Definitive guide on Machiavellianmaxxing

[Deleted member 17791]

Lets say you don't want to work much. Lets say you want to make it big fast. Well, engaging in an ethical way simply is not the way.

This thread will be a guide for machievellianmaxxing.


1. Identify important and relevant people

First, you must correctly identify who is relevant to your success. Who is in a position that you can use to improve your own position? These are your boss, other people with control in areas that can effect you personally.

There is no point in trying to manipulate someone too far away from your own level. A plebian isn't going to be able to manipulate a king. The king doesn't give a fuck what you think. But a local lord might.


2. gather information

This is key to any successful manipulation. You must open your ears to any and all new information. Knowledge is the most powerful tool to have ever existed. Knowledge can change the game.

Always listen on conversations, always remember what others say if what they are talking about could be relevant. Gossip should be your best friend, use it.


3. identify what is important to other people

Knowledge is can only be useful if you know how to use it. identify how your knowledge can be used. Follow the CAII.

Collect (information)

Analysis

identify (it's relevance)

and implement

You must know how people may respond to information. How does a knight move on a chess board? It moves in an L shape. You can only be a successful manipulator once you know how your pieces operate.


5. know how to lie

Think of lies as icing on the cake, not the cake itself. The most successful lie is a small one buried inside a bigger truth. It is hard to uncover lies when they're baked into truths.


6. know when and what to divulge

You must know when to strike and how you will do it in order to create the desired result. The mood of an individual can effect how they may respond to information that you decided to share with them, they may not believe you if they're in a sub optimal state.


7. create situations that benefit you

Simply waiting for the right moment will hold you down and limit your potential. You must take an active role in creating that right moment to strike. But be careful, the more active you become, the harder it is for you to maintain control. Secrecy is your best friend and you should always maintain it. If it's possible that you may be revealed, lay low for a while.

 

[Deleted member 21297]

whats a

Machiavellian​

 

[cmfanel]

Absolutely autistic, you want to be high in agreeableness and low in neuroticism. Reading incel forum posts on HOW TO BE DARK TRIAD MUST READ THREAD will guarantee you will have 0 friends, 0 pussy, and anyone who knows you will think you're some neurotic anxiety ridden loser who has to "plot" his every move aka when can he can open up the next looskmax thread while no one is behind him

 

[Deleted member 17791]

whats a

Machiavellian​

scheming cunt.

Absolutely autistic, you want to be high in agreeableness and low in neuroticism. Reading incel forum posts on HOW TO BE DARK TRIAD MUST READ THREAD will guarantee you will have 0 friends, 0 pussy, and anyone who knows you will think you're some neurotic anxiety ridden loser who has to "plot" his every move aka when can he can open up the next looskmax thread while no one is behind him

Everyone who is NT is Machiavellian to some degree. Being an awkward and edgy person is not Machiavellian in the slightest.

Oh but you have to start insulting because you simply don't have the ability to actually argue. Get out of my thread and never reply again.

 

[Unhuman]

Lets say you don't want to work much. Lets say you want to make it big fast. Well, engaging in an ethical way simply is not the way.

This thread will be a guide for machievellianmaxxing.


1. Identify important and relevant people

First, you must correctly identify who is relevant to your success. Who is in a position that you can use to improve your own position? These are your boss, other people with control in areas that can effect you personally.

There is no point in trying to manipulate someone too far away from your own level. A plebian isn't going to be able to manipulate a king. The king doesn't give a fuck what you think. But a local lord might.


2. gather information

This is key to any successful manipulation. You must open your ears to any and all new information. Knowledge is the most powerful tool to have ever existed. Knowledge can change the game.

Always listen on conversations, always remember what others say if what they are talking about could be relevant. Gossip should be your best friend, use it.


3. identify what is important to other people

Knowledge is can only be useful if you know how to use it. identify how your knowledge can be used. Follow the CAII.

Collect (information)

Analysis

identify (it's relevance)

and implement

You must know how people may respond to information. How does a knight move on a chess board? It moves in an L shape. You can only be a successful manipulator once you know how your pieces operate.


5. know how to lie

Think of lies as icing on the cake, not the cake itself. The most successful lie is a small one buried inside a bigger truth. It is hard to uncover lies when they're baked into truths.


6. know when and what to divulge

You must know when to strike and how you will do it in order to create the desired result. The mood of an individual can effect how they may respond to information that you decided to share with them, they may not believe you if they're in a sub optimal state.


7. create situations that benefit you

Simply waiting for the right moment will hold you down and limit your potential. You must take an active role in creating that right moment to strike. But be careful, the more active you become, the harder it is for you to maintain control. Secrecy is your best friend and you should always maintain it. If it's possible that you may be revealed, lay low for a while.

You have autism, habibi. Why are you teaching people how to become neurotypical?

 

[cmfanel]

scheming cunt.


Everyone who is NT is Machiavellian to some degree. Being an awkward and edgy person is not Machiavellian in the slightest.

Oh but you have to start insulting because you simply don't have the ability to actually argue. Get out of my thread and never reply again.

55 kg extremely low T femboy​

shut the fuck up you inbred troglodyte son of rape baby whore monkey. even the most malnourished gas huffing abo has a higher SMV than the faggot son of a whore who has 35k posts on an incel forum. i can snap your neck with one hand you dog, watch who you're talking to. my associates and I are already planning a 4 hour skype call to discuss the most proper method of dealing with faggot cumskin rape baby dogs like you

 

[Deleted member 17791]

You have autism, habibi. Why are you teaching people how to become neurotypical?

It's part of my foid maxxing. So might as well share some with the forum.

 

[Deleted member 17791]

55 kg extremely low T femboy​

shut the fuck up you inbred troglodyte son of rape baby whore monkey. even the most malnourished gas huffing abo has a higher SMV than the faggot son of a whore who has 35k posts on an incel forum. i can snap your neck with one hand you dog, watch who you're talking to. my associates and I are already planning a 4 hour skype call to discuss the most proper method of dealing with faggot cumskin rape baby dogs like you

get back to offtopic you low effort troll

 

[Unhuman]

Lets say you don't want to work much. Lets say you want to make it big fast. Well, engaging in an ethical way simply is not the way.

This thread will be a guide for machievellianmaxxing.


1. Identify important and relevant people

First, you must correctly identify who is relevant to your success. Who is in a position that you can use to improve your own position? These are your boss, other people with control in areas that can effect you personally.

There is no point in trying to manipulate someone too far away from your own level. A plebian isn't going to be able to manipulate a king. The king doesn't give a fuck what you think. But a local lord might.


2. gather information

This is key to any successful manipulation. You must open your ears to any and all new information. Knowledge is the most powerful tool to have ever existed. Knowledge can change the game.

Always listen on conversations, always remember what others say if what they are talking about could be relevant. Gossip should be your best friend, use it.


3. identify what is important to other people

Knowledge is can only be useful if you know how to use it. identify how your knowledge can be used. Follow the CAII.

Collect (information)

Analysis

identify (it's relevance)

and implement

You must know how people may respond to information. How does a knight move on a chess board? It moves in an L shape. You can only be a successful manipulator once you know how your pieces operate.


5. know how to lie

Think of lies as icing on the cake, not the cake itself. The most successful lie is a small one buried inside a bigger truth. It is hard to uncover lies when they're baked into truths.


6. know when and what to divulge

You must know when to strike and how you will do it in order to create the desired result. The mood of an individual can effect how they may respond to information that you decided to share with them, they may not believe you if they're in a sub optimal state.


7. create situations that benefit you

Simply waiting for the right moment will hold you down and limit your potential. You must take an active role in creating that right moment to strike. But be careful, the more active you become, the harder it is for you to maintain control. Secrecy is your best friend and you should always maintain it. If it's possible that you may be revealed, lay low for a while.

Being dark triad because it always results in a negative sum gain when you look at the bigger picture. In the short term you may gain something but the whole society will have to suffer which will affect you eventually.

 

[Deleted member 22930]

I don't have the face and height required to manipulate somebody

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Being dark triad because it always results in a negative sum gain when you look at the bigger picture. In the short term you may gain something but the whole society will have to suffer which will affect you eventually.

What do you mean it will effect you eventually?

 

[Deleted member 17791]

I don't have the face and height required to manipulate somebody

well you're clearly not using the right manipulation tactics. You need to tailor your manipulation tactics to how you're naturally perceived.

Obviously a short and ugly person will need to do things differently than a pretty girl.

 

[Unhuman]

What do you mean it will effect you eventually?

It may take time to experience the consequences, it doesn't have to happen in the near future.

 

[Deleted member 17791]

It may take time to experience the consequences, it doesn't have to happen in the near future.

That's not really how it works. Karma is wrong. Things that go around doesn't always come around.

 

[Unhuman]

That's not really how it works. Karma is wrong. Things that go around doesn't always come around.

Karma is cause and effect, not you get what you deserve.

 

[Prince charming]

What are some manipulation tactics you reccomend/ common phrases you should use

 

[Deleted member 17791]

What are some manipulation tactics you reccomend/ common phrases you should use

Try to frame yourself as the one who is trying to help or someone who is neutral.

 

[Prince charming]

Try to frame yourself as the one who is trying to help or someone who is neutral.

Okay thank you

 

[BucketCrab]

Ok thread, but quite superficial.
This is barely a starting point on being machiavellian, let alone a "definitive guide".
Could use better formatting too, and sorely needs actual real life examples, although I understand it's hard to provide fitting ones.

48 laws of power by Greene is good at making you think of his tenets in real life situations, for example. He provides tons of situations where people have used a certain law to get their desired result.

 

[Deleted member 22191]

You have autism, habibi. Why are you teaching people how to become neurotypical?

cope

 

[Anchor_Ship]

how to go to hell 101

 

[Deleted member 17791]

how to go to hell 101

there is no god.

 

[Anchor_Ship]

there is no god.

We will find out now won't we

 

[Deleted member 17791]

We will find out now won't we

it's not going to happen because it's impossible. it's all retarded cope.

 

[Deleted member 22705]

Doesn't work if your face is ugly and people aren't interested in interacting with you.

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Doesn't work if your face is ugly and people aren't interested in interacting with you.

You just need to change how you approach things. Plenty of ugly men have played machiavelian game

 

[looksmaxxed]

if you need a guide you don't have it and will never have it. you can just cope by reading the prince and living vicariously through fictional characters like patrick bateman

 

[Deleted member 22971]

Machiavellianism is cope
Also it's easy for anyone who's not a low IQ NPC to identify manipulative dark triad retards and ruin their credibility or catch them in their own bullshit

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Machiavellianism is cope
Also it's easy for anyone who's not a low IQ NPC to identify manipulative dark triad retards and ruin their credibility or catch them in their own bullshit

That's not how I've seen it. Most people are extremely susceptible to manipulation.

 

[randomvanish]

That's not how I've seen it. Most people are extremely susceptible to manipulation.

elab

 

[Deleted member 17791]

elab

Uhhh? Talk to anyone on politics bro, most are stuck in the culture war narrative, no one talks about the surveillance state or the many ways the elites steal from us.

It's all trans rights (they make up 0.01% of the population) or another random bloody thing that doesn't really matter. When was the last time people talked about the stuff Snowden revealed?

 

[randomvanish]

Uhhh? Talk to anyone on politics bro, most are stuck in the culture war narrative, no one talks about the surveillance state or the many ways the elites steal from us.

It's all trans rights (they make up 0.01% of the population) or another random bloody thing that doesn't really matter. When was the last time people talked about the stuff Snowden revealed?

how this applies irl situations though?

 

[Deleted member 17791]

how this applies irl situations though?

It shows most people can be fooled.

Remember ponzi schemes are a thing, people can be tricked if you know how to find the right buttons.

 

[Verse]

how this applies irl situations though?

gl being manipulated by jews

 

[randomvanish]

It shows most people can be fooled.

Remember ponzi schemes are a thing, people can be tricked if you know how to find the right buttons.

fighting with corp and government is incredible hard, so people give up and don't care. not exactly the situation for the folks interaction though.

but i get your point.

 

[Deleted member 17791]

fighting with corp and government is incredible hard, so people give up and don't care. not exactly the situation for the folks interaction though.

but i get your point.

gl being manipulated by jews

It's hard to become wealthy if you're not good looking or cunning.

 

[Verse]

It's hard to become wealthy if you're not good looking or cunning.

true, ideally you should be both

 

[randomvanish]

good looking or cunning

let's become both my looksmaxing fellow

 

[Deleted member 17791]

true, ideally you should be both

let's become both my looksmaxing fellow

Ideal as fuck.


Lets all become Jew maxxed Alain Delons.

 

[Verse]

Ideal as fuck.
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Lets all become Jew maxxed Alain Delons.

no JB appeal I want to become 6'6 tiktok twink

 

[Deleted member 17791]

no JB appeal I want to become 6'6 tiktok twink

wtf? He's a JB magnet bruh.

 

[Verse]

wtf? He's a JB magnet bruh.

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Ideal for JB appeal is a recessed eshay with a silver chain necklace and a shit mullet.

 

[Verse]

Ideal for JB appeal is a recessed eshay with a silver chain necklace and a shit mullet.

agreed but without the mullet, that is school shooter appeal not JB appeal

 

[Deleted member 17791]

agreed but without the mullet, that is school shooter appeal not JB appeal

Nah, actually you need this

 

[Deleted member 22971]

Uhhh? Talk to anyone on politics bro, most are stuck in the culture war narrative, no one talks about the surveillance state or the many ways the elites steal from us.

It's all trans rights (they make up 0.01% of the population) or another random bloody thing that doesn't really matter. When was the last time people talked about the stuff Snowden revealed?

Yeah but those aren't the people who will catch out the dark triad retards.
It's conservative-minded people who easily notice Machiavellian behaviour and recognise patterns.
NPCs have no principles to base their judgements on, they just follow the groupthink herd and don't notice manipulators until they become victim themselves. Also a lot of "Machiavellian" types are just NPCs doing typical NPC shit like lying, gaslighting, personal attacks, etc. except they aren't intelligent enough to get away with it unnoticed.
I know it from experience of university; so many midwit IQ manipulative people in my class, I noticed it years before the rest of my group did. Eventually the class was split into different cliques but I could see the divisions very early on.

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Yeah but those aren't the people who will catch out the dark triad retards.
It's conservative-minded people who easily notice Machiavellian behaviour and recognise patterns.
NPCs have no principles to base their judgements on, they just follow the groupthink herd and don't notice manipulators until they become victim themselves. Also a lot of "Machiavellian" types are just NPCs doing typical NPC shit like lying, gaslighting, personal attacks, etc. except they aren't intelligent enough to get away with it unnoticed.
I know it from experience of university; so many midwit IQ manipulative people in my class, I noticed it years before the rest of my group did. Eventually the class was split into different cliques but I could see the divisions very early on.

Well of course you need the know how to actually do it effectively.

Bro. Uni was so disappointing for me. There are like 5 people in each class, like 90% of people just do it online and never go in person. Covid fucked me hard. This French 7psl chad has monopolized the entire female supply of my class. My autistic ass can't compete with that Chico lite.

 

[Deleted member 22971]

Well of course you need the know how to actually do it effectively.

Bro. Uni was so disappointing for me. There are like 5 people in each class, like 90% of people just do it online and never go in person. Covid fucked me hard. This French 7psl chad has monopolized the entire female supply of my class. My autistic ass can't compete with that Chico lite.

doesn't matter if you "do it effectively", anyone who's not an NPC and is paying attention can and probably will notice the patterns and manipulative behaviours eventually.

also dude 35k posts wtf you weren't going to compete anyway delete your acc srs

 

[Deleted member 17791]

doesn't matter if you "do it effectively", anyone who's not an NPC and is paying attention can and probably will notice the patterns and manipulative behaviours eventually.

also dude 35k posts wtf you weren't going to compete anyway delete your acc srs

I'm currently looksmaxxing. Once my eyes are blue, I'll have a higher PSL than him.