Cycle Androgen Help

[JporkFoid]

So i want to run androgens for facial development and physique development im new to this and would appreciate some advice
15, Turning 16 in a few months 6,1 97KG 25%BF Growth plates: Closed Cannot remain pinning for life Cannot pin 17-18 due to career
Goal: Face. Physique Development And keep fertility and not pin for life
Test500mg/WEEK 250mg injections
HCG: 1500IU/Week Split into 3 500IU Every other day
Enclomiphene: Start 12.5Mg Move to 25mg/Day
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD WILL drop to 6.25 if E2 Crashes
8IU HGH/day

Others
(Royal jelly pills i know its cope but i got it as a gift so may aswell use it)
Vitamin D3 4000IU/day
Calcium 3000MG/Day
Iron 14.5mg/day
Beta carotene 25,000IU/day

 

[JporkFoid]

bump

 

[India lover 52]

your taking way too much hcg your gonna desensitize your leydig cells, how long are u cycling for also i hope u meant your taking enclo for pct

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

Growth plates: Closed Cannot remain pinning for life Cannot pin 17-18 due to career

Drop hcg to 1000 a week
do the AI based on bloodwork

Enclomiphene: Start 12.5Mg Move to 25mg/Day

I assume PCT



How long is this cycle

 

[orbitro]

increase all dosages and add tren

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

increase all dosages and add tren

Hey, why are you angry?

 

[orbitro]

Hey, why are you angry?

Hey, I'm not angry just disappointed

 

[notaTQ]

your taking way too much hcg your gonna desensitize your leydig cells, how long are u cycling for also i hope u meant your taking enclo for pct

There's no data that hCG will desensitize your Leydig cells.

 

[India lover 52]

There's no data that hCG will desensitize your Leydig cells.

not in humans but 100% in animal studies

there will probably never be a human study because of the ethical concerns about purposely trying to turn a healthy person hypogonadal

 

[notaTQ]

It’s a rat study, so the doses and effects don’t carry over to humans. You can take the mechanism as a rough idea, but human endocrine physiology is different enough that you can’t use this to justify real dosing decisions.

 

[notaTQ]

not in humans but 100% in animal studies

there will probably never be a human study because of the ethical concerns about purposely trying to turn a healthy person hypogonadal

Read this Study, it's conducted on rats, monkeys, and humans. Let me know what you think.

 

[ascendtocl122]

It’s a rat study, so the doses and effects don’t carry over to humans. You can take the mechanism as a rough idea, but human endocrine physiology is different enough that you can’t use this to justify real dosing decisions.

so if we give a rat a line of coke and it dies do we not do coke

 

[India lover 52]

Read this Study, it's conducted on rats, monkeys, and humans. Let me know what you think.

that study only looked at a single administration of hcg not long term use although it does show desensitization recovery is possible, i still wouldn't recomend using it at high doses for a prolonged period of time,

also the study showed a shift in steroid production from the a4 to a5 pathway which is less efficient

 

[JporkFoid]

your taking way too much hcg your gonna desensitize your leydig cells, how long are u cycling for also i hope u meant your taking enclo for pct

if you know jettpsl from tiktok he said he took it all through out his cycle and i plan to cycle depending on results 4-9 months max

 

[JporkFoid]

Drop hcg to 1000 a week
do the AI based on bloodwork

I assume PCT



How long is this cycle

minimum 4 months depending on results 9 months
and im not to educated on pct if you could help me i would appreciate it
im planning to take hcg and enclo all throughout my cycle
just so i can make sure i can keep my fertility and balls

 

[JporkFoid]

increase all dosages and add tren

is micro dosing tren a good idea