Cutting detrimental to Testosterone?

[DeepStretchAlfie.]

I have recently been on a cut of which I have lost 14kg over 3 months. As you may have gathered this wasn’t a clean cut and it was give or take- starvation.

It was not until after it was brought unto my attention that cutting CAN lower testosterone if done wrong.

There has been multiple studies that show this and I was bringing it to peoples attention not to cut diabolically especially if a teen like me.

Is there any way I can rebuild this test to prior to the cut and perhaps even better? thanks.

 

[pslgod69]

being in a caloric deficit signals your body that it's under stress. stress raises cortisol, which is bad for testosterone

 

[DeepStretchAlfie.]

being in a caloric deficit signals your body that it's under stress. stress raises cortisol, which is bad for testosterone

so in theory not being in a caloric deficit or perhaps rather a surplus may raise it instead because of the cortisol?

 

[pslgod69]

so in theory not being in a caloric deficit or perhaps rather a surplus may raise it instead because of the cortisol?

true. but if your'e cutting, keep the calorie deficit moderate, around 15% deficit. this minimises stress.

i must say 14 kg in 3 months is impressive though

 

[crashing]

Its only a major problem for ur test if you start getting below like 8-10% body fat depending on ur body, i cut to 8% recently and testosterone was fine, slightly lower tho

 

[xela2008]

so in theory not being in a caloric deficit or perhaps rather a surplus may raise it instead because of the cortisol?

Yes it suppresses your testosterone end of question.

 

[lowiqcel__.]

I have recently been on a cut of which I have lost 14kg over 3 months. As you may have gathered this wasn’t a clean cut and it was give or take- starvation.

It was not until after it was brought unto my attention that cutting CAN lower testosterone if done wrong.

There has been multiple studies that show this and I was bringing it to peoples attention not to cut diabolically especially if a teen like me.

Is there any way I can rebuild this test to prior to the cut and perhaps even better? thanks.

Just check your grip strength, if its getting lower or whatever then your t is getting lower also

 

[DeepStretchAlfie.]

true. but if your'e cutting, keep the calorie deficit moderate, around 15% deficit. this minimises stress.

i must say 14 kg in 3 months is impressive though

yeah well I have the records for it but I missed a month but I’m pretty sure not a lot changed

 

[DeepStretchAlfie.]

Yes it suppresses your testosterone end of question.

I understand thanks

 

[xela2008]

yeah well I have the records for it but I missed a month but I’m pretty sure not a lot changed View attachment 3995449

That's not 3 months lol

 

[DeepStretchAlfie.]

That's not 3 months lol

Yeah like I said I missed some months but I doubt alot really changed.

 

[pslgod69]

yeah well I have the records for it but I missed a month but I’m pretty sure not a lot changed View attachment 3995449

nice, keep it going

 

[DeepStretchAlfie.]

nice, keep it going

thank you man, although I’m going to try a slight surplus

 

[aids]

Its only a major problem for ur test if you start getting below like 8-10% body fat depending on ur body, i cut to 8% recently and testosterone was fine, slightly lower tho

People like you will say this shit but not actually provide bloodwork and go completely off of "how do i feel" in deciding whether or not your testosterone was actually lower. Stop using arbitrary anecdotes (literally the worst variation of the worst type of evidence) for OP's reference, you are just misleading people.

Just check your grip strength, if its getting lower or whatever then your t is getting lower also

Again completely irrespective of anything else and another arbitrary qualitative for whether or not somebody has lower testosterone.

IT IS A FACT that if you are at a higher BF%, you will have more aromatase activity (aromatase is highly expressed in fat), so the body will consequently produce more testosterone to compensate for the increased aromatisation. This means your TOTAL TESTOSTERONE WILL BE HIGHER but NOT NECESSARILY YOUR FREE TESTOSTERONE. Cutting, irrespective of any other habits, is going to lower total testosterone, whether you cut unhealthily or healthily.
Any of you fucking idiots that mislead people with your shitty anecdotes should not be posting on these types of threads.

Dumb fucking question too. If you were so concerned, get bloodwork done to see where you're at instead of trying to get people to give you the green flag for your shitty decisions.

 

[DeepStretchAlfie.]

People like you will say this shit but not actually provide bloodwork and go completely off of "how do i feel" in deciding whether or not your testosterone was actually lower. Stop using arbitrary anecdotes (literally the worst variation of the worst type of evidence) for OP's reference, you are just misleading people.


Again completely irrespective of anything else and another arbitrary qualitative for whether or not somebody has lower testosterone.

IT IS A FACT that if you are at a higher BF%, you will have more aromatase activity (aromatase is highly expressed in fat), so the body will consequently produce more testosterone to compensate for the increased aromatisation. This means your TOTAL TESTOSTERONE WILL BE HIGHER but NOT NECESSARILY YOUR FREE TESTOSTERONE. Cutting, irrespective of any other habits, is going to lower total testosterone, whether you cut unhealthily or healthily.
Any of you fucking idiots that mislead people with your shitty anecdotes should not be posting on these types of threads.

Dumb fucking question too. If you were so concerned, get bloodwork done to see where you're at instead of trying to get people to give you the green flag for your shitty decisions.

I appreciate this, thank you for straight facts. I’d mark you as a solution I’m not sure how though m.

 

[crashing]

People like you will say this shit but not actually provide bloodwork and go completely off of "how do i feel" in deciding whether or not your testosterone was actually lower. Stop using arbitrary anecdotes (literally the worst variation of the worst type of evidence) for OP's reference, you are just misleading people.


Again completely irrespective of anything else and another arbitrary qualitative for whether or not somebody has lower testosterone.

IT IS A FACT that if you are at a higher BF%, you will have more aromatase activity (aromatase is highly expressed in fat), so the body will consequently produce more testosterone to compensate for the increased aromatisation. This means your TOTAL TESTOSTERONE WILL BE HIGHER but NOT NECESSARILY YOUR FREE TESTOSTERONE. Cutting, irrespective of any other habits, is going to lower total testosterone, whether you cut unhealthily or healthily.
Any of you fucking idiots that mislead people with your shitty anecdotes should not be posting on these types of threads.

Dumb fucking question too. If you were so concerned, get bloodwork done to see where you're at instead of trying to get people to give you the green flag for your shitty decisions.

It will lower test, not denying that, but i’m saying in most people, its not going to be a significant problem if you stay above 8-10% body fat. Only when you go below that does it start to drop significantly.

 

[DeepStretchAlfie.]

Its only a major problem for ur test if you start getting below like 8-10% body fat depending on ur body, i cut to 8% recently and testosterone was fine, slightly lower tho

hard to tell really I think I’m at 12-15 atm. I’m seeing veins on my and bicep etc.

 

[crashing]

hard to tell really I think I’m at 12-15 atm. I’m seeing veins on my and bicep etc.

Its hard to tell honestly there really isnt like a 100% accurate way to tell, just keep track of how you look each week.
when you start getting to 10 and below you might start seeing veins below ur abs and just more vascularity in general, abs get really defined, etc

 

[aids]

I appreciate this, thank you for straight facts. I’d mark you as a solution I’m not sure how though m.

You can't mark as a solution on the Looksmaxing subforum, only Looksmaxing questions.
Anything people tell you here isn't going to give you an answer. Only thing you can do is get bloodwork to see what your testosterone levels are, but unless you have a reference for your total and free testosterone before you lost weight, you will just be guessing how they've changed. It likely is just that your total testosterone is lower but free testosterone (what matters) is higher unless you are borderline-anorexic.

It will lower test, not denying that, but i’m saying in most people, its not going to be a significant problem if you stay above 8-10% body fat. Only when you go below that does it start to drop significantly.

Its only a major problem for ur test if you start getting below like 8-10% body fat depending on ur body, i cut to 8% recently and testosterone was fine, slightly lower tho

Another fucking pseudointellectual retard that thinks he can somehow justify himself with anecdotes. Your reasoning for what particular body fat percentage your testosterone "will start to drop significantly" lacks any basis.
Unless you had a fucking DEXA scan to confirm your BF% (you didn't!) then you're guessing.
Fucking retard provides an arbitrary anecdote, I say how it's irrelevant to OP what happened to him, and he provides me with further clarification as to his arbitrary anecdote. JFL.

I appreciate this, thank you for straight facts. I’d mark you as a solution I’m not sure how though m.

JFL cunt will appreciate me but rep the retards with their shit answers. Okay

 

[DeepStretchAlfie.]

Yeah that’s a problem atm I see veins to the lower right of my abs yet my abs aren’t exactly popping atm

Its hard to tell honestly there really isnt like a 100% accurate way to tell, just keep track of how you look each week.
when you start getting to 10 and below you might start seeing veins below ur abs and just more vascularity in general, abs get really defined, etc

 

[aids]

Its hard to tell honestly there really isnt like a 100% accurate way to tell, just keep track of how you look each week.
when you start getting to 10 and below you might start seeing veins below ur abs and just more vascularity in general, abs get really defined, etc

Unless you had a fucking DEXA scan to confirm your BF% (you didn't!) then you're guessing.

Confirms my suspicions. What a dumbass.

 

[DeepStretchAlfie.]

You can't mark as a solution on the Looksmaxing subforum, only Looksmaxing questions.
Anything people tell you here isn't going to give you an answer. Only thing you can do is get bloodwork to see what your testosterone levels are, but unless you have a reference for your total and free testosterone before you lost weight, you will just be guessing how they've changed. It likely is just that your total testosterone is lower but free testosterone (what matters) is higher unless you are borderline-anorexic.



Another fucking pseudointellectual retard that thinks he can somehow justify himself with anecdotes. Your reasoning for what particular body fat percentage your testosterone "will start to drop significantly" lacks any basis.
Unless you had a fucking DEXA scan to confirm your BF% (you didn't!) then you're guessing.
Fucking retard provides an arbitrary anecdote, I say how it's irrelevant to OP what happened to him, and he provides me with further clarification as to his arbitrary anecdote. JFL.


JFL cunt will appreciate me but rep the retards with their shit answers. Okay

Alright I appreciate it.

 

[DeepStretchAlfie.]

Confirms my suspicions. What a dumbass.

Lmao

 

[jawlineonvacation]

I have recently been on a cut of which I have lost 14kg over 3 months. As you may have gathered this wasn’t a clean cut and it was give or take- starvation.

It was not until after it was brought unto my attention that cutting CAN lower testosterone if done wrong.

There has been multiple studies that show this and I was bringing it to peoples attention not to cut diabolically especially if a teen like me.

Is there any way I can rebuild this test to prior to the cut and perhaps even better? thanks.

no you can NEVER rebuild test, i recommend going to the nearest black person and shoot them in the head as a coping mechanism

 

[DeepStretchAlfie.]

no you can NEVER rebuild test, i recommend going to the nearest black person and shoot them in the head as a coping mechanism

Mission unclear I killed a thug and now everyone is talking about some BLM nonsense even though he died of drugs and not from the police ‍♀

 

[jawlineonvacation]

Mission unclear I killed a thug and now everyone is talking about some BLM nonsense even though he died of drugs and not from the police ‍♀

Shoot the people who are saying blm

 

[DeepStretchAlfie.]

Shoot the people who are saying blm

Easy fix welcome to Rhodesia

 

[jawlineonvacation]

Easy fix welcome to Rhodesia

lol