Do i have narrow clavicles? Been gym maxingg for 2 year

[Lightclein]

Be honest, and yess i know i am still skinny

 

[Angutoid]

Did you forget to hit one of your delts

 

[grungymallard97]

Be honest, and yess i know i am still skinnyView attachment 3382454View attachment 3382455

Average Clavicles

 

[Lightclein]

Did you forget to hit one of your delts

yeah idk why that one is smaller, it also has something to do with the lighting

 

[Lightclein]

Average Clavicles

okay perfect, someone told me they where narrow. average i take that

 

[grungymallard97]

okay perfect, someone told me they where narrow. average i take that

They’re on the more narrow side but definitely not “narrow”

 

[Esky1911]

Not narrow

 

[Lightclein]

They’re on the more narrow side but definitely not “narrow”

do ypu have a picture of wide ones

 

[grungymallard97]

do ypu have a picture of wide ones

Jeff Seid. I have wide ones

 

[NoaA99]

Not narrow and not even on the narrower side.
Just measure your biacromial breadth (the distance between the very outer bony part of your shoulder structure).
40-42cm is the average.
Also take your height into the consideration.

 

[Lightclein]

Not narrow and not even on the narrower side.
Just measure your biacromial breadth (the distance between the very outer bony part of your shoulder structure).
40-42cm is the average.
Also take your height into the consideration.

do i need to measure to my nek or form shoulder to shoulder? Thank for the help!

 

[NoaA99]

Jeff Seid. I have wide ones

Jeff seid has exceptionally wide ones.
I don’t thinks he is someone you should compare yourself, when evaluating body proportions.

 

[grungymallard97]

Jeff seid has exceptionally wide ones.
I don’t thinks he is someone you should compare yourself, when evaluating body proportions.

True but that’s still what wide Clavs look like +
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I find it's made me more curious too, asking more questions

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[vrilmaxxer]

focus on your narrow face

 

[NoaA99]

do i need to measure to my nek or form shoulder to shoulder? Thank for the help!

Measure to the very outer part of each acromion, NOT the clavicles. Many mistakenly underestimate their shoulder breadth by just measuring to the visible bony bump.

 

[Lightclein]

focus on your narrow face

yea face is pretty cooked

 

[vrilmaxxer]

yea face is pretty cooked

focus on your face, blast roids if you have to grow bonemass, take implants, face is the most important, frame and height come second

 

[Lightclein]

Measure to the very outer part of each acromion, NOT the clavicles. Many mistakenly underestimate their shoulder breadth by just measuring to the visible bony bump.

okay perfect, will see howmuch cm i have going on. legend for helping

 

[Lightclein]

focus on your face, blast roids if you have to grow bonemass, take implants, face is the most important, frame and height come second

which roid is a good one with out tomuch side effects

 

[vrilmaxxer]

which roid is a good one with out tomuch side effects

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[vrilmaxxer]

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I don't promote PEDs but if you are deformed you need them since your parents did not eat right or feed you right during your adolescence

 

[NoaA99]

True but that’s still what wide Clavs look like +
Holy fuark I've used that shit every damn day it's expanded my knowledge and able to go so far in depth versus traditional google and having to find sources myself I can't even believe my life prior

I find it's made me more curious too, asking more questions

Fuarking would have been nice during college although I did get some utility out of it my last semester

It depends. Jeff has a tiny waist to compliment the wide clavicles.
However many robust men have wider hips as well, as their bones developed larger in general.
When evaluating frame size, it’s best to simply measure absolutes and obviously take height into the equation.

Of course the perception of a wider frame matters the most but it is not totally reliable, when assessing actual frame size.

 

[NoaA99]

okay perfect, will see howmuch cm i have going on. legend for helping

Ideally you want someone else to measure it for you, unless you have a calliper.
It’s pretty hard getting an accurate measurement on your own.

Here are the exact percentiles:

 

[Lightclein]

I don't promote PEDs but if you are deformed you need them since your parents did not eat right or feed you right during your adolescence

deformed is crazyyy

 

[Entschuldigung]

You should tan

 

[vrilmaxxer]

deformed is crazyyy

sorry for being harsh, rather, less formulate then the good looking

second pic is pretty bad

 

[Mosh12]

Looks good

 

[Lightclein]

Ideally you want someone else to measure it for you, unless you have a calliper.
It’s pretty hard getting an accurate measurement on your own.

Here are the exact percentiles:

ahh okay will ask my sister for it then, interesting that the highest to the lowest % are not so far apart cm wise. i would have thought a bigger difference

 

[Lightclein]

sorry for being harsh, rather, less formulate then the good looking

second pic is pretty bad

no worries, what do i need to improve exactly, do hold in mind the lighting isnt very optimal for my face in the picture

 

[vrilmaxxer]

no worries, what do i need to improve exactly, do hold in mind the lighting isnt very optimal for my face in the picture

very narrow lower third, browse BOTB on the forum

 

[Lightclein]

You should tan

any product that you recommend?

 

[Entschuldigung]

any product that you recommend?

The sun

 

[NoaA99]

ahh okay will ask my sister for it then, interesting that the highest to the lowest % are not so far apart cm wise. i would have thought a bigger difference

Really? I’d day that shoulder breadth really doesn’t show that much variation and is mostly tied to overall body size differences.

Of course here in the forum, you are often exposed to pictures of extreme examples, which may distorts your beliefs.

 

[greycel]

Jeff seid has exceptionally wide ones.
I don’t thinks he is someone you should compare yourself, when evaluating body proportions.

Young, partially gymmaxed he looked like this

His shoulders aren't terribly wide compared to cranium.
Mine are pretty much exactly the same as pre (except waist is larger)

Just his shape is straight whilst mine is angled (got rounded shoulders), maybe makes it seem wider than it actually is, in addition to narrow waist?

 

[NoaA99]

Young, partially gymmaxed he looked like this
View attachment 3382535

His shoulders aren't terribly wide compared to cranium.
Mine are pretty much exactly the same as pre (except waist is larger)

Just his shape is straight whilst mine is angled (got rounded shoulders), maybe makes it seem wider than it actually is, in addition to narrow waist?

No it is not completely abnormal but just observing his physique against primary high tier bodybuilders at the natural mr. olympia shows, that they are definitely pretty damn wide. He stood out against arguably well above average competition. Hence he arguably has to be well within the top percentile for his height, even considering his smaller waist and generally ideal body composition.
So consider yourself lucky, if yours come close to his.

Surprisingly, I noticed, that many guys with rather curved clavicles tend to have more laterally extending and more square shaped shoulders.
Entirely straight clavicles are anatomically impossible anyways.

 

[EliteMewing]

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a bit below average exactly like mine
hit delts and lats harder

 

[swt]

eh

 

[JustHereToLooksmax]

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honestly they look both framecel and chad at the same time, its off putting. Like I looked at your lower body and though "JFL WHAT IS CHAD DOING HERE "
Saw the neck and thought "JFL FRAMECEL "
Your clavicles are average, your admirable narrow waist makes them look huge, and your neck makes them look tiny. Only solution is clavicular lengthening (plus ribcage implants so it doesnt look disproportionate), and also one only times putting on mass and SLIGHTLY training traps would go well would actually do wonders as it would decrease the appearance of a giraffe neck PLUS SPAM LATS AND DELTS. Take this advice and become the ultimate frame mogger .

 

[Beastimmung]

Probably average looks more narrow cause of long neck