Cycle Advice? Roidcels GTFIH

[acromegalic]

Hi, I'm 16.75 years old, 140lbs, 5'10. My main goals for this cycle are to increase my height and dimorphism. Please lmk what I should change and/or any of your personal anecdotes from similar cycles.

The current cycle is drafted as such:
300mg test cyp (75mg EOD)
12.5mg aromasin EOD
8iu HGH Nightly
250iu HCG EOD

This will be run for 20+ weeks, then I will undergo PCT for 1-3 months.

Spoiler: PCT

12.5mg Enclomiphine ED
20mg Tamoxifen ED

Ancillaries will also be used for the duration of cycle.

Spoiler: Ancillaries/Supplements

3g fish oil ED
5g creatine ED
Topical minox 2xED
5mg tadalafil preworkout (basically ED)
... and some misc. vitamins, as well as a thyroid support supp which I have already been using

I will ofc also have diet and training dialed. Thanks for reading and providing any insight in the replies!

Note: this is a repost from my previous thread because I didn't gain any insight. It includes some extra detail, if you're interested.

 

[illusion]

There is absolutely no cycle that can "increase your height" past genetic limiters, oral minox is also not enough to stop hair loss on a cycle if you are even moderately sensitive to DHT. Take a DNA test and check your vulnerability to it. If you are, order fin or dut.

 

[acromegalic]

There is absolutely no cycle that can "increase your height" past genetic limiters, oral minox is also not enough to stop hair loss on a cycle if you are even moderately sensitive to DHT. Take a DNA test and check your vulnerability to it. If you are, order fin or dut.

I've seen good results with GH alone, but I do agree to some extent about genetic limits; admittedly there is some element of wishful thinking here since there has recently been diminishing results w/ GH. I'm not looking to take systemic DHT blockers because of this cycle's emphasis on gaining dimo, but I will keep some dut on hand since anything is better than norwood. Might look into RU58841 also.

 

[illusion]

I've seen good results with GH alone, but I do agree to some extent about genetic limits; admittedly there is some element of wishful thinking here since there has recently been diminishing results w/ GH. I'm not looking to take systemic DHT blockers because of this cycle's emphasis on gaining dimo, but I will keep some dut on hand since anything is better than norwood. Might look into RU58841 also.

RU is not super reliable, it works for some people and not others. There is however a better topical DHT blocker coming out next year if you're willing to wait that long.

https://www.dermatologytimes.com/view/clascoterone-5-delivers-strong-phase-3-hair-growth-results <-- delivers 539% hair growth and only blocks DHT on hair.

Where are you sourcing your HGH from?

 

[ccwb]

RU is not super reliable, it works for some people and not others. There is however a better topical DHT blocker coming out next year if you're willing to wait that long.

https://www.dermatologytimes.com/view/clascoterone-5-delivers-strong-phase-3-hair-growth-results <-- delivers 539% hair growth and only blocks DHT on hair.

Where are you sourcing your HGH from?

What u think the testosterone daily dosage would be good for dimorphism 14yr? 200-250mg weekly?

 

[acromegalic]

RU is not super reliable, it works for some people and not others. There is however a better topical DHT blocker coming out next year if you're willing to wait that long.

https://www.dermatologytimes.com/view/clascoterone-5-delivers-strong-phase-3-hair-growth-results <-- delivers 539% hair growth and only blocks DHT on hair.

Where are you sourcing your HGH from?

Def won't postpone the cycle, may just chance it with RU+minox for the time being. Thanks for making me aware about the upcoming topical tho, sounds promising. GH is from greymarket suppliers, I've gone through a few sources atp.

 

[illusion]

What u think the testosterone daily dosage would be good for dimorphism 14yr? 200-250mg weekly?

250mg is the max amount of test you should ever take, I wouldn't take it at 14 as your dimo is just barely started coming in and it can always be gained later and if you do test now you have a fair shot at overshooting and looking like a 30yr old ogre.

 

[ccwb]

250mg is the max amount of test you should ever take, I wouldn't take it at 14 as your dimo is just barely started coming in and it can always be gained later and if you do test now you have a fair shot at overshooting and looking like a 30yr old ogre.

But clav started at 14, and he looks pretty decent tho

 

[acromegalic]

What u think the testosterone daily dosage would be good for dimorphism 14yr? 200-250mg weekly?

I'm no doctor but 150-200 sounds about right... be cautious at your age. Daily administration would be ideal for minimizing fluctuations; could do EOD with a longer esther. Make sure to manage sides tho and be extremely careful as your HPTA, among other things, may not be fully developed.

 

[illusion]

Def won't postpone the cycle, may just chance it with RU+minox for the time being. Thanks for making me aware about the upcoming topical tho, sounds promising. GH is from greymarket suppliers, I've gone through sources atp.

Could you dm me the supplier if you don't mind? I've had trouble with sourcing HGH for months since it's harder to find at a decent price than most anabolics.

 

[acromegalic]

Could you dm me the supplier if you don't mind? I've had trouble with sourcing HGH for months since it's harder to find at a decent price than most anabolics.

igu bro, PM me.

 

[ccwb]

I'm no doctor but 150-200 sounds about right... be cautious at your age. Daily administration would be ideal for minimizing fluctuations; could do EOD with a longer esther. Make sure to manage sides tho and be extremely careful as your HPTA, among other things, may not be fully developed.

Really scared bruh I know the effects and the commitment I need to do, I already checked my testosterone last year it was about 743ng I think, but I think I need 1000+ng for better results

 

[acromegalic]

Really scared bruh I know the effects and the commitment I need to do, I already checked my testosterone last year it was about 743ng I think, but I think I need 1000+ng for better results

If you feel apprehensive about it, there's no harm in waiting and doing more research at your age. If anything, just run HGH and its likely you'll see some vertical growth. You can add in some vitamins and supplements too, no real risk.

 

[illusion]

Really scared bruh I know the effects and the commitment I need to do, I already checked my testosterone last year it was about 743ng I think, but I think I need 1000+ng for better results

You're a kid dude you shouldn't be doing anabolics in general. Clav did anabolics because clav is a low inhib sociopath who didn't care about his health or anything into the future. Your test is currently high as you're going through puberty, save the higher risk things for later.

https://looksmax.org/threads/the-ul...d-growth-factors-and-how-to-apply-them.97140/

^ Above is a BOTB Pubertymaxxing guide, look into it and it'll ascend you until you're out of puberty.

 

[acromegalic]

You're a kid dude you shouldn't be doing anabolics in general. Clav did anabolics because clav is a low inhib sociopath who didn't care about his health or anything into the future. Your test is currently high as you're going through puberty, save the higher risk things for later.

https://looksmax.org/threads/the-ul...d-growth-factors-and-how-to-apply-them.97140/

^ Above is a BOTB Pubertymaxxing guide, look into it and it'll ascend you until you're out of puberty.

agreed. I used to like clav's youtube stuff when I was first getting into ts but now he's hella jester and his wide reach has quite a negative influence on the jits that watch him.

 

[ccwb]

agreed. I used to like clav's youtube stuff when I was first getting into ts but now he's hella jester and his wide reach has quite a negative influence on the jits that watch him.

Definitely. My brother is a medical students I talked to him about this stuff he js said what clav is doing is js low iq and don’t know what he’s doing and he said don’t do this shit not now not even later but I think he’s js caring for me since he’s older than me

 

[acromegalic]

Definitely. My brother is a medical students I talked to him about this stuff he js said what clav is doing is js low iq and don’t know what he’s doing and he said don’t do this shit not now not even later but I think he’s js caring for me since he’s older than me

I mean pharmacology does have a lot of potential to improve one's life, but you should listen to your brother and those who care about you over some random on the internet jfl. I'd be lying if i said i wasnt mirin clavs comeup tho

 

[tomahawk]

250mg is the max amount of test you should ever take

Who let this guy in here? @Orka @foidletslayer jfl with me

 

[ccwb]

I mean pharmacology does have a lot of potential to improve one's life, but you should listen to your brother and those who care about you over some random on the internet jfl. I'd be lying if i said i wasnt mirin clavs comeup tho

Yes he did change, it obviously does change, but the bigger downside is will it be worth it in few years? Might aswell skip strong shit like this hop on minimal shit like Accutane and gh

 

[illusion]

Who let this guy in here? @Orka @foidletslayer jfl with me

jfl is 250 test not the most you should ever take for a first cycle?

 

[tomahawk]

jfl is 250 test not the most you should ever take for a first cycle?

Please someone castrate this nigger

 

[acromegalic]

Yes he did change, it obviously does change, but the bigger downside is will it be worth it in few years? Might aswell skip strong shit like this hop on minimal shit like Accutane and gh

Anabolics, like any drug, have their merits. It really just comes down to one's willingness to accept risk and put in their due diligence to mitigate sides. For your case I'd stay natty until you've gained more understanding and are a little more developed. If you fuck up with such a high risk compound at your age it could be catastrophic.

 

[ccwb]

Anabolics, like any drug, have their merits. It really just comes down to one's willingness to accept risk and put in their due diligence to mitigate sides. For your case I'd stay natty until you've gained more understanding and are a little more developed. If you fuck up with such a high risk compound at your age it could be catastrophic.

Rep me bhai

 

[acromegalic]

Please someone castrate this nigger

yo you got any input for the cycle bro? whats ur opinion

 

[illusion]

Please someone castrate this nigger

mirin high iq user

 

[acromegalic]

Rep me bhai

gotchu

 

[tomahawk]

yo you got any input for the cycle bro? whats ur opinion

Don't do aromasin on so little test, only on 400mg+
And wait a little, I see no reason in running test and gh at the same time, don't do test until plates closed and when they do close don't run gh
Don't forget ur bloodwork

 

[acromegalic]

Don't do aromasin on so little test, only on 400mg+
And wait a little, I see no reason in running test and gh at the same time, don't do test until plates closed and when they do close don't run gh
Don't forget ur bloodwork

Yeah u have a point about waiting for growth plate closure, I assume because of the ARs role in senescence? My thinking behind running GH alongside Test was for improved IGF1 signaling, but this would be moot if my plates were closed. Thanks for the advice.

 

[0ptimized]

Hi, I'm 16.75 years old, 140lbs, 5'10. My main goals for this cycle are to increase my height and dimorphism. Please lmk what I should change and/or any of your personal anecdotes from similar cycles.

The current cycle is drafted as such:
300mg test cyp (75mg EOD)
12.5mg aromasin EOD
8iu HGH Nightly
250iu HCG EOD

This will be run for 20+ weeks, then I will undergo PCT for 1-3 months.

Spoiler: PCT

12.5mg Enclomiphine ED
20mg Tamoxifen ED

Ancillaries will also be used for the duration of cycle.

Spoiler: Ancillaries/Supplements

3g fish oil ED
5g creatine ED
Topical minox 2xED
5mg tadalafil preworkout (basically ED)
... and some misc. vitamins, as well as a thyroid support supp which I have already been using

I will ofc also have diet and training dialed. Thanks for reading and providing any insight in the replies!

Note: this is a repost from my previous thread because I didn't gain any insight. It includes some extra detail, if you're interested.

pretty sure that high dosage of testosterone will rape your growth plates and height, gotta up the aromasin dose atleast

 

[acromegalic]

pretty sure that high dosage of testosterone will rape your growth plates and height, gotta up the aromasin dose atleast

Yeah, 300 is probably too high considering idrc about growing muscle and am moreso interested in improving my frame. I’m currently cruising on 150-200t (50mg eod), 8iu gh, 6.25 asin so i may just stick to that until my plates fuse

 

[0ptimized]

Yeah, 300 is probably too high considering idrc about growing muscle and am moreso interested in improving my frame. I’m currently cruising on 150-200t (50mg eod), 8iu gh, 6.25 asin so i may just stick to that until my plates fuse

add some DHT, up the gh and up the aromasin, imo but you do you g

 

[acromegalic]

add some DHT, up the gh and up the aromasin, imo but you do you g

thanks for the input. what dht derivatives do you suggest? i’ve only looked into masteron but i haven’t heard the greatest things..

 

[0ptimized]

thanks for the input. what dht derivatives do you suggest? i’ve only looked into masteron but i haven’t heard the greatest things..

Proviron or anavar for the huzz

 

[acromegalic]

Proviron or anavar for the huzz

5mg var sounds pretty nice ngl.. preciate the advice bro

 

[0ptimized]

5mg var sounds pretty nice ngl.. preciate the advice bro

no worries g, I'm personally on da 5mg var and think i might add Proviron to the stack aswell

 

[acromegalic]

no worries g, I'm personally on da 5mg var and think i might add Proviron to the stack aswell

fire bro, how’s the var been? also lmk how proviron goes if u end up adding it

 

[mrz_selgr]

Hi, I'm 16.75 years old, 140lbs, 5'10. My main goals for this cycle are to increase my height and dimorphism. Please lmk what I should change and/or any of your personal anecdotes from similar cycles.

The current cycle is drafted as such:
300mg test cyp (75mg EOD)
12.5mg aromasin EOD
8iu HGH Nightly
250iu HCG EOD

This will be run for 20+ weeks, then I will undergo PCT for 1-3 months.

Spoiler: PCT

12.5mg Enclomiphine ED
20mg Tamoxifen ED

Ancillaries will also be used for the duration of cycle.

Spoiler: Ancillaries/Supplements

3g fish oil ED
5g creatine ED
Topical minox 2xED
5mg tadalafil preworkout (basically ED)
... and some misc. vitamins, as well as a thyroid support supp which I have already been using

I will ofc also have diet and training dialed. Thanks for reading and providing any insight in the replies!

Note: this is a repost from my previous thread because I didn't gain any insight. It includes some extra detail, if you're interested.

16.75 and increase height in the same sentence. Imma hold your hand for this one

 

[acromegalic]

16.75 and increase height in the same sentence. Imma hold your hand for this one

but muh hgh tho...

 

[bigburritos]

Really scared bruh I know the effects and the commitment I need to do, I already checked my testosterone last year it was about 743ng I think, but I think I need 1000+ng for better results

how did you get your test checked at 14

 

[ccwb]

how did you get your test checked at 14

Blood test

 

[handsomeasshole52]

Hi, I'm 16.75 years old, 140lbs, 5'10. My main goals for this cycle are to increase my height and dimorphism. Please lmk what I should change and/or any of your personal anecdotes from similar cycles.

The current cycle is drafted as such:
300mg test cyp (75mg EOD)
12.5mg aromasin EOD
8iu HGH Nightly
250iu HCG EOD

This will be run for 20+ weeks, then I will undergo PCT for 1-3 months.

Spoiler: PCT

12.5mg Enclomiphine ED
20mg Tamoxifen ED

Ancillaries will also be used for the duration of cycle.

Spoiler: Ancillaries/Supplements

3g fish oil ED
5g creatine ED
Topical minox 2xED
5mg tadalafil preworkout (basically ED)
... and some misc. vitamins, as well as a thyroid support supp which I have already been using

I will ofc also have diet and training dialed. Thanks for reading and providing any insight in the replies!

Note: this is a repost from my previous thread because I didn't gain any insight. It includes some extra detail, if you're interested.

I wouldn’t run test unless you plan to run it for life. You’re too young. Might stunt your growth. Id just run GH until you’re 20 then add the other stuff, maybe Masteron on top

 

[0ptimized]

fire bro, how’s the var been? also lmk how proviron goes if u end up adding it

var been okay so far, i mean its a pretty low dose so not any crazy effects, helps with velocity and has helped in the gym as well

ill keep you updated on that proviron

 

[acromegalic]

I wouldn’t run test unless you plan to run it for life. You’re too young. Might stunt your growth. Id just run GH until you’re 20 then add the other stuff, maybe Masteron on top

Fairs, i’ve already started test at 200mg so a little late to turn back tho. Utilizing aromasin should hopefully lower the potential for growth plate closure, at least in the sense of estradiol. I appreciate the advice tho and will keep t dose low as to mitigate the chance of stunting growth.

 

[acromegalic]

var been okay so far, i mean its a pretty low dose so not any crazy effects, helps with velocity and has helped in the gym as well

ill keep you updated on that proviron

wrd sounds like a decent add on, i assume minimal sides at low dose. u running test base aswell?

preciate it

 

[0ptimized]

wrd sounds like a decent add on, i assume minimal sides at low dose. u running test base aswell?

preciate it

nah i dont have the balls to run test yet, but since the dosage is so low the sides are almost non existent and the testosterone suppresion isnt really noticable, if you're running a test base you could probably up the dose

 

[acromegalic]

nah i dont have the balls to run test yet, but since the dosage is so low the sides are almost non existent and the testosterone suppresion isnt really noticable, if you're running a test base you could probably up the dose

yeah, the only real concern with a higher dose is hepatic damage.. ill prob just start at 5mg during my cut in march and play it by ear from there. if you dont have the balls to run test now, you surely wont after test; mine are already shrinking on week 2 jfl. ig thats what hcg is for .

thanks for your insight bro i really appreciate it.