Deca good replacement for testosterone?

[JCaesar]

Deca + masteron will be my first actual roid cycle any advice?

 

[Deleted member 44380]

you sure you want to start with a 19nor?

 

[JCaesar]

Fuck I was gonna delete this and post on fitness and health subforum let me put it back up

 

[JCaesar]

you sure you want to start with a 19nor?

I was gonna start with normie TRT but I thought deca would be a better idea since it doesn't convert to e2, this way I can have no estrogen in my body

 

[Deleted member 44380]

I was gonna start with normie TRT but I thought deca would be a better idea since it doesn't convert to e2, this way I can have no estrogen in my body

its more about the commitment to it, test would be easier to recover from and if e2 is a concern why dont u do test+mast?

 

[JCaesar]

its more about the commitment to it, test would be easier to recover from and if e2 is a concern why dont u do test+mast?

Cause the test would still leave me with fluctuating e2 levels, maybe I could up my AI dosage but even when I was taking 7.5mg letrozole ED I wasn't feeling any sides so the aromatisation scared me. Also wdym by the commitment to it?

 

[Deleted member 44380]

Cause the test would still leave me with fluctuating e2 levels, maybe I could up my AI dosage but even when I was taking 7.5mg letrozole ED I wasn't feeling any sides so the aromatisation scared me. Also wdym by the commitment to it?

With a 19nor you increase your likeliness to make roiding a life long commitment if that makes sense

 

[JCaesar]

With a 19nor you increase your likeliness to make roiding a life long commitment if that makes sense

Ah I see, my dealer said deca wouldn't shutdown me but I can have some HCG in stock if there's an emergency

 

[asdvek]

19nor = HPTA axis = anal sex

 

[JCaesar]

19nor = HPTA axis = anal sex

It's just some deca doe

 

[Deleted member 44380]

Ah I see, my dealer said deca wouldn't shutdown me but I can have some HCG in stock if there's an emergency

>dealer
>trusting the dealer
>trusting

 

[asdvek]

It's just some deca doe

19-Nor-5-androstenedione, also known as estr-5-ene-3,17-dione, is a synthetic, orally active anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) and a derivative of 19-nortestosterone (nandrolone) that was never introduced for medical use.[1][2][3] It is an androgen prohormone of nandrolone and of other 19-norandrostanes.[1][2][3]

19-Nor-5-androstenedione

Clinical data
Other names	Estr-5-ene-3,17-dione; 19-Norandrost-5-ene-3,17-dione

 

[JCaesar]

>dealer
>trusting the dealer
>trusting

Yea I guess it's a bit retarded jfl but he said he used it to treat low T in some people and after hopping off they had higher T, I'm not gonna be in for more than a year for sure so I don't shut down though

 

[JCaesar]

19-Nor-5-androstenedione, also known as estr-5-ene-3,17-dione, is a synthetic, orally active anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) and a derivative of 19-nortestosterone (nandrolone) that was never introduced for medical use.[1][2][3] It is an androgen prohormone of nandrolone and of other 19-norandrostanes.[1][2][3]

19-Nor-5-androstenedione

Clinical data
Other names	Estr-5-ene-3,17-dione; 19-Norandrost-5-ene-3,17-dione

Whats ur point

 

[Deleted member 44380]

Yea I guess it's a bit retarded jfl but he said he used it to treat low T in some people and after hopping off they had higher T, I'm not gonna be in for more than a year for sure so I don't shut down though

That shit happened to me i ended up with higher t after coming off but thats not the only point if you ever lose all your muscles somehow (wdk what life will bring us you could get bored anytime) you will most likely regret doing hard roids after ending up looking natty and the mental takeaway will be brutal (natty niggers dont have much to lose)

 

[JCaesar]

That shit happened to me i ended up with higher t after coming off

What were you taking?

 

[Deleted member 44380]

What were you taking?

I was taking 500 enanthate, read the reply again i added a lot to it

 

[JCaesar]

That shit happened to me i ended up with higher t after coming off but thats not the only point if you ever lose all your muscles somehow (wdk what life will bring us you could get bored anytime) you will most likely regret doing hard roids after ending up looking natty and the mental takeaway will be brutal (natty niggers dont have much to lose)

Wouldn't you be able to go back to your natty limit faster and maybe even higher tho? Like you wouldn't look as good as you were roided ofc but you'd still be able to exceed what you'd have achievable natty anyway with higher baseline T levels

 

[Deleted member 44380]

Wouldn't you be able to go back to your natty limit faster and maybe even higher tho? Like you wouldn't look as good as you were roided ofc but you'd still be able to exceed what you'd have achievable natty anyway with higher baseline T levels

Its just how much below youd be in terms off physique from your previous roided hard self, thats how you become a trenned up roidhead

 

[JCaesar]

Its just how much below youd be in terms off physique from your previous roided hard self, thats how you become a trenned up roidhead

I see, you should always try not to let the drugs get to your head but that's easier said than done jfl. I guess I'll limit myself to the only thing I'll do along with this is HGH.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Google “mpmd deca only cycle”

 

[Orc]

only if you enjoy being depressed.

 

[Orc]

19nor = HPTA axis = anal sex

can confirm but can't complain.

 

[JCaesar]

Google “mpmd deca only cycle”

Apparently the only negative effects are lack of e2 and chance of blood pressure fluctuating, seems great

 

[JCaesar]

only if you enjoy being depressed.

Because of low e2?

 

[Orc]

Because of low e2?

no, on it's own it just tends to make you depressed.

 

[premedmogger]

Deca + masteron will be my first actual roid cycle any advice?

wtf are your goals lmao

 

[DNRDniggerking]

Deca + masteron will be my first actual roid cycle any advice?

dont start with deca. + there is no reason to run deca + mast with no test

 

[DNRDniggerking]

Ah I see, my dealer said deca wouldn't shutdown me but I can have some HCG in stock if there's an emergency

your dealer is retarded

 

[JCaesar]

wtf are your goals lmao

Masculinization

 

[JCaesar]

dont start with deca. + there is no reason to run deca + mast with no test

Deca is basically just alternative test tho? Only reason I'm not on test is because I gotta control my estrogen

 

[JCaesar]

your dealer is retarded

I mean he said he had customers who got off with even more test than they had previously

 

[übermog]

anavar 30mg day
halo 30mg day
primo ace 75mg day
dbol 10 mg daily
npp roughly 300-400mg weekly
tren 40mg weekly
hcg 300 iu thrice a week
caber + exe

 

[JCaesar]

anavar 30mg day
halo 30mg day
primo ace 75mg day
dbol 10 mg daily
npp roughly 300-400mg weekly
tren 40mg weekly
hcg 300 iu thrice a week
caber + exe

What is this even for jfl

 

[übermog]

What is this even for jfl

best roid cycle evar

 

[DNRDniggerking]

Deca is basically just alternative test tho? Only reason I'm not on test is because I gotta control my estrogen

oh ffs, just run test with mast or primo and use an AI, add proviron maybe. deca only when you're scared to lose hair or some shit. dont do this bs

 

[DNRDniggerking]

I mean he said he had customers who got off with even more test than they had previously

how old are they? when was the blood test taken post cycle? dealers are all bro scientists at best and trynna make money off of you.

 

[One Rep Max]

Over for your hair swap mast for primo

 

[DNRDniggerking]

Over for your hair swap mast for primo

both are hair raping compounds. scared to lose hair? do test with 5ar inhibitor or deca only

 

[One Rep Max]

both are hair raping compounds. scared to lose hair? do test with 5ar inhibitor or deca only

Won’t just deca give u brutal suppression and limp dick
Yeah test + dut is best

 

[RapeAllFemales]

No deca for your harmony

 

[Newday*V3]

Are you retarded?

 

[TitusA]

Deca + masteron will be my first actual roid cycle any advice?

Why masteron and why do you want to run deca over test? I would also look into decas negative effect on the heart and keep in mind that deca and/or tren will shut you down bad.

Every cycle should have test because you need the downstream oestrogen for heart and vascular health. IDK where some of u guys come up with this goofy shit honestly.

 

[DNRDniggerking]

Won’t just deca give u brutal suppression and limp dick
Yeah test + dut is best

all these compounds will shut you down completely, not suppression, if you mean its harder to recover from deca then yes thats true. only do deca if you're on a b&c. as for limp dick, its not necessary, if you control prolactin and e2, I'd say run 1000 iu hcg weekly with deca only (do it for all tbh)

 

[JCaesar]

oh ffs, just run test with mast or primo and use an AI, add proviron maybe. deca only when you're scared to lose hair or some shit. dont do this bs

What would be the huge difference test has over deca though, from what I know it's just more androgenic and converts to e2

 

[JCaesar]

how old are they? when was the blood test taken post cycle? dealers are all bro scientists at best and trynna make money off of you.

They were all over 18, he told me they had low T when they took a blood test so they went to him for the steroid route, and after hopping off the bloods showed increase in their T production

 

[JCaesar]

Are you retarded?

What makes you say that?

 

[JCaesar]

Why masteron and why do you want to run deca over test? I would also look into decas negative effect on the heart and keep in mind that deca and/or tren will shut you down bad.

Every cycle should have test because you need the downstream oestrogen for heart and vascular health. IDK where some of u guys come up with this goofy shit honestly.

Masteron is for DHT, I was gonna run anavar but I dunno how much it effects growth plates. My goal is to have few estrogen and with only test I'd most likely not be able to regulate my e2 levels enough.

 

[Newday*V3]

What makes you say that?

“DECA good replacement to testosterone”

I was gonna start with normie TRT but I thought deca would be a better idea since it doesn't convert to e2, this way I can have no estrogen in my body

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