Do you have to track your macros and shit when gymcelling?

[Deleted member 26212]

Or can you just go along with your common sense? I eat normal breakfasts, 4 eggs and toast, , normal dinners with meat, potatoes and veg, I eat pasta with chicken for lunch or rice sometimes and I drink protein shakes etc. I am eating around 300 - 500 calories above maintenance during my bulk and recommended protein intake.
Is that enough or do I actually need to count all my carbs and shit like gymcel autists do? Don't wanna be weighing potatoes every time I have dinner jfl.

 

[KingBetaTut]

never but if someone tells me the benefits I’ll track them

 

[Orc]

counting and tracking is cope, eat less when you want to lose weight, eat more when you want to gain it.

 

[lordgandy2000]

Or can you just go along with your common sense? I eat normal breakfasts, normal dinners with meat and veg, I eat pasta with chicken for lunch or rice sometimes and I drink protein shakes etc.
Is that enough or do I actually need to count all my carbs and shit like gymcel autists do?

Nutrition labels on most food products are very off sometimes too so those autists counting calories are literally just writing fairytales for the most part

The basics give the majority of the results. If you eat enough protein/carbs and are progressing well in the gym and your physique, don't have to count calories.

 

[Deleted member 19453]

Nah you know what you're doing; don't waste your time.

 

[Gandy]

I just make a mental note of protein intake when I lift whether bulking or cutting.
I don't bother to count other macros.

As long as it's 150g or more daily whatever macros you take in wont matter that much in terms of preserving or gaining muscle mass.

It's also very, very hard to overeat on a cut if you eat healthy whole foods like meat, plants, and drink water instead of sugary sodas.
No need to count calories unless you eat a lot of junk or refined carbs.

As for bulking - as said above, just eat more. You will feel it when you are eating over your TDEE.
Once your noob gains period is over, you'll have to be in a caloric surplus to gain more muscle mass.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Cope.

 

[LOST]

If you wanna maximize everything yes.
Of course

 

[zharupodrugu]

Count it only for few week so you would have general idea of calories and macros.
Hitting your protein goals is the most important thing. Everything else is secondary.
Aim to gain about 1kg per month.

 

[Deleted member 26212]

Count it only for few week so you would have general idea of calories and macros.
Hitting your protein goals is the most important thing. Everything else is secondary.
Aim to gain about 1kg per month.

how much of the 1kg should be muscle?

 

[kokoszanel]

how much of the 1kg should be muscle?

All but from experience if you are non black its impossible to gain 1 kg muscle as natty without fat in 1 month.

 

[anoncell]

counting and tracking is cope, eat less when you want to lose weight, eat more when you want to gain it.

Ur retarded

 

[alien]

Or can you just go along with your common sense? I eat normal breakfasts, 4 eggs and toast, , normal dinners with meat, potatoes and veg, I eat pasta with chicken for lunch or rice sometimes and I drink protein shakes etc. I am eating around 300 - 500 calories above maintenance during my bulk and recommended protein intake.
Is that enough or do I actually need to count all my carbs and shit like gymcel autists do? Don't wanna be weighing potatoes every time I have dinner jfl.

How would you even know you are eating 300-500 calories above maintenance daily if you don't count calories or weigh yourself?
A 3,500 calorie surplus = 1 lb allegedly. So a 300-500 calorie surplus per day should be +0.6-1 lb/week. I weigh myself every morning when I wake up after I take a piss (dump if I can) and before I eat or drink anything. And then I calculate a 7-day average of my weight in Excel to track changes in my weight over time. As there are day-to-day fluctuations in your weight. If you eat a lot of food and drink, especially carbs, which cause water retention, your weight can fluctuate as much as 4 lbs day-to-day.

Anyways to answer your question, I personally track my protein and calorie intake. Though I don't track calories strictly the way I do protein. I just pay attention to my 7-day weight average and if I'm moving too fast up in weight according to my goal, I know I need to reduce calories or do more cardio. If I'm not moving up in weight too fast according to my goal or if I'm losing weight, I increase my calories. If I'm cutting and I'm losing weight too slowly, I cut calories. If I lose weight too fast, I increase calories.

I only track carbs before and after lifting weights to ensure that I have enough energy before lifting. And to replenish my glycogen stores after lifting. And before cardio to fuel the workout. I don't bother tracking fat at all. I just use common sense. You need some fat for muscle synthesis. So even when you are cutting, a low-fat diet is still kinda retarded if you lift. Some fat is essential. And a low-carb diet is very retarded if you lift. Even if you don't lift, you need carbs for cardio and some carbs just to have energy throughout the day.

If you have enough common sense, you don't need to track protein and calories. But I'm an autist who likes metrics so I do it for peace of mind. I have a digital kitchen scale to measure my scoops of protein powder and mass gainer powder. To measure the milk I put in my shaker bottle. To measure some of the other food I eat and ingredients for food prep.

 

[MadTwatter]

Or can you just go along with your common sense? I eat normal breakfasts, 4 eggs and toast, , normal dinners with meat, potatoes and veg, I eat pasta with chicken for lunch or rice sometimes and I drink protein shakes etc. I am eating around 300 - 500 calories above maintenance during my bulk and recommended protein intake.
Is that enough or do I actually need to count all my carbs and shit like gymcel autists do? Don't wanna be weighing potatoes every time I have dinner jfl.

If you haven’t already been lifting for 1+ year, tracking your macros is going to be a waste of time. I wouldn’t even bother tracking protein at that stage.

Keep it simple. Calories in vs calories out and trying to hit 50g protein with each meal should be your mantra.

Anything more is pure cope unless you’re trying to make money off your body at which point you should be on gear anyway.
Scratching your head while weighing out 50 grams of brown rice and 20 grams of lentils so that you can gain 0.001% more muscle is the epitome of gymcel retardation.

 

[DarkTetrad]

counting and tracking is cope, eat less when you want to lose weight, eat more when you want to gain it.

Bro let’s not act like you can actually change your weight above the initial 10-15 lbs you lose/gain in the first two weeks and then plateau forever.

Measuring is not necessary but most people greatly overestimate how much they can eat and still lose weight. This notion of losing 1 lb of body fat a week is a straight meme like Breh my weight fluctuate 4 lbs based on when I last ate, took a shit, or took a piss the only way ik im losing weight that slow is if I record it for at least 3 months and then what I find out I should have ate less and attempt another 3 month run reducing the count by 500 like cmon mayne quit clowning me

Aggressive cutting and 12 hour laborious jobs whilst on Roids, HGH, clen and t3 ftw jfl at not trying to lose that extra 20 lbs in 2 months.

 

[Orc]

Bro let’s not act like you can actually change your weight above the initial 10-15 lbs you lose/gain in the first two weeks and then plateau forever.

Measuring is not necessary but most people greatly overestimate how much they can eat and still lose weight. This notion of losing 1 lb of body fat a week is a straight meme like Breh my weight fluctuate 4 lbs based on when I last ate, took a shit, or took a piss the only way ik im losing weight that slow is if I record it for at least 3 months and then what I find out I should have ate less and attempt another 3 month run reducing the count by 500 like cmon mayne quit clowning me

Aggressive cutting and 12 hour laborious jobs whilst on Roids, HGH, clen and t3 ftw jfl at not trying to lose that extra 20 lbs in 2 months.

unless your hormonal signaling is impaired it's not that to hard to estimate when you need to eat more.

cutting = feeling hungry.
bulking = feeling full.

 

[alien]

This notion of losing 1 lb of body fat a week is a straight meme like Breh my weight fluctuate 4 lbs based on when I last ate, took a shit, or took a piss the only way ik im losing weight that slow is if I record it for at least 3 months and then what I find out I should have ate less and attempt another 3 month run reducing the count by 500 like cmon mayne quit clowning me

I have experience with cutting. I lost 40 lbs in 8 months. My weight can fluctuate as much as 4 lbs day-to-day depending on how much I ate and drink, especially carbs, and when was the last time I took a big dump. And this is with me measuring myself every morning when I wake up after taking a piss (a dump if possible too) and before eating or drinking anything. The best way to tell if you are legit losing weight is if you calculate a running 7-day average of your morning weight. And if your running 7-day average is consistently going up, then your weight gain is legitimate. And if it's consistently going down, then your weight loss is legitimate.

Alternate in Excel you can like do =MIN(B2:B8) or =MAX(B2:B8) (calculating the lowest or highest reading of your last 7 weigh-ins). And if you see the MIN or MAX go up consistently over time, then that's a sign of legitimate weight gain or loss.

I started my bulk out at 128.14 lbs 7-day avg (126.4 lbs lowest reading on September 29) in October. My current 7-day average is 140.97 lbs. I weighed in at 140.6 lbs this morning. The last time I recorded a weight under 140 lbs was January 26th. The last time I recorded a weight under 135 lbs was December 16. So that's how I know my weight gain is legit.

 

[zharupodrugu]

how much of the 1kg should be muscle?

75-80% approximately as novice very much possible but you need to follow weightlifting basics such as progressive overload, sleep and good hormonal profile.
At least 4 eggs a day is a must. + dont forget about d3+K2, creatine, Mg, Zn.