do you feel stupid or social anixiety when you talk to doctors or make an appointment (in regard of cosmetic procedures)

[homo_faber]

serious

 

[St. Wristcel]

yes and they oftentimes hate me because i am
DIRTY ETHNIC INCEL

 

[Deleted member 3043]

depending on the doc. And depending of my issue.
I'm pretty tired of my left eye slight ptosis that gives me an eye more open than the other when i'm tired.
So i make sure to don't care to talk about it to docs. Eventually i just get bluepill answers anyway "you'r gl, don't worry, it's not noticeable, you have cute almond eyes blabla". so i'm accustomed.

But talking about nose tip for example is purely aesthetics, and i'm a bit more shy.

 

[homo_faber]

i feel judged, social anixiety was through the roof when i was in a doctors office a few days ago

 

[Deleted member 3043]

i feel judged, social anixiety was through the roof when i was in a doctors office a few days ago

a cosmetic surgeon?
I made the mistake to talk about my looks issue to my "general" doctor, and to my psychiatrist.
Just to get told "muh body dysmorphia, you'r gl blabla". now i just say "yes you'r right".
And most eye surgeons told me what i want is not achievable and not needed. So it's either i'm psl autism maxxed or they bluepill me.
I'll still continue on my road to see if there is somebody that can do fix my issue, because i see it.

 

[mortis]

a cosmetic surgeon?
I made the mistake to talk about my looks issue to my "general" doctor, and to my psychiatrist.
Just to get told "muh body dysmorphia, you'r gl blabla". now i just say "yes you'r right".
And most eye surgeons told me what i want is not achievable and not needed. So it's either i'm psl autism maxxed or they bluepill me.
I'll still continue on my road to see if there is somebody that can do fix my issue, because i see it.

maybe you can't change it safely tbh thats why they say its not necessary.

 

[Deleted member 12218]

depending on the doc. And depending of my issue.
I'm pretty tired of my left eye slight ptosis that gives me an eye more open than the other when i'm tired.
So i make sure to don't care to talk about it to docs. Eventually i just get bluepill answers anyway "you'r gl, don't worry, it's not noticeable, you have cute almond eyes blabla". so i'm accustomed.

But talking about nose tip for example is purely aesthetics, and i'm a bit more shy.

Dude I fixed my ptosis in my left eye once I quit this game that I used to stare at 24/7. I also practiced opening my eyes as wide as possible and it worked.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

maybe you can't change it safely tbh thats why they say its not necessary.

yes most said it's not needed. And the one who told me he can't said that it has more cons than pros to suceed, and that he doesn't know anyone who can do it with success. But i also showed him a morph that i considered achievable. Seems like eye job is a clown job, and very hard to touch.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Appointments can be awkward depending on the surgeon.

Sometimes they won't explain why they can/can't do something, or brush it off without a second thought. It can be awkward to keep pressing them but you have to remember that it's your fucking face that is in question.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Dude I fixed my ptosis in my left eye once I quit this game that I used to stare at 24/7. I also practiced opening my eyes as wide as possible and it worked.

It was congenital too?

 

[Ocelot]

Appointments can be awkward depending on the surgeon.

Sometimes they won't explain why they can/can't do something, or brush it off without a second thought. It can be awkward to keep pressing them but you have to remember that it's your fucking face that is in question.

One irrational concern I've had is that I'll piss a surgeon off in the future and he'll intentionally fuck my face up by injecting stuff into a blood vessel or smth

muh lawsuit
no lawsuit for your face

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Appointments can be awkward depending on the surgeon.

Sometimes they won't explain why they can/can't do something, or brush it off without a second thought. It can be awkward to keep pressing them but you have to remember that it's your fucking face that is in question.

indeed tbh. I'm usually really shy to ask question about anything on anything when i don't know the individual, but once you know the results and the reputation of the plastic surgeon, ask him until you have 0 doubts, cuz well you paid for the consultation plus it's your damn face.

 

[Deleted member 12218]

It was congenital too?

Looking at my baby photos no, but I saw it develop over the years the more I spent time on electronics, it got worse when COVID hit but then I did what I mentioned and it worked. Not sure it works for your case but trying never hurts

 

[Deleted member 1862]

One irrational concern I've had is that I'll piss a surgeon off in the future and he'll intentionally fuck my face up by injecting stuff into a blood vessel or smth

muh lawsuit
no lawsuit for your face

lawsuit = ez money

usually when a surgeon seems cranky or unable/ unwilling to listen I'd take it as a bad sign. Got this vibe from Dr. Z, shithead tbh. Heard the same about Joel Defranq.

 

[Deleted member 7098]

i feel judged, social anixiety was through the roof when i was in a doctors office a few days ago

what do you plan on getting done? i feel like the more rational you are when explaining your situation the more willing they are to listen and are understanding.

if you are good looking go in and say you want mild enhancements, if you're ugly point out your flaws and then what you'd like him to change

 

[Ocelot]

lawsuit = ez money

usually when a surgeon seems cranky or unable/ unwilling to listen I'd take it as a bad sign. Got this vibe from Dr. Z, shithead tbh. Heard the same about Joel Defranq.

what surgery were you consulting them about?

 

[Deleted member 12344]

never get plastic surgery

 

[Timelessbrah]

No, because I know more about aesthetics than them. Yeah, you mirin my brag. Keep mirin.

 

[homo_faber]

what do you plan on getting done? i feel like the more rational you are when explaining your situation the more willing they are to listen and are understanding.

if you are good looking go in and say you want mild enhancements, if you're ugly point out your flaws and then what you'd like him to change

i need my lower eyelid lifted, canthopexy, canthoplasty whatever. the problem outside of the usa, uk (dr. taban and a few other in the usa, dr. ezra in the uk) literally no male is getting this especially in my country. every other person in my country who wants that is either a transgender or a 18 year old girl who wants the "fox eyes" of bella hadid. for some reasons (heterosexual) men getting surgery is unheard of in my country and gets judged (except maybe hairtransplant). im a fuckin trooper in my country, a fighter for equality and freedom. the first heterosexual male who aks doctors to perfom this. im comparable to rosa parks

 

[Deleted member 12344]

never get plastic surgery

this supposed to mean i never got

 

[Deleted member 1862]

what surgery were you consulting them about?

this was a while back, 2019, I was enquiring about SARPE, CW and ZSO.

Didn't get SARPE or ZSO in the end (thank god)

 

[Ocelot]

this was a while back, 2019, I was enquiring about SARPE, CW and ZSO.

Didn't get SARPE or ZSO in the end (thank god)

what's CW? CW rotation?

Also yeah ZSO seems like a PSL meme, never seen much about it.

 

[patricknotstar]

serious

No, more nervous because half of them don’t even speak English

 

[Deleted member 1862]

what's CW? CW rotation?

Also yeah ZSO seems like a PSL meme, never seen much about it.

chin wing

didn't get it in the end bc he couldn't answer my questions on predictablity & gonial angle. Got a different variation w a different surgeon.

ZSO isn't a COMPLETE meme but its just a much worse mlf3. Cheaper, but FAR worse aesthetic result & only marginally better recovery. Same scarring.

 

[lepo2317]

Dude I fixed my ptosis in my left eye once I quit this game that I used to stare at 24/7. I also practiced opening my eyes as wide as possible and it worked.

Just don't play computer games and open your eyes as wide as possible to fix ptosis theory. You have theory about neck posture being cause of balding, now this shit. Go to mental hospital psycho XD

 

[Ocelot]

chin wing

didn't get it in the end bc he couldn't answer my questions on predictablity & gonial angle. Got a different variation w a different surgeon.

ZSO isn't a COMPLETE meme but its just a much worse mlf3. Cheaper, but FAR worse aesthetic result & only marginally better recovery. Same scarring.

I remember reading from some user that chin wing results in a rounder mandible, because the gonions don't flare.

There are three types of gonions, outward, inward (brutal subhumanity), and one where it's along the same plane as the ramus (forgot the name, neither inward or outward basically) I thought this was BS until I saw a paper that mentioned that these three types did indeed exist

why not an osteotomy? like bsso + genio

 

[Deleted member 10172]

serious

why should u feel stupid u know the truth

 

[ecig]

a cosmetic surgeon?
I made the mistake to talk about my looks issue to my "general" doctor, and to my psychiatrist.
Just to get told "muh body dysmorphia, you'r gl blabla". now i just say "yes you'r right".
And most eye surgeons told me what i want is not achievable and not needed. So it's either i'm psl autism maxxed or they bluepill me.
I'll still continue on my road to see if there is somebody that can do fix my issue, because i see it.

which eye surgeon have u contacted ? for ptosis ?

 

[ecig]

when I got my first appointment with the surgeon for forehead reduction, he told me my forehead wasnt that big, I just told him
"Yes its just for optimal aesthetic"
Then he was like "ok give me my money I'll give you your optimal aesthetic"

 

[Deleted member 6873]

lawsuit = ez money

usually when a surgeon seems cranky or unable/ unwilling to listen I'd take it as a bad sign. Got this vibe from Dr. Z, shithead tbh. Heard the same about Joel Defranq.

Srs? i heard zarrinbal was pretty good also wtf nigga i thought u were american

 

[Deleted member 5799]

i would feel social anxiety on an urologist, not on a cosmetic surgeon

 

[homo_faber]

i would feel social anxiety on an urologist, not on a cosmetic surgeon

i think its the way my parents raised me. vanity was condemned and considered unmanly/ not masculine.

i feel like i have to justify for my decision to want to look less subhuman

fuck this

 

[Deleted member 5799]

i think its the way my parents raised me. vanity was condemned and considered unmanly/ not masculine.

i feel like i have to justify for my decision to want to look less subhuman

fuck this

think its their job, theyve seen dozens or hundreds of people probably uglier, you are just one more case

 

[homo_faber]

think its their job, theyve seen dozens or hundreds of people probably uglier, you are just one more case

indeed, thanks bro. appreciate it

 

[Deleted member 1862]

I remember reading from some user that chin wing results in a rounder mandible, because the gonions don't flare.

There are three types of gonions, outward, inward (brutal subhumanity), and one where it's along the same plane as the ramus (forgot the name, neither inward or outward basically) I thought this was BS until I saw a paper that mentioned that these three types did indeed exist

why not an osteotomy? like bsso + genio

was never a candidate for bsso because the placement of my jaws is good. Just wanted a wider palate & more anterior projection for chin.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Srs? i heard zarrinbal was pretty good also wtf nigga i thought u were american

lool i live in the uk

 

[Deleted member 6873]

lool i live in the uk

wtf i feel like this forum is mostly nerdics, curries or anglos.
how does it feel living so close to my country the netherlands aka #1 drugs capital of europe.
jiffle at anglos who cant buy mdma everywhere jiffle at not having 50% of political parties support legal mdma and xtc shops

 

[Ocelot]

was never a candidate for bsso because the placement of my jaws is good. Just wanted a wider palate & more anterior projection for chin.

if you need more chin projection, then how can your jaws be fine?

Either you have naturally large lips and proclined incisors (in which case trying to get more chin projection looks uncanny and makes it look like your mandible is too long, or you are overestimating how much chin projection you should have with large lips (Barrett's chin projection ideal if you have fish lips)

 

[Deleted member 1862]

if you need more chin projection, then how can your jaws be fine?

Either you have naturally large lips and proclined incisors (in which case trying to get more chin projection looks uncanny and makes it look like your mandible is too long, or you are overestimating how much chin projection you should have with large lips (Barrett's chin projection ideal if you have fish lips)

I felt I was lucky enough to get away with a visor osteomy instead of something much more invasive ie bimax. Whilst this doesn't get to the 'root' of the problem, I didn't want to risk looking worse. I have moderately hollow cheeks & generally good lower third. Didn't want to upset the balance.

Back to the problem, I had lower lip incompetence & a (in my eyes) deepish mentolabial fold.

Don't regret my decision ngl, saved a lot of money & time this way. Results are subtle but noticeable, especially in certain lighting.

 

[Deleted member 9511]

the covid mask stuff makes this so much easier tbh

used to be so embarrassed to talk to my derm about fin and shit
but with the masks at least it feels more anonymous