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if i have very slight scleral show will infraorbital implant with saddle fix that?
 
can you explain sceleral show to me?
 
can you explain sceleral show to me?
scleral show is when the white part of the eye shows under the colored part. so it almost looks droopy and tired instead of tight and awake
 
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that bizarre curve that looks like such a failo. almost like his cheekbones are dented inwards. looks like his cheek is missing, actually.

why does that look so bad, yet this looks so good? (where they have the opposite of a "dent" and more of a "bump")

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that bizarre curve that looks like such a failo. almost like his cheekbones are dented inwards. looks like his cheek is missing, actually.

why does that look so bad, yet this looks so good? (where they have the opposite of a "dent" and more of a "bump")

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logan's maxilla is probably recessed. it probably looks like that in combination with large zygos
 
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that bizarre curve that looks like such a failo. almost like his cheekbones are dented inwards. looks like his cheek is missing, actually.

why does that look so bad, yet this looks so good? (where they have the opposite of a "dent" and more of a "bump")

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curve of ogee

scleral show is the visibility of the whites (scleral) of the eyes, when its visible under the iris usually
 
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curve of ogee

scleral show is the visibility of the whites (scleral) of the eyes, when its visible under the iris usually
bro ogee curve seems so fucking important

it looks insanely pretty. and an inverted curve looks so dumb and unharmonious. it looks gaunt and low class.


can you assess my ogee curve and overall features?



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logan's maxilla is probably recessed. it probably looks like that in combination with large zygos
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what do you make of his side profile and maxilla relation with mandible and just overall harmony?
 
bro ogee curve seems so fucking important

it looks insanely pretty. and an inverted curve looks so dumb and unharmonious. it looks gaunt and low class.


can you assess my ogee curve and overall features?



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your absolute first priority should be your jaw not og curve. your gonial angle is extremely steep and outside the norm. and your jaw lacks angularity and projection
 
Yeah you don’t have the curve
yeah, my region where the curve should be is so fucking ugly

do you know how I can fix this? or what I should do?
 
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yeah, my region where the curve should be is so fucking ugly

do you know how I can fix this? or what I should do?
I don’t know sorry it’s not one of my failos so I don’t know besides getting more lateral zygo projection and leaner in the cheek region
 
if i have very slight scleral show will infraorbital implant with saddle fix that?
they will help, as more infraorbital rim support along w suspension maneuvers help with NCT, scleral show, and other deformities…

But to be honest I don’t think you can afford them…
 
they will help, as more infraorbital rim support along w suspension maneuvers help with NCT, scleral show, and other deformities…

But to be honest I don’t think you can afford them…
why 😍 i have 3 jobs and even if i can't get them in the next year i'm still curious
 
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do you guys ever take pictures from far with 0 expression and realize it’s over?

or is it just me who hates these
 
do you guys ever take pictures from far with 0 expression and realize it’s over?

or is it just me who hates these
no it's not over for me bc i'm severely recessed and still have good harmony and sometimes get rated htn even with no jaw
 
no it's not over for me bc i'm severely recessed and still have good harmony and sometimes get rated htn even with no jaw
mirin

Ive been rated HTN by few people but im objectively LTN.

Almost every single angle from my side profile is unideal

I look around and I see that literally EVERYONE bonemogs me. The only white people i bonemog are DEFORMED
 
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mirin

Ive been rated HTN by few people but im objectively LTN.

Almost every single angle from my side profile is unideal

I look around and I see that literally EVERYONE bonemogs me. The only white people i bonemog are DEFORMED
i'm kind of deformed too especially from the side but once i get bimax i've been told i will be high htn
 
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that bizarre curve that looks like such a failo. almost like his cheekbones are dented inwards. looks like his cheek is missing, actually.

why does that look so bad, yet this looks so good? (where they have the opposite of a "dent" and more of a "bump")

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it's just the relationship between the protrusion of the mouth, and the maxilla

in the second example, the mouth area is not as protruded OR the maxilla is not as far back

in Logans example, his lower third is well developed, his cheekbones are also developed, but his maxilla is not the most forward positioned

it's a pheno trait - even his forehead is quite forward compared to his maxilla
heavy head tilt, not good to draw conclusions from
 
it looks gaunt and low class
it does not

but sure he would benefit from his maxilla being a bit more forward grown

bro ogee curve seems so fucking important

it looks insanely pretty. and an inverted curve looks so dumb and unharmonious. it looks gaunt and low class.


can you assess my ogee curve and overall features?



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bruh what the fuck is that hairstyle
I can see you had a HT but still
and you should only posts images hosted on imgur, because this way you can't take them down

your maxilla looks quite flat and not forward grown

your cheekbones are too small to have a defined ogee like logan - even if you were to have an ogee (through something like zygo implants), if you be similar to logan
 
your absolute first priority should be your jaw not og curve. your gonial angle is extremely steep and outside the norm. and your jaw lacks angularity and projection
his first priority should be his hair.
there's no point of hardmaxxing if you look like a subhuman Goku from mumbai
 
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that bizarre curve that looks like such a failo. almost like his cheekbones are dented inwards. looks like his cheek is missing, actually.

why does that look so bad, yet this looks so good? (where they have the opposite of a "dent" and more of a "bump")

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I think the first looks better and more chiseled than the last two. Looks flat and fat to me.
 

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