Do fin/dut reduce bone mass development peak at age 25-28 that occurs POST PUBERTY

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As you can see David Ghandy acended from age 21 to 27 due to him reaching his peak bone mass which we all reach at age 25. His dimorphism increased dramatically because of this. What causes this? What hormones etc? Will finasteride and 5ar inhibitors stop this peak bone mass development and facial maturation POST PUBERTY that occurs and peaks at age 25?

 

[traeyoung]

Probably tbh, fin users look like trannys

 

[eyecon]

Probably tbh, fin users look like trannys View attachment 3057904View attachment 3057905

As strange as those images are, those guys clearly have developed and age appropriate bone mass, my thinking is test and hgh are culprits of bone mass peak not dht which is mostly pointless post puberty ?

 

[DHTrash]

100% due to T. I'm 27 and I noticed that my jawline changed very similarly to ghandis starting at around age 23-24 till 27. Yet I've been nuking DHT with fin & dut the entire time.

Probably tbh, fin users look like trannys View attachment 3057904View attachment 3057905

You better pray to St. Blackops2cel to ever look like them at ages 60 and 40 LMAO

 

[count grishnackh]

Probably tbh, fin users look like trannys View attachment 3057904View attachment 3057905

cope

 

[traeyoung]

As strange as those images are, those guys clearly have developed and age appropriate bone mass, my thinking is test and hgh are culprits of bone mass peak not dht which is mostly pointless post puberty ?

prolly, but fin certainly wont help either

 

[DR. NICKGA]

As you can see David Ghandy acended from age 21 to 27 due to him reaching his peak bone mass which we all reach at age 25. His dimorphism increased dramatically because of this. What causes this? What hormones etc? Will finasteride and 5ar inhibitors stop this peak bone mass development and facial maturation POST PUBERTY that occurs and peaks at age 25?

Probably tbh, fin users look like trannys View attachment 3057904View attachment 3057905

Bad photo vs good photo

 

[eyecon]

Bad photo vs good photo

You’re saying handy had no change in bone mass from 21 to 27?

 

[eyecon]

100% due to T. I'm 27 and I noticed that my jawline changed very similarly to ghandis starting at around age 23-24 till 27. Yet I've been nuking DHT with fin & dut the entire time.


You better pray to St. Blackops2cel to ever look like them at ages 60 and 40 LMAO

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Good to know. Is dht really that bad? Can I hop on fin at 20 now I know I need to and develop normally with age appropriate dimorphism? I don’t want to look like a baby face 20 year old at 27!

 

[DHTrash]

Good to know. Is dht really that bad? Can I hop on fin at 20 now I know I need to and develop normally with age appropriate dimorphism? I don’t want to look like a baby face 20 year old at 27!

Trust me, the older you get the more you wish you still had that baby face. Women have frequently complimented me because I look younger for my age. "Wow, you're 27 already? You look 22 tops!" It's not hard to look better than most men in my age-range, because 50% of men will be fat bald(ing) slapheads/neckbeards by this age. I'm not kidding, 50% of my friend group is already bald(ing).

And yes, DHT can absolutely kill your looks in your early-mid-late 20s. Just look at how Justin Bieber aged from his recent photos, and he only turned 30 this year. His balding, post-pubertal acne, wrinkles, are all caused by high sensitivity to DHT. Should you take fin at 20? If you're losing hair, absolutely. In hindsight I wish I could've started blasting dutasteride from age 20 lol. Age pill is fucking brutal.

 

[eyecon]

Trust me, the older you get the more you wish you still had that baby face. Women have frequently complimented me because I look younger for my age. "Wow, you're 27 already? You look 22 tops!" It's not hard to look better than most men in my age-range, because 50% of men will be fat bald(ing) slapheads/neckbeards by this age. I'm not kidding, 50% of my friend group is already bald(ing).

And yes, DHT can absolutely kill your looks in your early-mid-late 20s. Just look at how Justin Bieber aged from his recent photos, and he only turned 30 this year. His balding, post-pubertal acne, wrinkles, are all caused by high sensitivity to DHT. Should you take fin at 20? If you're losing hair, absolutely. In hindsight I wish I could've started blasting dutasteride from age 20 lol. Age pill is fucking brutal.

Yes good skin of a 20 year old at 27 is good but 20 year old bone structure at 27 isn’t great. But you’re saying your bones developed normally for you age and you look younge4 because of skin? I’m hopping on after bloodwork

 

[traeyoung]

Trust me, the older you get the more you wish you still had that baby face. Women have frequently complimented me because I look younger for my age. "Wow, you're 27 already? You look 22 tops!" It's not hard to look better than most men in my age-range, because 50% of men will be fat bald(ing) slapheads/neckbeards by this age. I'm not kidding, 50% of my friend group is already bald(ing).

And yes, DHT can absolutely kill your looks in your early-mid-late 20s. Just look at how Justin Bieber aged from his recent photos, and he only turned 30 this year. His balding, post-pubertal acne, wrinkles, are all caused by high sensitivity to DHT. Should you take fin at 20? If you're losing hair, absolutely. In hindsight I wish I could've started blasting dutasteride from age 20 lol. Age pill is fucking brutal.

Having a baby face when you're older isn't as good as you might think. Just makes you look uncanny like you never fully masculinized. Having good skin and a full head of hair is good tho.

 

[ineonx]

I have no fucking clue. I used finasteride since 16 and I regret it. Avoid every shit that blocks natural hormone production. Even if costs you to lose hair. I am 21yo and my dimorphism is giga fucked. I can't grow beard for shit, I have squeaky ass voice too. Brutal

 

[FutureChadronelite]

I have no fucking clue. I used finasteride since 16 and I regret it. Avoid every shit that blocks natural hormone production. Even if costs you to lose hair. I am 21yo and my dimorphism is giga fucked. I can't grow beard for shit, I have squeaky ass voice too. Brutal

brutal, i'm immune to fin bad side effect

 

[eyecon]

I don’t think that’s to do wit dht bro u just destined for that. I know that cos u said u got a squeaky voice which is purely due to low test. So that’s why u got low dimorphism too. Nothing to do with dht or finasteride. That’s genetics

 

[Deleted member 83600]

As you can see David Ghandy acended from age 21 to 27 due to him reaching his peak bone mass which we all reach at age 25. His dimorphism increased dramatically because of this. What causes this? What hormones etc? Will finasteride and 5ar inhibitors stop this peak bone mass development and facial maturation POST PUBERTY that occurs and peaks at age 2o g

It's strange why do most men faces change around the 20s mark?

 

[DR. NICKGA]

and he only turned 30 this year. His balding, post-pubertal acne, wrinkles, are all caused by high sensitivity to DHT.

Broscience , you cannot have a high sensivity to dht

Dht cause balding, balding age you 10000x
That is the only thing

 

[DR. NICKGA]

I don’t think that’s to do wit dht bro u just destined for that. I know that cos u said u got a squeaky voice which is purely due to low test. So that’s why u got low dimorphism too. Nothing to do with dht or finasteride. That’s genetics

Exactly

Increasing dht or T will not increase you dimporhism , you dont suddenly get big bones

I am not saying its all genetics, i am saying it dont matter how much androgens run in you blood , increasing it will not increase dimorphism

 

[eyecon]

Exactly

Increasing dht or T will not increase you dimporhism , you dont suddenly get big bones

I am not saying its all genetics, i am saying it dont matter how much androgens run in you blood , increasing it will not increase dimorphism

Increasing T and HGH will to an stent but mostly gentics

 

[DHTrash]

you cannot have a high sensivity to dht

This statement makes absolutely no sense. Here's why:

1. The Androgen Receptor
The sensitivity of hair follicles to DHT is, by definition, what causes male pattern baldness (MPB). This sensitivity is determined by genetic variations in the AR gene. These variations can lead to differences in how strongly DHT binds to the androgen receptor (AR) and how the hair follicle cells respond to DHT. This explains why men with lower DHT sensitivity, even if they have the same or higher levels of DHT, experience less or no hair loss because their hair follicles are less affected.

2. 5-alpha reductase
The 5-alpha-reductase (5AR) enzyme converts testosterone to DHT. There are two main isoenzymes: Type I and Type II (there is also a Type III, but it is less relevant for hair loss). If the activity of 5AR is lower, less testosterone is converted to DHT. Therefore, even if testosterone levels are the same, DHT levels can be lower, reducing the likelihood of hair loss. Like with AR genetic variations, genetic variations also play a role in 5AR. Genetic differences can influence the expression and activity levels of 5AR in individuals. Those with lower 5AR activity may produce less DHT in the scalp, leading to a reduced impact on hair follicles.

DHT causes balding, acne, as well as wrinkling (yes even wrinkling, since DHT also inhibits elastin production).

Absolutely useless trash hormone that should be nuked to 0 after puberty. If there was a drug stronger than dutasteride that inhibited 99,99% instead of 92-96% DHT, I'd hop on it immediately.

Yes good skin of a 20 year old at 27 is good but 20 year old bone structure at 27 isn’t great. But you’re saying your bones developed normally for you age and you look younge4 because of skin? I’m hopping on after bloodwork

Yes, I have very strong thick long hair which makes you look youthful which girls seethe over btw (jfl at short hair copers, see Tom Cruise mogging with long hair compared to short hair). Also no wrinkles, nasolabial folds, crows feet etc.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

no

 

[Niki9911]

Good to know. Is dht really that bad? Can I hop on fin at 20 now I know I need to and develop normally with age appropriate dimorphism? I don’t want to look like a baby face 20 year old at 27!

You can hop on fin no worries.

First pic is me at 18 before finasteride.

Second pic is me right now at 25 being on fin for 5 years.

As you can see, I aged like a normal person.

 

[Spergi]

Good to know. Is dht really that bad? Can I hop on fin at 20 now I know I need to and develop normally with age appropriate dimorphism? I don’t want to look like a baby face 20 year old at 27!

Just use topical Finasteride if you are concerned, no need to nuke hormones in your body

 

[GeThinnerLookBetter]

As you can see David Ghandy acended from age 21 to 27 due to him reaching his peak bone mass which we all reach at age 25. His dimorphism increased dramatically because of this. What causes this? What hormones etc? Will finasteride and 5ar inhibitors stop this peak bone mass development and facial maturation POST PUBERTY that occurs and peaks at age 25?

Hope not cause I’ma blast tren with with Dutasteride

 

[eyecon]

You can hop on fin no worries.

First pic is me at 18 before finasteride.

Second pic is me right now at 25 being on fin for 5 years.

As you can see, I aged like a normal person.

you do loook young for youre age tho

 

[WhoAmIReally]

Good observation, I've noticed this myself before, skull and facial bones keep growing and expanding even in 30s sometimes for few individuals, but usually till late 20s.
Ankles and wrists still keep growing slowly from pressure over the years even till 50s.
A man at same body fat and muscle mass at age 30 will be heavier than version of himself at age 20 with same amount of body fat and muscle mass thanks to his bones being heavier.

 

[MA_ascender]

Ghandy

Good morning Mr. Babjeet

 

[Niki9911]

you do loook young for youre age tho

Might be true but not like abnormally young. Maybe 20 to early twenties. And I definitely had a lot of changes from 18 to now. So finasteride didn't stun anything. Also after a certain age (my age tbh) it's a plus to not age as fast. You're old longer in your life than you are young anyway.

 

[Niki9911]

Good observation, I've noticed this myself before, skull and facial bones keep growing and expanding even in 30s sometimes for few individuals, but usually till late 20s.
Ankles and wrists still keep growing slowly from pressure over the years even till 50s.
A man at same body fat and muscle mass at age 30 will be heavier than version of himself at age 20 with same amount of body fat and muscle mass thanks to his bones being heavier.

True. I have the same body composition that I had 5 years ago but I'm like 7-8 kilograms heavier now.

 

[averagenormie]

I have no fucking clue. I used finasteride since 16 and I regret it. Avoid every shit that blocks natural hormone production. Even if costs you to lose hair. I am 21yo and my dimorphism is giga fucked. I can't grow beard for shit, I have squeaky ass voice too. Brutal

You've low testosterone

 

[averagenormie]

brutal, i'm immune to fin bad side effect

High t

 

[averagenormie]

Just use topical Finasteride if you are concerned, no need to nuke hormones in your body

"Low-dose DHT resulted in hepatic insulin resistance"

Low-Dose Dihydrotestosterone Drives Metabolic Dysfunction via Cytosolic and Nuclear Hepatic Androgen Receptor Mechanisms - PMC

Androgen excess in women is associated with metabolic dysfunction (e.g., obesity, hyperinsulinemia, insulin resistance, and increased risk of type 2 diabetes) and reproductive dysfunction (e.g., polycystic ovaries, amenorrhea, dysregulated ...

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