Cycle question(HIGH IQ NEEDED)

[JTBIGGA]

I’m starting 250-400 test(depending on what my bloodwork says)
I have cialis for blood pressure
Adding HGH
I have an estrogen blocker if I need it
Should I hop on accutane and fin right away or only if I notice a need for them? Thanks.

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

hop on DUT* & accutane right away
prevention is important, curing isn't it

And you'll probably not need estrogen blockers, check your bloodwork tho

 

[llane9]

start dut preemptively, I started with fin and regret not just getting on dut right away.

 

[JTBIGGA]

hop on DUT* & accutane right away

And you'll probably not need estrogen blockers, check your bloodwork tho

i cant find dut anywhere but i already have fin. big difference in the two?

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

i cant find dut anywhere but i already have fin. big difference in the two?

You're fine for one cycle

Dut saves your skin elastin & hair from dht while fin only saves hair

You'll be fine with fin & accutane for one cycle tho

 

[Noesis]

I’m starting 250-400 test(depending on what my bloodwork says)

Why does it matter

 

[JTBIGGA]

You're fine for one cycle

Dut saves your skin elastin & hair from dht while fin only saves hair

You'll be fine with fin & accutane for one cycle tho

How long would you rec a cycle to be with fin and not dut? I don’t wanna fuck up my skin but a temporary looksmin wouldn’t be the end of the world as I’ll be bulking anyways.

 

[7evenvox22]

edit: lmao I just realized I responded to the wrong fucking thread I'm way too stressed
bro a few quick points so you don’t shoot yourself in the foot:

test 250-400: solid range. don’t pre-load an AI. start with no AI, check E2 (sensitive assay) + symptoms after 3-4 weeks. bloat does not mean high E2 automatically. if labs + sides line up, then micro-dose an AI. crashing E2 is what nukes mood/skin/joints.

cialis for blood pressure: tadalafil isn’t a BP med. it can drop BP a little, but you still need a plan if readings creep up. get a home cuff, track AM/PM BP + HR. if BP trends high, look at actual antihypertensives (most guys do best on an ARB like telmisartan) don’t rely on cialis alone.

adding HGH: start conservative (2 IU/day, split dosing), see how you tolerate it before creeping up. watch fasting glucose, A1c, IGF-1, hand numbness, edema, BP. if insulin sensitivity slides, consider diet tweaks first; metformin/berberine only if numbers say so.

fin / accutane "right away?" finasteride: if you’re DHT-sensitive or already thinning, running fin from day 1 is reasonable (with keto 2% shampoo and topical minoxidil). if your hair is stable, you can wait and add it at the first sign of increased shedding/itch/inflammation. dut is stronger; no need to jump there first. accutane: don’t pre-empt. it’s liver/lipids/joints/dryness for months. try skin basics first (benzoyl peroxide wash AM, adapalene/tret PM, non-comedogenic moisturizer). if you still explode with acne after you’re steady on test/HGH, then talk low-dose iso and run LFTs + lipids.

bloodwork you actually need: baseline week 4-6 then q8-12 weeks: CBC, CMP (AST/ALT), lipids, E2 sensitive, TT/FT, prolactin (if symptoms), TSH/Free T4, fasting glucose/insulin or A1c, IGF-1 (with HGH), hematocrit/hemoglobin. if you do iso: pull LFTs/lipids monthly at start.

gyno/water plan: don’t chase every puff with AI. manage sodium, sleep, and cardio first. if true high-E2 sides + labs, use tiny AI adjustments. for water/BP from HGH, lifestyle > pills; if persistent, eplerenone/amiloride is cleaner than smashing E2.

PCT vs staying on: your outline says you want fertility long-term. that means planning on-cycle HCG (not just the gap before PCT) or accepting you’ll recover slower. if you’re truly coming off, keep PCT minimal/evidence-based and confirm with labs, not vibes.

bottom line: start test, add low-dose HGH, monitor first. run fin if you’re hair-prone; save accutane for real acne. don’t pre-AI. cialis doesn't necessarily mean BP control track numbers and be ready to use a real BP med if needed. labs will tell you what to change.