Differences between ideal male and female ratios

[PinkPillSavedMe⚔]

I want to know what are the ideal ratios of both sexes , mainly face measurements .

Couldn't find anything like this on org for so long, neither have I got the info in tiktok and reddit.
maybe I can take measurements from ideal morphs but again.. most of the female morphs have a ton of make up on them for some reason and male ones don't
basically if u have sum like this pls answer

 

[Futura]

I want to know what are the ideal ratios of both sexes , mainly face measurements .

Couldn't find anything like this on org for so long, neither have I got the info in tiktok and reddit.
maybe I can take measurements from ideal morphs but again.. most of the female morphs have a ton of make up on them for some reason and male ones don't
basically if u have sum like this pls answer

Males taller face lower thicker brows smaller eyes less pct bigger mouth and nose more bone mass larger skulls

 

[pfl]

ESR: 0.443-0.477
Facial Thirds: Cant deviate by more than 3.5 from 33%, 36.5 maximum lower third height
Canthal Tilt: 5.2-8.5 ideal in caucasian men
Jaw Frontal Angle: 85-95
Ipsilateral alar angle deviation from jaw frontal angle: 2.5 at most
Ipsilateral alar angle: 85-95
Lower lip to upper lip ratio: 1.4-2
Eyebrow low setedness: 0-0.66 eye heights above the eye line
Eye aspect ratio: 2.8-3.6
Total Facial Width to Height Ratio: 1.33-1.38
FWHR: 1.9-2.06
Midface Ratio: 0.93-1.01
Eyebrow Tilt: 5-13 deg
Neck width relative to bigonial width: 90-100%
Bitemporal width: 85-95% of cheekbone width
cheekbone high setedness: Atleast 81% of midface height (at the eyeline)
Mouth to nose width: 1.38-1.53
Bigonail width: 85.5-92% of cheekbone width
Lower third proportion 30.6-34%

 

[Futura]

ESR: 0.443-0.477
Facial Thirds: Cant deviate by more than 3.5 from 33%, 36.5 maximum lower third height
Canthal Tilt: 5.2-8.5 ideal in caucasian men
Jaw Frontal Angle: 85-95
Ipsilateral alar angle deviation from jaw frontal angle: 2.5 at most
Ipsilateral alar angle: 85-95
Lower lip to upper lip ratio: 1.4-2
Eyebrow low setedness: 0-0.66 eye heights above the eye line
Eye aspect ratio: 2.8-3.6
Total Facial Width to Height Ratio: 1.33-1.38
FWHR: 1.9-2.06
Midface Ratio: 0.93-1.01
Eyebrow Tilt: 5-13 deg
Neck width relative to bigonial width: 90-100%
Bitemporal width: 85-95% of cheekbone width
cheekbone high setedness: Atleast 81% of midface height (at the eyeline)
Mouth to nose width: 1.38-1.53
Bigonail width: 85.5-92% of cheekbone width
Lower third proportion 30.6-34%

Tbh fwhr ideal is 1.8 to 2.0 and Tfwhr is 1.35 to 1.39, 1.33 is way too low

 

[pfl]

Tbh fwhr ideal is 1.8 to 2.0 and Tfwhr is 1.35 to 1.39, 1.33 is way too low

1.8 fwhr is not ideal

 

[Futura]

1.8 fwhr is not ideal

Cope it's more masculine than 2.0

 

[pfl]

Cope it's more masculine than 2.0

fwhr isnt a dimorphic measurement, both genders have the same average fwhrs
and even if it was then higher fwhr would be masculine since studies show higher fwhr is linked to higher prenatal t

 

[Futura]

fwhr isnt a dimorphic measurement, both genders have the same average fwhrs
and even if it was then higher fwhr would be masculine since studies show higher fwhr is linked to higher prenatal t

Slightly lower fwhr = taller face relatively which looks more masculine

 

[pfl]

Slightly lower fwhr = taller face relatively which looks more masculine

like i said not a dimorphic measurement

 

[Futura]

like i said not a dimorphic measurement

Not the measurement itself but lower fwhr is better if the rest of your face aligns this way

 

[KT-34]

ESR: 0.443-0.477
Facial Thirds: Cant deviate by more than 3.5 from 33%, 36.5 maximum lower third height
Canthal Tilt: 5.2-8.5 ideal in caucasian men
Jaw Frontal Angle: 85-95
Ipsilateral alar angle deviation from jaw frontal angle: 2.5 at most
Ipsilateral alar angle: 85-95
Lower lip to upper lip ratio: 1.4-2
Eyebrow low setedness: 0-0.66 eye heights above the eye line
Eye aspect ratio: 2.8-3.6
Total Facial Width to Height Ratio: 1.33-1.38
FWHR: 1.9-2.06
Midface Ratio: 0.93-1.01
Eyebrow Tilt: 5-13 deg
Neck width relative to bigonial width: 90-100%
Bitemporal width: 85-95% of cheekbone width
cheekbone high setedness: Atleast 81% of midface height (at the eyeline)
Mouth to nose width: 1.38-1.53
Bigonail width: 85.5-92% of cheekbone width
Lower third proportion 30.6-34%

Is there ideal ratios for races too?

 

[pfl]

Is there ideal ratios for races too?

yes but im not typing all of that shit out

 

[xevuxia]

Slightly lower fwhr = taller face relatively which looks more masculine

Higher fwhr makes you face more aggressive aka more masculine

 

[swagstar]

masculine since studies show higher fwhr is linked to higher prenatal t

doesnt mean it looks more masc

 

[pfl]

doesnt mean it looks more masc

what is the picture supposed to mean

 

[Futura]

Higher fwhr makes you face more aggressive aka more masculine

Taller fwhr = taller midface which means taller forhead and chin to balance = more masc

 

[swagstar]

what is the picture supposed to mean

its a dimorphic scale. notice that the mote masc it is, the higher the fhwr is. this is a common theme among many of these scales

 

[xevuxia]

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Taller fwhr = taller midface which means taller forhead and chin to balance = more masc

N we talking ab fwhr you can have high fwhr and tall forhead or chin

 

[Futura]

N we talking ab fwhr you can have high fwhr and tall forhead or chin

It would ruin facial thirds

 

[expert]

Slightly lower fwhr = taller face relatively which looks more masculine

doesnt work like that, maher has a 1.95 and he has a tall looking face

 

[xevuxia]

It would ruin facial thirds

Not really

 

[Futura]

doesnt work like that, maher has a 1.95 and he has a tall looking face

Yeah you're right, but you need to have really low set glabella for that which looks very aggressive and low trust

 

[expert]

Yeah you're right, but you need to have really low set glabella for that which looks very aggressive and low trust

ahhhhhhh its maher man

 

[PinkPillSavedMe⚔]

Ignore

 

[PinkPillSavedMe⚔]

I should talk less tbh

That was corny

 

[PinkPillSavedMe⚔]

ESR: 0.443-0.477
Facial Thirds: Cant deviate by more than 3.5 from 33%, 36.5 maximum lower third height
Canthal Tilt: 5.2-8.5 ideal in caucasian men
Jaw Frontal Angle: 85-95
Ipsilateral alar angle deviation from jaw frontal angle: 2.5 at most
Ipsilateral alar angle: 85-95
Lower lip to upper lip ratio: 1.4-2
Eyebrow low setedness: 0-0.66 eye heights above the eye line
Eye aspect ratio: 2.8-3.6
Total Facial Width to Height Ratio: 1.33-1.38
FWHR: 1.9-2.06
Midface Ratio: 0.93-1.01
Eyebrow Tilt: 5-13 deg
Neck width relative to bigonial width: 90-100%
Bitemporal width: 85-95% of cheekbone width
cheekbone high setedness: Atleast 81% of midface height (at the eyeline)
Mouth to nose width: 1.38-1.53
Bigonail width: 85.5-92% of cheekbone width
Lower third proportion 30.6-34%

Niceeee, what about female ratios?

 

[PinkPillSavedMe⚔]

Is there ideal ratios for races too?

Yeah pretty sure there's a post in botb about ideal ratios for blacks