cutecel (first post its over lol)

[asschili03]

This is my first post, I have posted a ton on TikTok and have been forum lurking for 3 years now (but recently registered here) . People have been telling me to "fix bloat/debloat" or whatever TikTok looksmaxx BS I have been recommended (Makes sense but debloat won't save me). I only know that the BP is true, I want to know my PSL which I assume is around 2-3 (4 if it wasn't a non-brootal rating JFL). If anyone has any softmaxx tips to go for, I am definitely going to take it to heart this time (I just want to know my baseline from the real community not TikTok posers). I would probably do filler or surgery for my nose/lip ratio and jaw, but I don't really care about PSL perfection ATM. I have been in this verse for so long idc too much about looking like Salludon or Pitt anymore, I just want to improve this time around. Just maximize for my pheno and archetype ( If I have to I might femboymaxx but it depends on if I become more mentally ill at this point). Thank you guys!

Note:
dea(Ethnic)
B&W Pic slightly posed (slight squint (sun) and B/W coloring)
Hair covering forehead

Ratios (pic from 2023 3-4 months in space (not .org registered yet) I think, I know I didn't improve much lol):
Midface: ~1.02


FWHR: ~1.8


Eyes WH (Avg): ~3.3-3.5


Facial Thirds: ~ (1.15+1.15+1.18)/(3.48) = 1.6


P/C: ~ 2.2 (Philtrum Chin)


Nose: ~ 1.39-1.4


RightEyeAngle/LeftEyeAngle: ~(10deg/7deg)

I'm giving myself around 2-6 months to fully deflate and depuff my facial fat (around estimated 32-37% body fat right now). Won't do any other things just facial analysis.

 

[atturki67]

Damn bro positive canthal tilt isn’t saving you unfortunately. Loose fat, looks like you have “some” bone mass

 

[atturki67]

Rn you are ltn

 

[asschili03]

Damn bro positive canthal tilt isn’t saving you unfortunately. Loose fat, looks like you have “some” bone mass

Ive heard this on my TikTok so many times, is my PCT that high? Don't really notice that even though Ive analyzed it. I think it's pseudo bonemass (from cheekbones) but my maxilla kills it (I'm asian without maxilla, I can provide a side from before I knew what BP was). Any other softmaxx that I can do that's not health wise *body fat? Like cosmetics or other enhancements? tt: alloutofburritos lying2eallystill

 

[asschili03]

Rn you are ltn

If I posted this in 22-23 before TikTok I would've been rated sub4 bro, u new here?

 

[atturki67]

Ive heard this on my TikTok so many times, is my PCT that high? Don't really notice that even though Ive analyzed it. I think it's pseudo bonemass (from cheekbones) but my maxilla kills it (I'm asian without maxilla, I can provide a side from before I knew what BP was). Any other softmaxx that I can do that's not health wise *body fat? Like cosmetics or other enhancements? tt: alloutofburritos lying2eallystill

Sleep on your back. Your jaw looks shifted to the left. And your left eyebrow looks also less dense than your right one

 

[atturki67]

If I posted this in 22-23 before TikTok I would've been rated sub4 bro, u new here?

What is sub 4 for you?

 

[debonss]

just lose fat man you look normal

 

[asschili03]

What is sub 4 for you?

anything that is ethnic, bad ratios, and fat. (ME)

 

[atturki67]

anything that is ethnic, bad ratios, and fat. (ME)

That’s why your fucking ltn under average

 

[asschili03]

Sleep on your back. Your jaw looks shifted to the left. And your left eyebrow looks also less dense than your right one

My whole asymmetry is on this side, I'm glad you peeped that. My right ear is hella bigger than my left, but my PFL and other soft tissue ratios are associated with it. I don't think I can change it by soft maxing lol, but ye it used to bug me a lot.

 

[schizowillascend]

This is my first post, I have posted a ton on TikTok and have been forum lurking for 3 years now (but recently registered here) . People have been telling me to "fix bloat/debloat" or whatever TikTok looksmaxx BS I have been recommended (Makes sense but debloat won't save me). I only know that the BP is true, I want to know my PSL which I assume is around 2-3 (4 if it wasn't a non-brootal rating JFL). If anyone has any softmaxx tips to go for, I am definitely going to take it to heart this time (I just want to know my baseline from the real community not TikTok posers). I would probably do filler or surgery for my nose/lip ratio and jaw, but I don't really care about PSL perfection ATM. I have been in this verse for so long idc too much about looking like Salludon or Pitt anymore, I just want to improve this time around. Just maximize for my pheno and archetype ( If I have to I might femboymaxx but it depends on if I become more mentally ill at this point). Thank you guys!

Note:
dea(Ethnic)
B&W Pic slightly posed (slight squint (sun) and B/W coloring)
Hair covering forehead

Ratios (pic from 2023 3-4 months in space (not .org registered yet) I think, I know I didn't improve much lol):
Midface: ~1.02


FWHR: ~1.8


Eyes WH (Avg): ~3.3-3.5


Facial Thirds: ~ (1.15+1.15+1.18)/(3.48) = 1.6


P/C: ~ 2.2 (Philtrum Chin)


Nose: ~ 1.39-1.4


RightEyeAngle/LeftEyeAngle: ~(10deg/7deg)

I'm giving myself around 2-6 months to fully deflate and depuff my facial fat (around estimated 32-37% body fat right now). Won't do any other things just facial analysis.

you are just fat , just lose weight

 

[asschili03]

That’s why your fucking ltn under average

If I lose weight and fat from 33 to 15% what would I potentially look like? Can you morph? I got as low as 17 before and I could start seeing hollows, but I looked like I had a disease/cancer.

 

[atturki67]

If I lose weight and fat from 33 to 15% what would I potentially look like? Can you morph? I got as low as 17 before and I could start seeing hollows, but I looked like I had a disease/cancer.

I have no idea bro. Can’t really see anything under fat. I can’t morph

 

[schizowillascend]

If I posted this in 22-23 before TikTok I would've been rated sub4 bro, u new here?

no one really uses PSL ratings anymore

its LTN 4-5/10
MTN 5-6/10
HTN 6-7/10

etc

you are probably low-mid LTN which is the bottom 20%

 

[schizowillascend]

If I lose weight and fat from 33 to 15% what would I potentially look like? Can you morph? I got as low as 17 before and I could start seeing hollows, but I looked like I had a disease/cancer.

you can't rly morph weight away , you need to see what ur bones and fat pad genetics are like

 

[asschili03]

I have no idea bro. Can’t really see anything under fat. I can’t morph

Fair, I think my cope here is bc "I don't like losing weight, it hurts" JFL

 

[temporomandibular32]

This is my first post, I have posted a ton on TikTok and have been forum lurking for 3 years now (but recently registered here) . People have been telling me to "fix bloat/debloat" or whatever TikTok looksmaxx BS I have been recommended (Makes sense but debloat won't save me). I only know that the BP is true, I want to know my PSL which I assume is around 2-3 (4 if it wasn't a non-brootal rating JFL). If anyone has any softmaxx tips to go for, I am definitely going to take it to heart this time (I just want to know my baseline from the real community not TikTok posers). I would probably do filler or surgery for my nose/lip ratio and jaw, but I don't really care about PSL perfection ATM. I have been in this verse for so long idc too much about looking like Salludon or Pitt anymore, I just want to improve this time around. Just maximize for my pheno and archetype ( If I have to I might femboymaxx but it depends on if I become more mentally ill at this point). Thank you guys!

Note:
dea(Ethnic)
B&W Pic slightly posed (slight squint (sun) and B/W coloring)
Hair covering forehead

Ratios (pic from 2023 3-4 months in space (not .org registered yet) I think, I know I didn't improve much lol):
Midface: ~1.02


FWHR: ~1.8


Eyes WH (Avg): ~3.3-3.5


Facial Thirds: ~ (1.15+1.15+1.18)/(3.48) = 1.6


P/C: ~ 2.2 (Philtrum Chin)


Nose: ~ 1.39-1.4


RightEyeAngle/LeftEyeAngle: ~(10deg/7deg)

I'm giving myself around 2-6 months to fully deflate and depuff my facial fat (around estimated 32-37% body fat right now). Won't do any other things just facial analysis.

Stop autistic measurements. Lose significant weight. Can’t even gauge attractiveness now. Good potential, not over

 

[asschili03]

no one really uses PSL ratings anymore

its LTN 4-5/10
MTN 5-6/10
HTN 6-7/10

etc

you are probably low-mid LTN which is the bottom 20%

the community has fallen off from real incel groups, they will crucify me soon enough though. I do think low LTN is fair bc I do get 6-7 woman telling me im attractive (not the TikTok users but IRL/Dating). But Im so far gone im definitely sub 4. Thanks for the update though.

 

[Ogionth]

Fair, I think my cope here is bc "I don't like losing weight, it hurts" JFL

it's over for u, 4 years of bp and u are built like fucking lizzo.

losing the weight is the biggest soft max and u couldnt do that in 4 years? u aren't blackpilled enough

 

[atturki67]

the community has fallen off from real incel groups, they will crucify me soon enough though. I do think low LTN is fair bc I do get 6-7 woman telling me im attractive (not the TikTok users but IRL/Dating). But Im so far gone im definitely sub 4. Thanks for the update though.

How the fuck you get girls fair enough I’m fucking autistic and anti social ig

 

[Ogionth]

the community has fallen off from real incel groups, they will crucify me soon enough though. I do think low LTN is fair bc I do get 6-7 woman telling me im attractive (not the TikTok users but IRL/Dating). But Im so far gone im definitely sub 4. Thanks for the update though.

u should be happy if even a dog finds u attractive let alone 7 girls.

LOSE the weight retard

 

[asschili03]

Stop autistic measurements. Lose significant weight. Can’t even gauge attractiveness now. Good potential, not over

big dawg, the ratios make me know im so far gone in the BP. Also love the ER ai edit (supremegent!).

 

[asschili03]

How the fuck you get girls fair enough I’m fucking autistic and anti social ig

Imma be deadass I go outside and act NT. even though I am not at all

 

[mrnut]

no one really uses PSL ratings anymore

its LTN 4-5/10
MTN 5-6/10
HTN 6-7/10

etc

you are probably low-mid LTN which is the bottom 20%

wht the top 20 th percentile of males

 

[asschili03]

u should be happy if even a dog finds u attractive let alone 7 girls.

LOSE the weight retard

You got any tips, I wanna do it fast but I know I will get loose skin, but I want to slay all the LTBs before I become saint hamudi

 

[asschili03]

wht the top 20 th percentile of males

Probably like Pitt, Depp, and Dicaprio in their primes, PSL wise though maybe like Chico, Opry, Barrett, and Gandy (idk about 90s models like Cam and Tyson Ballou).

 

[schizowillascend]

wht the top 20 th percentile of males

i think 5.9 is top 20%
6/10 is top 18%

 

[mrnut]

i think 5.9 is top 20%
6/10 is top 18%

so negoids just have to be htn+ and they are set in life

 

[asschili03]

so negoids just have to be htn+ and they are set in life

tf is a negoid

 

[asschili03]

you can't rly morph weight away , you need to see what ur bones and fat pad genetics are like

that's true, I mean from all the anecdotal conversations and replies on social media I have been told I have a decent-good base. would be good to actually LOCK IN and Looksmaxx and not goon bait on forums.

 

[-=t3rm1n4t0r_2005=-]

nigga got so focused on retarded ratios he forgot to cut

 

[-=t3rm1n4t0r_2005=-]

If I lose weight and fat from 33 to 15% what would I potentially look like? Can you morph? I got as low as 17 before and I could start seeing hollows, but I looked like I had a disease/cancer.

probably lost too much weight too quickly.

 

[asschili03]

probably lost too much weight too quickly.

No I don’t have loose skin I know it will if I do it quickly tho but I need to

 

[BrahimKine]

This is my first post, I have posted a ton on TikTok and have been forum lurking for 3 years now (but recently registered here) . People have been telling me to "fix bloat/debloat" or whatever TikTok looksmaxx BS I have been recommended (Makes sense but debloat won't save me). I only know that the BP is true, I want to know my PSL which I assume is around 2-3 (4 if it wasn't a non-brootal rating JFL). If anyone has any softmaxx tips to go for, I am definitely going to take it to heart this time (I just want to know my baseline from the real community not TikTok posers). I would probably do filler or surgery for my nose/lip ratio and jaw, but I don't really care about PSL perfection ATM. I have been in this verse for so long idc too much about looking like Salludon or Pitt anymore, I just want to improve this time around. Just maximize for my pheno and archetype ( If I have to I might femboymaxx but it depends on if I become more mentally ill at this point). Thank you guys!

Note:
dea(Ethnic)
B&W Pic slightly posed (slight squint (sun) and B/W coloring)
Hair covering forehead

Ratios (pic from 2023 3-4 months in space (not .org registered yet) I think, I know I didn't improve much lol):
Midface: ~1.02


FWHR: ~1.8


Eyes WH (Avg): ~3.3-3.5


Facial Thirds: ~ (1.15+1.15+1.18)/(3.48) = 1.6


P/C: ~ 2.2 (Philtrum Chin)


Nose: ~ 1.39-1.4


RightEyeAngle/LeftEyeAngle: ~(10deg/7deg)

I'm giving myself around 2-6 months to fully deflate and depuff my facial fat (around estimated 32-37% body fat right now). Won't do any other things just facial analysis.

What was your harmony score

 

[Klasik616]

Wide face cel

 

[asschili03]

What was your harmony score

Umm idk that’s what I’m tryna figure out since it’s a rating thread but I assume 60-70% just off the ratios

 

[BrahimKine]

Umm idk that’s what I’m tryna figure out since it’s a rating thread but I assume 60-70% just off the ratios

Check pms real quick

 

[asschili03]

Wide face cel

My FWHR is around 1.8-1.9 and Short Skull Face Height to Width is like 1.3.

 

[asschili03]

Check pms real quick

I’m retarded idk what button that is, is it the mail icon? My first dive into forum conversations

 

[BrahimKine]

I’m retarded idk what button that is, is it the mail icon? My first dive into forum conversations

Yeah its the mail button

 

[Klasik616]

My FWHR is around 1.8-1.9 and Short Skull Face Height to Width is like 1.3.

Ratios are cope
If you're abo with perfect ratios you're still abo
About wide face see this thread asap:

What a "wide head" actually is

Is not the size, and (surprisingly) not the shape. It's the measured distance between zygos and gonions Normal FWHR but face still feels wide asf If you draw a line in her gonions, the first pic will be curved while the second one will be straight. my head kinda looks like this but not this...

looksmax.org

You look bloated, your gonions shape is bad and your eyes shape are not good. who cares about negative or positive canthal tilt when you are lacking in terms of appeal, ratios is not the way people tell someone is attractive.

 

[asschili03]

Ratios are cope
If you're abo with perfect ratios you're still abo
About wide face see this thread asap:

What a "wide head" actually is

Is not the size, and (surprisingly) not the shape. It's the measured distance between zygos and gonions Normal FWHR but face still feels wide asf If you draw a line in her gonions, the first pic will be curved while the second one will be straight. my head kinda looks like this but not this...

looksmax.org

You look bloated, your gonions shape is bad and your eyes shape are not good. who cares about negative or positive canthal tilt when you are lacking in terms of appeal, ratios is not the way people tell someone is attractive.

I mean I agree. I don’t talk to women and tell them my ratios are pretty good. They just call me hot. But in terms of BP I would say I got good ratios, my gonion is inward and I am bloated/fat however you put it. I would prefer hunter eyes but I got decent almond shape but the eyelid exposure is slightly excessive at the angle of the pictures. Appeal maxing is meta in 2025 I guess, in 2022 it was the opposite.

 

[Klasik616]

I mean I agree. I don’t talk to women and tell them my ratios are pretty good. They just call me hot. But in terms of BP I would say I got good ratios, my gonion is inward and I am bloated/fat however you put it. I would prefer hunter eyes but I got decent almond shape but the eyelid exposure is slightly excessive at the angle of the pictures. Appeal maxing is meta in 2025 I guess, in 2022 it was the opposite.

No girls would like to have sex with you by seeing your face, that's the definition of cutecel (not bad looking but lack of dimorphism). And appeal was always the answer, if it wasn't then every race could have mogger Chads because there's always someone with good ratios. In my opinion, aesthetics is more about facial features and skull shape. If your features are ethnic, it's over. If your face shape is round, it's over.

 

[asschili03]

No girls would like to have sex with you by seeing your face, that's the definition of cutecel (not bad looking but lack of dimorphism). And appeal was always the answer, if it wasn't then every race could have mogger Chads because there's always someone with good ratios. In my opinion, aesthetics is more about facial features and skull shape. If your features are ethnic, it's over. If your face shape is round, it's over.

I am quite androgynous. Would like to increase my testosterone, but idk if I’m doing BP stuff for women attraction, I get enough (albeit MTBs). The last portion seems racist but I do agree to an extent the ethnic pill is a big failo and nerf. If you can show me around to a softmax testerone guide plz share thanks

 

[CevapiMaxxer]

This is my first post, I have posted a ton on TikTok and have been forum lurking for 3 years now (but recently registered here) . People have been telling me to "fix bloat/debloat" or whatever TikTok looksmaxx BS I have been recommended (Makes sense but debloat won't save me). I only know that the BP is true, I want to know my PSL which I assume is around 2-3 (4 if it wasn't a non-brootal rating JFL). If anyone has any softmaxx tips to go for, I am definitely going to take it to heart this time (I just want to know my baseline from the real community not TikTok posers). I would probably do filler or surgery for my nose/lip ratio and jaw, but I don't really care about PSL perfection ATM. I have been in this verse for so long idc too much about looking like Salludon or Pitt anymore, I just want to improve this time around. Just maximize for my pheno and archetype ( If I have to I might femboymaxx but it depends on if I become more mentally ill at this point). Thank you guys!

Note:
dea(Ethnic)
B&W Pic slightly posed (slight squint (sun) and B/W coloring)
Hair covering forehead

Ratios (pic from 2023 3-4 months in space (not .org registered yet) I think, I know I didn't improve much lol):
Midface: ~1.02


FWHR: ~1.8


Eyes WH (Avg): ~3.3-3.5


Facial Thirds: ~ (1.15+1.15+1.18)/(3.48) = 1.6


P/C: ~ 2.2 (Philtrum Chin)


Nose: ~ 1.39-1.4


RightEyeAngle/LeftEyeAngle: ~(10deg/7deg)

I'm giving myself around 2-6 months to fully deflate and depuff my facial fat (around estimated 32-37% body fat right now). Won't do any other things just facial analysis.

LTN atm, cardiomax to decrease bf and lose fat. after that try to get a rating again

 

[asschili03]

LTN atm, cardiomax to decrease bf and lose fat. after that try to get a rating again

Sounds like a plan

 

[manletprince]

This is my first post, I have posted a ton on TikTok and have been forum lurking for 3 years now (but recently registered here) . People have been telling me to "fix bloat/debloat" or whatever TikTok looksmaxx BS I have been recommended (Makes sense but debloat won't save me). I only know that the BP is true, I want to know my PSL which I assume is around 2-3 (4 if it wasn't a non-brootal rating JFL). If anyone has any softmaxx tips to go for, I am definitely going to take it to heart this time (I just want to know my baseline from the real community not TikTok posers). I would probably do filler or surgery for my nose/lip ratio and jaw, but I don't really care about PSL perfection ATM. I have been in this verse for so long idc too much about looking like Salludon or Pitt anymore, I just want to improve this time around. Just maximize for my pheno and archetype ( If I have to I might femboymaxx but it depends on if I become more mentally ill at this point). Thank you guys!

Note:
dea(Ethnic)
B&W Pic slightly posed (slight squint (sun) and B/W coloring)
Hair covering forehead

Ratios (pic from 2023 3-4 months in space (not .org registered yet) I think, I know I didn't improve much lol):
Midface: ~1.02


FWHR: ~1.8


Eyes WH (Avg): ~3.3-3.5


Facial Thirds: ~ (1.15+1.15+1.18)/(3.48) = 1.6


P/C: ~ 2.2 (Philtrum Chin)


Nose: ~ 1.39-1.4


RightEyeAngle/LeftEyeAngle: ~(10deg/7deg)

I'm giving myself around 2-6 months to fully deflate and depuff my facial fat (around estimated 32-37% body fat right now). Won't do any other things just facial analysis.

u look kind of scary. mogs me though

 

[Mossicg]

Crazy tilt tho

 

[lurking truecel]

People do anything before losing fat, your math equations and ratios will not meake you lean bloat fatso