Current greycel protocol, enclomiphene is untapped, thoughts on MK.

[highIQgreycel]

Current protocol:
Accutane 80mg (4 months in: clear face)
Oral Min 2.5mg
Fin 1mg
About to finish BPC "cycle" for some tendon issues
I got a test lab and I'm at 800 natural at 19 which is pretty nice.

Enclomiphene: It pisses me off because every time I see someone ask about enclo everyone replies saying "bro just pin test". I'm convinced they are saying this because they fucked their natural production and want everyone to come down with them.
My close friend recently took enclo for 3 months: (12.5mg 2 days on 1 day off) and his test went from 550 to fucking 1900. He got no sides and over the next couple weeks it will just return to baseline if not stay a bit above.
This should be utilized for teens going through development because you can run a cycle and be a beast for a couple months without having to take test for the rest of your life. Not sure why its so underrated. Tell me if I'm retarded. I will be running 6.25mg EOD soon. Thoughts?

I am pretty set on running enclo especially bc I'm already taking shit to block estro and andro side effects. But I am also considering MK-677. I've already done research but I want some anecdotal or advice whether it would be worth. and please don't tell me to just take var. How grey was this post on a scale from 1-10

 

[aids]

Ask yo boy bout his SHBG levels m8.

 

[Potency]

depends on goal w MK

 

[highIQgreycel]

Ask yo boy bout his SHBG levels m8.

Cope. In long term studies on clomiphene it didn't raise SHGB enough to illicit any side effects. Additionally the idea that test bound to SHGB isn't biologically active is an outdated theory from a study in the 1980s. Plus idgaf my friend felt amazing and put on muscle and if I see any sides I'll just lower my dose. Trynna give me a real reply or nah

 

[highIQgreycel]

depends on goal w MK

what do you mean, its just for GH pretty self explanatory.

 

[Potency]

what do you mean, its just for GH pretty self explanatory.

hgh is way better, some people use mk for appetite

 

[brutalHARNAN]

Tbh your cooking your IGF-1 levels with aromatase inhibitors, studies shows that less estrogen levels in body causes less IGF-1 production,with enclomiphene your increasing estrogen indirectly but Ai will lower the estrogen levels so less IGF-1 production or unless your on a high dose.

 

[highIQgreycel]

hgh is way better, some people use mk for appetite

Yeah I'm still a grey pussy so I'll prob just fade that and stick to enclo.

 

[Potency]

Tbh your cooking your IGF-1 levels with aromatase inhibitors, studies shows that less estrogen levels in body causes less IGF-1 production,with enclomiphene your increasing estrogen indirectly but Ai will lower the estrogen levels so less IGF-1 production or unless your on a high dose.

I swear niggas hear E2 and just think it's not vital to your body at all

 

[brutalHARNAN]

Fr like you need it

 

[highIQgreycel]

Tbh your cooking your IGF-1 levels with aromatase inhibitors, studies shows that less estrogen levels in body causes less IGF-1 production,with enclomiphene your increasing estrogen indirectly but Ai will lower the estrogen levels so less IGF-1 production or unless your on a high dose.

Mb misstype I'm not taking any Ai rn. My protocol is what I'm taking. And estrogen levels are usually pretty stable on enclo.

 

[highIQgreycel]

I swear niggas hear E2 and just think it's not vital to your body at all

Im not taking Ai bruh, enclo boosts E2 if anything im not that retarded

 

[Scholar123]

This should be utilized for teens going through development because

Grey.

Enclomiphene acts as an estrogen agonist in bone leading to premature growth plate closure.

 

[Potency]

Im not taking Ai bruh, enclo boosts E2 if anything im not that retarded

"not that retarded" just a tad bit

 

[brutalHARNAN]

No bruh , it is not stable . Lemme explain, your taking enclo for more test right ? How does enclo works ? It tells your body to create more test to increase estrogen. This might sound like estrogen levels will be stable cause high test . But more test equals more estrogen.

 

[highIQgreycel]

Grey.

Enclomiphene acts as an estrogen agonist in bone leading to premature growth plate closure.

Enclomiphene's action is tissue-dependent. Although some SERMs have estrogen-agonist effects in bone.

 

[highIQgreycel]

No bruh , it is not stable . Lemme explain, your taking enclo for more test right ? How does enclo works ? It tells your body to create more test to increase estrogen. This might sound like estrogen levels will be stable cause high test . But more test equals more estrogen.

Yeah I'm aware, I think as long as I keep it at a low dose I wouldn't need an Ai, plus estrogen levels have stayed stable in long term studies of clomiphene.

 

[highIQgreycel]

No bruh , it is not stable . Lemme explain, your taking enclo for more test right ? How does enclo works ? It tells your body to create more test to increase estrogen. This might sound like estrogen levels will be stable cause high test . But more test equals more estrogen.

Honestly the fear mongering is pissing me off, enclo is untapped.

 

[highIQgreycel]

"not that retarded" just a tad bit

fire reply bro

 

[brutalHARNAN]

Im not taking Ai bruh, enclo boosts E2 if anything im not that retarded

Honestly the fear mongering is pissing me off, enclo is untapped.

Sure brochacho

 

[highIQgreycel]

Sure brochacho

Still don't get ur point. Nice reply

 

[Boosie’s_Build]

Enclomiphene study on ppl with low test improves test to normal to high range. 900ng/dl. Was the top range I just scanned it so dyor. But yes Enclomiphene is proven to work that’s y it’s in a pct as well. Idk about near 1900s but he might just respond well to it.
You should run like half an aromasin eod.

You should look into Sarms. Very low suppression and toxicity Sarms are ostarine and S4

Testosterone restoration using enclomiphene citrate in men with secondary hypogonadism: a pharmacodynamic and pharmacokinetic study - PMC

To determine the pharmacodynamic profile of serum total testosterone and luteinizing hormone (LH) levels in men with secondary hypogonadism after initial and chronic daily oral doses of enclomiphene citrate vs transdermal testosterone. To determine ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Scholar123]

Enclomiphene's action is tissue-dependent. Although some SERMs have estrogen-agonist effects in bone.

One google search and you'd see how wrong you are

Why do greys who joined org a week ago genuinely think they've discovered something that none of us know about

 

[Scholar123]

Enclomiphene study on ppl with low test improves test to normal to high range. 900ng/dl. Was the top range I just scanned it so dyor. But yes Enclomiphene is proven to work that’s y it’s in a pct as well. Idk about near 1900s but he might just respond well to it.
You should run like half an aromasin eod.

You should look into Sarms. Very low suppression and toxicity Sarms are ostarine and S4

Testosterone restoration using enclomiphene citrate in men with secondary hypogonadism: a pharmacodynamic and pharmacokinetic study - PMC

To determine the pharmacodynamic profile of serum total testosterone and luteinizing hormone (LH) levels in men with secondary hypogonadism after initial and chronic daily oral doses of enclomiphene citrate vs transdermal testosterone. To determine ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Yes if you're running enclo an AI is still important

 

[brutalHARNAN]

Still don't get ur point. Nice reply

My point is that if your taking it as a teen your cooking your genetic potential. Even if ya say enclo is goated . Ya need to understand the basic logic. Not like my Friend felt good so I will take it

 

[highIQgreycel]

Enclomiphene study on ppl with low test improves test to normal to high range. 900ng/dl. Was the top range I just scanned it so dyor. But yes Enclomiphene is proven to work that’s y it’s in a pct as well. Idk about near 1900s but he might just respond well to it.
You should run like half an aromasin eod.

You should look into Sarms. Very low suppression and toxicity Sarms are ostarine and S4

Testosterone restoration using enclomiphene citrate in men with secondary hypogonadism: a pharmacodynamic and pharmacokinetic study - PMC

To determine the pharmacodynamic profile of serum total testosterone and luteinizing hormone (LH) levels in men with secondary hypogonadism after initial and chronic daily oral doses of enclomiphene citrate vs transdermal testosterone. To determine ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I'd prefer not to run an Ai and just do a low dose of enclo but yeah idk im still pretty retarded when it comes to this stuff. I'll look into SARMS but I'm also natural 800 test so maybe this is pointless and I just stick to my greycel protocol.

 

[Boosie’s_Build]

I totally agree. There’s definitely 100s threads about enclo on here and on google. Fucking everywhere dude More plate more dates probably has a great video in it.
I’m about to research Accutane. Still haven’t but my acne isn’t bad just abt to run a sarm cycle. Does anybody have a good thread. Interesting in low dose vs normal vs high. Thx

One google search and you'd see how wrong you are

Why do greys who joined org a week ago genuinely think they've discovered something that none of us know about

 

[highIQgreycel]

My point is that if your taking it as a teen your cooking your genetic potential. Even if ya say enclo is goated . Ya need to understand the basic logic. Not like my Friend felt good so I will take it

I mean I have done my own research but how would it cook my genetic potential. Im 19.

 

[Boosie’s_Build]

I'd prefer not to run an Ai and just do a low dose of enclo but yeah idk im still pretty retarded when it comes to this stuff. I'll look into SARMS but I'm also natural 800 test so maybe this is pointless and I just stick to my greycel protocol.

It just depends what ur goals are some ppl want faster progress. Others bones.

 

[brutalHARNAN]

I mean I have done my own research but how would it cook my genetic potential. Im 19.

Ya still in puberty ? Or ya grown ass man .

 

[Boosie’s_Build]

I mean I have done my own research but how would it cook my genetic potential. Im 19.

Ur probably fine just look into how the endocrine system works and how it affects ur brain.

 

[highIQgreycel]

One google search and you'd see how wrong you are

Why do greys who joined org a week ago genuinely think they've discovered something that none of us know about

Just googled it and it agreed with me. Sure call me grey but I have done my own research and I only just made an account because I'm not a fucking loser

 

[Boosie’s_Build]

Bro you should be liking everybody’s comments

 

[highIQgreycel]

Ya still in puberty ? Or ya grown ass man .

Bro I'm 19. Obvioulsy done growing but still in late stages of puberty. No clue how having higher test during late stages of puberty would "cook my genetic potential"

 

[highIQgreycel]

Ur probably fine just look into how the endocrine system works and how it affects ur brain.

Aight preciate it

 

[highIQgreycel]

Bro you should be liking everybody’s comments

Why

 

[brutalHARNAN]

Ye I thought you were like 16 or sum . Ig there isn't any hope . But if your doing it for height. Fixing posture alone will get you 2 cm . Ngl if you have bad posture. Well if your 19 can't be helped so do what ya can .

 

[highIQgreycel]

Ye I thought you were like 16 or sum . Ig there isn't any hope . But if your doing it for height. Fixing posture alone will get you 2 cm . Ngl if you have bad posture. Well if your 19 can't be helped so do what ya can .

Holy shit I said I was 19 like 3 times. And no I'm not doing it for height I'm doing it to have high asf test. Mainly for muscle growth and quality of life.

 

[Boosie’s_Build]

Why

It helps peoples rep ratio. So people respond more aswell. Shows that you:
Agree, like, relate, comprehend, what was said.

Also the ai will help get ahead of any gyno.

 

[brutalHARNAN]

Kay but it can still cause bone porosity . Blast mk without ai . I was on it for 4 months crazy weight gain . What brand are ya getting?

 

[highIQgreycel]

It helps peoples rep ratio. So people respond more aswell. Shows that you:
Agree, like, relate, comprehend, what was said.

Also the ai will help get ahead of any gyno.

Yeah I got a little gyno when I was like 15 going through puberty so I'll consider it but thats just adding more things to the mix. Might just low dose it and pray.

Kay but it can still cause bone porosity . Blast mk without ai . I was on it for 4 months crazy weight gain . What brand are ya getting?

Haven't decided yet on MK I need to do more research, why without ai? You recommend it tho?

 

[Boosie’s_Build]

Yeah I got a little gyno when I was like 15 going through puberty so I'll consider it but thats just adding more things to the mix. Might just low dose it and pray.

“I have gyno.” So this is what u sound like. I’m going to run smth that could give me worse gyno. Also not harm mitigate. Run a low sarm ur bones will be fine. Get ur vitamins in check.

I’ve been researching Mk and going the peptide route is more optimal.

 

[highIQgreycel]

Yes if you're running enclo an AI is still important

 

[highIQgreycel]

“I have gyno.” So this is what u sound like. I’m going to run smth that could give me worse gyno. Also not harm mitigate. Run a low sarm ur bones will be fine. Get ur vitamins in check.

I’ve been researching Mk and going the peptide route is more optimal.

Nah the gyno went away somehow, it was just brief during puberty. Also Enclo is good at regulating estrogenic activity (see below). Also by peptide route do you mean sermorelin and tesa?

 

[Boosie’s_Build]

Nah the gyno went away somehow, it was just brief during puberty. Also Enclo is good at regulating estrogenic activity (see below). Also by peptide route do you mean sermorelin and tesa?

Sermorelin is over priced waste of money.

Tesa is the better version but expensive.

Cjc no da [aka mod (1-29) whatever it’s called] and ipa dosed 250mcg every night before bed and for better results dose right when you wake up and go work out then after u work out again then eat ur first meal. (Best for fat lost) muscle gain same shit just don’t eat 45-60 mins after dose and not 2 hrs before. Optimally 3+
^most optimal cjc no dac and ipa for safety and price.

Mk increase prolactin and cortisol. Also lean is law so ur gonna eat more bc it’s a ghrelin antagonists.

Reduce Mk sides

p5p I have heard is good I havnt read about it in detail.
Mk is just convenient but then u still have to take the p5p pin. So yeah.

Slin pills with meals. Or Reta or cardarine. Or all of them. Depends on goals.

The enclo having better sides is kinda bs unless your getting pharma grade. Bc ur more likely than not getting clomid when sourcing online.

 

[YIBUTI_]

I'd prefer not to run an Ai and just do a low dose of enclo but yeah idk im still pretty retarded when it comes to this stuff. I'll look into SARMS but I'm also natural 800 test so maybe this is pointless and I just stick to my greycel protocol.

800 test is nothing compared to anabolic androgens if u're going to take sarms do not take sarm + enclo + ai, ditch the ai. good luck

 

[_Nazareth_]

Current protocol:
Accutane 80mg (4 months in: clear face)
Oral Min 2.5mg
Fin 1mg
About to finish BPC "cycle" for some tendon issues
I got a test lab and I'm at 800 natural at 19 which is pretty nice.

Enclomiphene: It pisses me off because every time I see someone ask about enclo everyone replies saying "bro just pin test". I'm convinced they are saying this because they fucked their natural production and want everyone to come down with them.
My close friend recently took enclo for 3 months: (12.5mg 2 days on 1 day off) and his test went from 550 to fucking 1900. He got no sides and over the next couple weeks it will just return to baseline if not stay a bit above.
This should be utilized for teens going through development because you can run a cycle and be a beast for a couple months without having to take test for the rest of your life. Not sure why its so underrated. Tell me if I'm retarded. I will be running 6.25mg EOD soon. Thoughts?

I am pretty set on running enclo especially bc I'm already taking shit to block estro and andro side effects. But I am also considering MK-677. I've already done research but I want some anecdotal or advice whether it would be worth. and please don't tell me to just take var. How grey was this post on a scale from 1-10

Don’t use mk for gh only just pin hgh. I personally use mk for appetite cuz im skinny af and sleep

 

[tokyo01010]

Current protocol:
Accutane 80mg (4 months in: clear face)
Oral Min 2.5mg
Fin 1mg
About to finish BPC "cycle" for some tendon issues
I got a test lab and I'm at 800 natural at 19 which is pretty nice.

Enclomiphene: It pisses me off because every time I see someone ask about enclo everyone replies saying "bro just pin test". I'm convinced they are saying this because they fucked their natural production and want everyone to come down with them.
My close friend recently took enclo for 3 months: (12.5mg 2 days on 1 day off) and his test went from 550 to fucking 1900. He got no sides and over the next couple weeks it will just return to baseline if not stay a bit above.
This should be utilized for teens going through development because you can run a cycle and be a beast for a couple months without having to take test for the rest of your life. Not sure why its so underrated. Tell me if I'm retarded. I will be running 6.25mg EOD soon. Thoughts?

I am pretty set on running enclo especially bc I'm already taking shit to block estro and andro side effects. But I am also considering MK-677. I've already done research but I want some anecdotal or advice whether it would be worth. and please don't tell me to just take var. How grey was this post on a scale from 1-10

yes i love using bbc 157 after getting my guts rearranges by a 6”8 tyrone with a 12 inch cock