Dbol estro side effects (roiders gtfih)

[Deleted member 66693]

Going to do 300 test weekly and 500iu hcg weekly for 12 weeks. I also bought dbol to use for the first 4 weeks.


Heard that dbol+hcg increases estro by a lot so is 12.5 mg asin eod good?

Will prob do bloods aswell in the middle of the cycle to check e2 and test

 

[Deleted member 66693]

@MA_ascender tagging you brah because u know a lot about this shit

 

[Deleted member 66693]

Ump

 

[asdvek]

yes

 

[Orc]

kickstarting with dbol when you're inexperienced is a bad idea.

 

[MA_ascender]

@MA_ascender tagging you brah because u know a lot about this shit

6.25 every other day

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ]

Going to do 300 test weekly and 500iu hcg weekly for 12 weeks. I also bought dbol to use for the first 4 weeks.


Heard that dbol+hcg increases estro by a lot so is 12.5 mg asin eod good?

Will prob do bloods aswell in the middle of the cycle to check e2 and test

Just do 250 test perma for a few months at first, then you can proceed to use other compounds.

"kickstarting" a cycle is just done because of impatience, it has no benefit other than that.

 

[Deleted member 66693]

Just do 250 test perma for a few months at first, then you can proceed to use other compounds.

"kickstarting" a cycle is just done because of impatience, it has no benefit other than that.

Well im planning to do 3 months then pct and do another cycle in maybe a year or 6 months
Yes im fucking impatient this id gonna be my first cycle im also stacking it with newbie gains because ive been going to the gym for 3 months

 

[Deleted member 66693]

6.25 every other day

Could i do 0m75 mg of letrozole every 3-4 days instead?

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ]

Well im planning to do 3 months then pct and do another cycle in maybe a year or 6 months

You won't keep any gains like that, most of it will be water weight. Trust me, this is for your best.

Yes im fucking impatient this id gonna be my first cycle im also stacking it with newbie gains because ive been going to the gym for 3 months

Start with test 250mg weekly, PCT can always be done once you made enough gains. Your HPA-axis will recover anyway, as it's a vital function of the body because in males most of the estrogen is made through the aromatization of testosterone so the body needs to produce testosterone.

Conclusion: Just blast and cruise for some time, once you made more than enough gains you can PCT.

 

[meathead]

Going to do 300 test weekly and 500iu hcg weekly for 12 weeks. I also bought dbol to use for the first 4 weeks.


Heard that dbol+hcg increases estro by a lot so is 12.5 mg asin eod good?

Will prob do bloods aswell in the middle of the cycle to check e2 and test

hcg alone increase e2
dbol converts to methyl e2 which far more potent then e2

be careful of gyno when taking dbol

 

[Deleted member 86214]

My question is what’s your exact goal with roids?

 

[Deleted member 66693]

My question is what’s your exact goal with roids?

Lean aesthetic physique which looks like youre natty but eith very good genetics, i alr have good insertions and frame i just dont have much muscle since ive been training for 3 months only

 

[Deleted member 66693]

You won't keep any gains like that, most of it will be water weight. Trust me, this is for your best.

Start with test 250mg weekly, PCT can always be done once you made enough gains. Your HPA-axis will recover anyway, as it's a vital function of the body because in males most of the estrogen is made through the aromatization of testosterone so the body needs to produce testosterone.

Conclusion: Just blast and cruise for some time, once you made more than enough gains you can PCT.

This cycle is more to test the waters and ill go all in on the next cycle

 

[Deleted member 66693]

kickstarting with dbol when you're inexperienced is a bad idea.

How long do unopened dbol pills last?

 

[Orc]

How long do unopened dbol pills last?

most pharma shit literally stays good for years

 

[Deleted member 66693]

most pharma shit literally stays good for years

One last question can i take letrozole 0.75 mg every 3-4 days instead of asin 6.25mg eod since letro is easier to find. Or would that lower my e2 too much

 

[meathead]

How long do unopened dbol pills last?

years and even then they degrade very slowly

you could still take them they just not that potent anymore

 

[craven]

12,5mg ed

 

[Deleted member 66693]

Could i do 0m75 mg of letrozole every 3-4 days instead?

^

12,5mg ed

years and even then they degrade very slowly

you could still take them they just not that potent anymore

 

[craven]

^

idk about letro
i only know aromasin and i also know that its better overall
maybe something stronger like letro is good with trashbol

 

[Deleted member 86214]

Lean aesthetic physique which looks like youre natty but eith very good genetics, i alr have good insertions and frame i just dont have much muscle since ive been training for 3 months only

so what I’d do is if you’re planning to hop on steroids right now only do orals.
Get something for liver support like N-Acetyl L-Cysteine and start of with something that does not or mildly suppress the natural hormone function and does not aromatize or slightly aromatize,Anavar is good for cutting,Supadrol is great for bulking but has more side effects on the liver.
For your first cycle, if you bulk only run supadrol for about 6 to 8 weeks but don’t go any longer since the side effects even on N-Acetyl L-Cysteine and go off cycle for 6 weeks,use Clomid or taximofen,for supadrol HCG is optional due to the Mild-Moderate suppression you can get.
On a cut only run Anavar,PCT isn’t supposed to be large due to the mild suppression so clomid of taximofen but keep a vial of HCG just incase.

 

[chadhamed]

kickstarting with dbol when you're inexperienced is a bad idea.

He wanna ascend fast

 

[Orc]

He wanna ascend fast

dbol bloats you like nothing else.

 

[Deleted member 66693]

so what I’d do is if you’re planning to hop on steroids right now only do orals.
Get something for liver support like N-Acetyl L-Cysteine and start of with something that does not or mildly suppress the natural hormone function and does not aromatize or slightly aromatize,Anavar is good for cutting,Supadrol is great for bulking but has more side effects on the liver.
For your first cycle, if you bulk only run supadrol for about 6 to 8 weeks but don’t go any longer since the side effects even on N-Acetyl L-Cysteine and go off cycle for 6 weeks,use Clomid or taximofen,for supadrol HCG is optional due to the Mild-Moderate suppression you can get.
On a cut only run Anavar,PCT isn’t supposed to be large due to the mild suppression so clomid of taximofen but keep a vial of HCG just incase.

Oral only cycle

 

[Deleted member 86214]

Oral only cycle

It’s better if you don’t want a body builder-like physique and more of a physique that looks like a natty with good genetics.

 

[Deleted member 66693]

It’s better if you don’t want a body builder-like physique and more of a physique that looks like a natty with good genetics.

I want to be big but like a natty with 15 years of training and good genetics

 

[meathead]

I want to be big but like a natty with 15 years of training and good genetics

i would smth else

300 test
300 primo or mast

 

[TeenagePharmacy]

This cycle is more to test the waters and ill go all in on the next cycle

Cycling is retarded. There’s a reason no one does it anymore. Blast and cruise is vastly superior and you won’t have to deal with the same mental sides when your cycle is up. No reason to make your hpta shutdown and startup over and over again when you can just run hcg the whole time and come off with enclo if you ever need to or want kids. Even then you can probably still have kids if you stay on test and increase hcg dose + add rfsh.

 

[TeenagePharmacy]

Also that’s a pretty large amount of asin to start before you even know how the cycle is going to affect you. Ideally you’d start with an ai then slowly titrate one as sides become apparent. Low e2 is way more miserable than high e2. There’s plenty of people that wouldn’t even need an ai at all with that cycle. Also dbol’s conversion to methylestrogen isn’t mediated by aromatase, that’s why it’s good to keep on hand if you ever do crash your estrogen.

 

[Deleted member 77820]

Going to do 300 test weekly and 500iu hcg weekly for 12 weeks. I also bought dbol to use for the first 4 weeks.


Heard that dbol+hcg increases estro by a lot so is 12.5 mg asin eod good?

Will prob do bloods aswell in the middle of the cycle to check e2 and test

Its hard to block dbol methylated estrogen
Your either have genes for its or not
Judge by sides not bloodwork with orals
I know someone who run dbol only with no ai if youve seen him youd swear his running super dry compound like tren masteron ect..

 

[Deleted member 77820]

Also that’s a pretty large amount of asin to start before you even know how the cycle is going to affect you. Ideally you’d start with an ai then slowly titrate one as sides become apparent. Low e2 is way more miserable than high e2. There’s plenty of people that wouldn’t even need an ai at all with that cycle. Also dbol’s conversion to methylestrogen isn’t mediated by aromatase, that’s why it’s good to keep on hand if you ever do crash your estrogen.

12.5 aromsin wouldn’t
Also he could try dim calcium D glucarate