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Alright, so I have a legit problem here. I turned 17 a couple months ago, and while I'm not a complete subhuman, I'm also far from chad-tier. That being said, I'm definitely more attractive than most of the males I go to school with, at least physically, from a masculinity standpoint.

The thing really is that I screwed up by expressing my political views (only minor right-wing views, nothing hitlerian), but since I live in the western part of Germany, a left-wing shithole, that alone was enough to kill me socially. In addition, I was socially completely anxious when I entered high school at 14, and... no friends, no socializing, no chances to do regular teenage shit like partying or experiencing things. Meanwhile, everyone else just kind of fell into social circles automatically at school.

To make matters worse, the few friends I had either became fucking christian fundamentalists or moved to different places. So yeah, I got completely fucked up by my own idiocy and personal circumstances. Now I find myself in this situation: I'm a gymcel (pretty strong for my age, stronger than most of my peers), but still an autistic retard socially.

For context: I wasn't always like this. Before high school, I was alright, not super outgoing, but not a autist either. Then covid hit, and my social skills were completely raped. No one gave me a chance to recover from that, and now I feel like I'm stuck in a perpetual state of a 13-year old. just a fucking purgatory. At this point I could disappear tomorrow and no one would care except my two jesus friends and my family.

I also have no real social media presence. Well, I have Instagram, but it's just a dead meme account with a shitty name my 8-year-old self thought up, so it's useless for anything remotely social. I also have snapchat, but no one apart of my two autist friends bothered adding me (probably related to my isolation or something).

I know I'm not totally fucked though. I don't have a troglodyte face, I may probably be a 5/10 facially, completly average, but I like to think I compensate with my physique. One time I went to a computer science camp sponsored by the government because I'm gifted or some shit, and a couple girls actually asked me out. That shocked me because it was the first time in years I wasn't treated like I had aids. But at school? No. The only places I've been in the last three years are the gym and school. No parties, no clubs, nothing even remotely social. No invitations. Nothing.

In germany, the majority of teenage social contacts originate from school. The friends I had from school either became puritans around women and avoided them entirely, which made me even more miserable. I had a few mature, around 4 years older friends (complete chads tbh) who partied, went to clubs and got tons of girls, but they would never invite me to those events. We mostly just went to gym together before those relationships also died out.

There's a bright side too I guess. In 9 months I'm moving to a big city (near my current arab-occupied shithole), becoming financially independent, getting a car and i will have some freedom. I'll be 18, so life won't totally suck. But here's my problem: I still don't want to be rejected by women right at this moment or have to wait.

So now I wonder: What can I do outside of school to socialize and get some bitches?

I've considered dating apps, but then I'd have to lie about my age. It's no big deal, I even think it might be fun, but I'm paranoid that some bitch in my class might see my profile and share it. That would just make my last few months of school even more miserable (may also end up being funny, if I actually have success, but I would look really miserable and be cucked by my school even harder if not). Also, I'm not 100% sure if my face would pass for 18. I may look older than some of the 18-year-old soy boys in my class, but I don't want to look like a wannabe fuckboy show-off with a 14-year old pussy face either. not sure whether my face will change from 17.25 to 18, but idk. Still never tried and may be an option?

Most of the advice on the internet for socializing on your own is just stupid:
"Go to church" -> LMAO almost no bitches, only old people and some autistic 20 year old females who look 12 face-wise, larping as christians, overweight and ugly (I tried it, even had opportunities to go to some youth groups thanks to my autist friends, only filled with social outcasts and strange people, will probably not appreciate sexual advances)
"go out and do pua" -> no. the center of my city is a wasteland overrun with refugees. not a white girl in sight. plus I do not have a car or money to drive to a bigger city. too much effort for guaranteed failure (also tried it and felt really autistic, a lot of times no clear rejection, just ignored most of the times. gave up and ended up doing fucking nothing that one day I tried, just wasted money and time)
"gym" -> my gym is literally a mosque. separate areas for men and women, people were banned for "harassing" women (daring to speak to them). won't try, do not want to lose one of my last hobbies, for which I actually have to interact with people and go outside
"get a hobby" -> what kind of hobby? I have a ton of hobbies. who the fuck is building legos or some shit actually going to help me
"join a sports club" -> I do martial arts. there are also different divisions and also most of the time separated by sex. I have been there. does not work. chad does not need to join a tennis club to get bitches
"make female friends" -> I cannot even make male friends, because I do not leave my home, fuck you
"take a dance class" -> on wikihow, but probably targeted to 40-year olds?
"be yourself" -> kys does not work
"go to the gym" -> I am doing it and having success. doesn't do anything if you do not actually visit places with bitches
"stop complaining" -> kys

I think it all boils down to, that someone has actually to invite or accept you into a friend group, and that you cannot do it completely on your own or forcefully.

So yeah, any actual tips for socializing and/or getting bitches? Or should I just fucking wait and get a grip on myself
 
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im not reading that, but im sorry for you
 
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once I was as you are now, it will pass. I promise
 
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i read it, are German girls interested in black men?
 
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Alright, so I have a legit problem here. I turned 17 a couple months ago, and while I'm not a complete subhuman, I'm also far from chad-tier. That being said, I'm definitely more attractive than most of the males I go to school with, at least physically, from a masculinity standpoint.

The thing really is that I screwed up by expressing my political views (only minor right-wing views, nothing hitlerian), but since I live in the western part of Germany, a left-wing shithole, that alone was enough to kill me socially. In addition, I was socially completely anxious when I entered high school at 14, and... no friends, no socializing, no chances to do regular teenage shit like partying or experiencing things. Meanwhile, everyone else just kind of fell into social circles automatically at school.

To make matters worse, the few friends I had either became fucking christian fundamentalists or moved to different places. So yeah, I got completely fucked up by my own idiocy and personal circumstances. Now I find myself in this situation: I'm a gymcel (pretty strong for my age, stronger than most of my peers), but still an autistic retard socially.

For context: I wasn't always like this. Before high school, I was alright, not super outgoing, but not a autist either. Then covid hit, and my social skills were completely raped. No one gave me a chance to recover from that, and now I feel like I'm stuck in a perpetual state of a 13-year old. just a fucking purgatory. At this point I could disappear tomorrow and no one would care except my two jesus friends and my family.

I also have no real social media presence. Well, I have Instagram, but it's just a dead meme account with a shitty name my 8-year-old self thought up, so it's useless for anything remotely social. I also have snapchat, but no one apart of my two autist friends bothered adding me (probably related to my isolation or something).

I know I'm not totally fucked though. I don't have a troglodyte face, I may probably be a 5/10 facially, completly average, but I like to think I compensate with my physique. One time I went to a computer science camp sponsored by the government because I'm gifted or some shit, and a couple girls actually asked me out. That shocked me because it was the first time in years I wasn't treated like I had aids. But at school? No. The only places I've been in the last three years are the gym and school. No parties, no clubs, nothing even remotely social. No invitations. Nothing.

In germany, the majority of teenage social contacts originate from school. The friends I had from school either became puritans around women and avoided them entirely, which made me even more miserable. I had a few mature, around 4 years older friends (complete chads tbh) who partied, went to clubs and got tons of girls, but they would never invite me to those events. We mostly just went to gym together before those relationships also died out.

There's a bright side too I guess. In 9 months I'm moving to a big city (near my current arab-occupied shithole), becoming financially independent, getting a car and i will have some freedom. I'll be 18, so life won't totally suck. But here's my problem: I still don't want to be rejected by women right at this moment or have to wait.

So now I wonder: What can I do outside of school to socialize and get some bitches?

I've considered dating apps, but then I'd have to lie about my age. It's no big deal, I even think it might be fun, but I'm paranoid that some bitch in my class might see my profile and share it. That would just make my last few months of school even more miserable (may also end up being funny, if I actually have success, but I would look really miserable and be cucked by my school even harder if not). Also, I'm not 100% sure if my face would pass for 18. I may look older than some of the 18-year-old soy boys in my class, but I don't want to look like a wannabe fuckboy show-off with a 14-year old pussy face either. not sure whether my face will change from 17.25 to 18, but idk. Still never tried and may be an option?

Most of the advice on the internet for socializing on your own is just stupid:
"Go to church" -> LMAO almost no bitches, only old people and some autistic 20 year old females who look 12 face-wise, larping as christians, overweight and ugly (I tried it, even had opportunities to go to some youth groups thanks to my autist friends, only filled with social outcasts and strange people, will probably not appreciate sexual advances)
"go out and do pua" -> no. the center of my city is a wasteland overrun with refugees. not a white girl in sight. plus I do not have a car or money to drive to a bigger city. too much effort for guaranteed failure (also tried it and felt really autistic, a lot of times no clear rejection, just ignored most of the times. gave up and ended up doing fucking nothing that one day I tried, just wasted money and time)
"gym" -> my gym is literally a mosque. separate areas for men and women, people were banned for "harassing" women (daring to speak to them). won't try, do not want to lose one of my last hobbies, for which I actually have to interact with people and go outside
"get a hobby" -> what kind of hobby? I have a ton of hobbies. who the fuck is building legos or some shit actually going to help me
"join a sports club" -> I do martial arts. there are also different divisions and also most of the time separated by sex. I have been there. does not work. chad does not need to join a tennis club to get bitches
"make female friends" -> I cannot even make male friends, because I do not leave my home, fuck you
"take a dance class" -> on wikihow, but probably targeted to 40-year olds?
"be yourself" -> kys does not work
"go to the gym" -> I am doing it and having success. doesn't do anything if you do not actually visit places with bitches
"stop complaining" -> kys

I think it all boils down to, that someone has actually to invite or accept you into a friend group, and that you cannot do it completely on your own or forcefully.

So yeah, any actual tips for socializing and/or getting bitches? Or should I just fucking wait and get a grip on myself
Only like 2 Snapchat friends?

Fuck that’s brutal. I’m mid MTN on the best day of my life and every foid from my class has added me off of quick add.

You’ve gotta be less attractive than you’re leading us to believe.
 
Only like 2 Snapchat friends?

Fuck that’s brutal. I’m mid MTN on the best day of my life and every foid from my class has added me off of quick add.

You’ve gotta be less attractive than you’re leading us to believe.
well yeah, no fucking idea then. The only hope that I have is, that I am ostracized for being retarded or having contrarian political beliefs. there have been some indicators and I also spoke to some classmates, who stated that this was basically the main reason everyone is avoiding me. but idk maybe I am just a subhuman
 
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Alright, so I have a legit problem here. I turned 17 a couple months ago, and while I'm not a complete subhuman, I'm also far from chad-tier. That being said, I'm definitely more attractive than most of the males I go to school with, at least physically, from a masculinity standpoint.

The thing really is that I screwed up by expressing my political views (only minor right-wing views, nothing hitlerian), but since I live in the western part of Germany, a left-wing shithole, that alone was enough to kill me socially. In addition, I was socially completely anxious when I entered high school at 14, and... no friends, no socializing, no chances to do regular teenage shit like partying or experiencing things. Meanwhile, everyone else just kind of fell into social circles automatically at school.

To make matters worse, the few friends I had either became fucking christian fundamentalists or moved to different places. So yeah, I got completely fucked up by my own idiocy and personal circumstances. Now I find myself in this situation: I'm a gymcel (pretty strong for my age, stronger than most of my peers), but still an autistic retard socially.

For context: I wasn't always like this. Before high school, I was alright, not super outgoing, but not a autist either. Then covid hit, and my social skills were completely raped. No one gave me a chance to recover from that, and now I feel like I'm stuck in a perpetual state of a 13-year old. just a fucking purgatory. At this point I could disappear tomorrow and no one would care except my two jesus friends and my family.

I also have no real social media presence. Well, I have Instagram, but it's just a dead meme account with a shitty name my 8-year-old self thought up, so it's useless for anything remotely social. I also have snapchat, but no one apart of my two autist friends bothered adding me (probably related to my isolation or something).

I know I'm not totally fucked though. I don't have a troglodyte face, I may probably be a 5/10 facially, completly average, but I like to think I compensate with my physique. One time I went to a computer science camp sponsored by the government because I'm gifted or some shit, and a couple girls actually asked me out. That shocked me because it was the first time in years I wasn't treated like I had aids. But at school? No. The only places I've been in the last three years are the gym and school. No parties, no clubs, nothing even remotely social. No invitations. Nothing.

In germany, the majority of teenage social contacts originate from school. The friends I had from school either became puritans around women and avoided them entirely, which made me even more miserable. I had a few mature, around 4 years older friends (complete chads tbh) who partied, went to clubs and got tons of girls, but they would never invite me to those events. We mostly just went to gym together before those relationships also died out.

There's a bright side too I guess. In 9 months I'm moving to a big city (near my current arab-occupied shithole), becoming financially independent, getting a car and i will have some freedom. I'll be 18, so life won't totally suck. But here's my problem: I still don't want to be rejected by women right at this moment or have to wait.

So now I wonder: What can I do outside of school to socialize and get some bitches?

I've considered dating apps, but then I'd have to lie about my age. It's no big deal, I even think it might be fun, but I'm paranoid that some bitch in my class might see my profile and share it. That would just make my last few months of school even more miserable (may also end up being funny, if I actually have success, but I would look really miserable and be cucked by my school even harder if not). Also, I'm not 100% sure if my face would pass for 18. I may look older than some of the 18-year-old soy boys in my class, but I don't want to look like a wannabe fuckboy show-off with a 14-year old pussy face either. not sure whether my face will change from 17.25 to 18, but idk. Still never tried and may be an option?

Most of the advice on the internet for socializing on your own is just stupid:
"Go to church" -> LMAO almost no bitches, only old people and some autistic 20 year old females who look 12 face-wise, larping as christians, overweight and ugly (I tried it, even had opportunities to go to some youth groups thanks to my autist friends, only filled with social outcasts and strange people, will probably not appreciate sexual advances)
"go out and do pua" -> no. the center of my city is a wasteland overrun with refugees. not a white girl in sight. plus I do not have a car or money to drive to a bigger city. too much effort for guaranteed failure (also tried it and felt really autistic, a lot of times no clear rejection, just ignored most of the times. gave up and ended up doing fucking nothing that one day I tried, just wasted money and time)
"gym" -> my gym is literally a mosque. separate areas for men and women, people were banned for "harassing" women (daring to speak to them). won't try, do not want to lose one of my last hobbies, for which I actually have to interact with people and go outside
"get a hobby" -> what kind of hobby? I have a ton of hobbies. who the fuck is building legos or some shit actually going to help me
"join a sports club" -> I do martial arts. there are also different divisions and also most of the time separated by sex. I have been there. does not work. chad does not need to join a tennis club to get bitches
"make female friends" -> I cannot even make male friends, because I do not leave my home, fuck you
"take a dance class" -> on wikihow, but probably targeted to 40-year olds?
"be yourself" -> kys does not work
"go to the gym" -> I am doing it and having success. doesn't do anything if you do not actually visit places with bitches
"stop complaining" -> kys

I think it all boils down to, that someone has actually to invite or accept you into a friend group, and that you cannot do it completely on your own or forcefully.

So yeah, any actual tips for socializing and/or getting bitches? Or should I just fucking wait and get a grip on myself
Just studycel, make money, then geomax to SEA
 
well yeah, no fucking idea then. The only hope that I have is, that I am ostracized for being retarded or having contrarian political beliefs. there have been some indicators and I also spoke to some classmates, who stated that this was basically the main reason everyone is avoiding me. but idk maybe I am just a subhuman
U might not be subhuman then, how your reputation and personality comes across to everyone is hella important.

I’d transfer and start anew atp while NTmaxxing hard as hell.
 
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How, and what did you do
for me 2020 lockdown and moving schools at 16 saved my life. I took the lessons of this forum and used the grace period of covid to reinvent myself. fixed a major insecurity of mine through surgery (deviated septum). learned to dress and act nt. started using and selling drugs (addicts make fast friends and good company esp at your age.) and women just came to me naturally after that.
 
and women just came to me naturally after that.
mirin, how did u retain the women u got from selling drugs and being low inhib
also what did you take
I’m thinking of taking pregabalin
 
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mirin, how did u retain the women u got from selling drugs and being low inhib
also what did you take
I’m thinking of taking pregabalin
I didn't really, it was either ltr or hookups

started with drinking and dxm. then benzos, molly, ket, opiates, coke, and ghb. I was big into psychs at this time as well but quit after junior year when I felt they were making me non nt.

dk anything about pregab. there was a thread on pro social drugs somewhere in botb.
 
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for me 2020 lockdown and moving schools at 16 saved my life. I took the lessons of this forum and used the grace period of covid to reinvent myself. fixed a major insecurity of mine through surgery (deviated septum). learned to dress and act nt. started using and selling drugs (addicts make fast friends and good company esp at your age.) and women just came to me naturally after that.
this gives me hope. I will have a few months to reinvent myself between graduation and uni, so hopefully I can defeat my autism during that time. not sure about dealing drugs though :lul:
I tried some mild stuff, mostly shitty bulgarian SSRIs, to try and fix my misery, but stopped because I got scared of castrating myself. Also spammed nicotine in different forms but it did nothing. Never had any real interest in accessing or using harder substances

I hope that ntmaxxing will suffice and see how it will play out

Not sure if I'd gain much from crimemaxxing, Im already pretty low-inhib and will have money during uni. I've considered selling drugs before, or simply doing other random crimes, mainly to have something going on other than school and the gym, to live a more interesting life, to at least have something to think back about fondly. But I've never felt like throwing away my gifted-kid status especially since its actually landed me a good job already, which I'll start after graduation.

I guess I just want this fucking isolated, miserable existence to end now, instead of dragging it out even longer. Who even cares about the political beliefs of some random autistic dude at school? high iq people are really the most oppressed group in the world. I really wish there was some kind of substance that could temporarily shut down this useless, primal need for socializing, without castrating you or messing up your intelligence (I’d really like to graduate, tbh, while also not feeling depressed or thinking about this shit instead of school)
 
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Alright, so I have a legit problem here. I turned 17 a couple months ago, and while I'm not a complete subhuman, I'm also far from chad-tier. That being said, I'm definitely more attractive than most of the males I go to school with, at least physically, from a masculinity standpoint.

The thing really is that I screwed up by expressing my political views (only minor right-wing views, nothing hitlerian), but since I live in the western part of Germany, a left-wing shithole, that alone was enough to kill me socially. In addition, I was socially completely anxious when I entered high school at 14, and... no friends, no socializing, no chances to do regular teenage shit like partying or experiencing things. Meanwhile, everyone else just kind of fell into social circles automatically at school.

To make matters worse, the few friends I had either became fucking christian fundamentalists or moved to different places. So yeah, I got completely fucked up by my own idiocy and personal circumstances. Now I find myself in this situation: I'm a gymcel (pretty strong for my age, stronger than most of my peers), but still an autistic retard socially.

For context: I wasn't always like this. Before high school, I was alright, not super outgoing, but not a autist either. Then covid hit, and my social skills were completely raped. No one gave me a chance to recover from that, and now I feel like I'm stuck in a perpetual state of a 13-year old. just a fucking purgatory. At this point I could disappear tomorrow and no one would care except my two jesus friends and my family.

I also have no real social media presence. Well, I have Instagram, but it's just a dead meme account with a shitty name my 8-year-old self thought up, so it's useless for anything remotely social. I also have snapchat, but no one apart of my two autist friends bothered adding me (probably related to my isolation or something).

I know I'm not totally fucked though. I don't have a troglodyte face, I may probably be a 5/10 facially, completly average, but I like to think I compensate with my physique. One time I went to a computer science camp sponsored by the government because I'm gifted or some shit, and a couple girls actually asked me out. That shocked me because it was the first time in years I wasn't treated like I had aids. But at school? No. The only places I've been in the last three years are the gym and school. No parties, no clubs, nothing even remotely social. No invitations. Nothing.

In germany, the majority of teenage social contacts originate from school. The friends I had from school either became puritans around women and avoided them entirely, which made me even more miserable. I had a few mature, around 4 years older friends (complete chads tbh) who partied, went to clubs and got tons of girls, but they would never invite me to those events. We mostly just went to gym together before those relationships also died out.

There's a bright side too I guess. In 9 months I'm moving to a big city (near my current arab-occupied shithole), becoming financially independent, getting a car and i will have some freedom. I'll be 18, so life won't totally suck. But here's my problem: I still don't want to be rejected by women right at this moment or have to wait.

So now I wonder: What can I do outside of school to socialize and get some bitches?

I've considered dating apps, but then I'd have to lie about my age. It's no big deal, I even think it might be fun, but I'm paranoid that some bitch in my class might see my profile and share it. That would just make my last few months of school even more miserable (may also end up being funny, if I actually have success, but I would look really miserable and be cucked by my school even harder if not). Also, I'm not 100% sure if my face would pass for 18. I may look older than some of the 18-year-old soy boys in my class, but I don't want to look like a wannabe fuckboy show-off with a 14-year old pussy face either. not sure whether my face will change from 17.25 to 18, but idk. Still never tried and may be an option?

Most of the advice on the internet for socializing on your own is just stupid:
"Go to church" -> LMAO almost no bitches, only old people and some autistic 20 year old females who look 12 face-wise, larping as christians, overweight and ugly (I tried it, even had opportunities to go to some youth groups thanks to my autist friends, only filled with social outcasts and strange people, will probably not appreciate sexual advances)
"go out and do pua" -> no. the center of my city is a wasteland overrun with refugees. not a white girl in sight. plus I do not have a car or money to drive to a bigger city. too much effort for guaranteed failure (also tried it and felt really autistic, a lot of times no clear rejection, just ignored most of the times. gave up and ended up doing fucking nothing that one day I tried, just wasted money and time)
"gym" -> my gym is literally a mosque. separate areas for men and women, people were banned for "harassing" women (daring to speak to them). won't try, do not want to lose one of my last hobbies, for which I actually have to interact with people and go outside
"get a hobby" -> what kind of hobby? I have a ton of hobbies. who the fuck is building legos or some shit actually going to help me
"join a sports club" -> I do martial arts. there are also different divisions and also most of the time separated by sex. I have been there. does not work. chad does not need to join a tennis club to get bitches
"make female friends" -> I cannot even make male friends, because I do not leave my home, fuck you
"take a dance class" -> on wikihow, but probably targeted to 40-year olds?
"be yourself" -> kys does not work
"go to the gym" -> I am doing it and having success. doesn't do anything if you do not actually visit places with bitches
"stop complaining" -> kys

I think it all boils down to, that someone has actually to invite or accept you into a friend group, and that you cannot do it completely on your own or forcefully.

So yeah, any actual tips for socializing and/or getting bitches? Or should I just fucking wait and get a grip on myself
So, mistake you made was expressing your political beliefs. Yeah been there done that.

Change schools and keep them to yourself, over for hitlercels. Also, retards who say “find a good girl in the church” are delusional “muh save the west”cels who don’t even go to church, disregard their advice
 
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good for you tbh alcohol is all you'll really need. I only meant to share my experience Im not recommending following my life choices by any means for any extended period of tine to someone in your enviable position. I work a get well job at a smoke shop for $17 an hour so don't listen to me:lul:

but if careermaxxing fails to meet your expectations, you can always turn your attention back this way.
 
Not one molecule
 
Good essay tho
 
Get off this site, you need mental health help. And this site is only gonna destroy it.
 
Only like 2 Snapchat friends?

Fuck that’s brutal. I’m mid MTN on the best day of my life and every foid from my class has added me off of quick add.

You’ve gotta be less attractive than you’re leading us to believe.
You are underrating yourself then. On the best day of my life I’m Mid MTN and I have no friends and get ignored
 
You are underrating yourself then. On the best day of my life I’m Mid MTN and I have no friends and get ignored
Might be subjective to the school but I am definitely not over mid MTN, I’m 6’2 but that doesn’t help much. Or maybe it does? (Tallcel ramblings)
 
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I had relatively few friends and little status among males who didn't know me, I did much better with females.
There is less discrepancy if one is neurotypical.
 
Alright, so I have a legit problem here. I turned 17 a couple months ago, and while I'm not a complete subhuman, I'm also far from chad-tier. That being said, I'm definitely more attractive than most of the males I go to school with, at least physically, from a masculinity standpoint.

The thing really is that I screwed up by expressing my political views (only minor right-wing views, nothing hitlerian), but since I live in the western part of Germany, a left-wing shithole, that alone was enough to kill me socially. In addition, I was socially completely anxious when I entered high school at 14, and... no friends, no socializing, no chances to do regular teenage shit like partying or experiencing things. Meanwhile, everyone else just kind of fell into social circles automatically at school.

To make matters worse, the few friends I had either became fucking christian fundamentalists or moved to different places. So yeah, I got completely fucked up by my own idiocy and personal circumstances. Now I find myself in this situation: I'm a gymcel (pretty strong for my age, stronger than most of my peers), but still an autistic retard socially.

For context: I wasn't always like this. Before high school, I was alright, not super outgoing, but not a autist either. Then covid hit, and my social skills were completely raped. No one gave me a chance to recover from that, and now I feel like I'm stuck in a perpetual state of a 13-year old. just a fucking purgatory. At this point I could disappear tomorrow and no one would care except my two jesus friends and my family.

I also have no real social media presence. Well, I have Instagram, but it's just a dead meme account with a shitty name my 8-year-old self thought up, so it's useless for anything remotely social. I also have snapchat, but no one apart of my two autist friends bothered adding me (probably related to my isolation or something).

I know I'm not totally fucked though. I don't have a troglodyte face, I may probably be a 5/10 facially, completly average, but I like to think I compensate with my physique. One time I went to a computer science camp sponsored by the government because I'm gifted or some shit, and a couple girls actually asked me out. That shocked me because it was the first time in years I wasn't treated like I had aids. But at school? No. The only places I've been in the last three years are the gym and school. No parties, no clubs, nothing even remotely social. No invitations. Nothing.

In germany, the majority of teenage social contacts originate from school. The friends I had from school either became puritans around women and avoided them entirely, which made me even more miserable. I had a few mature, around 4 years older friends (complete chads tbh) who partied, went to clubs and got tons of girls, but they would never invite me to those events. We mostly just went to gym together before those relationships also died out.

There's a bright side too I guess. In 9 months I'm moving to a big city (near my current arab-occupied shithole), becoming financially independent, getting a car and i will have some freedom. I'll be 18, so life won't totally suck. But here's my problem: I still don't want to be rejected by women right at this moment or have to wait.

So now I wonder: What can I do outside of school to socialize and get some bitches?

I've considered dating apps, but then I'd have to lie about my age. It's no big deal, I even think it might be fun, but I'm paranoid that some bitch in my class might see my profile and share it. That would just make my last few months of school even more miserable (may also end up being funny, if I actually have success, but I would look really miserable and be cucked by my school even harder if not). Also, I'm not 100% sure if my face would pass for 18. I may look older than some of the 18-year-old soy boys in my class, but I don't want to look like a wannabe fuckboy show-off with a 14-year old pussy face either. not sure whether my face will change from 17.25 to 18, but idk. Still never tried and may be an option?

Most of the advice on the internet for socializing on your own is just stupid:
"Go to church" -> LMAO almost no bitches, only old people and some autistic 20 year old females who look 12 face-wise, larping as christians, overweight and ugly (I tried it, even had opportunities to go to some youth groups thanks to my autist friends, only filled with social outcasts and strange people, will probably not appreciate sexual advances)
"go out and do pua" -> no. the center of my city is a wasteland overrun with refugees. not a white girl in sight. plus I do not have a car or money to drive to a bigger city. too much effort for guaranteed failure (also tried it and felt really autistic, a lot of times no clear rejection, just ignored most of the times. gave up and ended up doing fucking nothing that one day I tried, just wasted money and time)
"gym" -> my gym is literally a mosque. separate areas for men and women, people were banned for "harassing" women (daring to speak to them). won't try, do not want to lose one of my last hobbies, for which I actually have to interact with people and go outside
"get a hobby" -> what kind of hobby? I have a ton of hobbies. who the fuck is building legos or some shit actually going to help me
"join a sports club" -> I do martial arts. there are also different divisions and also most of the time separated by sex. I have been there. does not work. chad does not need to join a tennis club to get bitches
"make female friends" -> I cannot even make male friends, because I do not leave my home, fuck you
"take a dance class" -> on wikihow, but probably targeted to 40-year olds?
"be yourself" -> kys does not work
"go to the gym" -> I am doing it and having success. doesn't do anything if you do not actually visit places with bitches
"stop complaining" -> kys

I think it all boils down to, that someone has actually to invite or accept you into a friend group, and that you cannot do it completely on your own or forcefully.

So yeah, any actual tips for socializing and/or getting bitches? Or should I just fucking wait and get a grip on myself
why the fuck you want to hangout with people and socialize with people that have different political views than you they're your enemy you are better than them, you know you can make friends way much cooler outside of your school try to make friends with some homeless people give them 1$ and they will become your best friend or I can become your best friend for just 140$ a month I will even hug you and cuddle you
 
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Might be subjective to the school but I am definitely not over mid MTN, I’m 6’2 but that doesn’t help much. Or maybe it does? (Tallcel ramblings)
School + 6”2??? What??? Way above average height. I feel like it it was 6”1 maybe I wouldn’t get bullied as much
 
School + 6”2??? What??? Way above average height. I feel like it it was 6”1 maybe I wouldn’t get bullied as much
But it’s confusing, shorter guys who are also GL just naturally fit in and achieve goals socially that I could only dream of.

One being when my 5’7 friend who I heightmogged rejected my crush who wouldn’t even look at me. Height can compensate for some facial features being dogshit, but it will never be enough to fully compensate for being ugly.
 
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Alright, so I have a legit problem here. I turned 17 a couple months ago, and while I'm not a complete subhuman, I'm also far from chad-tier. That being said, I'm definitely more attractive than most of the males I go to school with, at least physically, from a masculinity standpoint.

The thing really is that I screwed up by expressing my political views (only minor right-wing views, nothing hitlerian), but since I live in the western part of Germany, a left-wing shithole, that alone was enough to kill me socially. In addition, I was socially completely anxious when I entered high school at 14, and... no friends, no socializing, no chances to do regular teenage shit like partying or experiencing things. Meanwhile, everyone else just kind of fell into social circles automatically at school.

To make matters worse, the few friends I had either became fucking christian fundamentalists or moved to different places. So yeah, I got completely fucked up by my own idiocy and personal circumstances. Now I find myself in this situation: I'm a gymcel (pretty strong for my age, stronger than most of my peers), but still an autistic retard socially.

For context: I wasn't always like this. Before high school, I was alright, not super outgoing, but not a autist either. Then covid hit, and my social skills were completely raped. No one gave me a chance to recover from that, and now I feel like I'm stuck in a perpetual state of a 13-year old. just a fucking purgatory. At this point I could disappear tomorrow and no one would care except my two jesus friends and my family.

I also have no real social media presence. Well, I have Instagram, but it's just a dead meme account with a shitty name my 8-year-old self thought up, so it's useless for anything remotely social. I also have snapchat, but no one apart of my two autist friends bothered adding me (probably related to my isolation or something).

I know I'm not totally fucked though. I don't have a troglodyte face, I may probably be a 5/10 facially, completly average, but I like to think I compensate with my physique. One time I went to a computer science camp sponsored by the government because I'm gifted or some shit, and a couple girls actually asked me out. That shocked me because it was the first time in years I wasn't treated like I had aids. But at school? No. The only places I've been in the last three years are the gym and school. No parties, no clubs, nothing even remotely social. No invitations. Nothing.

In germany, the majority of teenage social contacts originate from school. The friends I had from school either became puritans around women and avoided them entirely, which made me even more miserable. I had a few mature, around 4 years older friends (complete chads tbh) who partied, went to clubs and got tons of girls, but they would never invite me to those events. We mostly just went to gym together before those relationships also died out.

There's a bright side too I guess. In 9 months I'm moving to a big city (near my current arab-occupied shithole), becoming financially independent, getting a car and i will have some freedom. I'll be 18, so life won't totally suck. But here's my problem: I still don't want to be rejected by women right at this moment or have to wait.

So now I wonder: What can I do outside of school to socialize and get some bitches?

I've considered dating apps, but then I'd have to lie about my age. It's no big deal, I even think it might be fun, but I'm paranoid that some bitch in my class might see my profile and share it. That would just make my last few months of school even more miserable (may also end up being funny, if I actually have success, but I would look really miserable and be cucked by my school even harder if not). Also, I'm not 100% sure if my face would pass for 18. I may look older than some of the 18-year-old soy boys in my class, but I don't want to look like a wannabe fuckboy show-off with a 14-year old pussy face either. not sure whether my face will change from 17.25 to 18, but idk. Still never tried and may be an option?

Most of the advice on the internet for socializing on your own is just stupid:
"Go to church" -> LMAO almost no bitches, only old people and some autistic 20 year old females who look 12 face-wise, larping as christians, overweight and ugly (I tried it, even had opportunities to go to some youth groups thanks to my autist friends, only filled with social outcasts and strange people, will probably not appreciate sexual advances)
"go out and do pua" -> no. the center of my city is a wasteland overrun with refugees. not a white girl in sight. plus I do not have a car or money to drive to a bigger city. too much effort for guaranteed failure (also tried it and felt really autistic, a lot of times no clear rejection, just ignored most of the times. gave up and ended up doing fucking nothing that one day I tried, just wasted money and time)
"gym" -> my gym is literally a mosque. separate areas for men and women, people were banned for "harassing" women (daring to speak to them). won't try, do not want to lose one of my last hobbies, for which I actually have to interact with people and go outside
"get a hobby" -> what kind of hobby? I have a ton of hobbies. who the fuck is building legos or some shit actually going to help me
"join a sports club" -> I do martial arts. there are also different divisions and also most of the time separated by sex. I have been there. does not work. chad does not need to join a tennis club to get bitches
"make female friends" -> I cannot even make male friends, because I do not leave my home, fuck you
"take a dance class" -> on wikihow, but probably targeted to 40-year olds?
"be yourself" -> kys does not work
"go to the gym" -> I am doing it and having success. doesn't do anything if you do not actually visit places with bitches
"stop complaining" -> kys

I think it all boils down to, that someone has actually to invite or accept you into a friend group, and that you cannot do it completely on your own or forcefully.

So yeah, any actual tips for socializing and/or getting bitches? Or should I just fucking wait and get a grip on myself
echoing the others: never, ever express political opinions. only to trusted friends and still nothing to extreme, especially if the general environment is contrary to your own values.

first point: you don't need to be chad. just because chad has it easier doesn't mean that you can't slay on a local level. looksmax to the point of having enough SMV to be invited to parties hosted by the popular students, then NTmaxx and talk to people, just casually. this is a must. i would wager that these parties do occur where you are.

logic is like this: understand contemporary culture > talk generally to classmates. if SMV high enough > girl likes you (the more popular the better) > she tells her friends (the more popular the girl is, the faster the info propogates) > when friends host they remember to invite both of you to tease you together > you get kickstarted into the social scene.

keep the girl around to enjoy the benefits, but be careful. if they think you're leading her on etc you will lose all reputation.

source: in a similar situation, currently languishing in ND friend group (they are great) but i'm not one to be satisfied at the bottom of the food chain.
 
Alright, so I have a legit problem here. I turned 17 a couple months ago, and while I'm not a complete subhuman, I'm also far from chad-tier. That being said, I'm definitely more attractive than most of the males I go to school with, at least physically, from a masculinity standpoint.

The thing really is that I screwed up by expressing my political views (only minor right-wing views, nothing hitlerian), but since I live in the western part of Germany, a left-wing shithole, that alone was enough to kill me socially. In addition, I was socially completely anxious when I entered high school at 14, and... no friends, no socializing, no chances to do regular teenage shit like partying or experiencing things. Meanwhile, everyone else just kind of fell into social circles automatically at school.

To make matters worse, the few friends I had either became fucking christian fundamentalists or moved to different places. So yeah, I got completely fucked up by my own idiocy and personal circumstances. Now I find myself in this situation: I'm a gymcel (pretty strong for my age, stronger than most of my peers), but still an autistic retard socially.

For context: I wasn't always like this. Before high school, I was alright, not super outgoing, but not a autist either. Then covid hit, and my social skills were completely raped. No one gave me a chance to recover from that, and now I feel like I'm stuck in a perpetual state of a 13-year old. just a fucking purgatory. At this point I could disappear tomorrow and no one would care except my two jesus friends and my family.

I also have no real social media presence. Well, I have Instagram, but it's just a dead meme account with a shitty name my 8-year-old self thought up, so it's useless for anything remotely social. I also have snapchat, but no one apart of my two autist friends bothered adding me (probably related to my isolation or something).

I know I'm not totally fucked though. I don't have a troglodyte face, I may probably be a 5/10 facially, completly average, but I like to think I compensate with my physique. One time I went to a computer science camp sponsored by the government because I'm gifted or some shit, and a couple girls actually asked me out. That shocked me because it was the first time in years I wasn't treated like I had aids. But at school? No. The only places I've been in the last three years are the gym and school. No parties, no clubs, nothing even remotely social. No invitations. Nothing.

In germany, the majority of teenage social contacts originate from school. The friends I had from school either became puritans around women and avoided them entirely, which made me even more miserable. I had a few mature, around 4 years older friends (complete chads tbh) who partied, went to clubs and got tons of girls, but they would never invite me to those events. We mostly just went to gym together before those relationships also died out.

There's a bright side too I guess. In 9 months I'm moving to a big city (near my current arab-occupied shithole), becoming financially independent, getting a car and i will have some freedom. I'll be 18, so life won't totally suck. But here's my problem: I still don't want to be rejected by women right at this moment or have to wait.

So now I wonder: What can I do outside of school to socialize and get some bitches?

I've considered dating apps, but then I'd have to lie about my age. It's no big deal, I even think it might be fun, but I'm paranoid that some bitch in my class might see my profile and share it. That would just make my last few months of school even more miserable (may also end up being funny, if I actually have success, but I would look really miserable and be cucked by my school even harder if not). Also, I'm not 100% sure if my face would pass for 18. I may look older than some of the 18-year-old soy boys in my class, but I don't want to look like a wannabe fuckboy show-off with a 14-year old pussy face either. not sure whether my face will change from 17.25 to 18, but idk. Still never tried and may be an option?

Most of the advice on the internet for socializing on your own is just stupid:
"Go to church" -> LMAO almost no bitches, only old people and some autistic 20 year old females who look 12 face-wise, larping as christians, overweight and ugly (I tried it, even had opportunities to go to some youth groups thanks to my autist friends, only filled with social outcasts and strange people, will probably not appreciate sexual advances)
"go out and do pua" -> no. the center of my city is a wasteland overrun with refugees. not a white girl in sight. plus I do not have a car or money to drive to a bigger city. too much effort for guaranteed failure (also tried it and felt really autistic, a lot of times no clear rejection, just ignored most of the times. gave up and ended up doing fucking nothing that one day I tried, just wasted money and time)
"gym" -> my gym is literally a mosque. separate areas for men and women, people were banned for "harassing" women (daring to speak to them). won't try, do not want to lose one of my last hobbies, for which I actually have to interact with people and go outside
"get a hobby" -> what kind of hobby? I have a ton of hobbies. who the fuck is building legos or some shit actually going to help me
"join a sports club" -> I do martial arts. there are also different divisions and also most of the time separated by sex. I have been there. does not work. chad does not need to join a tennis club to get bitches
"make female friends" -> I cannot even make male friends, because I do not leave my home, fuck you
"take a dance class" -> on wikihow, but probably targeted to 40-year olds?
"be yourself" -> kys does not work
"go to the gym" -> I am doing it and having success. doesn't do anything if you do not actually visit places with bitches
"stop complaining" -> kys

I think it all boils down to, that someone has actually to invite or accept you into a friend group, and that you cannot do it completely on your own or forcefully.

So yeah, any actual tips for socializing and/or getting bitches? Or should I just fucking wait and get a grip on myself
Did not read but u seem cool
 
echoing the others: never, ever express political opinions. only to trusted friends and still nothing to extreme, especially if the general environment is contrary to your own values.

first point: you don't need to be chad. just because chad has it easier doesn't mean that you can't slay on a local level. looksmax to the point of having enough SMV to be invited to parties hosted by the popular students, then NTmaxx and talk to people, just casually. this is a must. i would wager that these parties do occur where you are.

logic is like this: understand contemporary culture > talk generally to classmates. if SMV high enough > girl likes you (the more popular the better) > she tells her friends (the more popular the girl is, the faster the info propogates) > when friends host they remember to invite both of you to tease you together > you get kickstarted into the social scene.

keep the girl around to enjoy the benefits, but be careful. if they think you're leading her on etc you will lose all reputation.

source: in a similar situation, currently languishing in ND friend group (they are great) but i'm not one to be satisfied at the bottom of the food chain.
you are right about keeping political opinions, I've learned that the hard way. Shutting up is the only option but that's hard because ive developed a sort of proselytizing fervor from watching too much ben shapiro destroys woke sjw content when i was 12.

Using girls to gain status is a strategy I hadn't considered. maybe ill try it out at uni, although I probably need to improve my looks before.

As for my autistic friend group, I also don't dislike them. But they dont bother integrating into society, which takes us down completely different paths (kind of fucking me up)
 
Alright, so I have a legit problem here. I turned 17 a couple months ago, and while I'm not a complete subhuman, I'm also far from chad-tier. That being said, I'm definitely more attractive than most of the males I go to school with, at least physically, from a masculinity standpoint.

The thing really is that I screwed up by expressing my political views (only minor right-wing views, nothing hitlerian), but since I live in the western part of Germany, a left-wing shithole, that alone was enough to kill me socially. In addition, I was socially completely anxious when I entered high school at 14, and... no friends, no socializing, no chances to do regular teenage shit like partying or experiencing things. Meanwhile, everyone else just kind of fell into social circles automatically at school.

To make matters worse, the few friends I had either became fucking christian fundamentalists or moved to different places. So yeah, I got completely fucked up by my own idiocy and personal circumstances. Now I find myself in this situation: I'm a gymcel (pretty strong for my age, stronger than most of my peers), but still an autistic retard socially.

For context: I wasn't always like this. Before high school, I was alright, not super outgoing, but not a autist either. Then covid hit, and my social skills were completely raped. No one gave me a chance to recover from that, and now I feel like I'm stuck in a perpetual state of a 13-year old. just a fucking purgatory. At this point I could disappear tomorrow and no one would care except my two jesus friends and my family.

I also have no real social media presence. Well, I have Instagram, but it's just a dead meme account with a shitty name my 8-year-old self thought up, so it's useless for anything remotely social. I also have snapchat, but no one apart of my two autist friends bothered adding me (probably related to my isolation or something).

I know I'm not totally fucked though. I don't have a troglodyte face, I may probably be a 5/10 facially, completly average, but I like to think I compensate with my physique. One time I went to a computer science camp sponsored by the government because I'm gifted or some shit, and a couple girls actually asked me out. That shocked me because it was the first time in years I wasn't treated like I had aids. But at school? No. The only places I've been in the last three years are the gym and school. No parties, no clubs, nothing even remotely social. No invitations. Nothing.

In germany, the majority of teenage social contacts originate from school. The friends I had from school either became puritans around women and avoided them entirely, which made me even more miserable. I had a few mature, around 4 years older friends (complete chads tbh) who partied, went to clubs and got tons of girls, but they would never invite me to those events. We mostly just went to gym together before those relationships also died out.

There's a bright side too I guess. In 9 months I'm moving to a big city (near my current arab-occupied shithole), becoming financially independent, getting a car and i will have some freedom. I'll be 18, so life won't totally suck. But here's my problem: I still don't want to be rejected by women right at this moment or have to wait.

So now I wonder: What can I do outside of school to socialize and get some bitches?

I've considered dating apps, but then I'd have to lie about my age. It's no big deal, I even think it might be fun, but I'm paranoid that some bitch in my class might see my profile and share it. That would just make my last few months of school even more miserable (may also end up being funny, if I actually have success, but I would look really miserable and be cucked by my school even harder if not). Also, I'm not 100% sure if my face would pass for 18. I may look older than some of the 18-year-old soy boys in my class, but I don't want to look like a wannabe fuckboy show-off with a 14-year old pussy face either. not sure whether my face will change from 17.25 to 18, but idk. Still never tried and may be an option?

Most of the advice on the internet for socializing on your own is just stupid:
"Go to church" -> LMAO almost no bitches, only old people and some autistic 20 year old females who look 12 face-wise, larping as christians, overweight and ugly (I tried it, even had opportunities to go to some youth groups thanks to my autist friends, only filled with social outcasts and strange people, will probably not appreciate sexual advances)
"go out and do pua" -> no. the center of my city is a wasteland overrun with refugees. not a white girl in sight. plus I do not have a car or money to drive to a bigger city. too much effort for guaranteed failure (also tried it and felt really autistic, a lot of times no clear rejection, just ignored most of the times. gave up and ended up doing fucking nothing that one day I tried, just wasted money and time)
"gym" -> my gym is literally a mosque. separate areas for men and women, people were banned for "harassing" women (daring to speak to them). won't try, do not want to lose one of my last hobbies, for which I actually have to interact with people and go outside
"get a hobby" -> what kind of hobby? I have a ton of hobbies. who the fuck is building legos or some shit actually going to help me
"join a sports club" -> I do martial arts. there are also different divisions and also most of the time separated by sex. I have been there. does not work. chad does not need to join a tennis club to get bitches
"make female friends" -> I cannot even make male friends, because I do not leave my home, fuck you
"take a dance class" -> on wikihow, but probably targeted to 40-year olds?
"be yourself" -> kys does not work
"go to the gym" -> I am doing it and having success. doesn't do anything if you do not actually visit places with bitches
"stop complaining" -> kys

I think it all boils down to, that someone has actually to invite or accept you into a friend group, and that you cannot do it completely on your own or forcefully.

So yeah, any actual tips for socializing and/or getting bitches? Or should I just fucking wait and get a grip on myself
Just move to a different part of the country/world and restart if it’s that bad, get off org and NTmax
 
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5/10 face is not enough. Tall height is a failo for making friends.
 
Alright, so I have a legit problem here. I turned 17 a couple months ago, and while I'm not a complete subhuman, I'm also far from chad-tier. That being said, I'm definitely more attractive than most of the males I go to school with, at least physically, from a masculinity standpoint.

The thing really is that I screwed up by expressing my political views (only minor right-wing views, nothing hitlerian), but since I live in the western part of Germany, a left-wing shithole, that alone was enough to kill me socially. In addition, I was socially completely anxious when I entered high school at 14, and... no friends, no socializing, no chances to do regular teenage shit like partying or experiencing things. Meanwhile, everyone else just kind of fell into social circles automatically at school.

To make matters worse, the few friends I had either became fucking christian fundamentalists or moved to different places. So yeah, I got completely fucked up by my own idiocy and personal circumstances. Now I find myself in this situation: I'm a gymcel (pretty strong for my age, stronger than most of my peers), but still an autistic retard socially.

For context: I wasn't always like this. Before high school, I was alright, not super outgoing, but not a autist either. Then covid hit, and my social skills were completely raped. No one gave me a chance to recover from that, and now I feel like I'm stuck in a perpetual state of a 13-year old. just a fucking purgatory. At this point I could disappear tomorrow and no one would care except my two jesus friends and my family.

I also have no real social media presence. Well, I have Instagram, but it's just a dead meme account with a shitty name my 8-year-old self thought up, so it's useless for anything remotely social. I also have snapchat, but no one apart of my two autist friends bothered adding me (probably related to my isolation or something).

I know I'm not totally fucked though. I don't have a troglodyte face, I may probably be a 5/10 facially, completly average, but I like to think I compensate with my physique. One time I went to a computer science camp sponsored by the government because I'm gifted or some shit, and a couple girls actually asked me out. That shocked me because it was the first time in years I wasn't treated like I had aids. But at school? No. The only places I've been in the last three years are the gym and school. No parties, no clubs, nothing even remotely social. No invitations. Nothing.

In germany, the majority of teenage social contacts originate from school. The friends I had from school either became puritans around women and avoided them entirely, which made me even more miserable. I had a few mature, around 4 years older friends (complete chads tbh) who partied, went to clubs and got tons of girls, but they would never invite me to those events. We mostly just went to gym together before those relationships also died out.

There's a bright side too I guess. In 9 months I'm moving to a big city (near my current arab-occupied shithole), becoming financially independent, getting a car and i will have some freedom. I'll be 18, so life won't totally suck. But here's my problem: I still don't want to be rejected by women right at this moment or have to wait.

So now I wonder: What can I do outside of school to socialize and get some bitches?

I've considered dating apps, but then I'd have to lie about my age. It's no big deal, I even think it might be fun, but I'm paranoid that some bitch in my class might see my profile and share it. That would just make my last few months of school even more miserable (may also end up being funny, if I actually have success, but I would look really miserable and be cucked by my school even harder if not). Also, I'm not 100% sure if my face would pass for 18. I may look older than some of the 18-year-old soy boys in my class, but I don't want to look like a wannabe fuckboy show-off with a 14-year old pussy face either. not sure whether my face will change from 17.25 to 18, but idk. Still never tried and may be an option?

Most of the advice on the internet for socializing on your own is just stupid:
"Go to church" -> LMAO almost no bitches, only old people and some autistic 20 year old females who look 12 face-wise, larping as christians, overweight and ugly (I tried it, even had opportunities to go to some youth groups thanks to my autist friends, only filled with social outcasts and strange people, will probably not appreciate sexual advances)
"go out and do pua" -> no. the center of my city is a wasteland overrun with refugees. not a white girl in sight. plus I do not have a car or money to drive to a bigger city. too much effort for guaranteed failure (also tried it and felt really autistic, a lot of times no clear rejection, just ignored most of the times. gave up and ended up doing fucking nothing that one day I tried, just wasted money and time)
"gym" -> my gym is literally a mosque. separate areas for men and women, people were banned for "harassing" women (daring to speak to them). won't try, do not want to lose one of my last hobbies, for which I actually have to interact with people and go outside
"get a hobby" -> what kind of hobby? I have a ton of hobbies. who the fuck is building legos or some shit actually going to help me
"join a sports club" -> I do martial arts. there are also different divisions and also most of the time separated by sex. I have been there. does not work. chad does not need to join a tennis club to get bitches
"make female friends" -> I cannot even make male friends, because I do not leave my home, fuck you
"take a dance class" -> on wikihow, but probably targeted to 40-year olds?
"be yourself" -> kys does not work
"go to the gym" -> I am doing it and having success. doesn't do anything if you do not actually visit places with bitches
"stop complaining" -> kys

I think it all boils down to, that someone has actually to invite or accept you into a friend group, and that you cannot do it completely on your own or forcefully.

So yeah, any actual tips for socializing and/or getting bitches? Or should I just fucking wait and get a grip on myself
dnr sorry
 
Alright, so I have a legit problem here. I turned 17 a couple months ago, and while I'm not a complete subhuman, I'm also far from chad-tier. That being said, I'm definitely more attractive than most of the males I go to school with, at least physically, from a masculinity standpoint.

The thing really is that I screwed up by expressing my political views (only minor right-wing views, nothing hitlerian), but since I live in the western part of Germany, a left-wing shithole, that alone was enough to kill me socially. In addition, I was socially completely anxious when I entered high school at 14, and... no friends, no socializing, no chances to do regular teenage shit like partying or experiencing things. Meanwhile, everyone else just kind of fell into social circles automatically at school.

To make matters worse, the few friends I had either became fucking christian fundamentalists or moved to different places. So yeah, I got completely fucked up by my own idiocy and personal circumstances. Now I find myself in this situation: I'm a gymcel (pretty strong for my age, stronger than most of my peers), but still an autistic retard socially.

For context: I wasn't always like this. Before high school, I was alright, not super outgoing, but not a autist either. Then covid hit, and my social skills were completely raped. No one gave me a chance to recover from that, and now I feel like I'm stuck in a perpetual state of a 13-year old. just a fucking purgatory. At this point I could disappear tomorrow and no one would care except my two jesus friends and my family.

I also have no real social media presence. Well, I have Instagram, but it's just a dead meme account with a shitty name my 8-year-old self thought up, so it's useless for anything remotely social. I also have snapchat, but no one apart of my two autist friends bothered adding me (probably related to my isolation or something).

I know I'm not totally fucked though. I don't have a troglodyte face, I may probably be a 5/10 facially, completly average, but I like to think I compensate with my physique. One time I went to a computer science camp sponsored by the government because I'm gifted or some shit, and a couple girls actually asked me out. That shocked me because it was the first time in years I wasn't treated like I had aids. But at school? No. The only places I've been in the last three years are the gym and school. No parties, no clubs, nothing even remotely social. No invitations. Nothing.

In germany, the majority of teenage social contacts originate from school. The friends I had from school either became puritans around women and avoided them entirely, which made me even more miserable. I had a few mature, around 4 years older friends (complete chads tbh) who partied, went to clubs and got tons of girls, but they would never invite me to those events. We mostly just went to gym together before those relationships also died out.

There's a bright side too I guess. In 9 months I'm moving to a big city (near my current arab-occupied shithole), becoming financially independent, getting a car and i will have some freedom. I'll be 18, so life won't totally suck. But here's my problem: I still don't want to be rejected by women right at this moment or have to wait.

So now I wonder: What can I do outside of school to socialize and get some bitches?

I've considered dating apps, but then I'd have to lie about my age. It's no big deal, I even think it might be fun, but I'm paranoid that some bitch in my class might see my profile and share it. That would just make my last few months of school even more miserable (may also end up being funny, if I actually have success, but I would look really miserable and be cucked by my school even harder if not). Also, I'm not 100% sure if my face would pass for 18. I may look older than some of the 18-year-old soy boys in my class, but I don't want to look like a wannabe fuckboy show-off with a 14-year old pussy face either. not sure whether my face will change from 17.25 to 18, but idk. Still never tried and may be an option?

Most of the advice on the internet for socializing on your own is just stupid:
"Go to church" -> LMAO almost no bitches, only old people and some autistic 20 year old females who look 12 face-wise, larping as christians, overweight and ugly (I tried it, even had opportunities to go to some youth groups thanks to my autist friends, only filled with social outcasts and strange people, will probably not appreciate sexual advances)
"go out and do pua" -> no. the center of my city is a wasteland overrun with refugees. not a white girl in sight. plus I do not have a car or money to drive to a bigger city. too much effort for guaranteed failure (also tried it and felt really autistic, a lot of times no clear rejection, just ignored most of the times. gave up and ended up doing fucking nothing that one day I tried, just wasted money and time)
"gym" -> my gym is literally a mosque. separate areas for men and women, people were banned for "harassing" women (daring to speak to them). won't try, do not want to lose one of my last hobbies, for which I actually have to interact with people and go outside
"get a hobby" -> what kind of hobby? I have a ton of hobbies. who the fuck is building legos or some shit actually going to help me
"join a sports club" -> I do martial arts. there are also different divisions and also most of the time separated by sex. I have been there. does not work. chad does not need to join a tennis club to get bitches
"make female friends" -> I cannot even make male friends, because I do not leave my home, fuck you
"take a dance class" -> on wikihow, but probably targeted to 40-year olds?
"be yourself" -> kys does not work
"go to the gym" -> I am doing it and having success. doesn't do anything if you do not actually visit places with bitches
"stop complaining" -> kys

I think it all boils down to, that someone has actually to invite or accept you into a friend group, and that you cannot do it completely on your own or forcefully.

So yeah, any actual tips for socializing and/or getting bitches? Or should I just fucking wait and get a grip on myself
AKA you life is going to change in 9 months and by next yearish youll be a free man but ugly?
Just improve looks the best you can. "Chad does not need to.." become a chad bro. DM for advice or post self
If your worried about bitches your worried about the wrong thing. Ask any adult if they are still with their highschool sweetheart and see what advice they give you.
 

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