Does 24hr fasting increase hgh

[Nikolasirakleousbp]

Dpes fasting 24hr increase hgh

 

[vampi]

maybe, but it would be such an insigificant amount that it is just not worth it imo, although i am a fan of the omad diet

 

[Matthew24]

Dpes fasting 24hr increase hgh

Yeah , it realises hgh 3-20 times faster

 

[Matrix88]

Yea but not for growing, it's for muscle

 

[Nikolasirakleousbp]

maybe, but it would be such an insigificant amount that it is just not worth it imo, although i am a fan of the omad diet

Is jt good fot 13 year old boy bonemasd

 

[namrra]

Dpes fasting 24hr increase hgh

yes fasting will lower insulin levels and hence the hgh secretion increases

 

[Nikolasirakleousbp]

yes fasting will lower insulin levels and hence the hgh secretion increases

Wilp ig llt help bones

 

[cynical]

yes fasting will lower insulin levels and hence the hgh secretion increases

U people are retarded fasting increases only gh not igf1 u need food for igf1

 

[exyonf]

U people are retarded fasting increases only gh not igf1 u need food for igf1

GH → GHR → JAK2/STAT5 → Liver → IGF-1 → IGF-1R → downstream effects

 

[Mavueis]

Dpes fasting 24hr increase hgh

yes, mark as solution right now

 

[cynical]

GH → GHR → JAK2/STAT5 → Liver → IGF-1 → IGF-1R → downstream effects

That’s the pathway but igf1 lowers if u fast so fasting ≠ igf1 increase

 

[got.daim]

Dpes fasting 24hr increase hgh

IDK why people get really hung up on this idea that “HGH goes up during fasting so that must mean more growth,” but that’s honestly a super surface-level interpretation of what’s going on, because the body is not that simple, hormones don’t act in isolation, and context is basically everything, like yes, if you fast for ~24 hours, growth hormone secretion does go up, sometimes quite a bit, you’ll see these spikes and people latch onto that, but they completely ignore why it’s going up in the first place, and it’s not because your body is trying to make you taller or more anabolic, it’s literally doing the opposite, it’s trying to survive, it’s shifting into an energy conserving, fat-mobilizing state, so GH in that context is acting more like a metabolic stress hormone than a growth signal, it’s increasing lipolysis, helping maintain blood glucose, preserving lean tissue as best it can, not building new tissue, and the biggest thing everyone misses is that GH doesn’t directly cause height growth anyway, the real driver is IGF-1, which is produced in the liver in response to GH but only when the body has enough energy, insulin, and amino acids, and fasting basically tanks all of those, (insulin drops, amino acid availability drops, energy availability drops, ETC.) and the liver becomes resistant to GH signaling, so even though GH is high, IGF-1 goes down, and now you’ve uncoupled the whole system, so you’ve got this weird state where the “headline hormone” is elevated but the actual downstream growth signal is suppressed, and that’s what actually matters for bone elongation, especially at the growth plates, because those chondrocytes need IGF-1, insulin, thyroid hormone, all of that to proliferate and hypertrophy and lay down matrix, and fasting is basically telling the body “we don’t have resources for that right now,” so it downregulates those pathways, even thyroid conversion shifts (T3 drops) which further slows growth processes, and then people say “but GH is higher!” like that’s enough, (it's not) because in physiology, a hormone’s effect depends on the entire signaling environment, not just its concentration, and you can see this in real conditions too, like malnourished kids often have high GH but low IGF-1 and they don’t grow, or conditions where GH signaling is impaired, same story, high GH doesn’t equal height, and even beyond that, if your growth plates are already closed, which happens after puberty, then none of this matters anyway because there’s literally no mechanism left for longitudinal bone growth, doing repeated 24-hour fasts is more likely to hurt than help because growth is an energetically expensive, tightly regulated anabolic process, not something that happens when the body thinks it’s in a food-scarce environment, what GH actually does in different states, like in a fed state with adequate nutrition, GH contributes to growth through IGF-1, but in a fasted state it’s basically anti-insulin, pro-fat-burning, anti-anabolic, so yeah you can absolutely raise HGH by fasting, but you’re raising it in a context where it’s biologically not being used for growth at all, which is why the “fasting makes you taller” idea just doesn’t hold up once you actually look at the full system instead of one hormone in isolation,

TL;DR
Don't do it.
(mark as solution please)

 

[Nikolasirakleousbp]

IDK why people get really hung up on this idea that “HGH goes up during fasting so that must mean more growth,” but that’s honestly a super surface-level interpretation of what’s going on, because the body is not that simple, hormones don’t act in isolation, and context is basically everything, like yes, if you fast for ~24 hours, growth hormone secretion does go up, sometimes quite a bit, you’ll see these spikes and people latch onto that, but they completely ignore why it’s going up in the first place, and it’s not because your body is trying to make you taller or more anabolic, it’s literally doing the opposite, it’s trying to survive, it’s shifting into an energy conserving, fat-mobilizing state, so GH in that context is acting more like a metabolic stress hormone than a growth signal, it’s increasing lipolysis, helping maintain blood glucose, preserving lean tissue as best it can, not building new tissue, and the biggest thing everyone misses is that GH doesn’t directly cause height growth anyway, the real driver is IGF-1, which is produced in the liver in response to GH but only when the body has enough energy, insulin, and amino acids, and fasting basically tanks all of those, (insulin drops, amino acid availability drops, energy availability drops, ETC.) and the liver becomes resistant to GH signaling, so even though GH is high, IGF-1 goes down, and now you’ve uncoupled the whole system, so you’ve got this weird state where the “headline hormone” is elevated but the actual downstream growth signal is suppressed, and that’s what actually matters for bone elongation, especially at the growth plates, because those chondrocytes need IGF-1, insulin, thyroid hormone, all of that to proliferate and hypertrophy and lay down matrix, and fasting is basically telling the body “we don’t have resources for that right now,” so it downregulates those pathways, even thyroid conversion shifts (T3 drops) which further slows growth processes, and then people say “but GH is higher!” like that’s enough, (it's not) because in physiology, a hormone’s effect depends on the entire signaling environment, not just its concentration, and you can see this in real conditions too, like malnourished kids often have high GH but low IGF-1 and they don’t grow, or conditions where GH signaling is impaired, same story, high GH doesn’t equal height, and even beyond that, if your growth plates are already closed, which happens after puberty, then none of this matters anyway because there’s literally no mechanism left for longitudinal bone growth, doing repeated 24-hour fasts is more likely to hurt than help because growth is an energetically expensive, tightly regulated anabolic process, not something that happens when the body thinks it’s in a food-scarce environment, what GH actually does in different states, like in a fed state with adequate nutrition, GH contributes to growth through IGF-1, but in a fasted state it’s basically anti-insulin, pro-fat-burning, anti-anabolic, so yeah you can absolutely raise HGH by fasting, but you’re raising it in a context where it’s biologically not being used for growth at all, which is why the “fasting makes you taller” idea just doesn’t hold up once you actually look at the full system instead of one hormone in isolation,

TL;DR
Don't do it.
(mark as solution please)

Thanks brother

 

[user20266741]

Dpes fasting 24hr increase hgh

No

 

[got.daim]

Thanks brother

Mark as solution please