Did it suck being a milennial incel?

[GoodOutlook]

How do you even word anything. When wordage for any of this shit didn't exist.

Zoomer culture didn't even exist till like early-mid 2010s prolly.

 

[FoolYoungHi]

Nah. Pretty similar but less self concious about it. Always had hope (delusionmaxxing) vs. a bleaker outlook to be honest. I think we milennials were more delusional about things to cope with life. Zoomers seem to be more exposed to hard realities at a younger age because of social media. Could be wrong tho.

I think the fact that we can see other people's lives 24/7 makes us feel inferior. Back then you just played videogames, FPS's, MMORPG's and felt good about it lol. Even taking some pride in it. You were surrounded by people who were similar to you. Now people see succesful people living exciting lives and they think they are on their same level and that's when the anger and frustration comes from. For a majority of guys I think at least.

If you accept your place your anger will disappear. Or you need to fight until your last breath to get better, that's what I do. But it causes massive amounts of frustration, anger, reality checks, etc.

 

[GoodOutlook]

Nah. Pretty similar but less self concious about it. Always had hope (delusionmaxxing) vs. a bleaker outlook to be honest. I think we milennials were more delusional about things to cope with life. Zoomers seem to be more exposed to hard realities at a younger age because of social media. Could be wrong tho.

I think the fact that we can see other people's lives 24/7 makes us feel inferior. Back then you just played videogames, FPS's, MMORPG's and felt good about it lol. Even taking some pride in it. You were surrounded by people who were similar to you. Now people see succesful people living exciting lives and they think they are on their same level and that's when the anger and frustration comes from. For a majority of guys I think at least.

If you accept your place your anger will disappear. Or you need to fight until your last breath to get better, that's what I do. But it causes massive amounts of frustration, anger, reality checks, etc.

do you think all real knowledge was just pretentious fking around before the black/red pill era? all the nietzsche/ schopenhauer blabber isn't nonsense but ultimately for pseudos.

 

[GoodOutlook]

do you think all real knowledge was just pretentious fking around before the black/red pill era? all the nietzsche/ schopenhauer blabber isn't nonsense but ultimately for pseudos.

nietzsche may be legit tho but im talking about most religious/ philosophical/ political world views are just bullshit to serve the strong.

 

[GoodOutlook]

Nah. Pretty similar but less self concious about it. Always had hope (delusionmaxxing) vs. a bleaker outlook to be honest. I think we milennials were more delusional about things to cope with life. Zoomers seem to be more exposed to hard realities at a younger age because of social media. Could be wrong tho.

I think the fact that we can see other people's lives 24/7 makes us feel inferior. Back then you just played videogames, FPS's, MMORPG's and felt good about it lol. Even taking some pride in it. You were surrounded by people who were similar to you. Now people see succesful people living exciting lives and they think they are on their same level and that's when the anger and frustration comes from. For a majority of guys I think at least.

If you accept your place your anger will disappear. Or you need to fight until your last breath to get better, that's what I do. But it causes massive amounts of frustration, anger, reality checks, etc.

do you think milennials suffered the parents tho of having dads that were pure beer, labor and sportball. with some redneck activities liek fishing.

 

[romanstock]

We just used alpha/beta.

 

[Narroworbits]

We just used alpha/beta.

Are u really a fucking 35 yr old virgin

You must be brimming with rage when you glance at a slay story on here

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

.

 

[GoodOutlook]

We just used alpha/beta.

do you think that's suspiciously naive or was it truly that numb/dense of a time.

numb/dense because most people kept their analyzations to themselves like sociopaths or just bc it wasnt bad enough people didn't come together to talk about it.

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

How do you even word anything. When wordage for any of this shit didn't exist.

yeah bro, the millennials were real lost before words like skibidi toilet

 

[GoodOutlook]

yeah bro, the millennials were real lost before words like skibidi toilet

quit trying to strawman ty.

milennials seemed to be in that time where america was murrica and so there was no depth to every day local convos.

 

[noodlelover]

Yes. I was going to kill myself in my early 20s, but decided to delay it until 30 only if I hadn't had sex by then, to give myself a fighting chance.

I tried really hard, for many years with no results, and tried everything. Eventually got some slays before 30, mostly because I wound up location maxing in my late 20s, but that was a temporary situation so I'm incel again until I can location max again.

 

[noodlelover]

do you think milennials suffered the parents tho of having dads that were pure beer, labor and sportball. with some redneck activities liek fishing.

Most of our parent's had the attitude of "Kids are slaves that need to do exactly what they are told without explanation, or they will get slapped and beaten." If you're not hustling as hard as you can you get slapped and beaten. Cleaning, Dishes, Yardwork, etc. My parents would often say, they had kids because slavery was illegal.

There was no desire to teach, or communicate with us from our parents, it was only violence and subservience (we should be quiet all the time). Then we went out into the world got raddled with student loan debt and fucked by a recession where many of us couldn't get into our field or got squeezed out in layoffs, and wound up working minimum wage jobs with a life time of debt.

 

[romanstock]

Are u really a fucking 35 yr old virgin

You must be brimming with rage when you glance at a slay story on here

Nah, my masturbation scenarios are greater than anything they could ever achieve.

 

[romanstock]

do you think that's suspiciously naive or was it truly that numb/dense of a time.

numb/dense because most people kept their analyzations to themselves like sociopaths or just bc it wasnt bad enough people didn't come together to talk about it.

It was adequate, still is.

 

[Mr.Proper]

Think I and my peers learned about redpill back in late 00s when we were in school. From imageboards and cynical wikis. A book by some local dude was forced on russian imageboards, he used terms "alpha, beta, gamma, omega male/female". In place of what currently used as "beta" in the West, "omega" was commonly used. But it was redpill and mostly about "behavior", like "you can game your way to bed with any girl if you are great player", "status and game will get you everything", "alphas have natural confidence and assertive, omega are naturally (or learned) non-nt and/or anxious and high inhib, the are the scapegoat and the boy for eating of the group". Appearance was considered to play less of a role, and "men must be slightly better than an ape and that's it". Masc features, gym+tatoos+beard+short hair were welcome, pretty boys were ridiculized. Ofc, a lot of stuff was taken directly from the "pickup" scene.
There were local versions of Chad and Chud memes, but I don't remember local Stacies.
I'm speaking about 2009-2014 era.

 

[Angutoid]

Its over = It's been hopeless for a long time, from the very beginning. You will never represent, Raphaël, a young girl's erotic dream. You have to resign yourself to the inevitable; such things are not for you. It's already too late, in any case. The sexual failure you've known since your adolescence, Raphaël, the frustration that has followed you since the age of thirteen, will leave their indelible mark. Even supposing that you might have women in the future -- which in all frankness I doubt -- this will not be enough; nothing will ever be enough. You will always be an orphan to those adolescent loves you never knew.

 

[GoodOutlook]

Most of our parent's had the attitude of "Kids are slaves that need to do exactly what they are told without explanation, or they will get slapped and beaten." If you're not hustling as hard as you can you get slapped and beaten. Cleaning, Dishes, Yardwork, etc. My parents would often say, they had kids because slavery was illegal.

There was no desire to teach, or communicate with us from our parents, it was only violence and subservience (we should be quiet all the time). Then we went out into the world got raddled with student loan debt and fucked by a recession where many of us couldn't get into our field or got squeezed out in layoffs, and wound up working minimum wage jobs with a life time of debt.

do you think zoomer parents are different? they have creativity and critical thinking? but often end up in libtardism bc of it.

 

[GoodOutlook]

Think I and my peers learned about redpill back in late 00s when we were in school. From imageboards and cynical wikis. A book by some local dude was forced on russian imageboards, he used terms "alpha, beta, gamma, omega male/female". In place of what currently used as "beta" in the West, "omega" was commonly used. But it was redpill and mostly about "behavior", like "you can game your way to bed with any girl if you are great player", "status and game will get you everything", "alphas have natural confidence and assertive, omega are naturally (or learned) non-nt and/or anxious and high inhib, the are the scapegoat and the boy for eating of the group". Appearance was considered to play less of a role, and "men must be slightly better than an ape and that's it". Masc features, gym+tatoos+beard+short hair were welcome, pretty boys were ridiculized. Ofc, a lot of stuff was taken directly from the "pickup" scene.
There were local versions of Chad and Chud memes, but I don't remember local Stacies.
I'm speaking about 2009-2014 era.

so before then there was absolutely nothing and the "happy america days, just go outside bro the sun is shining" was the only form of wisdom there is concerning the matter.

Do you think they were dumb btw to glorify tryhard tapout andrew tate esque shit, and didn't realize timothee chalamet chad twink was kinda king with young girls then.

I swear people talk about the 90s/2000s like they're some happy murrica 1950s just with more emos/preps and linkin park.

 

[GoodOutlook]

It was adequate, still is.

doesn't say enough about archetypes of hot guys. white haven twinks, chud masculine, thugmaxxing, etc.

doesn't talk about the psychology of shit like rehab room gets into in his blackpill vids.

I honestly think that boomers/ gen x and milennial men all were used to toxic non-insulated environments and s hoarded all relevant sociological information to themselves. It took angry nerds staying inside for a long time to try to localize/ philosophize their anxiety beginning with ER.

 

[lurking truecel]

Black pill is common knowledge, but among the older generations it was probably just acceptance that some guys got all the play and some were the unfortunate once. Just like it is today. I mean you don't need to know the term Chad and mtn to understand the physical differences and the differences in treatment between the two. Most people just say to themselves and accept the situation that some have better genes than others, and this is something everyone knows. All this looks theory is just to confirm the obvious, and for most people the knowledge of it just hurt their life. You get nothing from it but lack of motivation becuase their is no cure to it. It's the way of human nature and will be the way of human nature untill we can remove natural instincts which we ofc can't.

 

[Pikabro]

They were more MGTOW/pua right? Or is that gen X

 

[GoodOutlook]

Black pill is common knowledge, but among the older generations it was probably just acceptance that some guys got all the play and some were the unfortunate once. Just like it is today. I mean you don't need to know the term Chad and mtn to understand the physical differences and the differences in treatment between the two. Most people just say to themselves and accept the situation that some have better genes than others, and this is something everyone knows. All this looks theory is just to confirm the obvious, and for most people the knowledge of it just hurt their life. You get nothing from it but lack of motivation becuase their is no cure to it. It's the way of human nature and will be the way of human nature untill we can remove natural instincts which we ofc can't.

we can do hand maid's tale shit. eugenics with throwing the bad egg girls to the incels for rape to satisfy everyone to get on board.

we also invented religion by exterminating the big bad ass neanderthals and creating books/ education/ etc. as a way to reverse it.
Communism was another but you'd have to do a lot of diplomatic games before you could be a stalin/ yezhov or some jew and put a girl somewhere far away in the white slave trade.

 

[lurking truecel]

we can do hand maid's tale shit. eugenics with throwing the bad egg girls to the incels for rape to satisfy everyone to get on board.

we also invented religion by exterminating the big bad ass neanderthals and creating books/ education/ etc. as a way to reverse it.
Communism was another but you'd have to do a lot of diplomatic games before you could be a stalin/ yezhov or some jew and put a girl somewhere far away in the white slave trade.

So you want the incels to get the bad eggs girls ? Don't know if I am following here. But yeah back in time Sweden made hookers legal so every man can have sex. And yes eugenics centers should become popular again, just like the Margaret Sanger and planned Parenthood organisation. No reason to have incel men and women running around in society

 

[Toad]

There were less incels back then, I remember even the ugliest guys in school had ugly girlfriends. I still struggled with girls to some extent because of my mental illness but eventually ended up dating one of the hottest girls in the school. However, I was statusmaxxed because my chaotic adhd behavior drew alot of attention and I got into trouble often. I was also really good at drawing, like savant level which would often cause the other kids to flock around me in class. My girlfriend treated me like shit though.

Unfortunately the consequences of my untreated adhd were that I had straight Fs throughout my entire school career. I eventually got kicked out of school and sent to a school for bad kids, which was basically a lite form of jail. I then got kicked out of there too for defiance. I spent the next few years wandering the streets and being invited to parties and hang outs by old high school friends. Despite my weirdness, I do well at parties because I'm insane and low inhibition so people enjoy having me around for entertainment value. I got a ltb gf and scored a couple of lays here and there.

I noticed the real problems started after I broke up with my ugly girlfriend, I spent 5 years trying to get laid and no girl would fuck me. It was insane, around 2015 I began searching for answers. I then discovered redpill, then SH, lookism etc. I think around this time there was some kind of massive shift in foid behavior, perhaps due to the rise of social media. The final nail in the coffin for incels however was the release of Tinder. I believe this was one of the driving factors behind the current incel epidemic

 

[GoodOutlook]

So you want the incels to get the bad eggs girls ? Don't know if I am following here. But yeah back in time Sweden made hookers legal so every man can have sex. And yes eugenics centers should become popular again, just like the Margaret Sanger and planned Parenthood organisation. No reason to have incel men and women running around in society

just stop the hoeflation zoomer tiktok adhd girls from procreating and give them as a prize to faithful incels to the cause.

why are swedish women around the tallest whitest guys but are so picky they have no kids. they close down preschools there now ffs.

 

[GoodOutlook]

There were less incels back then, I remember even the ugliest guys in school had ugly girlfriends. I still struggled with girls to some extent because of my mental illness but eventually ended up dating one of the hottest girls in the school. However, I was statusmaxxed because my chaotic adhd behavior drew alot of attention and I got into trouble often. I was also really good at drawing, like savant level which would often cause the other kids to flock around me in class. My girlfriend treated me like shit though.

Unfortunately the consequences of my untreated adhd were that I had straight Fs throughout my entire school career. I eventually got kicked out of school and sent to a school for bad kids, which was basically a lite form of jail. I then got kicked out of there too for defiance. I spent the next few years wandering the streets and being invited to parties and hang outs by old high school friends. Despite my weirdness, I do well at parties because I'm insane and low inhibition so people enjoy having me around for entertainment value. I got a ltb gf and scored a couple of lays here and there.

I noticed the real problems started after I broke up with my ugly girlfriend, I spent 5 years trying to get laid and no girl would fuck me. It was insane, around 2015 I began searching for answers. I then discovered redpill, then SH, lookism etc. I think around this time there was some kind of massive shift in foid behavior, perhaps due to the rise of social media. The final nail in the coffin for incels however was the release of Tinder. I believe this was one of the driving factors behind the current incel epidemic

do you think tis bc women now know more than 2 dozen men on the average when the internet became integrated with real life.

no longer can boomers say we're just chronically online autists. online is just as much of reality as reality.
boomers want shit to be so vanilla they'd die before letting anything new be real.

 

[Chinacurry]

We didn't really have incels back in those days.

Hell I can remember even as late as 2018 I slayed around 8 girls between February and August, then suddenly became incel overnight

 

[lurking truecel]

just stop the hoeflation zoomer tiktok adhd girls from procreating and give them as a prize to faithful incels to the cause.

why are swedish women around the tallest whitest guys but are so picky they have no kids. they close down preschools there now ffs.

Yes true, hoeflation is crazy as hell. And yes woman are so picky now it's a dead end race. And in Sweden many women are out traveling(you know what that means) when they late 20s. I actually think Sweden is one of the sluttiest countries in the world and woman have the highest standards here. And it's also extremely hard to get s good social circle here. From what I have seen from Swedish friends and girls around my age. Around late 20s, their is literally like 8+ women in friend group with 1 or 2 extremely good looking men in them(typical Swedish blonde htn+) I guess everyone one of them is going after the same guy. It's really degenerate here. it will probably be population problem but the selection for good looking guys is strong so Sweden will probably be more Chad dense in the future generations tho, but the consequence is the most incel dense place on earth probably

 

[Toad]

do you think tis bc women now know more than 2 dozen men on the average when the internet became integrated with real life.

no longer can boomers say we're just chronically online autists. online is just as much of reality as reality.
boomers want shit to be so vanilla they'd die before letting anything new be real.

That could be a part of it but also the fact that women began to gain full sexual autonomy. When I was in school as a kid it was looked down upon to be a hoe and girls were more careful about sleeping around. If they did it was kept secret. I think sometime around 2015-2016 female sexual liberation began to peak. This is when I began encountering super whores that didn't care.

Also, social media and dating apps gave these giga sluts full power to pick and choose as they saw fit. JFL what a fucking disaster

 

[GoodOutlook]

That could be a part of it but also the fact that women began to gain full sexual autonomy. When I was in school as a kid it was looked down upon to be a hoe and girls were more careful about sleeping around. If they did it was kept secret. I think sometime around 2015-2016 female sexual liberation began to peak. This is when I began encountering super whores that didn't care.

Also, social media and dating apps gave these giga sluts full power to pick and choose as they saw fit. JFL what a fucking disaster

darwinism is seen as liberating (bc women are dopamine depleted everywhere except vanity/ dominance, and so they want chad DNA) and feminism is used as a moral-crisis machine to exact whatever they want. yes?

Women hate feeling poor, and hate having to resort to JBW even in the philippines now to get something of a leg up.

 

[Toad]

darwinism is seen as liberating (bc women are dopamine depleted everywhere except vanity/ dominance, and so they want chad DNA) and feminism is used as a moral-crisis machine to exact whatever they want. yes?

Women hate feeling poor, and hate having to resort to JBW even in the philippines now to get something of a leg up.

Well, It's not necessarily women's fault this happened. It's in their nature to be hypergamous sexual selectors. This is more of a systemic issue caused by a shift in the societal zeitgeist. Radical feminism and weak male leaders fostered an ecosystem that amplified women's selective behaviors to an unnatural degree, causing an inevitable imbalance.

That's the reason why the US now has a populist leader and is slowly becoming Nazi Germany. These are the consequences of out of check hypergamy. More than half of all men are sexless and lonely. Did women really think that these same men would vote in favor of women's rights?

 

[GoodOutlook]

Well, It's not necessarily women's fault this happened. It's in their nature to be hypergamous sexual selectors. This is more of a systemic issue caused by a shift in the societal zeitgeist. Radical feminism and weak male leaders fostered an ecosystem that amplified women's selective behaviors to an unnatural degree, causing an inevitable imbalance.

That's the reason why the US now has a populist leader and is slowly becoming Nazi Germany. These are the consequences of out of check hypergamy. More than half of all men are sexless and lonely. Did women really think that these same men would vote in favor of women's rights?

what do you predict now? republicans winning and hyper authority because pro-trump? whats gonna happen soon with trump being elected.

 

[Mr.Proper]

Do you think they were dumb btw to glorify tryhard tapout andrew tate esque shit, and didn't realize timothee chalamet chad twink was kinda king with young girls then

Yes. But some people in the spaces knew, especially who were balding and doing hair transplants. They probably were the most blackpilled. "Just shave it off, bro, it's masculine and manly to be bald, girls don't care much about face, they care about muscles" gaslighting was present.
You should also understand that what I'm talking about was about Russia (and Eastern Europe too, I guess). In 90s, after the fall of USSR, criminal activity skyrocketed and gangs become the role model for youth. It was considered cool to be muscular, shave short hair or being bald, have prison tatoos, wear sunglasses all the time, wear sport clothes and suits. And showing how "tough" you are, being able to drink a lot without blinking your eyes, by participating in unnecessary fight and always wearing frown face. Having some sort of prison or detection experience was considered cool.
In prison, convicts used to have short hair or shaved head.
Gopniks, aka russian chavs, were common.
It influenced youth and it's one of the reasons russian guys were commonly having shorter hair and stupid haircuts in 90-00s.
Thankfully, this thing eventually died by 2010s or so.
In russian internet, "stupid cunt" archetype was known (Idk what would be English equivalent, "basic bitch"? "Normie bitch"?). Essentially, girls who had black and white photos in their profiles, pretentious quotes, who liked books like 50 shades of grey and such. On forums, it was recommended to avoid them for any LTR.

 

[noodlelover]

do you think zoomer parents are different? they have creativity and critical thinking? but often end up in libtardism bc of it.

That's a good point.

Probably most parents of most generations are hindrances to the success and flourishing of their children because their minds are following the popular bad ideas, rather than thinking for themselves.

It's the independent thinkers, that also have empathy and love that make the best parents.

 

[GoodOutlook]

Yes. But some people in the spaces knew, especially who were balding and doing hair transplants. They probably were the most blackpilled. "Just shave it off, bro, it's masculine and manly to be bald, girls don't care much about face, they care about muscles" gaslighting was present.
You should also understand that what I'm talking about was about Russia (and Eastern Europe too, I guess). In 90s, after the fall of USSR, criminal activity skyrocketed and gangs become the role model for youth. It was considered cool to be muscular, shave short hair or being bald, have prison tatoos, wear sunglasses all the time, wear sport clothes and suits. And showing how "tough" you are, being able to drink a lot without blinking your eyes, by participating in unnecessary fight and always wearing frown face. Having some sort of prison or detection experience was considered cool.
In prison, convicts used to have short hair or shaved head.
Gopniks, aka russian chavs, were common.
It influenced youth and it's one of the reasons russian guys were commonly having shorter hair and stupid haircuts in 90-00s.
Thankfully, this thing eventually died by 2010s or so.
In russian internet, "stupid cunt" archetype was known (Idk what would be English equivalent, "basic bitch"? "Normie bitch"?). Essentially, girls who had black and white photos in their profiles, pretentious quotes, who liked books like 50 shades of grey and such. On forums, it was recommended to avoid them for any LTR.

being of use doesn't mean shit most women want a vanity trip of being fancy, thus looks.

Some women want entertaining/ protective guys. No guarantee they won't get bored of that eventually tho unless they're old or ugly.

people live in their ego thanks to fantasies from screens/ tv. they want their life to match something impressive for passive ego boosts. everything else is meaningless.
Life is advanced but we're consumed by ourselves.

 

[GoodOutlook]

nietzsche may be legit tho but im talking about most religious/ philosophical/ political world views are just bullshit to serve the strong.

do y'all think most philosophy is useless until the harsh reality examinationfs from the red or black pill recent influx.

 

[FoolYoungHi]

We didn't really have incels back in those days.

Hell I can remember even as late as 2018 I slayed around 8 girls between February and August, then suddenly became incel overnight

There were definitely incels but you didn't hear or see them. Definitely less than now though.

I agree it was easier as a guy to fuck girls. I remember in 2014 on Tinder I had a girl come directly to my room with ease through Tinder. Of course this was only 1 example. I had a boatload of matches as well. Also matched with a ton of hotter girls. Pretty much what a chad experiences now. From there on it became harder and harder. Probably because I became older but it was definitely also harder in general.

Last time I went on Bumble I did have decent matches though but not a lot. But most of the hotter girls were exotics (I am in Europe) and those girls tend to go for lower SMV guys anyways. On Tinder mostly got whales and super unattractive girls. Eventhough I look decent (MTN) and I am tall.

 

[GoodOutlook]

We didn't really have incels back in those days.

Hell I can remember even as late as 2018 I slayed around 8 girls between February and August, then suddenly became incel overnight

Wtf could have changed in so little time

 

[GoodOutlook]

Wtf could have changed in so little time

covid couldnt have done all this so fast