Decreased Attractiveness as We Age Is Partly Caused by Facial Bone Loss & Weakness

[enchanted_elixir]

Decreased Attractiveness As We Age Is Partly Caused By Facial Bone Loss & Weakness

by @enchanted_elixir
​

Table of Contents

• Context
• The Effects on Bone Aging on Appearance
• Why The Bones Age
• Proposed Preventions​
• Works Cited​

Context
Our bones determine how our face is structured and sets the stage for not only how attractive we are but also our phenotype and how our facial features look.

Here are two sisters. Kelly, the girl on the left decided to breathe with her nose, while the woman on the right decided to do mouth breathing. The effects of this are that her facial bones started to recess as she wasn't keeping her tongue on the roof of her mouth (which mouth breathing naturally and inevitably encourages). The effects this has on her facial bones (and her attractiveness) is clear as day. Jaws eerily sloped, her bite is horrible, her chin is recessed, and her eye area seems to me to be less compact than her sisters'.

Another example. In this example, one of the two twins experienced physical trauma in their nasal septum and their midface. This physical trauma, as expected, affected their bones and in turn, their facial attractiveness.

Image Source: Grymer, L & Bosch, Carles. (1997) [1]

Now that we understand that your bones have a very direct influence on facial attractiveness, let me demonstrate how the aging of your bones affect your appearance.

The Effects on Bone Aging on Appearance
To put it simply, this is what bone aging does to your face.

As showed with the two examples above, as you age, your orbits (the bones surrounding your eyes) get wider, your maxilla gets narrower, your nasal cavity gets wider, your chin gets weaker and your jaw gets thinner, among a slew of other things.

Why The Bones Age

According to the paper "Aging of the Bony Orbit: A Three-Dimensional Computed Tomographic Study" it states that "The aging process also affects the facial bones. In multiple studies, it has been shown that the bony midface undergoes a process of bony resorption and volume loss with increasing age." (Kahn & Shaw, 2008)

In simple terms, you lose your bones as you age. The less of a robust, properly formed structure you have, the worse you look (or will look as you age)

An example of how bone loss in the face affects appearance

And here are where the most bone loss occurs (the dark spots are the most susceptible to bone loss)

Image Credit: Mendelson, Bryan & Wong, Chin-Ho. (2012)

Proposed Solutions
Here are things that increase bone health and combat bone loss and degradation

• Calcium (It's what bones are made of)
• Vitamin D (Increases your calcium absorption)
• Vitamin K2 (Helps with bone remodeling)
• Being healthy

You don't necessarily have to buy these separately; you can also simply purchase anything for bone health, bone restoration or anything that claims to be good for osteoporosis (although I do recommend that any supplement that claims to cure or treat it, you actively do research on the ingredients).

I also recommend that you increase your dosage of calcium and Vitamin D3 as you age as well.

Works Cited

1. Grymer, L & Bosch, Carles. (1997). The nasal septum and the development of the midface. A longitudinal study of a pair of monozygotic twins. Rhinology. 35. 6-10. Link: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Twin-A-left-and-twin-B-right-at-12-years-of-age_fig2_14019604
2. David M. Kahn, MD, Robert B. Shaw, Jr, MD, Aging of the Bony Orbit: A Three-Dimensional Computed Tomographic Study, Aesthetic Surgery Journal, Volume 28, Issue 3, May 2008, Pages 258–264, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.asj.2008.02.007
3. Mendelson, Bryan & Wong, Chin-Ho. (2012). Changes in the Facial Skeleton With Aging: Implications and Clinical Applications in Facial Rejuvenation. Aesthetic plastic surgery. 36. 753-60. 10.1007/s00266-012-9904-3., https://www.researchgate.net/public..._Clinical_Applications_in_Facial_Rejuvenation

Spoiler: Tags

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[Lonely]

Love the "Why Bones Age" section, goes super in depth

The "Solutions" part is also pretty nice. Super insightful.

 

[roping3264]

Kinda water but good thread boyo

 

[Deleted member 18879]

 

[Aypo129]

Cant see the full thread

 

[randomvanish]

Proposed Solutions

 

[Aypo129]

Same here yakhi
Cant see shit

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Love the "Why Bones Age" section, goes super in depth

The "Solutions" part is also pretty nice. Super insightful.

For some odd reason, the fucking server decided to post it for me. It's complete now.

Same here yakhi
Cant see shit

Cant see the full thread

Kinda water but good thread boyo

 

[Deleted member 22623]

cant wait to be chad at 90

 

[ihatereddit]

mewing confirmed legit

 

[Sondern]

Decreased Attractiveness As We Age Is Partly Caused By Facial Bone Loss & Weakness

View attachment 1918818
by @enchanted_elixir
​

Table of Contents

• Context
• The Effects on Bone Aging on Appearance
• Why The Bones Age
• Proposed Preventions​
• Works Cited​

Context
Our bones determine how our face is structured and sets the stage for not only how attractive we are but also our phenotype and how our facial features look.

View attachment 1918825
Here are two sisters. Kelly, the girl on the left decided to breathe with her nose, while the woman on the right decided to do mouth breathing. The effects of this are that her facial bones started to recess as she wasn't keeping her tongue on the roof of her mouth (which mouth breathing naturally and inevitably encourages). The effects this has on her facial bones (and her attractiveness) is clear as day. Jaws eerily sloped, her bite is horrible, her chin is recessed, and her eye area seems to me to be less compact than her sisters'.

View attachment 1918833
Another example. In this example, one of the two twins experienced physical trauma in their nasal septum and their midface. This physical trauma, as expected, affected their bones and in turn, their facial attractiveness.

Image Source: Grymer, L & Bosch, Carles. (1997) [1]

Now that we understand that your bones have a very direct influence on facial attractiveness, let me demonstrate how the aging of your bones affect your appearance.

The Effects on Bone Aging on Appearance
To put it simply, this is what bone aging does to your face.

View attachment 1918847
View attachment 1918837
View attachment 1918818
View attachment 1918836
View attachment 1918839View attachment 1918853

As showed with the two examples above, as you age, your orbits (the bones surrounding your eyes) get wider, your maxilla gets narrower, your nasal cavity gets wider, your chin gets weaker and your jaw gets thinner, among a slew of other things.

Why The Bones Age

According to the paper "Aging of the Bony Orbit: A Three-Dimensional Computed Tomographic Study" it states that "The aging process also affects the facial bones. In multiple studies, it has been shown that the bony midface undergoes a process of bony resorption and volume loss with increasing age." (Kahn & Shaw, 2008)

In simple terms, you lose your bones as you age. The less of a robust, properly formed structure you have, the worse you look (or will look as you age)

An example of how bone loss in the face affects appearance
View attachment 1919037
View attachment 1919038

And here are where the most bone loss occurs (the dark spots are the most susceptible to bone loss)

View attachment 1918864
Image Credit: Mendelson, Bryan & Wong, Chin-Ho. (2012)

Proposed Solutions
Here are things that increase bone health and combat bone loss and degradation

• Calcium (It's what bones are made of)
• Vitamin D (Increases your calcium absorption)
• Vitamin K2 (Helps with bone remodeling)
• Being healthy

You don't necessarily have to buy these separately; you can also simply purchase anything for bone health, bone restoration or anything that claims to be good for osteoporosis (although I do recommend that any supplement that claims to cure or treat it, you actively do research on the ingredients).

I also recommend that you increase your dosage of calcium and Vitamin D3 as you age as well.

Works Cited

1. Grymer, L & Bosch, Carles. (1997). The nasal septum and the development of the midface. A longitudinal study of a pair of monozygotic twins. Rhinology. 35. 6-10. Link: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Twin-A-left-and-twin-B-right-at-12-years-of-age_fig2_14019604
2. David M. Kahn, MD, Robert B. Shaw, Jr, MD, Aging of the Bony Orbit: A Three-Dimensional Computed Tomographic Study, Aesthetic Surgery Journal, Volume 28, Issue 3, May 2008, Pages 258–264, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.asj.2008.02.007
3. Mendelson, Bryan & Wong, Chin-Ho. (2012). Changes in the Facial Skeleton With Aging: Implications and Clinical Applications in Facial Rejuvenation. Aesthetic plastic surgery. 36. 753-60. 10.1007/s00266-012-9904-3., https://www.researchgate.net/public..._Clinical_Applications_in_Facial_Rejuvenation

Spoiler: Tags

@Lygodactylus @8PSLcel @Br0sk1 @PrinceLuenLeoncur Chadeep@Chadeep @LMSMaxxer @Xangsane @mulattomaxxer @RottenSperg @StrangerDanger @Predeterminism @KING REIDYZ @AscendingHero @Prettyboy @SupremeSubhuman @Mogpogs @Piratecel @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @Preoximerianas @tyronelite @FailedNormieManlet @Lars @Korea @bogii @StreegeReturn @Biggdink @eren1 @Reckless Turtle @Broly Banderas @House Lannister @WannabeJock @Racky @Erik-Jón @heightface @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @Clark69 @ilovelamp08 @St.TikTokcel
@Anstrum95 @TeenAscender @loox @justadude @vaseqmoherad @astatine @Amnesia @Sigmamale @anya @Assyrian_Warrior @FreakkForLife @Alexanderr @HQNPmaxxing @currylightskin @BasedPsychiatrist @´´´´´´´´ @ALP @HOLYFUARK @Chadpreetmaybe @BeenLMSsinceMSN @Kroker @oldcelloser @Tinydragon98 @Hiraeth @ascension!@capybara @crimclown63 @Zures @Unsh @reptiles @pneumocystosis @Moggie

I like these threads but the main reason Im on this site is to skip to the solutions. thanks for the tag

 

[mvp2v1]

Decreased Attractiveness As We Age Is Partly Caused By Facial Bone Loss & Weakness

View attachment 1918818
by @enchanted_elixir
​

Table of Contents

• Context
• The Effects on Bone Aging on Appearance
• Why The Bones Age
• Proposed Preventions​
• Works Cited​

Context
Our bones determine how our face is structured and sets the stage for not only how attractive we are but also our phenotype and how our facial features look.

View attachment 1918825
Here are two sisters. Kelly, the girl on the left decided to breathe with her nose, while the woman on the right decided to do mouth breathing. The effects of this are that her facial bones started to recess as she wasn't keeping her tongue on the roof of her mouth (which mouth breathing naturally and inevitably encourages). The effects this has on her facial bones (and her attractiveness) is clear as day. Jaws eerily sloped, her bite is horrible, her chin is recessed, and her eye area seems to me to be less compact than her sisters'.

View attachment 1918833
Another example. In this example, one of the two twins experienced physical trauma in their nasal septum and their midface. This physical trauma, as expected, affected their bones and in turn, their facial attractiveness.

Image Source: Grymer, L & Bosch, Carles. (1997) [1]

Now that we understand that your bones have a very direct influence on facial attractiveness, let me demonstrate how the aging of your bones affect your appearance.

The Effects on Bone Aging on Appearance
To put it simply, this is what bone aging does to your face.

View attachment 1918847
View attachment 1918837
View attachment 1918818
View attachment 1918836
View attachment 1918839View attachment 1918853

As showed with the two examples above, as you age, your orbits (the bones surrounding your eyes) get wider, your maxilla gets narrower, your nasal cavity gets wider, your chin gets weaker and your jaw gets thinner, among a slew of other things.

Why The Bones Age

According to the paper "Aging of the Bony Orbit: A Three-Dimensional Computed Tomographic Study" it states that "The aging process also affects the facial bones. In multiple studies, it has been shown that the bony midface undergoes a process of bony resorption and volume loss with increasing age." (Kahn & Shaw, 2008)

In simple terms, you lose your bones as you age. The less of a robust, properly formed structure you have, the worse you look (or will look as you age)

An example of how bone loss in the face affects appearance
View attachment 1919037
View attachment 1919038

And here are where the most bone loss occurs (the dark spots are the most susceptible to bone loss)

View attachment 1918864
Image Credit: Mendelson, Bryan & Wong, Chin-Ho. (2012)

Proposed Solutions
Here are things that increase bone health and combat bone loss and degradation

• Calcium (It's what bones are made of)
• Vitamin D (Increases your calcium absorption)
• Vitamin K2 (Helps with bone remodeling)
• Being healthy

You don't necessarily have to buy these separately; you can also simply purchase anything for bone health, bone restoration or anything that claims to be good for osteoporosis (although I do recommend that any supplement that claims to cure or treat it, you actively do research on the ingredients).

I also recommend that you increase your dosage of calcium and Vitamin D3 as you age as well.

Works Cited

1. Grymer, L & Bosch, Carles. (1997). The nasal septum and the development of the midface. A longitudinal study of a pair of monozygotic twins. Rhinology. 35. 6-10. Link: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Twin-A-left-and-twin-B-right-at-12-years-of-age_fig2_14019604
2. David M. Kahn, MD, Robert B. Shaw, Jr, MD, Aging of the Bony Orbit: A Three-Dimensional Computed Tomographic Study, Aesthetic Surgery Journal, Volume 28, Issue 3, May 2008, Pages 258–264, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.asj.2008.02.007
3. Mendelson, Bryan & Wong, Chin-Ho. (2012). Changes in the Facial Skeleton With Aging: Implications and Clinical Applications in Facial Rejuvenation. Aesthetic plastic surgery. 36. 753-60. 10.1007/s00266-012-9904-3., https://www.researchgate.net/public..._Clinical_Applications_in_Facial_Rejuvenation

Spoiler: Tags

@Lygodactylus @8PSLcel @Br0sk1 @PrinceLuenLeoncur Chadeep@Chadeep @LMSMaxxer @Xangsane @mulattomaxxer @RottenSperg @StrangerDanger @Predeterminism @KING REIDYZ @AscendingHero @Prettyboy @SupremeSubhuman @Mogpogs @Piratecel @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @Preoximerianas @tyronelite @FailedNormieManlet @Lars @Korea @bogii @StreegeReturn @Biggdink @eren1 @Reckless Turtle @Broly Banderas @House Lannister @WannabeJock @Racky @Erik-Jón @heightface @PURE ARYAN GENETICS @Clark69 @ilovelamp08 @St.TikTokcel
@Anstrum95 @TeenAscender @loox @justadude @vaseqmoherad @astatine @Amnesia @Sigmamale @anya @Assyrian_Warrior @FreakkForLife @Alexanderr @HQNPmaxxing @currylightskin @BasedPsychiatrist @´´´´´´´´ @ALP @HOLYFUARK @Chadpreetmaybe @BeenLMSsinceMSN @Kroker @oldcelloser @Tinydragon98 @Hiraeth @ascension!@capybara @crimclown63 @Zures @Unsh @reptiles @pneumocystosis @Moggie

I’ll add to your solutions. HGH.

 

[Deleted member 22093]

Just mew. Pushing your tongue up against gravity prevents facial aging bro.

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Just mew. Pushing your tongue up against gravity prevents facial aging bro.

Doesn't prevent bone loss though.

 

[eduardkoopman]

The solution, is not going extreme enough.

Since it basically just is: take some food supplements brahs. Them being: k2, d, d3, calcium, etc..

Need to also fight the slowing down, of the cell turnover, due to da age pill

 

[Deleted member 16220]

If it's true that aging causes bone loss, a bunch of cope supplements aren't going to help that jfl.

By the time you're fucking old as hell you should have a family and kids and money and house and guess what you're going to be dead in a few years who gives a fuck about your sagging eye area. Just wear sunglasses and a beard congrats.

 

[4headmauler]

This post feels unnecessary. If you're just discovering this then just delete your account

 

[Deleted member 21467]

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This post feels unnecessary. If you're just discovering this then just delete your account

fuck off greycel andrew tate bottom g

this is based user

 

[mvp2v1]

If it's true that aging causes bone loss, a bunch of cope supplements aren't going to help that jfl.

By the time you're fucking old as hell you should have a family and kids and money and house and guess what you're going to be dead in a few years who gives a fuck about your sagging eye area. Just wear sunglasses and a beard congrats.

A k2 megadose would work imo

 

[Deleted member 21628]

BS
The bone loss is very minimal

 

[thecel]

Love the "Why Bones Age" section, goes super in depth

The "Solutions" part is also pretty nice. Super insightful.

All copes.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Bone grows till 25 then decreases after 35

 

[Allornothing]

These mouthbreathing “studies” seem like a case of correlation and causation. People with shit genes and thus, shit maxillas/forward growth, are more likely to mouth breathe due to blocked airways.

 

[mvp2v1]

Bone grows till 25 then decreases after 35

its debatable, there are studies showing increases in head size, even increases in forward growth naturally post 25. it sort of seems like we never really stop growing, but that the epigenome increases in errors & the rate of growth is determined by growth hormone which basically shuts down after 25

Oh not to mention that our height naturaly increases over time (bones especialy in the spine lengthen perhaps because of the load they take) this seems to be offset though by other variables to an even greater extent thus why our height decreases in actual terms as we age (further proof that if it can go one direction it can go another). https://www.youtube.com/@NaturalHeightGrowth/videos

 

[Deprived]

its debatable, there are studies showing increases in head size, even increases in forward growth naturally post 25. it sort of seems like we never really stop growing, but that the epigenome increases in errors & the rate of growth is determined by growth hormone which basically shuts down after 25

Oh not to mention that our height naturaly increases over time (bones especialy in the spine lengthen perhaps because of the load they take) this seems to be offset though by other variables to an even greater extent thus why our height decreases in actual terms as we age (further proof that if it can go one direction it can go another). https://www.youtube.com/@NaturalHeightGrowth/videos

some things start declining before or at 25 too like collagen production and fluid intellegence

 

[mvp2v1]

some things start declining before or at 25 too like collagen production and fluid intellegence

Ya I heard that about intelligence from Jordan Peterson. Supposedly exersize and diet can resolve this? Idk if it’s true though. I’m also aware that creatine supplementation in those above 25 can increase iq quite notably (15 points) not sure about age range though

 

[Deleted member 8758]

Not really bone loss but more like loss of bone support. Sphenoid angle gets worse causing the face to droop and the temples get narrower. With less bone support, theres less soft tissue support so skin sags due to gravity.

 

[knucklehead]

These mouthbreathing “studies” seem like a case of correlation and causation. People with shit genes and thus, shit maxillas/forward growth, are more likely to mouth breathe due to blocked airways.

wrong

pic of a kid before and after developing allergies causing him to mouth breathe:

 

[Allornothing]

wrong

pic of a kid before and after developing allergies causing him to mouth breathe:

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That’s just one example of someone who doesn’t even disprove my point. Might have started mouth breathing anyway due to recession from genes. Could just be a coincidence that he developed allergies. As I said this is only one example but it could be valid.

 

[J o r o]

So i can mouthbreath to have a huge chin like that?

 

[Deleted member 18879]

That’s just one example of someone who doesn’t even disprove my point. Might have started mouth breathing anyway due to recession from genes. Could just be a coincidence that he developed allergies. As I said this is only one example but it could be valid.

plenty people with allergies and decent forward growth too + supposedly he developed it due to having a gerbil, yet he would've spent half his time outside the house which would cause him to breathe normally?

also zero verifiable proof that this actually happened

 

[Deleted member 18879]

Ya I heard that about intelligence from Jordan Peterson. Supposedly exersize and diet can resolve this? Idk if it’s true though. I’m also aware that creatine supplementation in those above 25 can increase iq quite notably (15 points) not sure about age range though

Did you post on lookism? I remember your avi

 

[mvp2v1]

Did you post on lookism? I remember your avi

No i was only blackpilled in late 21 or early 2022. Dueing lookisms time I was busy refusing to look at pictures of myself or mirrors coping with startups and “intellectualism”

 

[knucklehead]

That’s just one example of someone who doesn’t even disprove my point. Might have started mouth breathing anyway due to recession from genes. Could just be a coincidence that he developed allergies. As I said this is only one example but it could be valid.

plenty people with allergies and decent forward growth too + supposedly he developed it due to having a gerbil, yet he would've spent half his time outside the house which would cause him to breathe normally?

also zero verifiable proof that this actually happened

nobody's genes are going to make their jaws randomly become recessed in the middle of their childhood. the kid clearly had normal facial development in the before picture


look at what happened when scientists plugged monkeys' noses (their jaws/teeth developed incorrectly) - https://buteykoclinic.com/docs/Primate-Experiments-on-Oral-Respiration-Harvold.pdf

"All experimental animals gradually acquired a facial appearance and dental occlusion different from those of the control animals"

 

[eduardkoopman]

Not really bone loss but more like loss of bone support. Sphenoid angle gets worse causing the face to droop and the temples get narrower. With less bone support, theres less soft tissue support so skin sags due to gravity.

High iq reply