Could double jaw surgery help with eye area and negative orbital vector?

[mbi876]

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[Asspear]

A classic Lefort 1 and BSSO? Not really, no. That'd be in the realm of infraorbital implants and cantoplasties.

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

Midface augmentation might. Might even take some orbital rim implants if it's really bad, but I don't think I've seen a condition that bad.

 

[mbi876]

A classic Lefort 1 and BSSO? Not really, no. That'd be in the realm of infraorbital implants and cantoplasties.

But I guess it could camouflage the weak eye area right? Like an illusion

 

[geenk worg]

But I guess it could camouflage the weak eye area right? Like an illusion

No.

 

[mbi876]

No.

Ok but a bsso + lefort 1 would be very similar to a double jaw surgery/bimax right? Whats the differnce?

 

[geenk worg]

Ok but a bsso + lefort 1 would be very similar to a double jaw surgery/bimax right? Whats the differnce?

It's the same thing.

 

[mbi876]

It's the same thing.

 

[mbi876]

It's the same thing.

I have heard the results can be disappointing in some cases though. You wouldnt worry ab that?

 

[Deleted member 1140]

it can help especially if u get SARPE before because of the increased cheekbone width

also if you got a recessed jaw its likely you got bad sleep which also affects the undereyes

 

[Asspear]

I have heard the results can be disappointing in some cases though. You wouldnt worry ab that?

Ok but a bsso + lefort 1 would be very similar to a double jaw surgery/bimax right? Whats the differnce?

Geenk worg is correct, a bimax/DJS typically means a Lefort 1 plus BSSO. See the attached image:

The cut along the upper jaw is the Lefort 1 osteotomy. The cut along the lower jaw is the Bilateral Sagittal Split Osteotomy (BSSO). When people refer to bimax or double jaw surgery, this is generally what they are referring to. Sometimes people may be referring to a Lefort 2 or 3 in addition to a BSSO, but these are very rare and typically only performed on the most deformed patients. I would like to especially draw your attention to where the cut is performed, where you will notice that the infraorbital rim is not being touched by the Lefort 1.

In regards to results being disappointing, that depends on a wide variety of factors. The answer is far, far more complicated than you might be initially assuming. Some questions to consider are who is the surgeon, what movements are planned for both the upper and lower jaw, is there any rotation, do you even need the surgery in the first place, etc. Before signing up to getting a bimax, you need to really consider what are the issues you want addressed, and if a bimax would actually help those issues. Given that you're asking about its relation to your orbital vector, you may want to do more research into what areas you actually want corrected, and what an ideal correction would look like.

 

[lookmaxxer998]

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Double jaw surgery refers to a BSSO (Bilateral Sagital Split Osteotomy), which addresses the lower jaw/mandible combined with a Le fort surgery which addresses the upper jaw/maxilla. Typically, Le fort 1 is performed where only the lower part of the maxilla is moved, see the diagram above my post from another poster to understand what is moved or google what Le fort 1 moves. There are also other Le fort cuts such as Le fort 2 and 3 and modified versions of these cuts which may address moving forward the mid face. For example, a Le fort 2 quadrangular osteotomy moves the lower part of the maxilla and the under eye region as well- however, this type of upper jaw surgery is rarely performed for purely cosmetic reasons. Alternatively, one can undergo the typical le fort 1 surgery ( only move the lower maxilla) and use infraorbital rim implants (under eye implants) to address the negative orbital vector- this is the safest and therefore most common route.

 

[Deleted member 1140]

Geenk worg is correct, a bimax/DJS typically means a Lefort 1 plus BSSO. See the attached image:

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The cut along the upper jaw is the Lefort 1 osteotomy. The cut along the lower jaw is the Bilateral Sagittal Split Osteotomy (BSSO). When people refer to bimax or double jaw surgery, this is generally what they are referring to. Sometimes people may be referring to a Lefort 2 or 3 in addition to a BSSO, but these are very rare and typically only performed on the most deformed patients. I would like to especially draw your attention to where the cut is performed, where you will notice that the infraorbital rim is not being touched by the Lefort 1.

In regards to results being disappointing, that depends on a wide variety of factors. The answer is far, far more complicated than you might be initially assuming. Some questions to consider are who is the surgeon, what movements are planned for both the upper and lower jaw, is there any rotation, do you even need the surgery in the first place, etc. Before signing up to getting a bimax, you need to really consider what are the issues you want addressed, and if a bimax would actually help those issues. Given that you're asking about its relation to your orbital vector, you may want to do more research into what areas you actually want corrected, and what an ideal correction would look like.

+ also keep in mind like 40% of all bimax surgeries have complications like permanent numbness, infections, undesired look changes etc.

 

[try2beme]

No it doesn’t. The only way it lf1 could if is if its aided by implants under the eyes to aid the unnatural forward growth in the jaws chin and maxilla

 

[mbi876]

+ also keep in mind like 40% of all bimax surgeries have complications like permanent numbness, infections, undesired look changes etc.

Where do you get 40% from?

 

[mbi876]

A classic Lefort 1 and BSSO? Not really, no. That'd be in the realm of infraorbital implants and cantoplasties.

Does the avarage plastic surgeon do that though?

 

[Asspear]

Does the avarage plastic surgeon do that though?

Bimaxes are common for maxillofacial surgeons - there are lots of plastic surgeons discussed on this forum who are also maxfacs (i.e. Pagnoni), but not every single one.

If you're referring to if infraorbital implants are often done by average plastic surgeons, not really, no. It's more specialized. If you're referring to canthoplasties, those are definitely more common for plastic surgeons but not every single one is going to be a specialist. I'd generally recommend going to a surgeon who specializes in the procedures you want to get as opposed to just going to your local surgeon simply because they are geographically close.

 

[chrishell]

No because the LeFort 1 generally does not move forward bone above around where your nasolabial folds are

It is true in some cases due to the unpredictable nature of soft tissue pulling the more projected jaw can improve your midface angle and orbital vector, giving the illusion of a stronger infraorbital area but this is but this effect is minor at most.

 

[NZb6Air]

Where do you get 40% from?

his nigger ass

 

[NZb6Air]

No because the LeFort 1 generally does not move forward bone above around where your nasolabial folds are

It is true in some cases due to the unpredictable nature of soft tissue pulling the more projected jaw can improve your midface angle and orbital vector, giving the illusion of a stronger infraorbital area but this is but this effect is minor at most.

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[chrishell]

are you an ai bot or a real person

Both are possible. There will be a grand reveal at 1,000 reps.

Cordially,
chrishell