did i fuck myself forever

[evindp]

I’m 17, i was around 5’5 when I started test + hgh. i just wanted to grow taller and improve my facial structure. I made a dumb decision and hopped on test enanthate, like 150–200 mg a week for maybe 7–10 weeks (not even sure, I’d have to ask my mom).

My diet was trash, I got super bloated, and 2 weeks before school started I stopped test completely — no PCT, nothing — for about a month (July 20–Aug 22). Then I realized my body probably wasn’t producing testosterone anymore, got scared, and started pinning again. Been back on 200 mg/week for the past 3 weeks.

I’ve been running 6 IU of HGH daily this whole time too. Now I feel stuck. If I stop test, my body won’t produce its own. If I stay on, I’m bloated and basically committing to injections for life. I’m scared.

I just wanted to grow taller. I’ve even grown about an inch since starting HGH, so I think my growth plates are still open. But I’m also on 12.5 mg exemestane daily with 200 mg test, and I feel like that combo could close my plates early.

What I really want is to keep growing as tall as possible while keeping my face lean — but can I realistically stay on test + HGH and not look bloated, or is that impossible?

The picture is me peak bloat eating like shit on test
Im eating better now and going gym and doing cardio now im still bloat

 

[ketamin]

dumb niggas pinning before doing any research JFL

 

[evindp]

this is what i look like debloated

 

[bertoGnG]

I’m 17, i was around 5’5 when I started test + hgh. i just wanted to grow taller and improve my facial structure. I made a dumb decision and hopped on test enanthate, like 150–200 mg a week for maybe 7–10 weeks (not even sure, I’d have to ask my mom).

My diet was trash, I got super bloated, and 2 weeks before school started I stopped test completely — no PCT, nothing — for about a month (July 20–Aug 22). Then I realized my body probably wasn’t producing testosterone anymore, got scared, and started pinning again. Been back on 200 mg/week for the past 3 weeks.

I’ve been running 6 IU of HGH daily this whole time too. Now I feel stuck. If I stop test, my body won’t produce its own. If I stay on, I’m bloated and basically committing to injections for life. I’m scared.

I just wanted to grow taller. I’ve even grown about an inch since starting HGH, so I think my growth plates are still open. But I’m also on 12.5 mg exemestane daily with 200 mg test, and I feel like that combo could close my plates early.

What I really want is to keep growing as tall as possible while keeping my face lean — but can I realistically stay on test + HGH and not look bloated, or is that impossible?

The picture is me peak bloat eating like shit on test
Im eating better now and going gym and doing cardio now im still bloat

extreme bloating

 

[evindp]

dumb niggas pinning before doing any research JFL

fuck bro

 

[Zagro]

Then I realized my body probably wasn’t producing testosterone anymore

No shit bro you don’t instantly recover back your natty testosterone production

 

[evindp]

No shit bro you don’t instantly recover back your natty testosterone production

bro remember me i got coached by u but i didn’t do anything u said and i did it like a tard we messaged on discord bro can u msg me back on there

 

[Zagro]

bro remember me i got coached by u but i didn’t do anything u said and i did it like a tard we messaged on discord bro can u msg me back on there

My account had been suspended thats the reason for me not replying, add my new account my username is zagronoidv2.

 

[Gs.]

What the fuck is that bloat omg

Hop on an aromasin inhibitor it'll help with your extreme disgusting mf bloat

Eat clean and minimize sodium as much as you can
Eat a lot of potassium in your diet
Drink a lot of water

If you want to hop off test, please do pct or youre going to feel like shit for about 1-2 months before your natural production starts again

and no.

Youre not going to be depending on pinning your entire life, your hormonal axis goes back with time naturally, it just sucks having to feel and wait for it to fix itself

Kid you look like a fucking teletubby lock the fuck in you fucked up

Why would you hop on without research boy, atleast its reversible

 

[ThePrinceOfPersia]

the bloat is from estrogen, i really wanna be nice since youre struggling but youre a moron. Why would you do anything without learning the side effects. take 12.5mg aromasin daily to fix the bloat immediately because you might start getting gyno growth soon. buy some enclomiphene and hcg to take incase you need your balls back

 

[Zagro]

But I’m also on 12.5 mg exemestane daily

The bloats cause isn’t estrogen he’s already on 12.5mg exemestane/aromasin.

12.5mg aromasin

Hop on an aromasin inhibitor it'll help with your extreme disgusting mf bloat

 

[evindp]

the bloat is from estrogen, i really wanna be nice since youre struggling but youre a moron. Why would you do anything without learning the side effects. take 12.5mg aromasin daily to fix the bloat immediately because you might start getting gyno growth soon. buy some enclomiphene and hcg to take incase you need your balls back

bro ive been on 12.5mg aromasin daily im taking exemestane

 

[evindp]

What the fuck is that bloat omg

Hop on an aromasin inhibitor it'll help with your extreme disgusting mf bloat

Eat clean and minimize sodium as much as you can
Eat a lot of potassium in your diet
Drink a lot of water

If you want to hop off test, please do pct or youre going to feel like shit for about 1-2 months before your natural production starts again

and no.

Youre not going to be depending on pinning your entire life, your hormonal axis goes back with time naturally, it just sucks having to feel and wait for it to fix itself

Kid you look like a fucking teletubby lock the fuck in you fucked up

Why would you hop on without research boy, atleast its reversible

Na i think im going to lock in and stick to calorie deficit eat clean do hella cardio and drink hella water and i might hop on diuretics and just keep injecting

 

[ThePrinceOfPersia]

The bloats cause isn’t estrogen he’s already on 12.5mg exemestane/aromasin.

bro ive been on 12.5mg aromasin daily im taking exemestane

you either have boof exemestane, or youre genuinely doing something wrong and not telling us. buy hcg and enclo immediately

 

[Mike456]

I’m 17, i was around 5’5 when I started test + hgh. i just wanted to grow taller and improve my facial structure. I made a dumb decision and hopped on test enanthate, like 150–200 mg a week for maybe 7–10 weeks (not even sure, I’d have to ask my mom).

My diet was trash, I got super bloated, and 2 weeks before school started I stopped test completely — no PCT, nothing — for about a month (July 20–Aug 22). Then I realized my body probably wasn’t producing testosterone anymore, got scared, and started pinning again. Been back on 200 mg/week for the past 3 weeks.

I’ve been running 6 IU of HGH daily this whole time too. Now I feel stuck. If I stop test, my body won’t produce its own. If I stay on, I’m bloated and basically committing to injections for life. I’m scared.

I just wanted to grow taller. I’ve even grown about an inch since starting HGH, so I think my growth plates are still open. But I’m also on 12.5 mg exemestane daily with 200 mg test, and I feel like that combo could close my plates early.

What I really want is to keep growing as tall as possible while keeping my face lean — but can I realistically stay on test + HGH and not look bloated, or is that impossible?

The picture is me peak bloat eating like shit on test
Im eating better now and going gym and doing cardio now im still bloat

Everything that happened to you you deserve it

 

[Mike456]

you either have boof exemestane, or youre genuinely doing something wrong and not telling us. buy hcg and enclo immediately

Might not help him tho if he didn’t do nothing during the cycle and after he might be done

I think he is the 10% that gets his test shut off

 

[tunisianropemaxxer]

I’m 17, i was around 5’5 when I started test + hgh. i just wanted to grow taller and improve my facial structure. I made a dumb decision and hopped on test enanthate, like 150–200 mg a week for maybe 7–10 weeks (not even sure, I’d have to ask my mom).

My diet was trash, I got super bloated, and 2 weeks before school started I stopped test completely — no PCT, nothing — for about a month (July 20–Aug 22). Then I realized my body probably wasn’t producing testosterone anymore, got scared, and started pinning again. Been back on 200 mg/week for the past 3 weeks.

I’ve been running 6 IU of HGH daily this whole time too. Now I feel stuck. If I stop test, my body won’t produce its own. If I stay on, I’m bloated and basically committing to injections for life. I’m scared.

I just wanted to grow taller. I’ve even grown about an inch since starting HGH, so I think my growth plates are still open. But I’m also on 12.5 mg exemestane daily with 200 mg test, and I feel like that combo could close my plates early.

What I really want is to keep growing as tall as possible while keeping my face lean — but can I realistically stay on test + HGH and not look bloated, or is that impossible?

The picture is me peak bloat eating like shit on test
Im eating better now and going gym and doing cardio now im still bloat

Dumbass genuinly over

 

[ThePrinceOfPersia]

Everything that happened to you you deserve it

first of all, crazy

Might not help him tho if he didn’t do nothing during the cycle and after he might be done

I think he is the 10% that gets his test shut off

he might be, but pinning for life isnt even that bad, i think its just the hgh bloat causing him to look like that and the dht increase from the test causing the skin issues. he still needs to try and get his balls working again immediately. def does deserve it for messing with his hormones without researching but still needs to try

 

[evindp]

you either have boof exemestane, or youre genuinely doing something wrong and not telling us. buy hcg and enclo immediately

that was when i was eating like shit i look like this on a daily basis

 

[Mike456]

first of all, crazy

he might be, but pinning for life isnt even that bad, i think its just the hgh bloat causing him to look like that and the dht increase from the test causing the skin issues. he still needs to try and get his balls working again immediately. def does deserve it for messing with his hormones without researching but still needs to try

Yea but he needs blood test and even fertility test asap so we know what we work with

Crazy that his mother was ok with him pinning still maybe he can come back

 

[evindp]

Yea but he needs blood test and even fertility test asap so we know what we work with

Crazy that his mother was ok with him pinning still maybe he can come back

my mom said i need a doctors order for a blood test

 

[ThePrinceOfPersia]

that was when i was eating like shit i look like this on a daily basis

yo bro read this

Yea but he needs blood test and even fertility test asap so we know what we work with

Crazy that his mother was ok with him pinning still maybe he can come back

he can def come back its only been like 7-8 weeks. I genuinely think he can do it but he might unfortunately be one of the dudes where PCT doesnt work

 

[sexgod]

buy pct asap

 

[evindp]

yo bro read this

he can def come back its only been like 7-8 weeks. I genuinely think he can do it but he might unfortunately be one of the dudes where PCT doesnt work

so should i just keep pinning 200 a week

 

[wall]

you either have boof exemestane, or youre genuinely doing something wrong and not telling us. buy hcg and enclo immediately

60% chance he doesn't listen to you

 

[evindp]

buy pct asap

pct or keep injecting 200 a week

 

[evindp]

60% chance he doesn't listen to you

ima keep pinning and take diuretics

 

[wall]

ima keep pinning and take diuretics

ok, let us know how it goes

 

[ThePrinceOfPersia]

so should i just keep pinning 200 a week

pct or keep injecting 200 a week

ima keep pinning and take diuretics

60% chance he doesn't listen to you

wall you called it

 

[evindp]

wall you called it

bro a few people said pct might not work so what wrong with just continuing with pinning

 

[ThePrinceOfPersia]

bro a few people said pct might not work so what wrong with just continuing with pinning

you will never know unless you try, you can prob recover your levels and youre just gonna make it harder but not doing it rn. see if you can pct for like 2 weeks, if you feel it working then go for 4-6 weeks

 

[KindMaster1]

I’m 17, i was around 5’5 when I started test + hgh. i just wanted to grow taller and improve my facial structure. I made a dumb decision and hopped on test enanthate, like 150–200 mg a week for maybe 7–10 weeks (not even sure, I’d have to ask my mom).

My diet was trash, I got super bloated, and 2 weeks before school started I stopped test completely — no PCT, nothing — for about a month (July 20–Aug 22). Then I realized my body probably wasn’t producing testosterone anymore, got scared, and started pinning again. Been back on 200 mg/week for the past 3 weeks.

I’ve been running 6 IU of HGH daily this whole time too. Now I feel stuck. If I stop test, my body won’t produce its own. If I stay on, I’m bloated and basically committing to injections for life. I’m scared.

I just wanted to grow taller. I’ve even grown about an inch since starting HGH, so I think my growth plates are still open. But I’m also on 12.5 mg exemestane daily with 200 mg test, and I feel like that combo could close my plates early.

What I really want is to keep growing as tall as possible while keeping my face lean — but can I realistically stay on test + HGH and not look bloated, or is that impossible?

The picture is me peak bloat eating like shit on test
Im eating better now and going gym and doing cardio now im still bloat

I contemplated this exact scary situation after Goatis mentioned that you indeed will never be the same in terms of test production after pinning, despite myths by certain promoters of pinning.

Here is my ideas.
Go off pinning.
Make sure to pay for a hormonal panel.
Buy testicles (from butchers, farmers), liver (from hunters, farmers (if organic only, otherwise never buy poison)), oysters, and fat trimmings (organic, ideally grass fed yellow).
Eat 200 grams of fat trimmings minimum per day, plus 1 of those hormonal foods (testicles, liver, oysters) (ideally around 500 grams or more if can afford).
After time, make sure to pay for a hormonal panel again.
Compare between 2 panels. Also compare against a healthy human (1,000 points of testosterone is above average).
Now you know if you can heal your testosterone production naturally, or not (and should continue pinning, at least until the end of puberty and development which is at 21 when it comes to facial bones and last marginal height growth).

You can also pay primal people, like Gatis, for consultation, to get their opinion, and then after you get it, to assess my suggestion.

Explanation. Fat tissue has cholesterol and saturated fat to produce hormones. Testicles contain the tissues and hormones, from which pinnable testosterone is produced (so, it's the natural source). Liver and oysters increase testosterone (I know from experience). Hormonal panel is necessary to avoid guessing and waste of effort.

 

[wall]

I contemplated this exact scary situation after Goatis mentioned that you indeed will never be the same in terms of test production after pinning, despite myths by certain promoters of pinning.

Here is my ideas.
Go off pinning.
Make sure to pay for a hormonal panel.
Buy testicles (from butchers, farmers), liver (from hunters, farmers (if organic only, otherwise never buy poison)), oysters, and fat trimmings (organic, ideally grass fed yellow).
Eat 200 grams of fat trimmings minimum per day, plus 1 of those hormonal foods (testicles, liver, oysters) (ideally around 500 grams or more if can afford).
After time, make sure to pay for a hormonal panel again.
Compare between 2 panels. Also compare against a healthy human (1,000 points of testosterone is above average).
Now you know if you can heal your testosterone production naturally, or not (and should continue pinning, at least until the end of puberty and development which is at 21 when it comes to facial bones and last marginal height growth).

You can also pay primal people, like Gatis, for consultation, to get their opinion, and then after you get it, to assess my suggestion.

Explanation. Fat tissue has cholesterol and saturated fat to produce hormones. Testicles contain the tissues and hormones, from which pinnable testosterone is produced (so, it's the natural source). Liver and oysters increase testosterone (I know from experience). Hormonal panel is necessary to avoid guessing and waste of effort.

OP DNR
He's staying on test for height gains

 

[KindMaster1]

OP DNR
He's staying on test for height gains

Liver and milk are better for height gains than any pinning which might age your face.
Also, simple overload on seared red meat meat will do the same (genuine overload like 1.5 kilo per day) (farmer family kids turn out well developed from this).

 

[KindMaster1]

this is what i look like debloated

Bro you look like a main character.
Please share your looksmaxxes.
Or do you look like that naturally?

 

[wall]

Liver and milk are better for height gains than any pinning which might age your face.
Also, simple overload on seared red meat meat will do the same (genuine overload like 1.5 kilo per day) (farmer family kids turn out well developed from this).

Why are you not worried about cholesterol?

 

[KindMaster1]

Why are you not worried about cholesterol?

I think cooked / oxidised omega 6 fat from chicken and pork, might be caused of oxidised cholesterol (plaqueing arteries).
I've seen a study that cholesterol in the plaque is oxidised omega 6.
So, cholesterol in liver and beef fat is not gonna do any damage, only benefit side.

Plus I know for a fact that biggest cause plaque in arteries is solidified seed oils, micro plastics, and heated dairy (undigested sugars damage arteries plus indigestible cauterized minerals do same), because plaque has been analyzed.

 

[KindMaster1]

the bloat is from estrogen, i really wanna be nice since youre struggling but youre a moron. Why would you do anything without learning the side effects. take 12.5mg aromasin daily to fix the bloat immediately because you might start getting gyno growth soon. buy some enclomiphene and hcg to take incase you need your balls back

Bro do you know, can gyno appear from consuming coffee and energy drinks constantly?
They increase my libido, because they thicken the blood (just like potatoes without hydration would do), but, they might be the reason for fat and gyno I developed (btw I am obese right now).

 

[wall]

I think cooked / oxidised omega 6 fat from chicken and pork, might be caused of oxidised cholesterol (plaqueing arteries).
I've seen a study that cholesterol in the plaque is oxidised omega 6.
So, cholesterol in liver and beef fat is not gonna do any damage, only benefit side.

Plus I know for a fact that biggest cause plaque in arteries is solidified seed oils, micro plastics, and heated dairy (undigested sugars damage arteries plus indigestible cauterized minerals do same), because plaque has been analyzed.

Interesting info, thanks

 

[KindMaster1]

buy pct asap

Guys, can we use Post cycle therapy, to active hormonal brain glands, when we do not pin anything, just to improve hormones by 10 percent or more???
I am very interested in any optimizations available. Hormones are life.

@ThePrinceOfPersia

 

[sexgod]

Guys, can we use Post cycle therapy, to active hormonal brain glands, when we do not pin anything, just to improve hormones by 10 percent or more???
I am very interested in any optimizations available. Hormones are life.

@ThePrinceOfPersia

Enclo could boost your test, but I would pair it with proviron and mk, since proviron makes your body capable of utilizing more testosterone and dihydrotestosterone and enclo decreases your igf-1, so mk would counteract it.

 

[ThePrinceOfPersia]

Bro do you know, can gyno appear from consuming coffee and energy drinks constantly?
They increase my libido, because they thicken the blood (just like potatoes without hydration would do), but, they might be the reason for fat and gyno I developed (btw I am obese right now).

the reason isnt coffee and energy drinks, its just cuz ur fat man. Being fat is genuinely a cycle that is hard to get out of normally. buy reta to fix issues

 

[ScienceCel]

that was when i was eating like shit i look like this on a daily basis

how much weight have u gained since cycle?

 

[julioo27_]

dumb niggas pinning before doing any research JFL

fr natural selection at this point

 

[Noesis]

Bloat my ass you look like you just got your wisdom teeth removed

 

[KindMaster1]

Enclo could boost your test, but I would pair it with proviron and mk, since proviron makes your body capable of utilizing more testosterone and dihydrotestosterone and enclo decreases your igf-1, so mk would counteract it.

Thank you bro, very good solution information to try in real life.
Who knew we can stimulate brain glands.

It seems enclo is used for hypogonadic patients.


Typical increases with enclomiphene (from clinical studies and trials):
Men with secondary (central) hypogonadism commonly see total testosterone increases of about 50–150% from baseline after several weeks of treatment.
Free testosterone typically rises proportionally (often 50–100%+), depending on SHBG changes.
Absolute example: a man with baseline total T of 200 ng/dL (low) often reaches ~400–600 ng/dL on enclomiphene in trials.
Another common baseline/endpoint pattern: baseline 250 ng/dL → endpoint ~500–600 ng/dL.
Notes and caveats:
Response is highly individual. Men with primary testicular failure (high LH/FSH) usually do not respond.
Timeframe: measurable rises occur within 2–6 weeks; full effect may take longer.
Monitoring: labs (total/free T, LH, FSH, estradiol) are needed to confirm response and adjust dosing.
Safety: enclomiphene tends to preserve or improve fertility because it raises LH/FSH; adverse effects still possible.

 

[KindMaster1]

so should i just keep pinning 200 a week

Is 200ng a week even work?

I thought 200 ng / dl is below average level of testosterone.

Does it compound from 4 weeks into 800 ng? That's would be still only slightly above decent normal.

 

[ketamin]

Is 200ng a week even work?

I thought 200 ng / dl is below average level of testosterone.

Does it compound from 4 weeks into 800 ng? That's would be still only slightly above decent normal.

Is this ragebait?

 

[BudgetBarrett]

no one but yourself to blame you dumb cunt lmao

 

[leorules004]

I’m 17, i was around 5’5 when I started test + hgh. i just wanted to grow taller and improve my facial structure. I made a dumb decision and hopped on test enanthate, like 150–200 mg a week for maybe 7–10 weeks (not even sure, I’d have to ask my mom).

My diet was trash, I got super bloated, and 2 weeks before school started I stopped test completely — no PCT, nothing — for about a month (July 20–Aug 22). Then I realized my body probably wasn’t producing testosterone anymore, got scared, and started pinning again. Been back on 200 mg/week for the past 3 weeks.

I’ve been running 6 IU of HGH daily this whole time too. Now I feel stuck. If I stop test, my body won’t produce its own. If I stay on, I’m bloated and basically committing to injections for life. I’m scared.

I just wanted to grow taller. I’ve even grown about an inch since starting HGH, so I think my growth plates are still open. But I’m also on 12.5 mg exemestane daily with 200 mg test, and I feel like that combo could close my plates early.

What I really want is to keep growing as tall as possible while keeping my face lean — but can I realistically stay on test + HGH and not look bloated, or is that impossible?

The picture is me peak bloat eating like shit on test
Im eating better now and going gym and doing cardio now im still bloat

Oh brother