Could infraorbital rim implants and cheekbone implants fraud a lefort 3?

[DaGullas]

When you have good occlusion.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

short answer: no

 

[Deleted member 4430]

it is what it is

 

[DaGullas]

short answer: no

Why not? What does the lefort 3 move besides that?

 

[Cares]

yeah it could if you have enough jaw width

 

[DaGullas]

yeah it could if you have enough jaw width

Ye i have it

 

[DaGullas]

yeah it could if you have enough jaw width

I need to visit taban to have infraorbital rim and almond eye surgery. I think i dont need the cheekbones

 

[Cares]

Ye i have it

You are good then

 

[Boldandbeautiful]

Theoretically yes. In practice, results have been subpar. Look at the shape of a silicon infraorbital implant, then imagine an imperfect placement. It lends itself to roundness, though it WILL support the softtissue. If you nail both of these aspects, yes, you may get a good result.
Additionally the frontal process remains recessed, but I'm not sure if this would effect the harmony of the face. Its possible that it may contribute to a flat look.

 

[DaGullas]

Theoretically yes. In practice, results have been subpar. Look at the shape of a silicon infraorbital implant, then imagine an imperfect placement. It lends itself to roundness, though it WILL support the softtissue. If you nail both of these aspects, yes, you may get a good result.
Additionally the frontal process remains recessed, but I'm not sure if this would effect the harmony of the face. Its possible that it may contribute to a flat look.

I could pm you pics, i will get almond and infraorbital for sure. The cheekbone i think not

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Yes it can, absolutely. I would even say its superior, because Lefort 3 only brings your natural shape forward, custom implants can masculinise your shape and widen your FWHR - as well as giving you the forward growth that Lefort 3 gives.

 

[DaGullas]

Yes it can, absolutely. I would even say its superior, because Lefort 3 only brings your natural shape forward, custom implants can masculinise your shape and widen your FWHR - as well as giving you the forward growth that Lefort 3 gives.

I will for sure get infraorbital and almond eye. After that i will see if i need cheekbone as well

 

[Deleted member 4797]

I will for sure get infraorbital and almond eye. After that i will see if i need cheekbone as well

I didn't know they could do the infraorbital and zygo implants separately, I've always seen 1 piece implants that cover both these areas.

 

[DaGullas]

I didn't know they could do the infraorbital and zygo implants separately, I've always seen 1 piece implants that cover both these areas.

Serious? Its because im visiting Taban, i think he only does the infraorbital no?

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Theoretically yes. In practice, results have been subpar. Look at the shape of a silicon infraorbital implant, then imagine an imperfect placement. It lends itself to roundness, though it WILL support the softtissue. If you nail both of these aspects, yes, you may get a good result.
Additionally the frontal process remains recessed, but I'm not sure if this would effect the harmony of the face. Its possible that it may contribute to a flat look.

You can get this area filled, saw an Eppley custom implant that had this for a guy who did Lefort 1and wanted implant to balance his top half of face.

Then again, do you think its ideal to have this area filled? Europeans have this area empty compared to Africans, and they are more attractive than Africans, so maybe its not the best to have that area full (just the wide parts of zygo).

David Gandy has this part empty, but with big forward grown zygos on the outside parts, IMO it looks better.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Serious? Its because im visiting Taban, i think he only does the infraorbital no?

Yes, you better ask him if it will still be possible to augment the zygo's with an implant when you already have an infraorbital implant in place, cus usually custom zygo implants are like this, covering both areas with 1 piece

 

[DaGullas]

Yes, you better ask him if it will still be possible to augment the zygo's with an implant when you already have an infraorbital implant in place, cus usually custom zygo implants are like this, covering both areas with 1 piece

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I will for sure get almond eye, maybe ur right and this part of the infraorbital shouldnt be filled... zygos are more important for us europeans right?

 

[Copemaxxing]

Yes.

get mse+facemask before and then bimax woth forward advanchement after that get your eye surgery and cheekbones so it looks balanced. Unironically will boost 2.5psl

 

[DaGullas]

Yes.

get mse+facemask before and then bimax woth forward advanchement after that get your eye surgery and cheekbones so it looks balanced. Unironically will boost 2.5psl

Mse and fm will ruin my occlusion, i cant take that much time. My teeth are very good. I think almond eye will already boost me a lot, my jaw is nice and i chewmaxx which will get her even better. Bimax moves a part of the face in which i dont need. I need the upper part to move(zygos and infraorbital) which would be a lefort 3 but nobody would do it on me. So zygo implant/ or infraorbital? and almond eye should be good no?

 

[Copemaxxing]

Mse and fm will ruin my occlusion, i cant take that much time. My teeth are very good. I think almond eye will already boost me a lot, my jaw is nice and i chewmaxx which will get her even better. Bimax moves a part of the face in which i dont need. I need the upper part to move(zygos and infraorbital) which would be a lefort 3 but nobody would do it on me. So zygo implant/ or infraorbital? and almond eye should be good no?

Why would mse and fm ruin your occlusion? As far as I know the mandible will come forward too. But if your lower maxilla is good than zygo implants ( Take the sharp custom ones) and infras should do a good job. Browridge implant too fraud a lefort 3 too

 

[DaGullas]

Why would mse and fm ruin your occlusion? As far as I know the mandible will come forward too. But if your lower maxilla is good than zygo implants ( Take the sharp custom ones) and infras should do a good job. Browridge implant too fraud a lefort 3 too

Could u get me a link of nice before afters and something?

 

[Copemaxxing]

Could u get me a link of nice before afters and something?

 

[DaGullas]

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What did she have

 

[Deleted member 5385]

Can't be compared
Bone>>>>>>> silicon

 

[Gaia262]

When you have good occlusion.

@aut0phobic

I disagree, lefort 1 + infraorbital-malar implants are going to be the closest thing to getting a lefort 3 without actually getting a lefort 3.

is it a substitute No, but is it an adequate fraud when factoring risks, costs etc I would say yes.

Bimax + Almond Eye will ascend anyones face tbh.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Why not? What does the lefort 3 move besides that?

im assuming your confusing MLF3 with LF3.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

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im assuming your confusing MLF3 with LF3.

Assuming you DID mean MLF3, then the answer is probably more complicated and dependent on the patient's bone mass.

 

[Boldandbeautiful]

@aut0phobic

I disagree, lefort 1 + infraorbital-malar implants are going to be the closest thing to getting a lefort 3 without actually getting a lefort 3.

is it a substitute No, but is it an adequate fraud when factoring risks, costs etc I would say yes.

Bimax + Almond Eye will ascend anyones face tbh.

I think most people on this forum have delusions of what bimax can achieve. If ur not handsome before bimax, you wont be handsome after. If you look ok before bimax, you might look worse after. Study what you NEED BEFORE SURGERY!

Eyes, Nose, lips and hair. Play with these ratios if you wish to become handsome. Bimax will make you normal not supernormal in MOST cases.

 

[Gaia262]

I think most people on this forum have delusions of what bimax can achieve. If ur not handsome before bimax, you wont be handsome after. If you look ok before bimax, you might look worse after. Study what you NEED BEFORE SURGERY!

Dude, the bimax is one the few procedures that actually make a difference to your looks. I can see you are new as you use the word "handsome" so not going to roast you study the archives on here especially around end of 2019.

 

[Boldandbeautiful]

Soft tissue and its relationships determine attractiveness in MY opinion. The first case the nose was altered into a more balanced relationship TO the eyes, lips and chin(also altered). The surgeon artistically sculpted the ratios to create a balanced aesthetic.

The third case increasing the lower third of the face balanced already handsome eyes and relaxed the muscles on the lips.

The second case due to lack of a frontal review is useless to discuss.

Balance the features. If Bimax can create the balnce then it should be undertaken. A Handful of exceptional results does not imply that the procedure should be advised for everyone.

 

[Darkstrand]

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Is that a brow ridge implant?

 

[Deleted member 4797]

I will for sure get almond eye, maybe ur right and this part of the infraorbital shouldnt be filled... zygos are more important for us europeans right?

Yeah you want the upper infraorbital rim filled of course, but around the nose left empty IMO (for the White European look anyway)

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Soft tissue and its relationships determine attractiveness in MY opinion. The first case the nose was altered into a more balanced relationship TO the eyes, lips and chin(also altered). The surgeon artistically sculpted the ratios to create a balanced aesthetic.

The third case increasing the lower third of the face balanced already handsome eyes and relaxed the muscles on the lips.

The second case due to lack of a frontal review is useless to discuss.

Balance the features. If Bimax can create the balnce then it should be undertaken. A Handful of exceptional results does not imply that the procedure should be advised for everyone.

This is actually quite true and well said. Lots of people could improve with bimax, but many people will also not need it and potentially look worse if they get it, every case is unique.

 

[zq336]

If you do it on top of a Lefort 1, then yes. The implant by itself wouldn't be enough to mimic a Lefort 3.

Plastic Surgery Case Study - Custom Infraorbital-Maxillary-Malar Implant as Secondary Midface Augmentation After A LeFort I Osteotomy - Explore Plastic Surgery

A custom infrorbital-maxllary-malar implant completes the upper midface augmentation that complements a previoulsy performed LeFort I osteotomy.

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[DaGullas]

If you do it on top of a Lefort 1, then yes. The implant by itself wouldn't be enough to mimic a Lefort 3.

Plastic Surgery Case Study - Custom Infraorbital-Maxillary-Malar Implant as Secondary Midface Augmentation After A LeFort I Osteotomy - Explore Plastic Surgery

A custom infrorbital-maxllary-malar implant completes the upper midface augmentation that complements a previoulsy performed LeFort I osteotomy.

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But i dont need to move that part. Only the upper

 

[zq336]

But i dont need to move that part. Only the upper

Then you don't need a Lefort at all, just get an implant.

 

[DaGullas]

Ye i need almond eye and zygo implant or infraorbital i dont know, @DatGuyYouLike seems to know which one is best

 

[Looksmax305]

Implants will never as good as actual bone

 

[DaGullas]

Implants will never as good as actual bone

Who cares? People from here will never get a lefort 3. Atleast almond eye i will get. The others i will see

 

[Deleted member 5292]

I could pm you pics, i will get almond and infraorbital for sure. The cheekbone i think not

Can you pm your pics if you do it?

 

[DaGullas]

Can you pm your pics if you do it?

Yep bro, but im still saving money for it, did a rhino 2 months ago. want to ascend quickly

 

[Looksmax305]

Who cares? People from here will never get a lefort 3. Atleast almond eye i will get. The others i will see

I agree with any improvement is worth is but implants can look uncanny cus if you have reccession in one part of ur face it’s very likely your entire face has recession and the implant will look out of place

 

[DaGullas]

I agree with any improvement is worth is but implants can look uncanny cus if you have reccession in one part of ur face it’s very likely your entire face has recession and the implant will look out of place

Bro my zygos are good and even my infraorbital is nothing special, my occlusion is good, i just need almond eye to be fair

 

[Boldandbeautiful]

Implants will never as good as actual bone

Implants will never as good as artificially advanced bone, but they look better than obviously recessed orbits when done right. Summon the autist @SurgerySoon as an example.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Ye i need almond eye and zygo implant or infraorbital i dont know, @DatGuyYouLike seems to know which one is best

PM me pics brother, I will help, and keep photos private of course.

 

[Deleted member 5694]

It’s as close as you’ll get anyway when done alongside lefort 1. You won’t get lefort 3 anyway so this is your best bet

 

[DaGullas]

It’s as close as you’ll get anyway when done alongside lefort 1. You won’t get lefort 3 anyway so this is your best bet

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