Cycle Plan for Fat Loss & Muscle Retention (Feedback Request)

[martinwombr]

I’m planning a fat loss-focused cycle while maintaining muscle mass. My goal is to drop ~25-30kg of fat while keeping as much muscle as possible. Below is my planned compound list, dosages, and reasoning. I’d appreciate any feedback, optimizations, or advice before I finalize my order.

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Hormonal Compounds (Anabolics & Testosterone)​

Compound	Dosage	Purpose
Testosterone Enanthate	150-300mg/week (2x per week injections)	Muscle retention, mood, energy, prevents suppression
Anavar (Oxandrolone)	10-20mg pre-workout	Strength, fat loss, muscle retention, no water retention

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Peptides & Growth Factors​

Compound	Dosage	Purpose
HGH (Human Growth Hormone)	6 IU/day (3 IU AM + 3 IU PM)	Fat loss, muscle preservation, IGF-1 boost
MK-677 (Ibutamoren)	12.5-25mg daily (before bed)	Boosts IGF-1, enhances HGH effects, improves sleep & recovery

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Fat Loss Enhancers​

Compound	Dosage	Purpose
Retatrutide	Start 2mg/week, titrate up to 6-10mg/week	Strongest GLP-1/GIP agonist for appetite suppression & fat loss
Clenbuterol	Start 20mcg/day, ramp to 40-60mcg/day	Beta-2 agonist for fat loss, metabolic boost

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Estrogen & Hormone Management​

Compound	Dosage	Purpose
Aromasin (Exemestane)	12.5mg EOD (adjust as needed)	Controls estrogen, prevents water retention & gyno
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen)	20mg/day during PCT	Helps restore natural testosterone post-cycle & HPTA

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Post-Cycle Therapy (PCT) & Recovery​

Compound	Dosage	Purpose
HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotropin)	500 IU 3x per week (last 2 weeks of cycle)	Maintains testicular function & LH stimulation
HMG (Human Menopausal Gonadotropin)	75 IU 2-3x per week (PCT weeks 1-2)	Restores LH & FSH, better recovery than HCG alone
Enclomiphene	12.5mg/day (PCT weeks 1-4)	Stimulates LH & FSH, restores natural test faster

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Support & Health​

Compound	Dosage	Purpose
Tadalafil (Cialis)	2.5-5mg nightly	Improves blood flow, combats potential ED from low estrogen
Dutasteride	0.5mg EOD	DHT blocker, prevents hair loss from Test/Anavar

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🛠 Cycle Length & Structure​

• Weeks 1-12: Test E, Anavar, HGH, Retatrutide, Clen, MK-677
• Weeks 10-12: HCG to prepare for PCT
• Weeks 13-16: PCT (HMG, Nolvadex, Enclomiphene)

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Questions for the Forum​

1. Would you keep Test E at 150mg/week or go up to 300mg?
2. Should I remove Anavar, or is it worth keeping for strength and recomp?
3. Would MK-677 + 6 IU HGH be overkill, or should I just run HGH alone?
4. Any suggested adjustments?

Appreciate any feedback! Looking to optimize this for max fat loss with minimal muscle loss.
@Rigged @Clavicular @Pinhead @6ft4 @Donkeyballs @oppastoppathe2nd @4lt.Real @MA_ascender @JohnDoe @Youㅤ @Dyorotic

 

[martinwombr]

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@20/04/2008

 

[Donkeyballs]

bro is seeking for advice in looksmax.org 2025
(just drop nolva, very neurotoxic. Use clomid instead)

 

[1m1ro]

Dosages are so low so I dont think u need dutasteride for hair loss

 

[martinwombr]

Dosages are so low so I dont think u need dutasteride for hair loss

Shit hairline genetics, need it even without test

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

Hgh / test / mk / even aromisan will all bloat u so much that u will give up. Trust me the bloat is hard to look at everyday making u switch up

 

[sharpnimbustoilet98]

I’m planning a fat loss-focused cycle while maintaining muscle mass. My goal is to drop ~25-30kg of fat while keeping as much muscle as possible. Below is my planned compound list, dosages, and reasoning. I’d appreciate any feedback, optimizations, or advice before I finalize my order.

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Hormonal Compounds (Anabolics & Testosterone)​

Compound	Dosage	Purpose
Testosterone Enanthate	150-300mg/week (2x per week injections)	Muscle retention, mood, energy, prevents suppression
Anavar (Oxandrolone)	10-20mg pre-workout	Strength, fat loss, muscle retention, no water retention

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Peptides & Growth Factors​

Compound	Dosage	Purpose
HGH (Human Growth Hormone)	6 IU/day (3 IU AM + 3 IU PM)	Fat loss, muscle preservation, IGF-1 boost
MK-677 (Ibutamoren)	12.5-25mg daily (before bed)	Boosts IGF-1, enhances HGH effects, improves sleep & recovery

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Fat Loss Enhancers​

Compound	Dosage	Purpose
Retatrutide	Start 2mg/week, titrate up to 6-10mg/week	Strongest GLP-1/GIP agonist for appetite suppression & fat loss
Clenbuterol	Start 20mcg/day, ramp to 40-60mcg/day	Beta-2 agonist for fat loss, metabolic boost

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Estrogen & Hormone Management​

Compound	Dosage	Purpose
Aromasin (Exemestane)	12.5mg EOD (adjust as needed)	Controls estrogen, prevents water retention & gyno
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen)	20mg/day during PCT	Helps restore natural testosterone post-cycle & HPTA

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Post-Cycle Therapy (PCT) & Recovery​

Compound	Dosage	Purpose
HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotropin)	500 IU 3x per week (last 2 weeks of cycle)	Maintains testicular function & LH stimulation
HMG (Human Menopausal Gonadotropin)	75 IU 2-3x per week (PCT weeks 1-2)	Restores LH & FSH, better recovery than HCG alone
Enclomiphene	12.5mg/day (PCT weeks 1-4)	Stimulates LH & FSH, restores natural test faster

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Support & Health​

Compound	Dosage	Purpose
Tadalafil (Cialis)	2.5-5mg nightly	Improves blood flow, combats potential ED from low estrogen
Dutasteride	0.5mg EOD	DHT blocker, prevents hair loss from Test/Anavar

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🛠 Cycle Length & Structure​

• Weeks 1-12: Test E, Anavar, HGH, Retatrutide, Clen, MK-677
• Weeks 10-12: HCG to prepare for PCT
• Weeks 13-16: PCT (HMG, Nolvadex, Enclomiphene)

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Questions for the Forum​

1. Would you keep Test E at 150mg/week or go up to 300mg?
2. Should I remove Anavar, or is it worth keeping for strength and recomp?
3. Would MK-677 + 6 IU HGH be overkill, or should I just run HGH alone?
4. Any suggested adjustments?

Appreciate any feedback! Looking to optimize this for max fat loss with minimal muscle loss.
@Rigged @Clavicular @Pinhead @6ft4 @Donkeyballs @oppastoppathe2nd @4lt.Real @MA_ascender @JohnDoe @Youㅤ @Dyorotic

drop mk-677. 6 iu hgh is already more than enough. mk-677 stimulates gh release but stacking it with exogenous hgh is pointless. mk-677 will just increase water retention and hunger which counteracts retatrutide.

300mg/week is unnecessary stick to 150mg/week

retatrutide already blunts appetite and improves insulin sensitivity. adding clen is overkill, increases cardiac strain and clen doesnt burn fat directly it juist raises metabolic rate slightly. if you insist on clen then use low doses (20-40mcg) and cycle it properly.

aromasin eod is too much for this cycle cause you're not running a high aromatizing cycle. ai use should be based on your bloodwork not a fixed schedule. start low or on demand.

anavar is fine but not essential. if cost isnt an issue then keep it at 10-20mg pre workout. otherwise test+hgh is enough.

pct is way too excessive for this cycle. hcg during cycle + enclomiphene in pct is enough. hmg is overkill unless you're trying to conceive its unnecessary for most people recovering from a basic cycle.

so basically drop the mk-677, drop hmg, keep the test low, use ai only as needed, and clen & anavar are optional not mandatory

(do not run this cycle or any cycle unless you have dont enough research and preparation because right now you're just stacking compounds with no clear logic from what im seeing)

 

[martinwombr]

drop mk-677. 6 iu hgh is already more than enough. mk-677 stimulates gh release but stacking it with exogenous hgh is pointless. mk-677 will just increase water retention and hunger which counteracts retatrutide.

300mg/week is unnecessary stick to 150mg/week

retatrutide already blunts appetite and improves insulin sensitivity. adding clen is overkill, increases cardiac strain and clen doesnt burn fat directly it juist raises metabolic rate slightly. if you insist on clen then use low doses (20-40mcg) and cycle it properly.

aromasin eod is too much for this cycle cause you're not running a high aromatizing cycle. ai use should be based on your bloodwork not a fixed schedule. start low or on demand.

anavar is fine but not essential. if cost isnt an issue then keep it at 10-20mg pre workout. otherwise test+hgh is enough.

pct is way too excessive for this cycle. hcg during cycle + enclomiphene in pct is enough. hmg is overkill unless you're trying to conceive its unnecessary for most people recovering from a basic cycle.

so basically drop the mk-677, drop hmg, keep the test low, use ai only as needed, and clen & anavar are optional not mandatory

(do not run this cycle or any cycle unless you have dont enough research and preparation because right now you're just stacking compounds with no clear logic from what im seeing)

Thanks, decided on just sticking with reta for fat loss/fasting and hgh for hopefully some muscle retention and bone mass

 

[naygerPSL]

Is this your first cycle? If so then wow. Your orals and anavar is going to kick in faster than your test. id recommend to run test for 6-8weeks first. Then add in the rest. Also take out the Mk itll bloat you not worth. You could keep the anavar you will get stronger on it. Just run liver support like tudca. Anavar isnt needed here, its not magic and wont make you look like jeff seid. But its great. Also slowly bump the test dose to 500 near the end of ur clen and anavar cycle dont do var more than 8weeks. Dont pct youll regret just cruise on 500 test ur life or if you stayed 300 test then cruise on it. You could run hcg and clomid with the test after ur clen and var cycle to restore ur balls tho. If u have the money just run hcg the whole cycle. And use better forums for cycle advice

 

[martinwombr]

Is this your first cycle? If so then wow. Your orals and anavar is going to kick in faster than your test. id recommend to run test for 6-8weeks first. Then add in the rest. Also take out the Mk itll bloat you not worth. You could keep the anavar you will get stronger on it. Just run liver support like tudca. Anavar isnt needed here, its not magic and wont make you look like jeff seid. But its great. Also slowly bump the test dose to 500 near the end of ur clen and anavar cycle dont do var more than 8weeks. Dont pct youll regret just cruise on 500 test ur life or if you stayed 300 test then cruise on it. You could run hcg and clomid with the test after ur clen and var cycle to restore ur balls tho. If u have the money just run hcg the whole cycle. And use better forums for cycle advice

Planned on it being my first cycle, decided on just sticking with reta+cagri until im leaner, after that ill get on test and hgh. Why not pct? I plan on having kids later on in life so wanna keep fertility. Would hcg be enough for that?

 

[naygerPSL]

Planned on it being my first cycle, decided on just sticking with reta+cagri until im leaner, after that ill get on test and hgh. Why not pct? I plan on having kids later on in life so wanna keep fertility. Would hcg be enough for that?

Hcg and clomid but just check bloods checked if ur test or e2 is low try fixing that

 

[doublestuffed]

25-30 kg of fat is insane diet some naturally before you take anything also mk-677 is a terrible idea you are just going to be hungry all the time and cheat on your diet and it will make you retain a fuck ton of water. Put down the fork for a little bit and then in a couple months I would maybe think about going on thyroid replacement doses and some test.