Debunking Retard Graycel's Thread

[0hMan]

(reupload from thread because people need to read)

Leanmaxing will be the end of you

the reality is that Leanmaxing especially doing so aggressively will negatively impact all your other max’s - including testosterone maxing, sex maxing, growth and height maxing in some cases and social maxing it could even affect money-maxing Now before I start I wanna say if you’re a fat guy...

looksmax.org

This graycel says leanmaxxing is bad, and ironically all of his reasons are the opposite of the truth.
Let's dive into it.

testosterone maxing- if you are depriving your body of calories and nutrients for an extended period of time it’s known that in turn your test decreases and this can be a large decrease

Verdict: Not true, fasting increases T: this study shows a 180% increase from a 56 hour water fast

Pituitary-testicular axis in obese men during short-term fasting - PubMed

To investigate whether short-term fasting affects the pituitary-testicular axis in obese subjects, 9 massively obese men (Body Mass Index 39.0 +/- 1.3, mean +/- SEM) were given two identical iv GnRH tests, the first (control) after an overnight fast, the second after 56 h of food deprivation...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Sex maxing - how are you meant to be a dominant figure and dominate a woman when you have test levels of a 90 year old granny and have her energy levels bcos you eat 3.5 almonds a day to achieve hollow cheeks

Verdict: Baseless, this is based on the T theory which is ultimately untrue.

Height and height maxing - if you are in your puberty years it is important to fuel your body for the changes that are to come you won’t grow a flower without watering it the same your body won’t grow and develop properly if you don’t feed it

I'm 16. Been doing water fasts repeatedly for about a year and have grown 3 inches in that amount of time. This is after my growth spurt as well. There's also proof fasting increases HGH, study:

Fasting enhances growth hormone secretion and amplifies the complex rhythms of growth hormone secretion in man.

Studies in man have shown that the episodic release of growth hormone (GH) is infrequent and erratic, and unlike that in the rat does not appear to have discernible ultradian periodicities. However, these observations in nonfasted subjects may be invalid ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Water fasting for multiple days spikes HGH, 300% in 3 days, 1250% in one week.

Social maxing - I can attest to this as I’m sure others can but when you are really lean and are on a very low cal diet you’re more irritable and less sociable in general it’s harder to meet and make new friends bcos of mood levels also if you are taking it rlly seriously you will begin to avoid social events as things like food will be there or you just might not even want to anymore bcos of your energy and or mood levels

I am more NT and can easily talk to people more often when I'm water fasting. This could be just me, however.

Money maxing - if you diet hard enough making money outside of a job, for example starting a business will be so much harder as your motivation levels will be dead low amd everything will seem like a chore and you’ll have no drive due to lack of testosterone

This is based off of "muh T" which I already debunked, fasting increases T

The fact that this thread needed to be even posted is beyond me.
Stop listening to graycels.

 

[Reformed]

I swear there’s only like 5 people here who’ve actually gotten to 10% bf

 

[awesomemc101]

he mixed up leanmaxxing and anorexia

 

[coispet]

haven’t read but good thread

i join you in unison for tiktok greycel slander

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Fasting decreases testosterone. The study states the men were massively obese and in the conclusion they state that they as such infer that it works differently in non obese men. HGH is the death hormone, theres nothing good about fasting or starving. If you want to lose weight you should overload on thyroid caffeine aspirin and if youre really fat, DNP.

 

[Bro-Steve]

This graycel says leanmaxxing is bad,

Literally not what I said but okay, I said Leanmaxing if you are above 20 percent body fat is pretty much essential, I was onabout the individuals who are practically starving them selves thinking they are doing more good than bad

 

[Whatashame]

(reupload from thread because people need to read)

Leanmaxing will be the end of you

the reality is that Leanmaxing especially doing so aggressively will negatively impact all your other max’s - including testosterone maxing, sex maxing, growth and height maxing in some cases and social maxing it could even affect money-maxing Now before I start I wanna say if you’re a fat guy...

looksmax.org

This graycel says leanmaxxing is bad, and ironically all of his reasons are the opposite of the truth.
Let's dive into it.


Verdict: Not true, fasting increases T: this study shows a 180% increase from a 56 hour water fast

Pituitary-testicular axis in obese men during short-term fasting - PubMed

To investigate whether short-term fasting affects the pituitary-testicular axis in obese subjects, 9 massively obese men (Body Mass Index 39.0 +/- 1.3, mean +/- SEM) were given two identical iv GnRH tests, the first (control) after an overnight fast, the second after 56 h of food deprivation...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Verdict: Baseless, this is based on the T theory which is ultimately untrue.

I'm 16. Been doing water fasts repeatedly for about a year and have grown 3 inches in that amount of time. This is after my growth spurt as well. There's also proof fasting increases HGH, study:

Fasting enhances growth hormone secretion and amplifies the complex rhythms of growth hormone secretion in man.

Studies in man have shown that the episodic release of growth hormone (GH) is infrequent and erratic, and unlike that in the rat does not appear to have discernible ultradian periodicities. However, these observations in nonfasted subjects may be invalid ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Water fasting for multiple days spikes HGH, 300% in 3 days, 1250% in one week.

I am more NT and can easily talk to people more often when I'm water fasting. This could be just me, however.

This is based off of "muh T" which I already debunked, fasting increases T

The fact that this thread needed to be even posted is beyond me.
Stop listening to graycels.

fasting doesnt increase t lol i can say by experience, maybe an specific type of it. But just not eating had several negative syntomps in me, including decreased t and i think theres studies to back this up.

 

[0hMan]

Fasting decreases testosterone. The study states the men were massively obese and in the conclusion they state that they as such infer that it works differently in non obese men. HGH is the death hormone, theres nothing good about fasting or starving. If you want to lose weight you should overload on thyroid caffeine aspirin and if youre really fat, DNP.

fasting doesnt increase t lol i can say by experience, maybe an specific type of it. But just not eating had several negative syntomps in me, including decreased t and i think theres studies to back this up.

I doubt it tbh, fasting legit solved my ED

 

[Deleted member 23558]

I doubt it tbh, fasting legit solved my ED

Fasting reduces endotoxin load. But in terms of endocrinology it is trash

 

[TheDragon]

So is fasting good or not? So many people here says it stunts growth. I'm also trying to gymcel as well.

 

[Bro-Steve]

So is fasting good or not? So many people here says it stunts growth. I'm also trying to gymcel as well.

Watch this vid



MPMD is probs one of the best reliable sources about the gym

 

[0hMan]

Watch this vid



MPMD is probs one of the best reliable sources about the gym

Listening to YouTubers about anything, especially self improvement is stupid to say the least. Most of it boils down to "don't do thing, buy my course instead!"

 

[Bro-Steve]

Listening to YouTubers about anything, especially self improvement is stupid to say the least. Most of it boils down to "don't do thing, buy my course instead!"

Bro you’re delusional you don’t even know who this guy is or watched any of his videos

 

[Acne Victim]

Fasting decreases testosterone. The study states the men were massively obese and in the conclusion they state that they as such infer that it works differently in non obese men. HGH is the death hormone, theres nothing good about fasting or starving. If you want to lose weight you should overload on thyroid caffeine aspirin and if youre really fat, DNP.

Being an obese lazy fucker like you isn’t great for your testosterone either buddy

 

[Deleted member 26642]

Being lean is fucking awful for testosterone my dick didn't work and I turned gay unironically

 

[DoII]

 

[Deleted member 20399]

He’s right, leanmaxxing is for oldcels. If ur young don’t get lean you’ll fuck ur growth

 

[username2]

He’s right, leanmaxxing is for oldcels. If ur young don’t get lean you’ll fuck ur growth

This is true, I was on trajectory to be much taller than what I am now but when I was 14 I deiced to try get lean and I was eating 1000 calories a day, this was my first ever cut and I didnt know what to do, at the time I was 183cm and now I am 187/188cm. Both of my younger brothers are on track to be alot taller than me.

I was growing around an inch every 3 months then my growth slowed down heaps

 

[username2]

Being lean is fucking awful for testosterone my dick didn't work and I turned gay unironically

When I was cutting down my sex drive went to shit, I went from getting boners all the time to maybe one a week

 

[Deleted member 33579]

janny pinned her own thread

 

[Member since 2022]

(reupload from thread because people need to read)

Leanmaxing will be the end of you

the reality is that Leanmaxing especially doing so aggressively will negatively impact all your other max’s - including testosterone maxing, sex maxing, growth and height maxing in some cases and social maxing it could even affect money-maxing Now before I start I wanna say if you’re a fat guy...

looksmax.org

This graycel says leanmaxxing is bad, and ironically all of his reasons are the opposite of the truth.
Let's dive into it.


Verdict: Not true, fasting increases T: this study shows a 180% increase from a 56 hour water fast

Pituitary-testicular axis in obese men during short-term fasting - PubMed

To investigate whether short-term fasting affects the pituitary-testicular axis in obese subjects, 9 massively obese men (Body Mass Index 39.0 +/- 1.3, mean +/- SEM) were given two identical iv GnRH tests, the first (control) after an overnight fast, the second after 56 h of food deprivation...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Verdict: Baseless, this is based on the T theory which is ultimately untrue.

I'm 16. Been doing water fasts repeatedly for about a year and have grown 3 inches in that amount of time. This is after my growth spurt as well. There's also proof fasting increases HGH, study:

Fasting enhances growth hormone secretion and amplifies the complex rhythms of growth hormone secretion in man.

Studies in man have shown that the episodic release of growth hormone (GH) is infrequent and erratic, and unlike that in the rat does not appear to have discernible ultradian periodicities. However, these observations in nonfasted subjects may be invalid ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Water fasting for multiple days spikes HGH, 300% in 3 days, 1250% in one week.

I am more NT and can easily talk to people more often when I'm water fasting. This could be just me, however.

This is based off of "muh T" which I already debunked, fasting increases T

The fact that this thread needed to be even posted is beyond me.
Stop listening to graycels.

He is right tho in every reason

Very low IQ op..

 

[Orc]

if going without food for prolonged periods of time had any major consequences for human physiology we would've been extinct already.

our ancestors ate opportunistically, sometimes going days without food.

 

[HerpDerpson]

Water fasting for multiple days spikes HGH

Because your body is dying from starvation and you need to make new cells? How stupid are you?
Producing HGH is never a good thing, any sort of growth is aging.

 

[0hMan]

He is right tho in every reason

Very low IQ op..

How? How is he right in any way? Can you give studies to back it up? Or are you just a little retarded ape who likes to pretend he was on the forum since 2022?
"past MTN+5'10 it's all about being NT"

 

[0hMan]

This is true, I was on trajectory to be much taller than what I am now but when I was 14 I deiced to try get lean and I was eating 1000 calories a day, this was my first ever cut and I didnt know what to do, at the time I was 183cm and now I am 187/188cm. Both of my younger brothers are on track to be alot taller than me.

I was growing around an inch every 3 months then my growth slowed down heaps

This is not refuting anything I said, you were on a caloric deficit, not fasting.

 

[0hMan]

if going without food for prolonged periods of time had any major consequences for human physiology we would've been extinct already.

our ancestors ate opportunistically, sometimes going days without food.

It seems like nobody in the replies understands what fasting means vs caloric deficit. Fucking fucktards.

 

[0hMan]

janny pinned her own thread

I didn't pin it lmao, how's about I go to your house and chop off your testicles and feed it to your sister?

 

[Member since 2022]

How? How is he right in any way? Can you give studies to back it up? Or are you just a little retarded ape who likes to pretend he was on the forum since 2022?
"past MTN+5'10 it's all about being NT"

When i used to be 10% bf i had no energy, had low libido, couldnt even get my dick hard and had no interest whatsoever to interact with anyone because you were walking dead without energy.. i couldnt even argue with anyone...

I guess you have never been "lean" or in diet for long period of time, you would know otherwise.. even bodybuilders in cut with roids are low energy cucks

 

[0hMan]

When i used to be 10% bf i had no energy, had low libido, couldnt even get my dick hard and had no interest whatsoever to interact with anyone because you were walking dead without energy.. i couldnt even argue with anyone...

I guess you have never been "lean" or in diet for long period of time, you would know otherwise.. even bodybuilders in cut with foids are low energy cucks

Were you on a caloric deficit or prolonged fasting?

 

[Member since 2022]

Deficit.. i sometimes did fasting when i ate something i shouldnt have

 

[Bro-Steve]

Listening to YouTubers about anything, especially self improvement is stupid to say the least. Most of it boils down to "don't do thing, buy my course instead!"

It seems like nobody in the replies understands what fasting means vs caloric deficit. Fucking fucktards.

Yeh calling people retards when they’re on about calorie deficit and not fasting even tho my original post was on about a calorie deficit and a large on at that, and you responded with what fasting does and how it increases test lol

 

[Bro-Steve]

When i used to be 10% bf i had no energy, had low libido, couldnt even get my dick hard and had no interest whatsoever to interact with anyone because you were walking dead without energy.. i couldnt even argue with anyone...

I guess you have never been "lean" or in diet for long period of time, you would know otherwise.. even bodybuilders in cut with foids are low energy cucks

This is literally what my post was about, that when you diet hard enough for long enough your quality of life just decreases a lot in all aspects and obviously dieting requires a restriction of calories not in a fast but over weeks and months eating less than you burn basic maths, now bros on about fasting like it’s gonna save humanity lol

 

[Detective]

shit thread. caloric deficit decrease testosterone. long term deficits are meme

 

[Methhead]

(reupload from thread because people need to read)

Leanmaxing will be the end of you

the reality is that Leanmaxing especially doing so aggressively will negatively impact all your other max’s - including testosterone maxing, sex maxing, growth and height maxing in some cases and social maxing it could even affect money-maxing Now before I start I wanna say if you’re a fat guy...

looksmax.org

This graycel says leanmaxxing is bad, and ironically all of his reasons are the opposite of the truth.
Let's dive into it.


Verdict: Not true, fasting increases T: this study shows a 180% increase from a 56 hour water fast

Pituitary-testicular axis in obese men during short-term fasting - PubMed

To investigate whether short-term fasting affects the pituitary-testicular axis in obese subjects, 9 massively obese men (Body Mass Index 39.0 +/- 1.3, mean +/- SEM) were given two identical iv GnRH tests, the first (control) after an overnight fast, the second after 56 h of food deprivation...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Verdict: Baseless, this is based on the T theory which is ultimately untrue.

I'm 16. Been doing water fasts repeatedly for about a year and have grown 3 inches in that amount of time. This is after my growth spurt as well. There's also proof fasting increases HGH, study:

Fasting enhances growth hormone secretion and amplifies the complex rhythms of growth hormone secretion in man.

Studies in man have shown that the episodic release of growth hormone (GH) is infrequent and erratic, and unlike that in the rat does not appear to have discernible ultradian periodicities. However, these observations in nonfasted subjects may be invalid ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Water fasting for multiple days spikes HGH, 300% in 3 days, 1250% in one week.

I am more NT and can easily talk to people more often when I'm water fasting. This could be just me, however.

This is based off of "muh T" which I already debunked, fasting increases T

The fact that this thread needed to be even posted is beyond me.
Stop listening to graycels.

whos the foid in the vid?

 

[0hMan]

whos the foid in the vid?

What vid? Also who's your avi?

 

[Methhead]

What vid? Also who's your avi?

hikichan, the girl op posted.

 

[PirateMatt36]

(reupload from thread because people need to read)

Leanmaxing will be the end of you

the reality is that Leanmaxing especially doing so aggressively will negatively impact all your other max’s - including testosterone maxing, sex maxing, growth and height maxing in some cases and social maxing it could even affect money-maxing Now before I start I wanna say if you’re a fat guy...

looksmax.org

This graycel says leanmaxxing is bad, and ironically all of his reasons are the opposite of the truth.
Let's dive into it.


Verdict: Not true, fasting increases T: this study shows a 180% increase from a 56 hour water fast

Pituitary-testicular axis in obese men during short-term fasting - PubMed

To investigate whether short-term fasting affects the pituitary-testicular axis in obese subjects, 9 massively obese men (Body Mass Index 39.0 +/- 1.3, mean +/- SEM) were given two identical iv GnRH tests, the first (control) after an overnight fast, the second after 56 h of food deprivation...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Verdict: Baseless, this is based on the T theory which is ultimately untrue.

I'm 16. Been doing water fasts repeatedly for about a year and have grown 3 inches in that amount of time. This is after my growth spurt as well. There's also proof fasting increases HGH, study:

Fasting enhances growth hormone secretion and amplifies the complex rhythms of growth hormone secretion in man.

Studies in man have shown that the episodic release of growth hormone (GH) is infrequent and erratic, and unlike that in the rat does not appear to have discernible ultradian periodicities. However, these observations in nonfasted subjects may be invalid ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Water fasting for multiple days spikes HGH, 300% in 3 days, 1250% in one week.

I am more NT and can easily talk to people more often when I'm water fasting. This could be just me, however.

This is based off of "muh T" which I already debunked, fasting increases T

The fact that this thread needed to be even posted is beyond me.
Stop listening to graycels.

Bro you 16 trying to water fast, my guy let your body grow. Your like 1/3 grown yet the fuck

 

[Debetro]

Bro you 16 trying to water fast, my guy let your body grow. Your like 1/3 grown yet the fuck

I was doing purposeful water fasts at 13 already

 

[PirateMatt36]

I was doing purposeful water fasts at 13 already

Bro why, by 40 your body is not gonna like you the fuck

 

[Debetro]

Bro why, by 40 your body is not gonna like you the fuck

My parents did it and I had the magnificient idea to do it for a year and they supported me... I barely grew since then, probably because of a deficit. I was also losing hair and had zero erections...

 

[PirateMatt36]

My parents did it and I had the magnificient idea to do it for a year and they supported me... I barely grew since then, probably because of a deficit. I was also losing hair and had zero erections...

Yeah they did it cause they are ADULTS with fully grown adult bodies. As a growing teen you need to take as much nutrition to grow, this water fasting applies to adults that struggle with growth. Your barely growing for a fucking reason.

 

[Debetro]

Yeah they did it cause they are ADULTS with fully grown adult bodies. As a growing teen you need to take as much nutrition to grow, this water fasting applies to adults that struggle with growth. Your barely growing for a fucking reason.

I know... it was back then when I barely had consciousness.

 

[PirateMatt36]

I know... it was back then when I barely had consciousness.

Just make sure you eat dude. I am just saying, only people that having eating problems and obesity should water fast. You NEED food to grow, you need food to work. You should especially eat like crazy as a teen for growth but later in life. No matter how big/small a person is you need someone kind of food/intake daily. Shit if it’s just even drinkable nutrition mixes that’s better than just water. I was a huge gamer as a teen and would only eat one meal a day. I am 22 now and wish I took that advantage cause knowing that I had a endless stomach then and not now. Yeah very hard to gain weight, 145lbs

 

[Deleted member 40986]

Brutal when the mods debunk you