Could ultrasound increase height by boosting growth plate activity?

[pharmatropics]

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This thread is a deep dive about ultrasound being used as stimulation for localized bone growth. This thread will be more about height, but I'm interested to find out if it also stimulates facial / clavicular bone growth in the future as well.

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A specific kind of ultrasound, LIPUS (Low-Intensity Pulsed Ultrasound) is commonly used in orthopedics to accelerate the healing of fractures. It works by stimulating bone tissue through sound (vibration) to trigger mechanical stimulation at the cellular level. This therefore increases osteoblast activity, which releases localized growth factor hormones (IGF-1 & VEGF).

Theoretically speaking this could be used universally on all hard tissues, including growth plates.

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What initially piqued my interest in local IGF-1 stimulation, was the fact that multiple studies suggest that the majority of longitudinal bone growth is driven by local IGF-1 within the growth plate itself, and that circulating IGF-1 doesn't matter as much. Kinda made me sad thinking that all of my suspicious, totally not somatropin shipments from China might have been cope.

• (1993, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences) showed that mice with near-zero IGF-1 in their bloodstreams still maintained near-normal growth as long as the growth plate itself was producing IGF-1 locally
  
  
• (2004, Journal of Bone and Mineral Research) found that even when systemic IGF-1 levels were normal, growth failed if growth plates couldn’t receive signals due to missing IGF-1 receptors
  
  
• (2009, Endocrine Reviews) estimated that around 70–80% of bone growth effects come from local IGF-1 signaling, not systemic hormones.
  

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Back to ultrasound therapy, LIPUS has already been tested on animal growth plates.

Rabbits and rodent trials reported:

• Increased thickness in the proliferative zone of the physis
• Higher chondrocyte division rate
• More organized hypertrophic cartilage columns
• Slight increases in longitudinal bone growth when compared to untreated control limbs
  

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If translated to humans, the most effective targets would be:

• Distal Femur, right above the knee, ~70% of naturally occuring femur growth
• Proximal Tibia, just below the knee, ~ 55% of naturally occuring tibia growth
  

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Conclusion:

LIPUS shows clear stimulatory effects on bone and cartilage in medical contexts.

You can get an EXOGEN LIPUS device, or be like me and try to build your own rig. EXOGEN, the company, they're fucking scammers because they limit the amount of times you can use their device. I think the software deletes itself after 150 uses.

There will be more details about the rig I'm building soon, which will have more than one probe to simulate all my bones at the same time. I'm interested to see if the same idea applies to clavicles and facial bones, because I would blast the fuck out of them if the theory held true.

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Note: I just got accepted to org, I hope this is a good rookie debut. I've been keeping this one in the chamber for a while now because org takes a long ass time to accept new people

 

[Mayosub3]

I though this thread was pure copium but it seems logical

 

[pharmatropics]

I though this thread was pure copium but it seems logical

Thanks. Fortunately I'm not an iqlet unlike 90% of the truecel population on this website

 

[gigacumster3000]

listen up newfag, you really think ultrasound is gonna magically make your bones grow? get real already. height and facial structure are mostly determined by genetics and basic shit like puberty. LIPUS is used for healing broken bones, not growing new ones. if you want to improve your looks, hit the gym and eat a decent diet instead of wasting time on delusional copium threads like this one. it's pretty standard at this point that height and bone structure are mostly locked in by 18-20yo. do some research for once before posting basic shit like this.

 

[pharmatropics]

listen up newfag, you really think ultrasound is gonna magically make your bones grow? get real already. height and facial structure are mostly determined by genetics and basic shit like puberty. LIPUS is used for healing broken bones, not growing new ones. if you want to improve your looks, hit the gym and eat a decent diet instead of wasting time on delusional copium threads like this one. it's pretty standard at this point that height and bone structure are mostly locked in by 18-20yo. do some research for once before posting basic shit like this.

Who said I wasn’t near my peak height velocity? You staying as a manlet is not my problem, I have a long way to go buddy.

 

[pharmatropics]

bump

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

looks gpt with those bullet points, hope not

 

[pharmatropics]

looks gpt with those bullet points, hope not

You click the button that shows the bullet points to make a bullet point you idiot

Go run my work through an AI detector and lets see what it says. I spent too much time for you retards to say this shit

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

You click the button that shows the bullet points to make a bullet point you idiot

Go run my work through an AI detector and lets see what it says. I spent too much time for you retards to say this shit

why are you calling me an idiot and retard lol

 

[pharmatropics]

why are you calling me an idiot and retard lol

Did a few wittle words huwt your feewings?

 

[geloo]

Did a few wittle words huwt your feewings?

watch your mouth before the forum rapes you, nigga.

you’re a freshman and oooo- I love freshmen… watch your mouth…

 

[pharmatropics]

watch your mouth before the forum rapes you, nigga.

you’re a freshman and oooo- I love freshmen… watch your mouth…

Go in my butt instead

If you go hard enough that actually stimulates the osteoblasts in my upper femur which is lowkey heightmaxxing

 

[Copercel]

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This thread is a deep dive about ultrasound being used as stimulation for localized bone growth. This thread will be more about height, but I'm interested to find out if it also stimulates facial / clavicular bone growth in the future as well.

---

A specific kind of ultrasound, LIPUS (Low-Intensity Pulsed Ultrasound) is commonly used in orthopedics to accelerate the healing of fractures. It works by stimulating bone tissue through sound (vibration) to trigger mechanical stimulation at the cellular level. This therefore increases osteoblast activity, which releases localized growth factor hormones (IGF-1 & VEGF).

View attachment 4217357


Theoretically speaking this could be used universally on all hard tissues, including growth plates.

---

What initially piqued my interest in local IGF-1 stimulation, was the fact that multiple studies suggest that the majority of longitudinal bone growth is driven by local IGF-1 within the growth plate itself, and that circulating IGF-1 doesn't matter as much. Kinda made me sad thinking that all of my suspicious, totally not somatropin shipments from China might have been cope.

• (1993, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences) showed that mice with near-zero IGF-1 in their bloodstreams still maintained near-normal growth as long as the growth plate itself was producing IGF-1 locally
  
  
• (2004, Journal of Bone and Mineral Research) found that even when systemic IGF-1 levels were normal, growth failed if growth plates couldn’t receive signals due to missing IGF-1 receptors
  
  
• (2009, Endocrine Reviews) estimated that around 70–80% of bone growth effects come from local IGF-1 signaling, not systemic hormones.

---

Back to ultrasound therapy, LIPUS has already been tested on animal growth plates.

Rabbits and rodent trials reported:

• Increased thickness in the proliferative zone of the physis
• Higher chondrocyte division rate
• More organized hypertrophic cartilage columns
• Slight increases in longitudinal bone growth when compared to untreated control limbs

View attachment 4217495

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If translated to humans, the most effective targets would be:

• Distal Femur, right above the knee, ~70% of naturally occuring femur growth
• Proximal Tibia, just below the knee, ~ 55% of naturally occuring tibia growth

---

Conclusion:

LIPUS shows clear stimulatory effects on bone and cartilage in medical contexts.

View attachment 4217522

You can get an EXOGEN LIPUS device, or be like me and try to build your own rig. EXOGEN, the company, they're fucking scammers because they limit the amount of times you can use their device. I think the software deletes itself after 150 uses.

There will be more details about the rig I'm building soon, which will have more than one probe to simulate all my bones at the same time. I'm interested to see if the same idea applies to clavicles and facial bones, because I would blast the fuck out of them if the theory held true.

---

Note: I just got accepted to org, I hope this is a good rookie debut. I've been keeping this one in the chamber for a while now because org takes a long ass time to accept new people

 

[jeoyw9192]

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This thread is a deep dive about ultrasound being used as stimulation for localized bone growth. This thread will be more about height, but I'm interested to find out if it also stimulates facial / clavicular bone growth in the future as well.

---

A specific kind of ultrasound, LIPUS (Low-Intensity Pulsed Ultrasound) is commonly used in orthopedics to accelerate the healing of fractures. It works by stimulating bone tissue through sound (vibration) to trigger mechanical stimulation at the cellular level. This therefore increases osteoblast activity, which releases localized growth factor hormones (IGF-1 & VEGF).

View attachment 4217357


Theoretically speaking this could be used universally on all hard tissues, including growth plates.

---

What initially piqued my interest in local IGF-1 stimulation, was the fact that multiple studies suggest that the majority of longitudinal bone growth is driven by local IGF-1 within the growth plate itself, and that circulating IGF-1 doesn't matter as much. Kinda made me sad thinking that all of my suspicious, totally not somatropin shipments from China might have been cope.

• (1993, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences) showed that mice with near-zero IGF-1 in their bloodstreams still maintained near-normal growth as long as the growth plate itself was producing IGF-1 locally
  
  
• (2004, Journal of Bone and Mineral Research) found that even when systemic IGF-1 levels were normal, growth failed if growth plates couldn’t receive signals due to missing IGF-1 receptors
  
  
• (2009, Endocrine Reviews) estimated that around 70–80% of bone growth effects come from local IGF-1 signaling, not systemic hormones.

---

Back to ultrasound therapy, LIPUS has already been tested on animal growth plates.

Rabbits and rodent trials reported:

• Increased thickness in the proliferative zone of the physis
• Higher chondrocyte division rate
• More organized hypertrophic cartilage columns
• Slight increases in longitudinal bone growth when compared to untreated control limbs

View attachment 4217495

---

If translated to humans, the most effective targets would be:

• Distal Femur, right above the knee, ~70% of naturally occuring femur growth
• Proximal Tibia, just below the knee, ~ 55% of naturally occuring tibia growth

---

Conclusion:

LIPUS shows clear stimulatory effects on bone and cartilage in medical contexts.

View attachment 4217522

You can get an EXOGEN LIPUS device, or be like me and try to build your own rig. EXOGEN, the company, they're fucking scammers because they limit the amount of times you can use their device. I think the software deletes itself after 150 uses.

There will be more details about the rig I'm building soon, which will have more than one probe to simulate all my bones at the same time. I'm interested to see if the same idea applies to clavicles and facial bones, because I would blast the fuck out of them if the theory held true.

---

Note: I just got accepted to org, I hope this is a good rookie debut. I've been keeping this one in the chamber for a while now because org takes a long ass time to accept new people

How are u building ur own rig?

 

[pharmatropics]

How are u building ur own rig?

Planning to collaborate with manufacturers in china to add more probes and customize my device. I’ll likely pay around 600$ for it with my customized specs.

However, I will post a new thread soon about a therapy that is significantly more potent than this one. It carries real risks but promises better returns.

If you're like most people on this site who is over 18, you’d be much more interested in my next post. Follow me to keep up and DM me for any questions

 

[jeoyw9192]

Planning to collaborate with manufacturers in china to add more probes and customize my device. I’ll likely pay around 600$ for it with my customized specs.

However, I will post a new thread soon about a therapy that is significantly more potent than this one. It carries real risks but promises better returns.

If you're like most people on this site who is over 18, you’d be much more interested in my next post. Follow me to keep up and DM me for any questions

Very interesting just pmed you. So just one other question directly here, would you actually be planning to go through this? There have been some past threads on using vibration/LIPUS for potential facial bone growth, but there weren't any follow ups or any results posted (assuming since the LIPUS is hard to get and costly). Also there's the EMS machine which you might have heard of, theorizes to be useful particularly for the under eye region "lifting" it (applies around the malaria/zygomaticus iirc). Not sure what you think about this

 

[pharmatropics]

Very interesting just pmed you. So just one other question directly here, would you actually be planning to go through this? There have been some past threads on using vibration/LIPUS for potential facial bone growth, but there weren't any follow ups or any results posted (assuming since the LIPUS is hard to get and costly). Also there's the EMS machine which you might have heard of, theorizes to be useful particularly for the under eye region "lifting" it (applies around the malaria/zygomaticus iirc). Not sure what you think about this

Yes I am 100% willing to go through this. The idea of LIPUS for height growth is supplemental to a natural process. I believe LIPUS has significantly greater potential because the body is actively recruiting as much help as needed to bones meant to elongate during puberty. I also think it’s why people don’t really follow up on facial gains, because the body isn’t actively trying to grow facial bones. Think of repairing growth plates as a necessity, and repairing facial bones as a chore.

I just found out what EMS is through google. It actually sounds extremely interesting. I’ll look into it.

 

[pharmatropics]

second bump