Cycle help for heightmaxxing

[natqr]

I’m 16.5, bone age ~16, plates still open around a year left of growth, im 5'9.5 Been on stack for 5 weeks now and already up +2 cm (measured consistently morning/evening). Goal = minimum 5'11, ideally dream would be 6’1+ before plates fuse, don't want to be unrealistic though, but reaching close very important for me and for sports.

Weeks 0–5 stack:

• HGH: 6 IU split (3 AM / 3 PM)
• Aromasin: 12.5 mg EOD
• Supps (important ones): Vit D3, K2, Vit A, magnesium, boron, zinc, collagen + Vit C, Berberine, MSM + HA
• Glow Stack 3.5mg daily

Progress so far:
+2 cm in 5 weeks, recovery and elasticity improving.
Insane muscle building progress
Skin feeling good


Changes (as of today):

• HGH: now 9 IU split (4 AM / 5 PM)
• Aromasin: adjusted to 6.25 mg EOD
• Night routine: inject HGH → take collagen + Vit C → do Maasai jumps until legs are fried → ankle-weight hangs. Might be cope but no harm in trying heard some crazy results

Plan:

• Bloods:
  • Next week = first panel since baseline
  • 3 weeks later = second panel after IGF-1 and E2 stabilize on higher dose(adjust hgh based on this levels)
• At 3 months HGH: add Test 250 mg/week
• Final 6 weeks of 6 month peroid: add Anavar 10–30 mg/day
• Continue HGH + AI + night protocol + test + var throughout until i stop seeing growth after a month, cycling just anavar on and off(not sure if I should run it straight)

Questions:

• Anything major you would change
• Is 9 IU sustainable long-term until my plates close(a year at least) or better to cruise 6 IU, and how should i split them, or just have at night(vials i get 36 iu)

• Will Test + Var give me significant increase in height on top of what i'm running
• Is Abaloparatide/Teriparatide worth it for maybe +2 cm or more, or just cope?
• How Valproate / Vorinostat (HDACi) helps and if i should add it or any other compounds I should consider
• Any actual proven multipliers beyond what I’m already doing and that i should be doing(ive heard of many different expieramental protocols i'm open to them)

 

[damiandyrbusch]

9 iu of hgh has literally no benefits and your just not patient enough. Pumping up the dosage wont make you grow faster it will only make the side effects stronger

 

[natqr]

9 iu of hgh has literally no benefits and your just not patient enough. Pumping up the dosage wont make you grow faster it will only make the side effects stronger

theres ways to manage all the sides besides organ growth, and what proof do u have that 9 ius has no benifits compared to 6?

 

[blonde_is_htb]

theres ways to manage all the sides besides organ growth, and what proof do u have that 9 ius has no benifits compared to 6?

I don't know about sources but he's right. I checked it not long ago. Increasing dosage after 5-7iu more or less won't help more. It will just make the possibility of risks and effects higher. Check it yourself, it's a common statement

 

[blonde_is_htb]

By the way I kinda have your stats right now. Around a year more or less left of open plates and same height and age. Please inform me if you notice growth. I'm starting treatment soon.

 

[natqr]

By the way I kinda have your stats right now. Around a year more or less left of open plates and same height and age. Please inform me if you notice growth. I'm starting treatment soon.

what treatment u gonna run, i will

 

[blonde_is_htb]

what treatment u gonna run, i will

More or less same as you, i'm still searching. i'm concerned about side effects but shit, I need those extra cms.

 

[natqr]

bump

 

[Sachlichkeit]

I’m 16.5, bone age ~16, plates still open around a year left of growth, im 5'9.5 Been on stack for 5 weeks now and already up +2 cm (measured consistently morning/evening). Goal = minimum 5'11, ideally dream would be 6’1+ before plates fuse, don't want to be unrealistic though, but reaching close very important for me and for sports.

Weeks 0–5 stack:

• HGH: 6 IU split (3 AM / 3 PM)
• Aromasin: 12.5 mg EOD
• Supps (important ones): Vit D3, K2, Vit A, magnesium, boron, zinc, collagen + Vit C, Berberine, MSM + HA
• Glow Stack 3.5mg daily

Progress so far:
+2 cm in 5 weeks, recovery and elasticity improving.
Insane muscle building progress
Skin feeling good


Changes (as of today):

• HGH: now 9 IU split (4 AM / 5 PM)
• Aromasin: adjusted to 6.25 mg EOD
• Night routine: inject HGH → take collagen + Vit C → do Maasai jumps until legs are fried → ankle-weight hangs. Might be cope but no harm in trying heard some crazy results

Plan:

• Bloods:
  • Next week = first panel since baseline
  • 3 weeks later = second panel after IGF-1 and E2 stabilize on higher dose(adjust hgh based on this levels)
• At 3 months HGH: add Test 250 mg/week
• Final 6 weeks of 6 month peroid: add Anavar 10–30 mg/day
• Continue HGH + AI + night protocol + test + var throughout until i stop seeing growth after a month, cycling just anavar on and off(not sure if I should run it straight)

Questions:

• Anything major you would change
• Is 9 IU sustainable long-term until my plates close(a year at least) or better to cruise 6 IU, and how should i split them, or just have at night(vials i get 36 iu)
• Will Test + Var give me significant increase in height on top of what i'm running
• Is Abaloparatide/Teriparatide worth it for maybe +2 cm or more, or just cope?
• How Valproate / Vorinostat (HDACi) helps and if i should add it or any other compounds I should consider
• Any actual proven multipliers beyond what I’m already doing and that i should be doing(ive heard of many different expieramental protocols i'm open to them)

HDACi isn't known for height increase just frame widening and (I think) contingent on high dose steroids to work. 9iu is high. Theres medical backing for anavar increasing height velocity at a low dose while outpacing the speed at which it ages bones in children. Can get away with 10mg.

Androgens period work synergistically with HGH to increase growth but without controlling your estrogen instead of getting un-natural gains it will just close your plates

Estrogen still is the main trigger for ending growth

This is a good standard height stack and 3 inches in a year is realistic.

After 6-8IU HGH's effectiveness plateaus.

• Night routine: inject HGH → take collagen + Vit C → do Maasai jumps until legs are fried → ankle-weight hangs. Might be cope but no harm in trying heard some crazy results

yup

 

[natqr]

Appreciate the response man, makes sense about HGH plateauing, im going to lower hgh 8 ius, im either gonna do a 4+4 iu split or 3+5 iu split, possible 3+6


Since my plates are still open and I’ve already seen +2 cm in 5 weeks, do you think there’s any realistic way to push closer to 4 inches in a year instead of just 3? I know genetics is a cap but I’m wondering if there is literally anything else i can do, or is it just cope/unsafe for like + 1cm compared to what I’m already doing. Would literally do anything for this height, might need to just be patient and let hgh do its thing tho