CHIN and zygomatic process (NOT UNDER EYE or SIDE OF HEAD) i think this is cope, but w a masssage gun + test + absorbption of dietary calcium it MIGHT have an effect.
  • ??? any suggestions ???


Halo:
chadlite coloring w my eyes
argueabely hair
side profile.

Falios/problems:
Narrow lower third. (worse in some other pics)
Somewhat recessed in side profile
Low Bonemass
Teeth are not optimal (yellowish + not super straight, but getting them white will make them way more passable)
Physique is horrible






Dnr but high effort
 
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Useful Stats before I started preparation:
  • 18 yr 2 months
  • 5’11, 180 cm unfrauded
  • 183 lbs 21-24% BF
  • Bidelt like 18.9 inches
  • Bench 170 LBs x 5
  • Squat idgaf deadlift idgaf


Stats after preparation for cycle (ideally)
  • 152-162 LBS 12-15%
    • starvemaxxing/leanmaxxing obvi,
      • Sprint routine 4-6 times a week
      • Walk 10-30 k steps daily
    • Eat around 1000-1200 calories of chicken breast/eggs daily
      • On days i am vry busy I will not eat (1-2 days a week)
  • DAILY DEFICIT: 2000-3000 cal
    • 24% - 12% = 12%... .12% x 183 (bodyweight) = 21.96 x 3500 (1lb fat) = 76.8k cal defecit. Assuming an avg defecit of 2500 daily, this will take ~30 days (76.8 cal /2500cal def)
      • I am a week into this already and im at 174 (mostly glycogen, water etc.)


SUPPLEMENTS/CYCLE:
- 500 MG Testosterone E, Cycle 14-17.5 weeks, with daily injection. alternate left quad, right quad, subq. DOSAGE: 71 mg or .33 ml daily +
- Arimidex for AI (less harsh on hair) (not daily obvi, as needed)
- HCG for post cycle
- a cruise on 100-200 mg weekly after depending on levels (I have this prescribed medically for hypogonadism which i actually had/have)
- (maybe a sarm like MK677 or ideally CJC for IGF-1 and bone development, cant find good CJC source tho and mk is iffy)
- Creatine monohydrate 5G
- Vit D 10k IU w K2 (MK7)
- L Carnitine megadose 4,000 MG (potentially increases androgen receptor sensitivty)
- astaxanthin 12mg
- multi vit
- potassium sup for regulating 3:1-5:1 ratio as needed


DIET
  • FOCUSES: BORON, DIETARY CALCIUM, PHOSPHORUS, MAGNESIUM
  • CURRENT MANTIENCE: ROUGHLY 2.8-3.1 K.
- 3400-3700 cal
- MEAL 1
Beef tallow (10g)
8 eggs
- MEAL 2
avocado (200g)
85/15 groundbeef (250g)
- MEAL 3
Sweet potato (300g)
85/15 groundbeef (250g)
- MEAL 4
Chicken thigh (500g)
- PREWORKOUT MEAL
2 Kiwi (micronutrient)
subsitute blackberries
Substitute strawberry
Substitute a different fucking berry RETARD
  • OTHER THINGS I WILL BE EATING REGULARLY (but not on calculated into regular diet as of right now due to slightly less frequency, 2-5 days per week)
More avocado + natural honey for (boron)
dark chocolate mayb
Colostrum (diatery calcium, raw milk sub)
Unsalted grassfed butter
Goat fat from butcher (if i can source)
At times i will probably be eating other natural foods, but this all main stuff
gut foods (have this 2-7x weekly)
- kefir grains
- Saurorkrout
- kombucha

Cal for diet above: 3650 -- specific alterations will be made depending on availability of food, digestion, etc. This is just my 'defualt' diet.
Meats will be occasionally substituted with salmon/chicken thigh/chicken breast/steak/, beef liver/other fish (16oz liver weekly max, I got bad vitamin toxcitiy from eating 12 oz of this everyday awhile back and had hospitalmaxx and be ivcel)


ACTIVITY:
- Avg 10-20k steps daily
- SPRINT 5-10 sets, 15-30 sec (3-5 X weekly) BOOST IGF-1
-SPLIT
- Push (a)
- Benchpress (4x4-6) (Strength oriented)
- Lateral raise (4x7-12) (end w/ dropset)
- Pull
- Reeves deadlift (4x6-10)
- barbell row (4x10-15)
- bicep thing idk yet
- Farmers walk (dropset)
Rest
- Push (b)
- bench press (5x8-13) (Hypertrophy oriented)
- Lateral raise (4x7-12) (end w/ dropset)
- Pull
- T-bar rows (6x10-16)
- pullup dropset (maybe)
- bicep thing idk yet
Rest


HAIR:
I do have a bald gene in my family so I am trying to prevent it
- 1.00 M derma roller for hairline 1-2x weekly (morning)
- vertically roll 6 times + horizontally roll 6 times
- rinse with warm water
- soak roller in 70% isopropyl alcohol 1-2 week
- topical 5% rogain minoxidil (night)
- niacin kentozocale shampoo 1%
- 1-2x weekly
- microfiber towel
Post cycle I will be getting on finasteride or dut or oral minoxidil. m not doing this on cycle as I have heard anecdotes of fin making e2 sides more difficult to manage. As it is my first cycle and it is relatively low in terms of affects on DHT and thus hairloss, i think i will be fine until after.


EYEBROWS:
- .5 mm derma roller for brow
(Routine, morning, 5-6 weekly)
- vertically + horizontal roll 6 times
- soak in 70% isopropyl 1-2x a week
- apply topical minoxidil for brow thickness
(Routine, nightly)
- apply quitip with minoxidil and brush inwards


TEETH:
- Crest teeth whitener
(5-6 times per week)
- cut strips in half, one strip can be used for top and bottom of teeth
- leave in for 25-30 minutes
- i saw no results with hydrogen peroxide except my mouth fucking stinging
- I will consider brushing every few days
SKIN:
  • La roche pussy mostuizur + sunscreen
    • When i run out of this im going to get a PA+++ or wtver
  • Retinol at night


(COPE) THINGS I WILL BE TRYING:
  • 1-2X A WEEK I WILL BE SPIKING INSULIN W CARBS TO PROMOTE IGF-1 (this might be cope idek)
    • Sprint then eat a a ton ton of fruit, then sprint more (if i can)
  • Massage gun for bonesmashing CHIN and zygomatic process (NOT UNDER EYE or SIDE OF HEAD) i think this is cope, but w a masssage gun + test + absorbption of dietary calcium it MIGHT have an effect.
  • ??? any suggestions ???


Halo:
chadlite coloring w my eyes
argueabely hair
side profile.

Falios/problems:
Narrow lower third. (worse in some other pics)
Somewhat recessed in side profile
Low Bonemass
Teeth are not optimal (yellowish + not super straight, but getting them white will make them way more passable)
Physique is horrible






nga what 1200 calories is wild, but good shit
 
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before vs after is insane
 
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explain why. no one is justified by just saying “low iq”, if u did that in response to an academic paper proposing something u would be laughed at
this is not an academic paper blud 🙏😭

but here are things i immediately see problems with that i can be bothered to correct

1. you seem to have no ancillaries while on cycle
2. use hgh instead of shitty mk677
3. why are you using 4000mg L-Carnitine? only possible explanation is that you are taking orally which is stupid when you can just inject 500mg
4. you are not training anywhere near enough
5. get a microneedling pen, never ever dermaroll. use the pen at 1.5mm on scalp
6. teeth whitening 5-6 times per week is a good way to melt your enamel
7. "i will consider brushing every few days" what kind of subhuman are you? brush twice a day retard
8. dont use that bullshit "skincare" unless you wanna make your skin worse
9. "1-2x a week i will be spiking insulin w carbs" no retard you will be doing that every day because thats how carbs work
10. bonesmashing with a massage gun :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:
11. your current "progress" pictures (i dont even know what theyre supposed to be showing progress of) are clearly you just clenching your jaw and pursing your lips like a faggot jfl
 
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this is not an academic paper blud 🙏😭

but here are things i immediately see problems with that i can be bothered to correct

1. you seem to have no ancillaries while on cycle
2. use hgh instead of shitty mk677
3. why are you using 4000mg L-Carnitine? only possible explanation is that you are taking orally which is stupid when you can just inject 500mg
4. you are not training anywhere near enough
5. get a microneedling pen, never ever dermaroll. use the pen at 1.5mm on scalp
6. teeth whitening 5-6 times per week is a good way to melt your enamel
7. "i will consider brushing every few days" what kind of subhuman are you? brush twice a day retard
8. dont use that bullshit "skincare" unless you wanna make your skin worse
9. "1-2x a week i will be spiking insulin w carbs" no retard you will be doing that every day because thats how carbs work
10. bonesmashing with a massage gun :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:
11. your current "progress" pictures (i dont even know what theyre supposed to be showing progress of) are clearly you just clenching your jaw and pursing your lips like a faggot jfl
1. i’ll look into tudca and nac
2. too poor for HGH it’s fucking expensive as fuck to get real HGH and i’m not even dead set on MK im probably not even using it.
3. i am taking it orally. it is hard to source properly dosed injectable L-carnitine. injecting would be more optimal but getting 500mg l carinitine from injections is difficult with current dosages available. 4000mg orally. will offset what isn’t absorbed due to oral intake.
4. i know volume isn’t enough, i was hoping people would suggest excersizes.
5. fair enough, for brows i don’t think it matters as brows will cover it, but for hairline sure 1.5 mm on scalp is a bad idea.
6. okay then tell me that jfl i make one mistake
7. bro this was a joke retard, obviously i’m going to fucking brush. i put that there cuz that’s obvious as fuck and in juxtaposition to this teeth whitening routine i thought it was funny.
8. it’s fucking sunscreen and a mostiuzer retard, not a 10 step skincare routine.
9. alright fair enough i don’t know how it works necessarily, in my head more carbs = higher spike = more igf-1 but that could be low iq, did not look into a ton.
10. who knows i said it was probably cope
11. you can see clear forward growth in the first picture when compared to my currents. yes i was clenching my jaw to show progress of my masseter not to fucking just be a faggot. who gives a fuck if i look like a faggot

even tho u will just call me low iq, i appreciate you pointing out what you saw wrong with it. trying to learn and improve not argue
 
nice glow up bhai, keep us posted after cycle pls
 
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Useful Stats before I started preparation:
  • 18 yr 2 months
  • 5’11, 180 cm unfrauded
  • 183 lbs 21-24% BF
  • Bidelt like 18.9 inches
  • Bench 170 LBs x 5
  • Squat idgaf deadlift idgaf


Stats after preparation for cycle (ideally)
  • 152-162 LBS 12-15%
    • starvemaxxing/leanmaxxing obvi,
      • Sprint routine 4-6 times a week
      • Walk 10-30 k steps daily
    • Eat around 1000-1200 calories of chicken breast/eggs daily
      • On days i am vry busy I will not eat (1-2 days a week)
  • DAILY DEFICIT: 2000-3000 cal
    • 24% - 12% = 12%... .12% x 183 (bodyweight) = 21.96 x 3500 (1lb fat) = 76.8k cal defecit. Assuming an avg defecit of 2500 daily, this will take ~30 days (76.8 cal /2500cal def)
      • I am a week into this already and im at 174 (mostly glycogen, water etc.)


SUPPLEMENTS/CYCLE:
- 500 MG Testosterone E, Cycle 14-17.5 weeks, with daily injection. alternate left quad, right quad, subq. DOSAGE: 71 mg or .33 ml daily +
- Arimidex for AI (less harsh on hair) (not daily obvi, as needed)
- HCG for post cycle
- a cruise on 100-200 mg weekly after depending on levels (I have this prescribed medically for hypogonadism which i actually had/have)
- (maybe a sarm like MK677 or ideally CJC for IGF-1 and bone development, cant find good CJC source tho and mk is iffy)
- Creatine monohydrate 5G
- Vit D 10k IU w K2 (MK7)
- L Carnitine megadose 4,000 MG (potentially increases androgen receptor sensitivty)
- astaxanthin 12mg
- multi vit
- potassium sup for regulating 3:1-5:1 ratio as needed


DIET
  • FOCUSES: BORON, DIETARY CALCIUM, PHOSPHORUS, MAGNESIUM
  • CURRENT MANTIENCE: ROUGHLY 2.8-3.1 K.
- 3400-3700 cal
- MEAL 1
Beef tallow (10g)
8 eggs
- MEAL 2
avocado (200g)
85/15 groundbeef (250g)
- MEAL 3
Sweet potato (300g)
85/15 groundbeef (250g)
- MEAL 4
Chicken thigh (500g)
- PREWORKOUT MEAL
2 Kiwi (micronutrient)
subsitute blackberries
Substitute strawberry
Substitute a different fucking berry RETARD
  • OTHER THINGS I WILL BE EATING REGULARLY (but not on calculated into regular diet as of right now due to slightly less frequency, 2-5 days per week)
More avocado + natural honey for (boron)
dark chocolate mayb
Colostrum (diatery calcium, raw milk sub)
Unsalted grassfed butter
Goat fat from butcher (if i can source)
At times i will probably be eating other natural foods, but this all main stuff
gut foods (have this 2-7x weekly)
- kefir grains
- Saurorkrout
- kombucha

Cal for diet above: 3650 -- specific alterations will be made depending on availability of food, digestion, etc. This is just my 'defualt' diet.
Meats will be occasionally substituted with salmon/chicken thigh/chicken breast/steak/, beef liver/other fish (16oz liver weekly max, I got bad vitamin toxcitiy from eating 12 oz of this everyday awhile back and had hospitalmaxx and be ivcel)


ACTIVITY:
- Avg 10-20k steps daily
- SPRINT 5-10 sets, 15-30 sec (3-5 X weekly) BOOST IGF-1
-SPLIT
- Push (a)
- Benchpress (4x4-6) (Strength oriented)
- Lateral raise (4x7-12) (end w/ dropset)
- Pull
- Reeves deadlift (4x6-10)
- barbell row (4x10-15)
- bicep thing idk yet
- Farmers walk (dropset)
Rest
- Push (b)
- bench press (5x8-13) (Hypertrophy oriented)
- Lateral raise (4x7-12) (end w/ dropset)
- Pull
- T-bar rows (6x10-16)
- pullup dropset (maybe)
- bicep thing idk yet
Rest


HAIR:
I do have a bald gene in my family so I am trying to prevent it
- 1.00 M derma roller for hairline 1-2x weekly (morning)
- vertically roll 6 times + horizontally roll 6 times
- rinse with warm water
- soak roller in 70% isopropyl alcohol 1-2 week
- topical 5% rogain minoxidil (night)
- niacin kentozocale shampoo 1%
- 1-2x weekly
- microfiber towel
Post cycle I will be getting on finasteride or dut or oral minoxidil. m not doing this on cycle as I have heard anecdotes of fin making e2 sides more difficult to manage. As it is my first cycle and it is relatively low in terms of affects on DHT and thus hairloss, i think i will be fine until after.


EYEBROWS:
- .5 mm derma roller for brow
(Routine, morning, 5-6 weekly)
- vertically + horizontal roll 6 times
- soak in 70% isopropyl 1-2x a week
- apply topical minoxidil for brow thickness
(Routine, nightly)
- apply quitip with minoxidil and brush inwards


TEETH:
- Crest teeth whitener
(5-6 times per week)
- cut strips in half, one strip can be used for top and bottom of teeth
- leave in for 25-30 minutes
- i saw no results with hydrogen peroxide except my mouth fucking stinging
- I will consider brushing every few days
SKIN:
  • La roche pussy mostuizur + sunscreen
    • When i run out of this im going to get a PA+++ or wtver
  • Retinol at night


(COPE) THINGS I WILL BE TRYING:
  • 1-2X A WEEK I WILL BE SPIKING INSULIN W CARBS TO PROMOTE IGF-1 (this might be cope idek)
    • Sprint then eat a a ton ton of fruit, then sprint more (if i can)
  • Massage gun for bonesmashing CHIN and zygomatic process (NOT UNDER EYE or SIDE OF HEAD) i think this is cope, but w a masssage gun + test + absorbption of dietary calcium it MIGHT have an effect.
  • ??? any suggestions ???


Halo:
chadlite coloring w my eyes
argueabely hair
side profile.

Falios/problems:
Narrow lower third. (worse in some other pics)
Somewhat recessed in side profile
Low Bonemass
Teeth are not optimal (yellowish + not super straight, but getting them white will make them way more passable)
Physique is horrible






Chad side profile, you can ascend hard, gl bro:feelshehe:
 
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Alar base width matches ICD which is good, PFL is great as well, eyebrows could be stronger in the middle but are okay. I think major failo face-wise is lip width. It would be past the intra-iris width. You could try hardstretching :lul: - I have an idea that mouth stretching with a device while sleeping may be effective
 
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Chad side profile, you can ascend hard, gl bro:feelshehe:
thank you very much
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Alar base width matches ICD which is good, PFL is great as well, eyebrows could be stronger in the middle but are okay. I think major failo face-wise is lip width. It would be past the intra-iris width. You could try hardstretching :lul: - I have an idea that mouth stretching with a device while sleeping may be effective
yeah my lips are a bigger problem then i realized… one thing of note is i have taken horrible care of my lips. people always tell me they are chapped as fuck and to get chap stick. this won’t fix width but if i start doing that + hardstretching i might be able to make it less of a falio.

also thank you for analyzing bhai
 
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You have good base ngl would be a slayer in my school gl bro plan seems solid
 
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