decent jaw with orthodontic

[LightWork]

so i just remover my braces few months ago and to prevent the relapse, they put me a fixed retainer for the bottom teeth and a clear retainer for the top. I started my orthotropic treatment at 10 and i’m now 15. When i look my family members, they have a pretty good jaw area except me so i did some researches and i found that braces and retainers, do an hypomobility of the mandibule, so basically it reduces the probability of high development of the mandibule (forward growth) and my palatine expansion. I saw some ppl who wore braces too and still got a very good jaw area, like Ehren. So i just researched if Ehren did surgery, and its a pretty controversial question.

In my case, it feels like it’s over for me like i have a so bad jaw area, my salivary glands are so exposed, recessed chin, low hyoid, i stock a lot of fat in face even with around 16-17% body fat, i don’t consume a lot of sodium for water retention…

I asked ChatGPT btw about my radios and he told me that when i was 10 i got potential, but i got fucked by orthodontic treatment

So im asking you, how to promote a good growth of the mandible even if im nerfed asf (no surgery) ? and does it never begun for me?

 

[buzzhaze]

your still slightly recessed bro. you should probably book an appointment with a max fac. recession usually doesnt correct itself with age as its your teeth positioning and malocclusion that determines how your jaw sits. its not crazy bad but it wont get better most likely

 

[LightWork]

your still slightly recessed bro. you should probably book an appointment with a max fac. recession usually doesnt correct itself with age as its your teeth positioning and malocclusion that determines how your jaw sits. its not crazy bad but it wont get better most likely

during my childhood i had very bad habits and now im trying to fix all of that. I will also try to remove my fixed containers for a clear container. Even with theses things, i will still being recessed ?

 

[buzzhaze]

during my childhood i had very bad habits and now im trying to fix all of that. I will also try to remove my fixed containers for a clear container. Even with theses things, i will still being recessed ?

yeah you will stay what you are right now. retainers just stop the progress from slipping back. its crucial that you wear them however long the ortho told u and be perfectly consistent. in order to correct your recession you will need surgery most likely some kind of small movement which you would discuss with a max fac.

 

[greycelfaliio]

I think you should read some of this (it doesn't go into depth on the mandible but it will help you with forward growth at your age)
https://looksmax.org/threads/how-to...oying-13yr-olds-asking.1461438/#post-21059014

Otherwise look into appliances, specifically a twin block, herbst or a bionator