Dad 6'5, I'm 5'9 how do I reach potential??

[TopK19]

Lurker here, debut post.

Dad - 6'5
Mum - 5'7

Predicted height = ~6'2.5 (male obv)

Me - 5'9 @just turned 17

Haven't grown since like fucking 13/14y/o
Feels like I won genetic lottery with tall parents but my ticket is invalid or sum shit.

I heard stories some people shoot up at 18/19/even 20 but I'm just coping instead of taking action.

Heightpill is so brutal I'm tired of it all

I'm going to get my hand/wrist and knee x-rayed to see if growth plates still open. If so, I'm getting hopping on AI & HGH.

Spoiler: Lifestyle over the years (fucking irrelevant jfl)

9-14 videogamerlosercel poor exercise no sunlight mid diet. Gaming all night, shit irregular sleep.

15-17 gymceling 6x weekly - high intensity - deadlifts, etc. Mid dist cardio also, clean high protein diet, good sunlight exposure. 8+ hrs sleep.

Poor lifestyle previously fucked my development???

Any advice on specifics/general advice is appreciated. Lowk scared of getting enlarged organs or sum BS...

 

[iblamemandible7]

Holy fuck thats brutal, I also relate to you as my mom is 5'8, dad is 5'11, and im capped at 5'9, but yours is even more brutal, maybe the saddest case Ive seen on here tbh. Have you grown in the last year?

 

[iblamemandible7]

Nvm I just reread

Im so sorry bro

Dont beat yourself up for not measuring up to your parents, its incredibly hard to genuinely stunt your growth in a 1st world country, you probably just got a shitty gene combo from your grandparents'

For every story you hear about a 6'4 nigga towering over his parents theres a story about people like us

Its not your fault

 

[slaters]

Lurker here, debut post.

Dad - 6'5
Mum - 5'7

Predicted height = ~6'2.5 (male obv)

Me - 5'9 @just turned 17

Haven't grown since like fucking 13/14y/o
Feels like I won genetic lottery with tall parents but my ticket is invalid or sum shit.

I heard stories some people shoot up at 18/19/even 20 but I'm just coping instead of taking action.

Heightpill is so brutal I'm tired of it all

I'm going to get my hand/wrist and knee x-rayed to see if growth plates still open. If so, I'm getting hopping on AI & HGH.

Spoiler: Lifestyle over the years (fucking irrelevant jfl)

9-14 videogamerlosercel poor exercise no sunlight mid diet. Gaming all night, shit irregular sleep.

15-17 gymceling 6x weekly - high intensity - deadlifts, etc. Mid dist cardio also, clean high protein diet, good sunlight exposure. 8+ hrs sleep.

Poor lifestyle previously fucked my development???

Any advice on specifics/general advice is appreciated. Lowk scared of getting enlarged organs or sum BS...

Holy fuck thats brutal, I also relate to you as my mom is 5'8, dad is 5'11, and im capped at 5'9, but yours is even more brutal, maybe the saddest case Ive seen on here tbh. Have you grown in the last year?

Not really super over I shot from 5’10 to 5’11.5 near the end of 17 I’m freshly 18

 

[TopK19]

Not really super over I shot from 5’10 to 5’11.5 near the end of 17 I’m freshly 18

Right but when is the last time you grew before that growth spurt? I've been same height since 13/14. I'm worried growth plates might be closed.

 

[iblamemandible7]

Not really super over I shot from 5’10 to 5’11.5 near the end of 17 I’m freshly 18

Dude... If he genuinely hasnt grown since 14 its better to js stay realistic... Ofc x rays are good idea but its not looking good, I think its impossible for him to get a noticeable growth spurt if hes already this developed

 

[iblamemandible7]

Right but when is the last time you grew before that growth spurt? I've been same height since 13/14. I'm worried growth plates might be closed.

What tanner stage are you?

 

[slaters]

Dude... If he genuinely hasnt grown since 14 its better to js stay realistic... Ofc x rays are good idea but its not looking good, I think its impossible for him to get a noticeable growth spurt if hes already this developed

Yeah your right over

 

[TopK19]

Nvm I just reread

Im so sorry bro

Dont beat yourself up for not measuring up to your parents, its incredibly hard to genuinely stunt your growth in a 1st world country, you probably just got a shitty gene combo from your grandparents'

For every story you hear about a 6'4 nigga towering over his parents theres a story about people like us

Its not your fault

Thanks bro...

Mums side grandparents are 5'7, 5'4, she came out tall for a female, 5'9

Dads side 5'10, 5'7/5'6 so he also came out very tall for his parents height, 6'5

So they both are tall for their parents height.

So you're saying I might be enduring my shitty grandparents height genes instead of my good parents height genes? Unfortunate if that's true... Dad says he was already tall by my age, same with mum.

Again.. haven't grown since 13/14. Seems like I got crop farmer peasant genetics from grandparents then?

 

[Gonthar]

That's probably not your real dad...

 

[iblamemandible7]

Thanks bro...

Mums side grandparents are 5'7, 5'4, she came out tall for a female, 5'9

Dads side 5'10, 5'7/5'6 so he also came out very tall for his parents height, 6'5

So they both are tall for their parents height.

So you're saying I might be enduring my shitty grandparents height genes instead of my good parents height genes? Unfortunate if that's true... Dad says he was already tall by my age, same with mum.

Again.. haven't grown since 13/14. Seems like I got crop farmer peasant genetics from grandparents then?

Makes sense, basically both of your parents carried an unexpressed copy of the short gene passed down from their parents, and when they made you both of the short genes combined and became dominant in you, so now you express a shorter height

Its brutal man, same thing in my family

 

[dnrwarrior11]

brutal gene recombination pill

I’m 6’0 at 16 with my dad at 5’9 and mom at 5’2. It is truly a game of luck, isn’t it?

 

[Struggler03]

You better start sleeping more until you are 20, sleep atleast 10 hours a day

 

[TopK19]

What tanner stage are you?

Just googled it, not an expert but visually id say 4?? Although I only started getting armpit hair like 6months ago still quite little. Voice pretty average. Bits of facial hair. Muscle mass decent since I'm gymceling. Foot size UK7.

 

[TopK19]

Yeah your right over

Cheers bro

 

[TopK19]

That's probably not your real dad...

I thought about this it. I think mum would've disclosed this tho since they had a custody battle which wouldve ended it...

 

[Foridis]

Lurker here, debut post.

Dad - 6'5
Mum - 5'7

Predicted height = ~6'2.5 (male obv)

Me - 5'9 @just turned 17

Haven't grown since like fucking 13/14y/o
Feels like I won genetic lottery with tall parents but my ticket is invalid or sum shit.

I heard stories some people shoot up at 18/19/even 20 but I'm just coping instead of taking action.

Heightpill is so brutal I'm tired of it all

I'm going to get my hand/wrist and knee x-rayed to see if growth plates still open. If so, I'm getting hopping on AI & HGH.

Spoiler: Lifestyle over the years (fucking irrelevant jfl)

9-14 videogamerlosercel poor exercise no sunlight mid diet. Gaming all night, shit irregular sleep.

15-17 gymceling 6x weekly - high intensity - deadlifts, etc. Mid dist cardio also, clean high protein diet, good sunlight exposure. 8+ hrs sleep.

Poor lifestyle previously fucked my development???

Any advice on specifics/general advice is appreciated. Lowk scared of getting enlarged organs or sum BS...

I can relate except my dad isnt as tall. Im almost 17 and didnt grow from 13/14 still 5’9, its though

 

[TopK19]

Makes sense, basically both of your parents carried an unexpressed copy of the short gene passed down from their parents, and when they made you both of the short genes combined and became dominant in you, so now you express a shorter height

Its brutal man, same thing in my family

Wow never knew that 5'9 really makes sense in that case... I look forward to the x-ray now

 

[TopK19]

brutal gene recombination pill

I’m 6’0 at 16 with my dad at 5’9 and mom at 5’2. It is truly a game of luck, isn’t it?

Did you attempt to deliberately heightmaxx/ max potential or you just 6'0 with no specific effort?

 

[slaters]

I’d do testosterone with an ai with maybe a little hgh that was when I hit a growth spurt I’m skeptical of hgh making a difference

12-13 went from 5’3 -> 5’9
13-17 5’9 -> 5’10
Late 17- 18 last month 5’10 - 5’11.5

5’10 dad from family of manlets
5’8 mom from family of ~6’2 men

Might be over for my growth but I think I’ll grow a little bit more

 

[TopK19]

You better start sleeping more until you are 20, sleep atleast 10 hours a day

Might just have to lock the fuck in on my circadian rythym then 10hrs+ same times, regular mealtimes, no food before bed. (Not Cope )

 

[iblamemandible7]

I’d do testosterone with an ai with maybe a little hgh that was when I hit a growth spurt I’m skeptical of hgh making a difference

12-13 went from 5’3 -> 5’9
13-17 5’9 -> 5’10
Late 17- 18 last month 5’10 - 5’11.5

5’10 dad from family of manlets
5’8 mom from family of ~6’2 men

Might be over for my growth but I think I’ll grow a little bit more

What dose of T and AI did you take and how long bhai?

 

[dnrwarrior11]

Did you attempt to deliberately heightmaxx/ max potential or you just 6'0 with no specific effort?

No infact for the first 13 years of my life I was malnourished and barely ate. I never ended up growing significantly until I started forcing myself to eat for gymmaxxing

I do have a background of tall people tho, but just got shorter overtime from reproducing with shorter and shorter people ig

 

[slaters]

What dose of T and AI did you take and how long bhai?

Started at 250 test early march for around 6 weeks 12.5 aromasin e3d then I decided to up it to 400 test then add 200 primo then I think the primo crashed my estrogen somehow since my dick stopped working and I got heavy brain fog

The primo experience might’ve shed some light on how I aromatize since most people use primo test at a 1: 0.7-1 ratio

Turned 18 late may

 

[korne]

Take hgh and ai, you might be growth hormone deficient or something like that

 

[TopK19]

I’d do testosterone with an ai with maybe a little hgh that was when I hit a growth spurt I’m skeptical of hgh making a difference

12-13 went from 5’3 -> 5’9
13-17 5’9 -> 5’10
Late 17- 18 last month 5’10 - 5’11.5

5’10 dad from family of manlets
5’8 mom from family of ~6’2 men

Might be over for my growth but I think I’ll grow a little bit more

Fuck bro Idk if i wanna potentially ruin my life with roids I need to do more research cuz i don't know much rn.

Id say I'm MTN, 5'9. With softmaxxing + development could get high MTN. With more Physiquemaxx, statusmaxx could ascend a bit overall. 114iq, so it's not completely over to the point I say fuck it and take the risk...

It's tempting but I don't wanna fucking deform myself with HGH or shrink my balls and lose my dick with test, or plummet my oestrogen and motivation with AI's.

Honestly idk bro, side effects would fucking suck but if they were temp and I knew I could acend to 6'0 I would. Guess I'll seriously think it over it when I do x-ray.

 

[TopK19]

Take hgh and ai, you might be growth hormone deficient or something like that

I'll go get blood work soon

 

[slaters]

Fuck bro Idk if i wanna potentially ruin my life with roids I need to do more research cuz i don't know much rn.

Id say I'm MTN, 5'9. With softmaxxing + development could get high MTN. With more Physiquemaxx, statusmaxx could ascend a bit overall. 114iq, so it's not completely over to the point I say fuck it and take the risk...

It's tempting but I don't wanna fucking deform myself with HGH or shrink my balls and lose my dick with test, or plummet my oestrogen and motivation with AI's.

Honestly idk bro, side effects would fucking suck but if they were temp and I knew I could acend to 6'0 I would. Guess I'll seriously think it over it when I do x-ray.

You will be fine with a little test it’s when you start touching stronger anabolics like Tren is where you start risking permanent shutdown and even then you’ll still be fine probably

 

[TopK19]

I

No infact for the first 13 years of my life I was malnourished and barely ate. I never ended up growing significantly until I started forcing myself to eat for gymmaxxing

I do have a background of tall people tho, but just got shorter overtime from reproducing with shorter and shorter people ig

Tried the same gymmaxx + force feeding I got to like 80kg, like 20%bf in 6months no height change. 70kg now so that was pointless..

 

[TopK19]

You will be fine with a little test it’s when you start touching stronger anabolics like Tren is where you start risking permanent shutdown and even then you’ll still be fine probably

Test would be more effective than hgh? Sorry for my unknowledgeable questions I'll do my own research shortly

 

[dnrwarrior11]

I

Tried the same gymmaxx + force feeding I got to like 80kg, like 20%bf in 6months no height change. 70kg now so that was pointless..

Maybe it only worked because like I said I was previously malnourished asl

For reference I was just about 90 lbs going into 8th grade

I remember actually tracking my calories for the first time, I thought I ate a lot that day but only ate 1500 cals

 

[TopK19]

Take hgh and ai, you might be growth hormone deficient or something like that

Idk If I'm deficient.. I put on muscle and strength quite quickly. I got back to gym after quitting for 1 year. In two months my benchpress: 60kgx12 ---> 70kgx12, but that might be newbie gainz and might not even be correlated to hgh so idk, I don't know enough on the topic.

 

[TopK19]

Maybe it only worked because like I said I was previously malnourished asl

For reference I was just about 90 lbs going into 8th grade

I remember actually tracking my calories for the first time, I thought I ate a lot that day but only ate 1500 cals

Damn I probably wasn't as bad as you but I remember putting my BMI into the calculator and getting the underweight catagory..malnourished probably not, very skinny yes.

 

[dnrwarrior11]

Damn I probably wasn't as bad as you but I remember putting my BMI into the calculator and getting the underweight catagory..malnourished probably not, very skinny yes.

Yea I was always very weak, couldn’t even do a pushup with bad form. My doctors never said a fucking thing and I never truly had a “growth spurt” because of it. At least I ended up being several inches taller than my predicted height (5’8 )

 

[iblamemandible7]

Started at 250 test early march for around 6 weeks 12.5 aromasin e3d then I decided to up it to 400 test then add 200 primo then I think the primo crashed my estrogen somehow since my dick stopped working and I got heavy brain fog

The primo experience might’ve shed some light on how I aromatize since most people use primo test at a 1: 0.7-1 ratio

Turned 18 late may

Mirin

Any face gains?

 

[slaters]

Mirin

Any face gains?

Not a single molecule or mm

 

[iblameautistickids]

since u didnt grow in a while i would recomend getting a xray, if the plates are closed its over but if there opening u can use hgh to grow

 

[korne]

Test would be more effective than hgh? Sorry for my unknowledgeable questions I'll do my own research shortly

no, hgh is different from test

Idk If I'm deficient.. I put on muscle and strength quite quickly. I got back to gym after quitting for 1 year. In two months my benchpress: 60kgx12 ---> 70kgx12, but that might be newbie gainz and might not even be correlated to hgh so idk, I don't know enough on the topic.

mirin, you're probably defficient in IGF-1 and not test, being the reason you can pack on muscle but no height

and also check your growth plates to see if you can actually grow more

 

[6´3 LTN]

Lurker here, debut post.

Dad - 6'5
Mum - 5'7

Predicted height = ~6'2.5 (male obv)

Me - 5'9 @just turned 17

Haven't grown since like fucking 13/14y/o
Feels like I won genetic lottery with tall parents but my ticket is invalid or sum shit.

I heard stories some people shoot up at 18/19/even 20 but I'm just coping instead of taking action.

Heightpill is so brutal I'm tired of it all

I'm going to get my hand/wrist and knee x-rayed to see if growth plates still open. If so, I'm getting hopping on AI & HGH.

Spoiler: Lifestyle over the years (fucking irrelevant jfl)

9-14 videogamerlosercel poor exercise no sunlight mid diet. Gaming all night, shit irregular sleep.

15-17 gymceling 6x weekly - high intensity - deadlifts, etc. Mid dist cardio also, clean high protein diet, good sunlight exposure. 8+ hrs sleep.

Poor lifestyle previously fucked my development???

Any advice on specifics/general advice is appreciated. Lowk scared of getting enlarged organs or sum BS...

I was about to say there’s hope if you’re young because I grew 24 cm in 2 years but that was from 13 to 15 but if you’re 17 that’s brutal

 

[TopK19]

no, hgh is different from test


mirin, you're probably defficient in IGF-1 and not test, being the reason you can pack on muscle but no height

and also check your growth plates to see if you can actually grow more

Ill go tomorrow. I live in the UK, I'm under 18 so how do I get the xray free? Should I say that my wrist and hand hurts or some shit? Or do I just say I want an x-ray to check my growth plates?

 

[Deleted member 63681]

Ill go tomorrow. I live in the UK, I'm under 18 so how do I get the xray free? Should I say that my wrist and hand hurts or some shit? Or do I just say I want an x-ray to check my growth plates?

instead of worrying and spiking your cortisol just know your parents contributed thousands of height alleles each adding 0.01 mm that make up your final height nothing is gonna make you taller or shorter unless your legit starving its legit a lottery but you can get a bone age scan to see how many years of growth you have left ig.

 

[laworg]

Lurker here, debut post.

Dad - 6'5
Mum - 5'7

Predicted height = ~6'2.5 (male obv)

Me - 5'9 @just turned 17

Haven't grown since like fucking 13/14y/o
Feels like I won genetic lottery with tall parents but my ticket is invalid or sum shit.

I heard stories some people shoot up at 18/19/even 20 but I'm just coping instead of taking action.

Heightpill is so brutal I'm tired of it all

I'm going to get my hand/wrist and knee x-rayed to see if growth plates still open. If so, I'm getting hopping on AI & HGH.

Spoiler: Lifestyle over the years (fucking irrelevant jfl)

9-14 videogamerlosercel poor exercise no sunlight mid diet. Gaming all night, shit irregular sleep.

15-17 gymceling 6x weekly - high intensity - deadlifts, etc. Mid dist cardio also, clean high protein diet, good sunlight exposure. 8+ hrs sleep.

Poor lifestyle previously fucked my development???

Any advice on specifics/general advice is appreciated. Lowk scared of getting enlarged organs or sum BS...

Thats not how u calculate predicted height its those divided by two then add 2,5 inches

 

[TopK19]

instead of worrying and spiking your cortisol just know your parents contributed thousands of height alleles each adding 0.01 mm that make up your final height nothing is gonna make you taller or shorter unless your legit starving its legit a lottery but you can get a bone age scan to see how many years of growth you have left ig.

I see, thanks. Cortisol comment made me laugh .

 

[TopK19]

Thats not how u calculate predicted height its those divided by two then add 2,5 iches

(77 + 67) ÷ 2 = 72
72 + 2.5 = 74.5 inches = 6'2.5"

Or am I tweaking?

 

[Debetro]

You have a privileged height.

 

[laworg]

(77 + 67) ÷ 2 = 72
72 + 2.5 = 74.5 inches = 6'2.5"

Or am I tweaking?

Ur not 6 foot 2.6 inch

 

[Restitutor Orbis]

Lurker here, debut post.

Dad - 6'5
Mum - 5'7

Predicted height = ~6'2.5 (male obv)

Me - 5'9 @just turned 17

Haven't grown since like fucking 13/14y/o
Feels like I won genetic lottery with tall parents but my ticket is invalid or sum shit.

I heard stories some people shoot up at 18/19/even 20 but I'm just coping instead of taking action.

Heightpill is so brutal I'm tired of it all

I'm going to get my hand/wrist and knee x-rayed to see if growth plates still open. If so, I'm getting hopping on AI & HGH.

Spoiler: Lifestyle over the years (fucking irrelevant jfl)

9-14 videogamerlosercel poor exercise no sunlight mid diet. Gaming all night, shit irregular sleep.

15-17 gymceling 6x weekly - high intensity - deadlifts, etc. Mid dist cardio also, clean high protein diet, good sunlight exposure. 8+ hrs sleep.

Poor lifestyle previously fucked my development???

Any advice on specifics/general advice is appreciated. Lowk scared of getting enlarged organs or sum BS...

Giga brutal genetic recomp. Honestly I'm praying for your ass to grow even tho you're alr taller than me . Do you have short grandparents? Maybe some of the genetic trash seeped through and is cucking you

 

[TopK19]

Ur not 6 foot 2.6 inch

Correct? It's a prediction bro

 

[TopK19]

Giga brutal genetic recomp. Honestly I'm praying for your ass to grow even tho you're alr taller than me . Do you have short grandparents? Maybe some of the genetic trash seeped through and is cucking you

Thanks bro. Yeah if you read one of my comments my grandparents are fucking short so some peasant crop farmer genetics seeped through into me brutal recomp but it ain't that bad

 

[aids]

It's never anything new dude.
Just run HGH + low-dose of non-steroidal AI to bring your E2 to the bottom of reference range.
Get an X-ray on your wrist to assess if growth plates have closed.
Take non-steroidal AI (slowly taper up to a still-low dose) + HGH.
Done.