Coping w philtrum of death

[plotkun]

I have a philtrum of death + short wide nose + mesolabial folds combo all caused by an overdeveloped maxilla

My midface is lifted + overly forward grown which makes the nose appear shorter and wider from the front and lengthens the philtrum

A good example of that would be hexum/dexter/dinklage midface (in their cases its less severe and they are chads)

There are some fixes like lip lift or nosejob neither of which fix the actual issue and age badly.

Im trying to cope with the fact all members of my family have it and that my mom was offered modeling contracts twice in her youth despite it but than I remeber she has a better jaw, zygos and nose then me so it was probably just have everything else theory

Any softmaxxes/hardmaxxes that age well and dont require me to undergo lefort 1? I'm not rich or brave enough for this.

 

[plotkun]

Also no mustache, it doesn't suit me

 

[maxx92765]

I have a philtrum of death + short wide nose + mesolabial folds combo all caused by an overdeveloped maxilla

My midface is lifted + overly forward grown which makes the nose appear shorter and wider from the front and lengthens the philtrum

A good example of that would be hexum/dexter/dinklage midface (in their cases its less severe and they are chads)

There are some fixes like lip lift or nosejob neither of which fix the actual issue and age badly.

Im trying to cope with the fact all members of my family have it and that my mom was offered modeling contracts twice in her youth despite it but than I remeber she has a better jaw, zygos and nose then me so it was probably just have everything else theory

Any softmaxxes/hardmaxxes that age well and dont require me to undergo lefort 1? I'm not rich or brave enough for this.

you say your midface is overly grown
thats not likely. whats More likely is if your brow ridge is recessed. send pic

 

[optimisticzoomer]

and they are chads

 

[plotkun]

you say your midface is overly grown
thats not likely. whats More likely is if your brow ridge is recessed. send pic

Okay, 1 from the front, 1 from the side, 1 from 3/4 and one anglefraud cause id feel too bad only showing the ugly ones, here u go

https://unsee.cc/album#8HX403ZUnrOE

 

[pentamogged9000]

i have exact same problem, slight maxillary prognathism/incisors flaring to the point where i have an over projected/concave philtrum

i have tried to look a little bit online and there is some orthodontic work you can find, just look online

and growing chin/lower third can help a small amount

whats More likely is if your brow ridge is recessed

if he is right and his midface is overdeveloped (probably is since he says nasolabial folds), then adding mass to brow ridge can help a lot, but it might not be recessed

 

[plotkun]

i have exact same problem, slight maxillary prognathism/incisors flaring to the point where i have an over projected/concave philtrum

i have tried to look a little bit online and there is some orthodontic work you can find, just look online

and growing chin/lower third can help a small amount

if he is right and his midface is overdeveloped (probably is since he says nasolabial folds), then adding mass to brow ridge can help a lot, but it might not be recessed

My browridge is already very prominent

 

[pentamogged9000]

yeah you would benefit a lot from bsso, or genioplasty

 

[pentamogged9000]

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hahahahahahah

i think he just meant hexum

 

[plotkun]

hahahahahahah

i think he just meant hexum

Hexum is chad, dexter is cl, peter is htn

 

[pentamogged9000]

peter is htn

nigga what?

dexter is cl

ltn, maybe lmtn in some of his better pictures

 

[plotkun]

i have exact same problem, slight maxillary prognathism

maxillary prognathism... thx a lot now i know where to start

 

[pentamogged9000]

mtn in the deepest murkiest depths of mumbai

 

[plotkun]

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nigga what?

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ltn, maybe lmtn in some of his better pictures

He has a goof face for his age.

guys here compare 40 year olds with 18 y o prettyboys its retartded

 

[plotkun]

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mtn in the deepest murkiest depths of mumbai

*in ingvar kruegers school

 

[plotkun]

Ok i just went down the hole and discovered copefuel.

meeks, chico and arguably even jordan have it to some degree (w/out long philtrum but let me cope pls)

 

[Rolling8scones]

are you white? might be part of your pheno. i’m mixed and something like what you describe was passed down from my moms side

 

[plotkun]

are you white? might be part of your pheno. i’m mixed and something like what you describe was passed down from my moms side

No, im slavic with visible asianness

 

[Rolling8scones]

No, im slavic with visible asianness

my bad, i lump everyone not ethnic together. but like this photo pretty sure he’s like slavic or serbian or smt it was honestly pretty hard to nail it down when i was researching for this pheno

 

[plotkun]

my bad, i lump everyone not ethnic together. but like this photo pretty sure he’s like slavic or serbian or smt it was honestly pretty hard to nail it down when i was researching for this pheno

Yeah thats it

 

[Rolling8scones]

Yeah thats it

yeah i’m pretty sure it’s just a short nose more then anything, the common denominator between my family with varying amounts of maxillary development is that short nose. and we all had the same problem as babies when your maxilla should be perfectly positioned

 

[plotkun]

yeah i’m pretty sure it’s just a short nose more then anything, the common denominator between my family with varying amounts of maxillary development is that short nose. and we all had the same problem as babies when your maxilla should be perfectly positioned

Can i see ur face? Curious about how itd compare w mine. U can use unsee.cc

 

[Rolling8scones]

Can i see ur face? Curious about how itd compare w mine. U can use unsee.cc

i’m mixed with caribbean so idk how useful that would be tbh but my chin-philtrum ratio is like 1.8 ish

 

[svarddre]

Pm me photos you sound like you have my same problem

 

[King_Schnitzel]

Ok i just went down the hole and discovered copefuel.

meeks, chico and arguably even jordan have it to some degree (w/out long philtrum but let me cope pls)

Nigga provide your pics ur shit deleted itself in 1 hour cuz ur scared of whatever

 

[plotkun]

Pm me photos you sound like you have my same problem

Nigga provide your pics ur shit deleted itself in 1 hour cuz ur scared of whatever

Here u go https://unsee.cc/album#ntnMyLCXWuuC

Also pls no rate just problem related

 

[awok]

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True manlet

 

[plotkun]

i’m mixed with caribbean so idk how useful that would be tbh but my chin-philtrum ratio is like 1.8 ish

Mines like 1.5

 

[Rolling8scones]

Mines like 1.5

how do you measure yours? i see 2 diff ways people will do it

 

[plotkun]

how do you measure yours? i see 2 diff ways people will do it

From the upper part of the lip (peaks) to the bottom of the nose

 

[Rolling8scones]

From the upper part of the lip (peaks) to the bottom of the nose

ok yeah so we’re doing it the same. i cope with a badly grown baby ass goatee. even stubble helps so much i find. do you know the physical mm lenghts of it he chin to philtrum? bc based on that i think you could fix it either with a genio or some weird rhino for the columbella

 

[plotkun]

ok yeah so we’re doing it the same. i cope with a badly grown baby ass goatee. even stubble helps so much i find. do you know the physical mm lenghts of it he chin to philtrum? bc based on that i think you could fix it either with a genio or some weird rhino for the columbella

Dont know but yeah im also permastubbling for this reason since goatee makes me look 30. Thx btw

 

[plotkun]

ok yeah so we’re doing it the same. i cope with a badly grown baby ass goatee. even stubble helps so much i find. do you know the physical mm lenghts of it he chin to philtrum? bc based on that i think you could fix it either with a genio or some weird rhino for the columbella

Been thinking about nose piercing btw

 

[Rolling8scones]

Been thinking about nose piercing btw

let me know how that goes if you do get it itve been considering since i’m in the kinda more arty/alt side of the dating pool. i’ve heard good things about it helping kind mask it

 

[plotkun]

i’m in the kinda more arty/alt side of the dating pool.

Damn brother! Are we the same person?

 

[plotkun]

let me know how that goes if you do get it itve been considering since i’m in the kinda more arty/alt side of the dating pool. i’ve heard good things about it helping kind mask it

Actually might just buy a fake one to try it out. U could do the same

 

[Rolling8scones]

Actually might just buy a fake one to try it out. U could do the same

oh shit i knew they made fake earrings and other piercings. never occurred to me that they probably have something similar for septum aswell

 

[pentamogged9000]

i’m mixed with caribbean so idk how useful that would be tbh but my chin-philtrum ratio is like 1.8 ish

i'm same, around 3/8 caribbean. you sure you don't get it from your black side? because i might partially get it from my dad's side, they all have a similar midface to me

 

[Rolling8scones]

i'm same, around 3/8 caribbean. you sure you don't get it from your black side? because i might partially get it from my dad's side, they all have a similar midface to me

def my moms, dads family all have proper philtrum. lowkey bummed bc it seems like a dominant gene from moms (im the eldest across both sides and its present in every single one of my 4 aunts kids but non from my dads side) i’m guessing if you got it from your Caribbean side they prob mixed with someone that had it and it was handed down the generations

 

[plotkun]

def my moms, dads family all have proper philtrum. lowkey bummed bc it seems like a dominant gene from moms (im the eldest across both sides and its present in every single one of my 4 aunts kids but non from my dads side) i’m guessing if you got it from your Caribbean side they prob mixed with someone that had it and it was handed down the generations

My uncle is black btw might be sum idk

 

[pentamogged9000]

i’m guessing if you got it from your Caribbean side they prob mixed with someone that had it and it was handed down the generations

might be onto something actually, dad is a quarter white and i don't think my grandma who isn't fully black has it

 

[King_Schnitzel]

Here u go https://unsee.cc/album#ntnMyLCXWuuC

Also pls no rate just problem related

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[placedink]

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i think hes just insecure and doesnt want his photo on the internet ( no one cares)

 

[placedink]

actually provide a photo without this unsee bs if u want help

 

[plotkun]

actually provide a photo without this unsee bs if u want help

i think hes just insecure and doesnt want his photo on the internet ( no one cares)

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Sorry guys.

Here u go again:

https://unsee.cc/album#FjrJXnQBbTj1

 

[King_Schnitzel]

Sorry guys.

Here u go again:

https://unsee.cc/album#FjrJXnQBbTj1

Philtrum is okay.
You look good overall.
No worries, the things are as they are.

 

[Davidproton]

Philtrum is okay.
You look good overall.
No worries, the things are as they are.

Just curious, when it comes to men's lip?
When is a lip lift an appropriate choice? What about a lip flip, botox injections, collumella fillers

 

[King_Schnitzel]

Just curious, when it comes to men's lip?
When is a lip lift an appropriate choice? What about a lip flip, botox injections, collumella fillers

No idea.
I'd say you don't really need it.

 

[plotkun]

Philtrum is okay.
You look good overall.
No worries, the things are as they are.

Too late im getting a septum

 

[plotkun]

Just curious, when it comes to men's lip?
When is a lip lift an appropriate choice? What about a lip flip, botox injections, collumella fillers

Depends on specific case but it can be useful if u have long p caused by thin lips