Debunking Christianity

[20/04/2008]

Psalms 55:15, "Let death take my enemies by surprise; let them go down alive to the realm of the dead,


for evil finds lodging among them."
How should we treat our enemies?


Love Them


Exodus 23:4, "If you come across your enemy's ox or donkey wandering off, be sure to return it."

After expressing his fear of impending death at the hands of his enemies (Psalm


55:1-8) and mourning the betrayal of a former ally (Psalm 55:12-14), David prays for divine intervention, seeking God's help to defeat his enemies.


His justification for such a plea is the extreme evil exhibited by his foes (enemies)

Psalm 55:15 reflects the sentiments of the psalmist during a moment of distress and conflict. When one's life is in immediate danger from enemies, common sense and wisdom dictate the need for self-defense.


David, feeling defenseless, turned to God in prayer for protection.


While the Bible generally teaches love, even for one's enemies, there are moments when defeating one's enemies becomes a matter of self-preservation,


especially when one's life is at stake

Malachi 4:4, "Remember the law of my servant Moses, the decrees and laws I gave him at Mount Horeb for all Israel."

Where did Moses receive the 10 Commandments?


Mount Sinai


Exodus 31:18, "When the Lord finished speaking to Moses on Mount Sinai, he gave him the two tablets of the covenant law, the tablets of stone inscribed by the finger of God."

The name Sinai for the mountain is identical to Horeb. Evidence from Exodus 3:1 shows that on Horeb, the mountain of God, the Lord spoke to Moses through the burning bush. In Exodus 3:12, it is stated that "you (along with the people after leaving Egypt) will serve me on this


mountain! In Exodus 18:5,


they are near the mountain of God, which is in the desert of Sinai (as mentioned in Exodus 19:1) with the mountain Sinai (as mentioned in Exodus 19:18).

Moreover, on Sinal, with a great fire on it, the Ten Commandments were given on two tablets, according to Exodus 34:28. Similar features are seen in Deuteronomy 4:10 and 13 regarding the giving of the Law on Horeb. (The meaning of Sinai is unknown, while the


meaning of Horeb is likely


"dryness' or 'wilderness' according to the Lexikon zur Bibel, by Fritz Rienecker, pg 7, 1969) In essence, this plausibly refers to the same mountain but with different names

Exodus 22:2, "Do not hold back offerings from your granaries or your vats.


'You must give me the firstborn of your sons."

Does God get hard for human Sacrifice?


No


Dueternomy 18:10, "Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft,"

Exodus 22:29 does not imply human sacrifice. This verse pertains to dedicating firstborn sons to God, but not in the sense of sacrificing them. In the context of ancient Israelite religious practices, dedicating firstborn sons meant consecrating them for service in religious or priestly roles within the community, not for sacrifice.


Regarding Deuteronomy


18:10, it mentions burnt sacrifice, which is considered a sinful practice.

Exodus 15:3, "The lord is a man of war: the lord is his name."


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Is God a god of peace, or war?


War


Romans 15:33, "The God of peace be with you all.


Amen."
God is the God of War and peace does it evn make sense jfl

Exodus 20:13,You Shall not kill

No


Exodus 32:27, "Then he said to them, 'This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor!"

In exodus 20:13, The Hebrew word used in this verse is "ny?" (ratsach), which in the context of the Ten Commandments means


"murder" rather than "kill" in the broader sense. It specifically refers to the unjust or intentional taking of another person's life. The


• distinction here is very important because the Bible contains other verses that discuss circumstances in which killing may be permitted or even


commanded, such as in self-defense or during times of war (and in some instances because of a crime or grievous sin committed).

In Exodus 32:27, the Israelites had turned away from God and worshipped an idol despite being saved (by God) from the hands of 3 the Egyptians. This command is a response to the grievous sin of idolatry and the violation of the first two commandments of the Decalogue. Moses ordered the levites to execute judgement upon those who had been directly involved in idol worship.


So yes, murder is bad.

Mark 9:17, "A man in the crowd answered,


'Teacher, I brought you my son, who is possessed by a spirit that has robbed him of speech."

God


Exodus 4:11, "The Lord said to him, 'Who gave human beings their mouths? Who makes them deaf or mute? Who gives them sight or makes them blind? Is it not I, the Lord?"

In the context of this verse (exodus 4:11), Moses is expressing his reluctance and insecurity about his ability to lead the Israelites and to speak effectively to Pharach. He says that he is


"slow of speech and tongue," which mean that he had difficulty speaking or may have had a speech impediment.


Gods response in verse 11 is


areassurance to Moses.


God is basically saying that He is the one who created people, including their abilities and disabilities.

He (God) emphasizes that


He is the Lord and the ultimate authority over these matters. God then tells Moses that He will help him speak and teach him what to say, assuring Moses that he won't be alone in this task.

While in Mark 9:17 it talks about a boy who was possessed by a spirit and lost his speech. Entirely different context from


Exodus 4:11.


Now, God is sovereign and has ultimate control over all things, including the circumstances of people's lives. However, this doesn't mean that God directly causes every disability or affliction. Some disabilities may be the result of natural causes, genetic factors, accidents, illnesses, or demonic possession as in the case of the boy in Mark


9:17.

Exodus 2:14, "The man said, 'Who made you ruler and judge over us? Are you thinking of killing me as you killed the


Egyptian?' Then Moses was afraid and thought,


'What I did must have become known!"

Was Moses afraid of the Pharoh?


No


Hebrews 11:27, "By faith he forsook Egypt. Not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible."

	Moses was initially afraid to
	go to Pharaoh because he
	didn't think he could speak
	very well (Exodus 4:10), but
	he was then reassured by
	God that He will helo him
	speak and teach Moses
	what to say, assuring Moses
	that he won't be alone in
	this task. Moses had faith so
	he overcomed his fear as
	affirmed in Hebrews 11:27.
	Ironic enough, blud already
	answered this question with
	both verses

John 4:24, "God is a Spirit: and that they worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

Does god have a physical body?


Yes


Exodus 34:5, "Then the Lord came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimed his name, the Lord."

No, In Exodus 34:5, when it says "God came down," it's a way of describing God's interaction with the physical world or with humanity. This is referred to as


anthropomorphic language, where God is described in human-like terms to help convey concepts that are beyond human comprehension. It doesn't mean that God literally has a physical body, but rather it's a way of describing God's presence or action.

Throughout the Bible, God is depicted as engaging with humanity through various means, such as through angels, visions, and manifestations like the burning bush. These are ways in which God communicates with and relates to people without implying a physical body

 

[20/04/2008]

@PrinceLuenLeoncur

 

[20/04/2008]

@2025cel

 

[20/04/2008]

I would continue in the comments jfl

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Jew

 

[20/04/2008]

Jew

They kinda made fun of me if they didn’t i wouldn’t care they also insult other religions
Religion of forgiveness my ass

 

[20/04/2008]

Deuteronomy 27:22,


'Cursed is anyone who sleeps with his sister, the daughter of his father or the daughter of his mother! Then all the people shall say, 'Amen!''

Is incest bad?


No


Exodus 6:20, "Amram married his father's sister Jochebed, who bore him Aaron and Moses. Amram lived 137 years."

 

[fluxx]

dnr but probably a good thread

 

[asdvek]

"Looksmaxxing"

 

[2025cel]

This thread should've been posted on offtopic bruv

 

[yex]

Jew

Jews make more sense than retarded christians who believe in a man who was fucking jewish and promoted judaism and didn't have any intent to start a new fucking religion.

 

[yex]

Jews make more sense than retarded christians who believe in a man who was fucking jewish and promoted judaism and didn't have any intent to start a new fucking religion.

Bump. Retard

 

[20/04/2008]

"Looksmaxxing"

Yes its actually those niggas literally miss out on their fckn life time doing silly shit for a god that will deny them in the after life
But an atheist like you wouldn’t get it

 

[20/04/2008]

@2025cel i don’t think his gonna respobd any time soon
@PrinceLuenLeoncur

 

[yex]

Psalms, Exodus, David, Malachi, All of these books and characters are jewish and of jewish tradition. This is all jewish. This is not even christian, stop acting like it's christian, it's all jewish and from the torah. Jews made this

 

[20/04/2008]

Psalms, Exodus, David, Malachi, All of these books and characters are jewish and of jewish tradition. This is all jewish. This is not even christian, stop acting like it's christian, it's all jewish and from the torah. Jews made this

Are you jewish ????

 

[2025cel]

Jews make more sense than retarded christians who believe in a man who was fucking jewish and promoted judaism and didn't have any intent to start a new fucking religion.

The intent was there, keep coping.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Great looksmaxxing advice

 

[20/04/2008]

@King Solomon

 

[yex]

The intent was there, keep coping.

His only intent was to promote Judaism differently than how the rabbis used to at the time, His concepts were different than the usual Jewish laws which what led to the local jewish authorities to get mad abt him, and the romans were concerned with maintaining order and avoiding rebellion (cus it was the roman empire and they didnt like ppl who were overly loud) then the they crucified that poor fella. over.
it's not that deep ngger

 

[2025cel]

His only intent was to promote Judaism differently than how the rabbis used to at the time, His concepts were different than the usual Jewish laws which what led to the local jewish authorities to get mad abt him, and the romans were concerned with maintaining order and avoiding rebellion (cus it was the roman empire and they didnt like ppl who were overly loud) then the they crucified that poor fella. over.
it's not that deep ngger

This is clusterfuarked tbh, your theory could make sense if it wasn't for the fact that he was, throughout his whole life "brainwashed" Into adopting Judaism only,
You say that it ain't that deep, even tho with your theory, you just made it more complex rather than simplifying it.

 

[20/04/2008]

His only intent was to promote Judaism differently than how the rabbis used to at the time, His concepts were different than the usual Jewish laws which what led to the local jewish authorities to get mad abt him, and the romans were concerned with maintaining order and avoiding rebellion (cus it was the roman empire and they didnt like ppl who were overly loud) then the they crucified that poor fella. over.
it's not that deep ngger

 

[20/04/2008]

This is clusterfuarked tbh, your theory could make sense if it wasn't for the fact that he was, throughout his whole life "brainwashed" Into adopting Judaism only,
You say that it ain't that deep, even tho with your theory, you just made it more complex rather than simplifying it.

Jesus in islam didn’t die
+god tell us in a verse in the quran that when christian would go to hell he will thrm
He never told you to believe in him as a god but only as god prophet which make perfect sense if you read the bible and wasn’t brainwashed by your parents as a kiddo

 

[yex]

This is clusterfuarked tbh, your theory could make sense if it wasn't for the fact that he was, throughout his whole life "brainwashed" Into adopting Judaism only,
You say that it ain't that deep, even tho with your theory, you just made it more complex rather than simplifying it.

I simplfyed it so you could understand. Every single thing i said was facts. This is all true. And what the fuck do you mean he was brainwashed into accepting judaism This is BCE he couldn't get on quran.com and accept islam JFL he grew up as a jew because that's the only thing he knew and thats the only thing everybody knew at the time other than false gods.

 

[2025cel]

I simplfyed it so you could understand. Every single thing i said was facts. This is all true. And what the fuck do you mean he was brainwashed into accepting judaism This is BCE he couldn't get on quran.com and accept islam JFL he grew up as a jew because that's the only thing he knew and thats the only thing everybody knew at the time other than false gods.

Exactly, so that's why he couldn't have thought of different type of "Judaism"

 

[yex]

Exactly, so that's why he couldn't have thought of different type of "Judaism"

He just raised up physiological questions and believed in different values when it comes to judaism, Why would he need any different type of judaism? I don't think it's needed. He just thought slightly diff stuff from the regular jews. so what. he's still a jew just like all the other jews

 

[2025cel]

He just raised up physiological questions and believed in different values when it comes to judaism, Why would he need any different type of judaism? I don't think it's needed. He just thought slightly diff stuff from the regular jews. so what. he's still a jew just like all the other jews

What physiological questions?

 

[moreroidsmoredates]

Dnr

 

[yex]

What physiological questions?

1 Jesus was critical of religious leaders who focused on outward appearances of piety while neglecting the inner transformation of the heart. He condemned hypocrisy, as seen in his rebukes of the Pharisees

2 Jesus often disagreed with those who prioritized strict adherence to the law over showing love and compassion. For example, when he healed on the Sabbath, he was criticized by religious leaders who emphasized Sabbath rules over the good that could be done on that day

3 He rejected the idea that certain groups of people, such as tax collectors, sinners, or the poor, were to be excluded or condemned. Jesus reached out to these people, offering them forgiveness and inclusion, much to the dismay of those who thought they were unworthy

4 In his teachings, Jesus urged love, forgiveness, and non-violence, countering the common "eye for an eye" mentality (e.g., Matthew 5:38-39). This was a radical departure from many societal attitudes at the time.

5 Jesus taught humility and warned against self-righteousness, urging people not to judge others harshly (e.g., Matthew 7:1-5).

 

[nullandvoid]

Jesus in islam didn’t die
+god tell us in a verse in the quran that when christian would go to hell he will thrm
He never told you to believe in him as a god but only as god prophet which make perfect sense if you read the bible and wasn’t brainwashed by your parents as a kiddo

Akhi in islam, there is no problem in debating people of other faiths but there's a certain decorum that must be kept, like the prophet (sallalahu alayhi wasallam) had.


"Once, in a vast orchard, there were two gardeners tasked with nurturing a young tree. The tree was delicate, its branches reaching toward the sky but still uncertain in its growth.

The first gardener, impatient to see the tree flourish, grabbed a bucket of water and poured it all at once over the roots. He pulled at the branches forcefully, hoping to make them grow straighter. He scolded the tree for being weak and not growing fast enough. But the tree, overwhelmed by the sudden rush of water and rough handling, bent away from the gardener and its roots loosened in the soil.

The second gardener, however, approached with wisdom and patience. He watered the tree gently, little by little, allowing the roots to absorb the nourishment. He removed the weeds around it with care and spoke kindly to it, ensuring it had the sunlight and space it needed to grow. Over time, the tree stood tall and strong, its branches spreading wide, bearing sweet fruit.

Dawah is like tending to a tree."

May allah turn our hearts towards righteousness, piety, good intentions, softness, tenderness and humanity

 

[UltimateCoper.]

Psalms 55:15, "Let death take my enemies by surprise; let them go down alive to the realm of the dead,


for evil finds lodging among them."
How should we treat our enemies?


Love Them


Exodus 23:4, "If you come across your enemy's ox or donkey wandering off, be sure to return it."

After expressing his fear of impending death at the hands of his enemies (Psalm


55:1-8) and mourning the betrayal of a former ally (Psalm 55:12-14), David prays for divine intervention, seeking God's help to defeat his enemies.


His justification for such a plea is the extreme evil exhibited by his foes (enemies)

Psalm 55:15 reflects the sentiments of the psalmist during a moment of distress and conflict. When one's life is in immediate danger from enemies, common sense and wisdom dictate the need for self-defense.


David, feeling defenseless, turned to God in prayer for protection.


While the Bible generally teaches love, even for one's enemies, there are moments when defeating one's enemies becomes a matter of self-preservation,


especially when one's life is at stake

Malachi 4:4, "Remember the law of my servant Moses, the decrees and laws I gave him at Mount Horeb for all Israel."

Where did Moses receive the 10 Commandments?


Mount Sinai


Exodus 31:18, "When the Lord finished speaking to Moses on Mount Sinai, he gave him the two tablets of the covenant law, the tablets of stone inscribed by the finger of God."

The name Sinai for the mountain is identical to Horeb. Evidence from Exodus 3:1 shows that on Horeb, the mountain of God, the Lord spoke to Moses through the burning bush. In Exodus 3:12, it is stated that "you (along with the people after leaving Egypt) will serve me on this


mountain! In Exodus 18:5,


they are near the mountain of God, which is in the desert of Sinai (as mentioned in Exodus 19:1) with the mountain Sinai (as mentioned in Exodus 19:18).

Moreover, on Sinal, with a great fire on it, the Ten Commandments were given on two tablets, according to Exodus 34:28. Similar features are seen in Deuteronomy 4:10 and 13 regarding the giving of the Law on Horeb. (The meaning of Sinai is unknown, while the


meaning of Horeb is likely


"dryness' or 'wilderness' according to the Lexikon zur Bibel, by Fritz Rienecker, pg 7, 1969) In essence, this plausibly refers to the same mountain but with different names

Exodus 22:2, "Do not hold back offerings from your granaries or your vats.


'You must give me the firstborn of your sons."

Does God get hard for human Sacrifice?


No


Dueternomy 18:10, "Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft,"

Exodus 22:29 does not imply human sacrifice. This verse pertains to dedicating firstborn sons to God, but not in the sense of sacrificing them. In the context of ancient Israelite religious practices, dedicating firstborn sons meant consecrating them for service in religious or priestly roles within the community, not for sacrifice.


Regarding Deuteronomy


18:10, it mentions burnt sacrifice, which is considered a sinful practice.

Exodus 15:3, "The lord is a man of war: the lord is his name."


14分




Is God a god of peace, or war?


War


Romans 15:33, "The God of peace be with you all.


Amen."
God is the God of War and peace does it evn make sense jfl

Exodus 20:13,You Shall not kill

No


Exodus 32:27, "Then he said to them, 'This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor!"

In exodus 20:13, The Hebrew word used in this verse is "ny?" (ratsach), which in the context of the Ten Commandments means


"murder" rather than "kill" in the broader sense. It specifically refers to the unjust or intentional taking of another person's life. The


• distinction here is very important because the Bible contains other verses that discuss circumstances in which killing may be permitted or even


commanded, such as in self-defense or during times of war (and in some instances because of a crime or grievous sin committed).

In Exodus 32:27, the Israelites had turned away from God and worshipped an idol despite being saved (by God) from the hands of 3 the Egyptians. This command is a response to the grievous sin of idolatry and the violation of the first two commandments of the Decalogue. Moses ordered the levites to execute judgement upon those who had been directly involved in idol worship.


So yes, murder is bad.

Mark 9:17, "A man in the crowd answered,


'Teacher, I brought you my son, who is possessed by a spirit that has robbed him of speech."

God


Exodus 4:11, "The Lord said to him, 'Who gave human beings their mouths? Who makes them deaf or mute? Who gives them sight or makes them blind? Is it not I, the Lord?"

In the context of this verse (exodus 4:11), Moses is expressing his reluctance and insecurity about his ability to lead the Israelites and to speak effectively to Pharach. He says that he is


"slow of speech and tongue," which mean that he had difficulty speaking or may have had a speech impediment.


Gods response in verse 11 is


areassurance to Moses.


God is basically saying that He is the one who created people, including their abilities and disabilities.

He (God) emphasizes that


He is the Lord and the ultimate authority over these matters. God then tells Moses that He will help him speak and teach him what to say, assuring Moses that he won't be alone in this task.

While in Mark 9:17 it talks about a boy who was possessed by a spirit and lost his speech. Entirely different context from


Exodus 4:11.


Now, God is sovereign and has ultimate control over all things, including the circumstances of people's lives. However, this doesn't mean that God directly causes every disability or affliction. Some disabilities may be the result of natural causes, genetic factors, accidents, illnesses, or demonic possession as in the case of the boy in Mark


9:17.

Exodus 2:14, "The man said, 'Who made you ruler and judge over us? Are you thinking of killing me as you killed the


Egyptian?' Then Moses was afraid and thought,


'What I did must have become known!"

Was Moses afraid of the Pharoh?


No


Hebrews 11:27, "By faith he forsook Egypt. Not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible."

	Moses was initially afraid to
	go to Pharaoh because he
	didn't think he could speak
	very well (Exodus 4:10), but
	he was then reassured by
	God that He will helo him
	speak and teach Moses
	what to say, assuring Moses
	that he won't be alone in
	this task. Moses had faith so
	he overcomed his fear as
	affirmed in Hebrews 11:27.
	Ironic enough, blud already
	answered this question with
	both verses

John 4:24, "God is a Spirit: and that they worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

Does god have a physical body?


Yes


Exodus 34:5, "Then the Lord came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimed his name, the Lord."

No, In Exodus 34:5, when it says "God came down," it's a way of describing God's interaction with the physical world or with humanity. This is referred to as


anthropomorphic language, where God is described in human-like terms to help convey concepts that are beyond human comprehension. It doesn't mean that God literally has a physical body, but rather it's a way of describing God's presence or action.

Throughout the Bible, God is depicted as engaging with humanity through various means, such as through angels, visions, and manifestations like the burning bush. These are ways in which God communicates with and relates to people without implying a physical body

Interesting

 

[klip11]

"Looksmaxxing"

He's jestermaxxing for Jesus

 

[aloooeJIEEES]

Psalms 55:15, "Let death take my enemies by surprise; let them go down alive to the realm of the dead,


for evil finds lodging among them."
How should we treat our enemies?


Love Them


Exodus 23:4, "If you come across your enemy's ox or donkey wandering off, be sure to return it."

After expressing his fear of impending death at the hands of his enemies (Psalm


55:1-8) and mourning the betrayal of a former ally (Psalm 55:12-14), David prays for divine intervention, seeking God's help to defeat his enemies.


His justification for such a plea is the extreme evil exhibited by his foes (enemies)

Psalm 55:15 reflects the sentiments of the psalmist during a moment of distress and conflict. When one's life is in immediate danger from enemies, common sense and wisdom dictate the need for self-defense.


David, feeling defenseless, turned to God in prayer for protection.


While the Bible generally teaches love, even for one's enemies, there are moments when defeating one's enemies becomes a matter of self-preservation,


especially when one's life is at stake

Malachi 4:4, "Remember the law of my servant Moses, the decrees and laws I gave him at Mount Horeb for all Israel."

Where did Moses receive the 10 Commandments?


Mount Sinai


Exodus 31:18, "When the Lord finished speaking to Moses on Mount Sinai, he gave him the two tablets of the covenant law, the tablets of stone inscribed by the finger of God."

The name Sinai for the mountain is identical to Horeb. Evidence from Exodus 3:1 shows that on Horeb, the mountain of God, the Lord spoke to Moses through the burning bush. In Exodus 3:12, it is stated that "you (along with the people after leaving Egypt) will serve me on this


mountain! In Exodus 18:5,


they are near the mountain of God, which is in the desert of Sinai (as mentioned in Exodus 19:1) with the mountain Sinai (as mentioned in Exodus 19:18).

Moreover, on Sinal, with a great fire on it, the Ten Commandments were given on two tablets, according to Exodus 34:28. Similar features are seen in Deuteronomy 4:10 and 13 regarding the giving of the Law on Horeb. (The meaning of Sinai is unknown, while the


meaning of Horeb is likely


"dryness' or 'wilderness' according to the Lexikon zur Bibel, by Fritz Rienecker, pg 7, 1969) In essence, this plausibly refers to the same mountain but with different names

Exodus 22:2, "Do not hold back offerings from your granaries or your vats.


'You must give me the firstborn of your sons."

Does God get hard for human Sacrifice?


No


Dueternomy 18:10, "Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft,"

Exodus 22:29 does not imply human sacrifice. This verse pertains to dedicating firstborn sons to God, but not in the sense of sacrificing them. In the context of ancient Israelite religious practices, dedicating firstborn sons meant consecrating them for service in religious or priestly roles within the community, not for sacrifice.


Regarding Deuteronomy


18:10, it mentions burnt sacrifice, which is considered a sinful practice.

Exodus 15:3, "The lord is a man of war: the lord is his name."


14分




Is God a god of peace, or war?


War


Romans 15:33, "The God of peace be with you all.


Amen."
God is the God of War and peace does it evn make sense jfl

Exodus 20:13,You Shall not kill

No


Exodus 32:27, "Then he said to them, 'This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor!"

In exodus 20:13, The Hebrew word used in this verse is "ny?" (ratsach), which in the context of the Ten Commandments means


"murder" rather than "kill" in the broader sense. It specifically refers to the unjust or intentional taking of another person's life. The


• distinction here is very important because the Bible contains other verses that discuss circumstances in which killing may be permitted or even


commanded, such as in self-defense or during times of war (and in some instances because of a crime or grievous sin committed).

In Exodus 32:27, the Israelites had turned away from God and worshipped an idol despite being saved (by God) from the hands of 3 the Egyptians. This command is a response to the grievous sin of idolatry and the violation of the first two commandments of the Decalogue. Moses ordered the levites to execute judgement upon those who had been directly involved in idol worship.


So yes, murder is bad.

Mark 9:17, "A man in the crowd answered,


'Teacher, I brought you my son, who is possessed by a spirit that has robbed him of speech."

God


Exodus 4:11, "The Lord said to him, 'Who gave human beings their mouths? Who makes them deaf or mute? Who gives them sight or makes them blind? Is it not I, the Lord?"

In the context of this verse (exodus 4:11), Moses is expressing his reluctance and insecurity about his ability to lead the Israelites and to speak effectively to Pharach. He says that he is


"slow of speech and tongue," which mean that he had difficulty speaking or may have had a speech impediment.


Gods response in verse 11 is


areassurance to Moses.


God is basically saying that He is the one who created people, including their abilities and disabilities.

He (God) emphasizes that


He is the Lord and the ultimate authority over these matters. God then tells Moses that He will help him speak and teach him what to say, assuring Moses that he won't be alone in this task.

While in Mark 9:17 it talks about a boy who was possessed by a spirit and lost his speech. Entirely different context from


Exodus 4:11.


Now, God is sovereign and has ultimate control over all things, including the circumstances of people's lives. However, this doesn't mean that God directly causes every disability or affliction. Some disabilities may be the result of natural causes, genetic factors, accidents, illnesses, or demonic possession as in the case of the boy in Mark


9:17.

Exodus 2:14, "The man said, 'Who made you ruler and judge over us? Are you thinking of killing me as you killed the


Egyptian?' Then Moses was afraid and thought,


'What I did must have become known!"

Was Moses afraid of the Pharoh?


No


Hebrews 11:27, "By faith he forsook Egypt. Not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible."

	Moses was initially afraid to
	go to Pharaoh because he
	didn't think he could speak
	very well (Exodus 4:10), but
	he was then reassured by
	God that He will helo him
	speak and teach Moses
	what to say, assuring Moses
	that he won't be alone in
	this task. Moses had faith so
	he overcomed his fear as
	affirmed in Hebrews 11:27.
	Ironic enough, blud already
	answered this question with
	both verses

John 4:24, "God is a Spirit: and that they worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

Does god have a physical body?


Yes


Exodus 34:5, "Then the Lord came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimed his name, the Lord."

No, In Exodus 34:5, when it says "God came down," it's a way of describing God's interaction with the physical world or with humanity. This is referred to as


anthropomorphic language, where God is described in human-like terms to help convey concepts that are beyond human comprehension. It doesn't mean that God literally has a physical body, but rather it's a way of describing God's presence or action.

Throughout the Bible, God is depicted as engaging with humanity through various means, such as through angels, visions, and manifestations like the burning bush. These are ways in which God communicates with and relates to people without implying a physical body

Retarded ass thread with how it seems retarded ass author

 

[NevaSure]

How did this retard got in here

 

[voluptuousness]

Psalms 55:15, "Let death take my enemies by surprise; let them go down alive to the realm of the dead,


for evil finds lodging among them."
How should we treat our enemies?


Love Them


Exodus 23:4, "If you come across your enemy's ox or donkey wandering off, be sure to return it."

After expressing his fear of impending death at the hands of his enemies (Psalm


55:1-8) and mourning the betrayal of a former ally (Psalm 55:12-14), David prays for divine intervention, seeking God's help to defeat his enemies.


His justification for such a plea is the extreme evil exhibited by his foes (enemies)

Psalm 55:15 reflects the sentiments of the psalmist during a moment of distress and conflict. When one's life is in immediate danger from enemies, common sense and wisdom dictate the need for self-defense.


David, feeling defenseless, turned to God in prayer for protection.


While the Bible generally teaches love, even for one's enemies, there are moments when defeating one's enemies becomes a matter of self-preservation,


especially when one's life is at stake

Malachi 4:4, "Remember the law of my servant Moses, the decrees and laws I gave him at Mount Horeb for all Israel."

Where did Moses receive the 10 Commandments?


Mount Sinai


Exodus 31:18, "When the Lord finished speaking to Moses on Mount Sinai, he gave him the two tablets of the covenant law, the tablets of stone inscribed by the finger of God."

The name Sinai for the mountain is identical to Horeb. Evidence from Exodus 3:1 shows that on Horeb, the mountain of God, the Lord spoke to Moses through the burning bush. In Exodus 3:12, it is stated that "you (along with the people after leaving Egypt) will serve me on this


mountain! In Exodus 18:5,


they are near the mountain of God, which is in the desert of Sinai (as mentioned in Exodus 19:1) with the mountain Sinai (as mentioned in Exodus 19:18).

Moreover, on Sinal, with a great fire on it, the Ten Commandments were given on two tablets, according to Exodus 34:28. Similar features are seen in Deuteronomy 4:10 and 13 regarding the giving of the Law on Horeb. (The meaning of Sinai is unknown, while the


meaning of Horeb is likely


"dryness' or 'wilderness' according to the Lexikon zur Bibel, by Fritz Rienecker, pg 7, 1969) In essence, this plausibly refers to the same mountain but with different names

Exodus 22:2, "Do not hold back offerings from your granaries or your vats.


'You must give me the firstborn of your sons."

Does God get hard for human Sacrifice?


No


Dueternomy 18:10, "Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft,"

Exodus 22:29 does not imply human sacrifice. This verse pertains to dedicating firstborn sons to God, but not in the sense of sacrificing them. In the context of ancient Israelite religious practices, dedicating firstborn sons meant consecrating them for service in religious or priestly roles within the community, not for sacrifice.


Regarding Deuteronomy


18:10, it mentions burnt sacrifice, which is considered a sinful practice.

Exodus 15:3, "The lord is a man of war: the lord is his name."


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Is God a god of peace, or war?


War


Romans 15:33, "The God of peace be with you all.


Amen."
God is the God of War and peace does it evn make sense jfl

Exodus 20:13,You Shall not kill

No


Exodus 32:27, "Then he said to them, 'This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor!"

In exodus 20:13, The Hebrew word used in this verse is "ny?" (ratsach), which in the context of the Ten Commandments means


"murder" rather than "kill" in the broader sense. It specifically refers to the unjust or intentional taking of another person's life. The


• distinction here is very important because the Bible contains other verses that discuss circumstances in which killing may be permitted or even


commanded, such as in self-defense or during times of war (and in some instances because of a crime or grievous sin committed).

In Exodus 32:27, the Israelites had turned away from God and worshipped an idol despite being saved (by God) from the hands of 3 the Egyptians. This command is a response to the grievous sin of idolatry and the violation of the first two commandments of the Decalogue. Moses ordered the levites to execute judgement upon those who had been directly involved in idol worship.


So yes, murder is bad.

Mark 9:17, "A man in the crowd answered,


'Teacher, I brought you my son, who is possessed by a spirit that has robbed him of speech."

God


Exodus 4:11, "The Lord said to him, 'Who gave human beings their mouths? Who makes them deaf or mute? Who gives them sight or makes them blind? Is it not I, the Lord?"

In the context of this verse (exodus 4:11), Moses is expressing his reluctance and insecurity about his ability to lead the Israelites and to speak effectively to Pharach. He says that he is


"slow of speech and tongue," which mean that he had difficulty speaking or may have had a speech impediment.


Gods response in verse 11 is


areassurance to Moses.


God is basically saying that He is the one who created people, including their abilities and disabilities.

He (God) emphasizes that


He is the Lord and the ultimate authority over these matters. God then tells Moses that He will help him speak and teach him what to say, assuring Moses that he won't be alone in this task.

While in Mark 9:17 it talks about a boy who was possessed by a spirit and lost his speech. Entirely different context from


Exodus 4:11.


Now, God is sovereign and has ultimate control over all things, including the circumstances of people's lives. However, this doesn't mean that God directly causes every disability or affliction. Some disabilities may be the result of natural causes, genetic factors, accidents, illnesses, or demonic possession as in the case of the boy in Mark


9:17.

Exodus 2:14, "The man said, 'Who made you ruler and judge over us? Are you thinking of killing me as you killed the


Egyptian?' Then Moses was afraid and thought,


'What I did must have become known!"

Was Moses afraid of the Pharoh?


No


Hebrews 11:27, "By faith he forsook Egypt. Not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible."

	Moses was initially afraid to
	go to Pharaoh because he
	didn't think he could speak
	very well (Exodus 4:10), but
	he was then reassured by
	God that He will helo him
	speak and teach Moses
	what to say, assuring Moses
	that he won't be alone in
	this task. Moses had faith so
	he overcomed his fear as
	affirmed in Hebrews 11:27.
	Ironic enough, blud already
	answered this question with
	both verses

John 4:24, "God is a Spirit: and that they worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

Does god have a physical body?


Yes


Exodus 34:5, "Then the Lord came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimed his name, the Lord."

No, In Exodus 34:5, when it says "God came down," it's a way of describing God's interaction with the physical world or with humanity. This is referred to as


anthropomorphic language, where God is described in human-like terms to help convey concepts that are beyond human comprehension. It doesn't mean that God literally has a physical body, but rather it's a way of describing God's presence or action.

Throughout the Bible, God is depicted as engaging with humanity through various means, such as through angels, visions, and manifestations like the burning bush. These are ways in which God communicates with and relates to people without implying a physical body

the best looksmaxxing advice to ever touch this forum

 

[20/04/2008]

Akhi in islam, there is no problem in debating people of other faiths but there's a certain decorum that must be kept, like the prophet (sallalahu alayhi wasallam) had.


"Once, in a vast orchard, there were two gardeners tasked with nurturing a young tree. The tree was delicate, its branches reaching toward the sky but still uncertain in its growth.

The first gardener, impatient to see the tree flourish, grabbed a bucket of water and poured it all at once over the roots. He pulled at the branches forcefully, hoping to make them grow straighter. He scolded the tree for being weak and not growing fast enough. But the tree, overwhelmed by the sudden rush of water and rough handling, bent away from the gardener and its roots loosened in the soil.

The second gardener, however, approached with wisdom and patience. He watered the tree gently, little by little, allowing the roots to absorb the nourishment. He removed the weeds around it with care and spoke kindly to it, ensuring it had the sunlight and space it needed to grow. Over time, the tree stood tall and strong, its branches spreading wide, bearing sweet fruit.

Dawah is like tending to a tree."

May allah turn our hearts towards righteousness, piety, good intentions, softness, tenderness and humanity

Good luck doing that on org My brother

 

[20/04/2008]

He just raised up physiological questions and believed in different values when it comes to judaism, Why would he need any different type of judaism? I don't think it's needed. He just thought slightly diff stuff from the regular jews. so what. he's still a jew just like all the other jews

Jesus wasn’t jewish

 

[nullandvoid]

Good luck doing that on org My brother

Even if they themselves lack respect and politeness, you shouldn't stoop down to their level.

 

[nullandvoid]

Jesus wasn’t jewish

Ethnically he was, he's from bani israel.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Ethnically he was, he's from bani israel.

I have already debunked this faggot OP stop replying to him and bumping this shit thread. He abandoned my response thread after I embarrassed him in front of the whole form

 

[20/04/2008]

Ethnically he was, he's from bani israel.

I know
Im talking religiously

 

[20/04/2008]

I have already debunked this faggot OP stop replying to him and bumping this shit thread. He abandoned my response thread after I embarrassed him in front of the whole form

@nullandvoid do i reply to him like i have atleast like 250 other inconsistencies on the bible

 

[nullandvoid]

@nullandvoid do i reply to him like i have atleast like 250 other inconsistencies on the bible

If he's acting stubborn and the debate isn't going anywhere then nah, up to you man, just make sure your arguments and points are cohesive + consistent.

 

[20/04/2008]

I have already debunked this faggot OP stop replying to him and bumping this shit thread. He abandoned my response thread after I embarrassed him in front of the whole form

Genesis 8:21: "The Lord smelled the pleasing aroma and said in his heart: 'Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even thoughevery inclination of


God won't curse the earththe human heart is evil


again


from childhood. And never again will I destroy all living creatures, as I have done.


Will god curse the earth again or not?


Malachi 4:6: "He will turn the hearts of the parents to their children, and the


hearts of the children to< God will curse the earthin their parents; or else I will


again


come and strike the land with total destruction!"

Job 42:1-2: "Then Job replied to the Lord: 'I know that you can do all things; no purpose of yours can be thwarted. "


So can god do anything or not?


Hebrews 6:18: "The Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the


reclotheshans


inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron."


< God is weak to iron

Genesis 2:2: "By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work."


5/(29


So does god work on the sabbath or not?


John 5:17: "In his defense Jesus said to them, 'My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am

 

[Quncho]

Genesis 8:21: "The Lord smelled the pleasing aroma and said in his heart: 'Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even thoughevery inclination of


God won't curse the earththe human heart is evil


again


from childhood. And never again will I destroy all living creatures, as I have done.


Will god curse the earth again or not?


Malachi 4:6: "He will turn the hearts of the parents to their children, and the


hearts of the children to< God will curse the earthin their parents; or else I will


again


come and strike the land with total destruction!"

Job 42:1-2: "Then Job replied to the Lord: 'I know that you can do all things; no purpose of yours can be thwarted. "


So can god do anything or not?


Hebrews 6:18: "The Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the


reclotheshans


inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron."


< God is weak to iron

Genesis 2:2: "By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work."


5/(29


So does god work on the sabbath or not?


John 5:17: "In his defense Jesus said to them, 'My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am

These are questions not proof

 

[20/04/2008]

These are questions not proof

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