Do Women really care about our flaws?

[boxing-cel]

I see a lot of users here overly obsessed with minute features of their face like canthal tilt or midface ratios or whatever or something else like that.

I mean…sure objectively it matters but in reality? Like I can see a girl who I think is incredibly gorgeous and incredible and she could have some flaw like thin lips or a unique nose or whatever and to me it doesn’t really diminish her attractiveness. It may even enhance it.

At the end of the day most attraction is biological when your body decides someone would be a good mate. So, why overly worry neurotically about tiny features? The only thing that makes sense is healthmaxxing like clear and full skin, low body fat and good grooming, all of which enhances things you normally have. Beyond that…I don’t think you can do much anyways…and if she doesn’t like you she probably wouldn’t like you if your eye area was 10% more ideal based on some chart lol

 

[ltngreyy]

I see a lot of users here overly obsessed with minute features of their face like canthal tilt or midface ratios or whatever or something else like that.

I mean…sure objectively it matters but in reality? Like I can see a girl who I think is incredibly gorgeous and incredible and she could have some flaw like thin lips or a unique nose or whatever and to me it doesn’t really diminish her attractiveness. It may even enhance it.

At the end of the day most attraction is biological when your body decides someone would be a good mate. So, why overly worry neurotically about tiny features? The only thing that makes sense is healthmaxxing like clear and full skin, low body fat and good grooming, all of which enhances things you normally have. Beyond that…I don’t think you can do much anyways…and if she doesn’t like you she probably wouldn’t like you if your eye area was 10% more ideal based on some chart lol

Holy white pilled copper

 

[boxing-cel]

Holy white pilled copper

White pill is a compliment maybe you mean blue pilled lol

 

[ltngreyy]

White pill is a compliment maybe you mean blue pilled lol

Even if a foid ain know your flaws but she can still tell that there's something wrong with yo face as it's not developed properly n I sd white pilled cs there's no hope

 

[boxing-cel]

Even if a foid ain know your flaws but she can still tell that there's something wrong with yo face as it's not developed properly n I sd white pilled cs there's no hope

Just live your life bro. Don’t be driven by fear. Be like water.

 

[moliuny]

You will always notice these flaws. if they become "cute" its because u maxxed out everything else

 

[moliuny]

Just live your life bro. Don’t be driven by fear. Be like water.

Why are you here in this forum?

 

[boxing-cel]

Why are you here in this forum?

I believe in softmaxxing, examples of which I gave in the original post.

 

[away]

I see a lot of users here overly obsessed with minute features of their face like canthal tilt or midface ratios or whatever or something else like that.

I mean…sure objectively it matters but in reality? Like I can see a girl who I think is incredibly gorgeous and incredible and she could have some flaw like thin lips or a unique nose or whatever and to me it doesn’t really diminish her attractiveness. It may even enhance it.

At the end of the day most attraction is biological when your body decides someone would be a good mate. So, why overly worry neurotically about tiny features? The only thing that makes sense is healthmaxxing like clear and full skin, low body fat and good grooming, all of which enhances things you normally have. Beyond that…I don’t think you can do much anyways…and if she doesn’t like you she probably wouldn’t like you if your eye area was 10% more ideal based on some chart lol

look even if they dont point out your tiniest of flaws, they subconsciously can just tell if something is off about your face, they might not know what it is but they will realize it

 

[ltngreyy]

Just live your life bro. Don’t be driven by fear. Be like water.

Alr gg

 

[moliuny]

I believe in softmaxxing, examples of which I gave in the original post.

Make an example

 

[Kez Adam]

I believe in softmaxxing, examples of which I gave in the original post.

ur actually right

 

[boxing-cel]

look even if they dont point out your tiniest of flaws, they subconsciously can just tell if something is off about your face, they might not know what it is but they will realize it

I think if you’re MTN+ it’s much more likely they’d be put off by your shitty vibe, self hatred or lack of self belief than by a facial flaw

 

[boxing-cel]

Make an example

Leaning down, grooming, fashion, building muscle, skincare, hygiene, peptides/ PEDs, frauding, supplementation

 

[LTNUser]

They may not know about the canthal tilt or the midface ratio but their brain analyses the male face pretty well and arrives at a judgement in milliseconds
They may glaze and gaslight each other but when it comes to analysing a dude's face,they are very particular

You will always notice these flaws. if they become "cute" its because u maxxed out everything else

 

[boxing-cel]

They may not know about the canthal tilt or the midface ratio but their brain analyses the male face pretty well and arrives at a judgement in milliseconds
They may glaze and gaslight each other but when it comes to analysing a dude's face,they are very particular

If this was the case why do so many women like Jacob Elordi who has a pretty poor eye area…?

 

[EsDeeKid]

yes everyone does it unconsciously, it just a matter of how many flaws you have

 

[away]

I think if you’re MTN+ it’s much more likely they’d be put off by your shitty vibe, self hatred or lack of self belief than by a facial flaw

i mean in my case atleast i dont go out with people and act ND, what i say here and act here stays on the forums , i do think that if ur above HTN u can practically get away with anything

 

[combatingNorwooding]

Holy white pilled copper

Buzzworddddd

 

[magneso]

I see a lot of users here overly obsessed with minute features of their face like canthal tilt or midface ratios or whatever or something else like that.

I mean…sure objectively it matters but in reality? Like I can see a girl who I think is incredibly gorgeous and incredible and she could have some flaw like thin lips or a unique nose or whatever and to me it doesn’t really diminish her attractiveness. It may even enhance it.

At the end of the day most attraction is biological when your body decides someone would be a good mate. So, why overly worry neurotically about tiny features? The only thing that makes sense is healthmaxxing like clear and full skin, low body fat and good grooming, all of which enhances things you normally have. Beyond that…I don’t think you can do much anyways…and if she doesn’t like you she probably wouldn’t like you if your eye area was 10% more ideal based on some chart lol

Youre def in my top 10 worst users

 

[boxing-cel]

Youre def in my top 10 worst users

Not my first hater and you won’t be the last lol

 

[Ergogenic]

I see a lot of users here overly obsessed with minute features of their face like canthal tilt or midface ratios or whatever or something else like that.

I mean…sure objectively it matters but in reality? Like I can see a girl who I think is incredibly gorgeous and incredible and she could have some flaw like thin lips or a unique nose or whatever and to me it doesn’t really diminish her attractiveness. It may even enhance it.

At the end of the day most attraction is biological when your body decides someone would be a good mate. So, why overly worry neurotically about tiny features? The only thing that makes sense is healthmaxxing like clear and full skin, low body fat and good grooming, all of which enhances things you normally have. Beyond that…I don’t think you can do much anyways…and if she doesn’t like you she probably wouldn’t like you if your eye area was 10% more ideal based on some chart lol

Individual features are not as important as all features coming together to form facial harmony.

 

[boxing-cel]

i mean in my case atleast i dont go out with people and act ND, what i say here and act here stays on the forums , i do think that if ur above HTN u can practically get away with anything

ya I mean most users here look fine they just lack confidence lol

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

mean…sure objectively it matters but in reality? Like I can see a girl who I think is incredibly gorgeous and incredible and she could have some flaw like thin lips or a unique nose or whatever and to me it doesn’t really diminish her attractiveness. It may even enhance it.

Yes they matter in reality, empirical evidebce is the only reason why its considred ideal or unideal. You might not be able to pinpoint it but you still notice

Spontaneous Facial analisyses are incribly complex, we notice featueres down to a milimeter. Thid is why everyone seems to have a unique face and you know which faces are good and which are bad but if you ask the average person they likely have zero clue why that is, they might be able to say smaller things like eye color or white teeth but they like FAR from everyone with those features, if yoi actually quiz tthem on which people they like those things they express seem to have little correlation

The later part is likely cope, a flaw may be apparent so you assosiate her with that feature while her face overall might still be consired attractive when looked at holistically, so its about asosiation, not that feature in particular

At the end of the day most attraction is biological when your body decides someone would be a good mate. So, why overly worry neurotically about tiny features?

Because the way your body decided it is by looking at extremely tiny features, even tinyer than what people in this community can name and systemize

Beyond that…I don’t think you can do much anyways…and if she doesn’t like you she probably wouldn’t like you if your eye area was 10% more ideal based on some chart lol

Yiu can, surgery exists

Maybe she wouldnt maybe she would, but youre phrasing this as if the chart is arbitrary when these charts are made by testing enormous groups of people and testing attraction and finding strong patterns that people rarely stray away from

Its the same as saying would she like your house if the carpets was just a bit nicer, msybe maybe not but if we find what people like generally and replicate it as much as possible the value of the house still rises dramaticslly as more people like it

 

[boxing-cel]

Individual features are not as important as all features coming together to form facial harmony.

That’s a whitepill because you can artificially enhance harmony whereas any one feature is much harder to fix

 

[magneso]

Not my first hater and you won’t be the last lol

 

[Mercurius]

I see a lot of users here overly obsessed with minute features of their face like canthal tilt or midface ratios or whatever or something else like that.

I mean…sure objectively it matters but in reality? Like I can see a girl who I think is incredibly gorgeous and incredible and she could have some flaw like thin lips or a unique nose or whatever and to me it doesn’t really diminish her attractiveness. It may even enhance it.

At the end of the day most attraction is biological when your body decides someone would be a good mate. So, why overly worry neurotically about tiny features? The only thing that makes sense is healthmaxxing like clear and full skin, low body fat and good grooming, all of which enhances things you normally have. Beyond that…I don’t think you can do much anyways…and if she doesn’t like you she probably wouldn’t like you if your eye area was 10% more ideal based on some chart lol

yes, unconsciously

 

[ltngreyy]

Buzzworddddd

 

[boxing-cel]

Yes they matter in reality, empirical evidebce is the only reason why its considred ideal or unideal. You might not be able to pinpoint it but you still notice

Spontaneous Facial analisyses are incribly complex, we notice featueres down to a milimeter. Thid is why everyone seems to have a unique face and you know which faces are good and which are bad but if you ask the average person they likely have zero clue why that is, they might be able to say smaller things like eye color or white teeth but they like FAR from everyone with those features, if yoi actually quiz tthem on which people they like those things they express seem to have little correlation

The later part is likely cope, a flaw may be apparent so you assosiate her with that feature while her face overall might still be consired attractive when looked at holistically, so its about asosiation, not that feature in particular

Because the way your body decided it is by looking at extremely tiny features, even tinyer than what people in this community can name and systemize

Yiu can, surgery exists

Maybe she wouldnt maybe she would, but youre phrasing this as if the chart is arbitrary when these charts are made by testing enormous groups of people and testing attraction and finding strong patterns that people rarely stray away from

Its the same as saying would she like your house if the carpets was just a bit nicer, msybe maybe not but if we find what people like generally and replicate it as much as possible the value of the house still rises dramaticslly as more people like it

If the idea that tiny features decide attractiveness was true, then how do we see women like the appearance of some men like actors who have 1 or 2 aspects of their face that are objectively bad, based on empirical evidence as you said?

That demonstrates the importance of the whole package as opposed to any one thing…

Hell, even IRL you can see how one woman may find a guy repulsive, and another could find him incredible

I don’t think it’s so scientific. Sure on paper, you could make anyone better by optimising their ratios in a lab, but again…if a woman wants to have your kids I don’t think it’s worth thinking about that

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

If the idea that tiny features decide attractiveness was true, then how do we see women like the appearance of some men like actors who have 1 or 2 aspects of their face that are objectively bad, based on empirical evidence as you said?

Because harmony requires a hokistic approach, SO MANY THINGS MATTER, judging it like this would contradict the evidence

That demonstrates the importance of the whole package as opposed to any one thing…

Yeah, were just breaking the package into parts because to change it you need it more concrete

Hell, even IRL you can see how one woman may find a guy repulsive, and another could find him incredible

Very rare, maybe if people are just giving spontaneous answers as we tend to exagerate but if you compare and say hey is eric or chris better looking usually youll find a trend, assuming theyre not considered close in terms of an analysis

don’t think it’s so scientific

Everything is scientific

 

[boxing-cel]

Because harmony requires a hokistic approach, SO MANY THINGS MATTER, judging it like this would contradict the evidence

Yeah, were just breaking the package into parts because to change it you need it more concrete

Very rare, maybe if people are just giving spontaneous answers as we tend to exagerate but if you compare and say hey is eric or chris better looking usually youll find a trend, assuming theyre not considered close in terms of an analysis

Everything is scientific

I get what you’re trying to say, and I don’t disagree. My point is, once you reach a certain point of attractiveness, obsessing over one feature of your face is not productive. You hit the point of diminishing returns. Hence why I don’t think surgery is a good idea either, and embracing that particular flaw is going to give you both more fulfillment and success with women.

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

I get what you’re trying to say, and I don’t disagree. My point is, once you reach a certain point of attractiveness, obsessing over one feature of your face is not productive. You hit the point of diminishing returns. Hence why I don’t think surgery is a good idea either.

You never need to obsses as thats never productive. You dont need to be obsessed to get surgery, thats a bad way of making decisions anyway. But youll likely never reach the point of diminish return with cosmetic surgery, it consistently leads to more dating/social success and life satisfaction, you could but very few do. Attractiveness pretty much also always correlates strongly with desirable metrics so thats just wrong

 

[silverjet579]

I see a lot of users here overly obsessed with minute features of their face like canthal tilt or midface ratios or whatever or something else like that.

not even in the slightest are the considered minute features.

 

[boxing-cel]

not even in the slightest are the considered minute features.

If you’re MTN+ as I mentioned, I really don’t think it matters since you’re in the acceptable threshold of looks, which means none of them are subhuman tier

 

[Daddy's Home]

Do Women really care about our flaws?

 

[boxing-cel]

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This is like if I said women don’t care if you’re lean and athletic as opposed to being a pro bodybuilder and then you’d post a fatass obese black nigga with massive milkers and a chiseled aesthetic David Laid looking guy side by side

 

[silverjet579]

subhuman tier

 

[boxing-cel]

You never need to obsses as thats never productive. You dont need to be obsessed to get surgery, thats a bad way of making decisions anyway. But youll likely never reach the point of diminish return with cosmetic surgery, it consistently leads to more dating/social success and life satisfaction, you could but very few do. Attractiveness pretty much also always correlates strongly with desirable metrics so thats just wrong

In theory, sure. But a lot of the time surgery can go wrong or make you look uncanny. Although I guess that’s also not true per se, lots of good surgeons can make it look like you never got anything done…

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

In theory, sure. But a lot of the time surgery can go wrong or make you look uncanny. Although I guess that’s also not true per se, lots of good surgeons can make it look like you never got anything done…

That is still true, any surgery can go wrong but it can still be very likely beneficial, botches are rare and the uncannyness is almost always overfilled fillers, easy to avoid

 

[rrg]

I see a lot of users here overly obsessed with minute features of their face like canthal tilt or midface ratios or whatever or something else like that.

I mean…sure objectively it matters but in reality? Like I can see a girl who I think is incredibly gorgeous and incredible and she could have some flaw like thin lips or a unique nose or whatever and to me it doesn’t really diminish her attractiveness. It may even enhance it.

At the end of the day most attraction is biological when your body decides someone would be a good mate. So, why overly worry neurotically about tiny features? The only thing that makes sense is healthmaxxing like clear and full skin, low body fat and good grooming, all of which enhances things you normally have. Beyond that…I don’t think you can do much anyways…and if she doesn’t like you she probably wouldn’t like you if your eye area was 10% more ideal based on some chart lol

the whole idea is everyone sees the difference subconsciously

 

[SauerkrautEnjoyer]

I see a lot of users here overly obsessed with minute features of their face like canthal tilt or midface ratios or whatever or something else like that.

I mean…sure objectively it matters but in reality? Like I can see a girl who I think is incredibly gorgeous and incredible and she could have some flaw like thin lips or a unique nose or whatever and to me it doesn’t really diminish her attractiveness. It may even enhance it.

At the end of the day most attraction is biological when your body decides someone would be a good mate. So, why overly worry neurotically about tiny features? The only thing that makes sense is healthmaxxing like clear and full skin, low body fat and good grooming, all of which enhances things you normally have. Beyond that…I don’t think you can do much anyways…and if she doesn’t like you she probably wouldn’t like you if your eye area was 10% more ideal based on some chart lol

It's all the small things that add up honestly, some flaws are worse than others but canthal tilt def means its not the end for you.

 

[bjebb007]

if you really don't think they care why even be on this forum

 

[bjebb007]

one flaw isn't going to ruin you unless its something like brutal IPD, it's when you have many flaws u start to look subhuman