Does anyone actually even love god?

[swt]

Genuine question, I apologize if I come out as disrespectful as it is not my intention.

Is it actually possible for you to love someone you’ve never seen or even heard more than your parents ? I couldn’t imagine that, it sounds very strange to me

When I was trying (more like forcing myself) to become a believer, and I went to church, I’d see people start crying while praising god and all that, which I get, when you’re there, your body releases certain emotions because you believe you’re experiencing ‘Christ’, but is all that crying actually love? Putting the fact your body is releasing emotions to the side.

Again, I couldn’t imagine that, it’s extremely hard for me to comprehend.

 

[swt]

I already know for sure god, or atleast the Christian god, is unlikely to be real

So I just can’t see how people can love the idea of something even without ever seeing it more than their own parents, it’s impossible

People just claim to love god out of fear I feel like.

 

[marshadow]

Genuine question, I apologize if I come out as disrespectful as it is not my intention.

Is it actually possible for you to love someone you’ve never seen or even heard more than your parents ? I couldn’t imagine that, it sounds very strange to me

When I was trying (more like forcing myself) to become a believer, and I went to church, I’d see people start crying while praising god and all that, which I get, when you’re there, your body releases certain emotions because you believe you’re experiencing ‘Christ’, but is all that crying actually love? Putting the fact your body is releasing emotions to the side.

Again, I couldn’t imagine that, it’s extremely hard for me to comprehend.

I love my life. A lot. And God gave me not only my life, but also the ability to comprehend life as I do. Im very thankful and I love him a lot for providing for me.

 

[marshadow]

I already know for sure god, or atleast the Christian god, is unlikely to be real

So I just can’t see how people can love the idea of something even without ever seeing it more than their own parents, it’s impossible

People just claim to love god out of fear I feel like.

When people hate their circumstance, they usually pin the blame on one thing and focus ALL their hate towards that. Best example is Jews in Germany.

Just imagine the inverse, if you love your circumstance God is the only one you can give all your gratitude to.

 

[swt]

I love my life. A lot. And God gave me not only my life, but also the ability to comprehend life as I do. Im very thankful and I love him a lot for providing for me.

Well your life was a result of chance, you just happened to be a sperm cell in your father’s balls and your father happened to do it with your mother and you were a result of that, and then your environment was the way it was all by chance

And your way of viewing life is modeled by your environment and even genetics, and of course, society as a whole.

I don’t think any of it was God.

This is just what I think, im not making an attempt to make you sound dumb. But I’d definitely be interested to know what you think about this

 

[2025cel]

Yes Many people who believe in God has the trauma one could possibly imagine, The ones who don't believe God, have no need for God(yet) and God doesn't have any need for them!

 

[marshadow]

Well your life was a result of chance, you just happened to be a sperm cell in your father’s balls and your father happened to do it with your mother and you were a result of that, and then your environment was the way it was all by chance

If its all just a game of luck, shouldn’t I be more grateful that I got a great hand? And who could have provided the specific cards if not God?

 

[swt]

The ones who don't believe God, have no need for God(yet)

Actually, if god was real I’d definitely need him

I tried so many times throughout my life, he simply wasn’t there though

 

[2025cel]

Actually, if god was real I’d definitely need him

I tried so many times throughout my life, he simply wasn’t there though

Maybe you weren't effected by it so much as to the point where you need to seek out a being outside of the material realm?

 

[swt]

And who could have provided the specific cards if not God?

why isn’t these cards provided for everyone? wouldn’t everything be better? A loving god wouldn’t make things unfair the way they aren’t wouldn’t you agree?

If your life is good, yes i definitely encourage you to be grateful, thank god if that’s what you want. But what about the innocent people who weren’t given the same opportunity? Would a loving god let such thing happen?

 

[marshadow]

why isn’t these cards provided for everyone? wouldn’t everything be better? A loving god wouldn’t make things unfair the way they aren’t wouldn’t you agree?

If your life is good, yes i definitely encourage you to be grateful, thank god if that’s what you want. But what about the innocent people who weren’t given the same opportunity? Would a loving god let such thing happen?

God encourages people to help the less fortunate, ill use my good hand to help others. My entire future is surrounding a career path which’s entire job is to help people. God does have some disparities in his choices, but he tells us to help the less fortunate to compensate and create a better environment for all.

At the end of the day we are Gods play things. Just a pass time. If every story was perfect, it wouldn’t be much of a movie.

 

[got.daim]

yeah, i love him because he's the only being that loves me back, and if he doesn't, the idea of God makes me happy, that there's a guy watching me, who loves me, and cares about me, and he has a reason why i'm incel

 

[swt]

God encourages people to help the less fortunate, ill use my good hand to help others. My entire future is surrounding a career path which’s entire job is to help people. God does have some disparities in his choices, but he tells us to help the less fortunate to compensate and create a better environment for all.

At the end of the day we are Gods play things. Just a pass time. If every story was perfect, it wouldn’t be much of a movie.

Why do the “less fortunate” exist in the first place? Why are they less fortunate? Why couldn’t god bless everybody if he loves everybody

 

[marshadow]

Why do the “less fortunate” exist in the first place? Why are they less fortunate? Why couldn’t god bless everybody if he loves everybody

Wouldn’t be entertaining. Also, everyone has a fair opportunity at winning the game (entering Heaven), so.

 

[Klasik616]

Rich people aren't religious, think about this.

 

[IAmWhite]

Genuine question, I apologize if I come out as disrespectful as it is not my intention.

Is it actually possible for you to love someone you’ve never seen or even heard more than your parents ? I couldn’t imagine that, it sounds very strange to me

When I was trying (more like forcing myself) to become a believer, and I went to church, I’d see people start crying while praising god and all that, which I get, when you’re there, your body releases certain emotions because you believe you’re experiencing ‘Christ’, but is all that crying actually love? Putting the fact your body is releasing emotions to the side.

Again, I couldn’t imagine that, it’s extremely hard for me to comprehend.

schizos do love god

 

[swt]

Wouldn’t be entertaining. Also, everyone has a fair opportunity at winning the game (entering Heaven), so.

So god makes some people’s lives harder for his entertainment? Isn’t that ‘morally’ evil ?

and besides, a lot of people believe in god because of their lifestyle. So no, not everyone has a fair opportunity to enter heaven because not everyone has a reason to believe in god.

 

[marshadow]

So god makes some people’s lives harder for his entertainment? Isn’t that ‘morally’ evil ?

Nothing God does could possibly be morally evil. Its illogical.

and besides, a lot of people believe in god because of their lifestyle. So no, not everyone has a fair opportunity to enter heaven because not everyone has a reason to believe in god.

If you’ve heard of the Gospel, you have an equal chance as everyone else to believe it.
If you’ve never heard of the Gospel, you go to Heaven automatically.

 

[The Grinch]

Wouldn’t be entertaining.

So god lets children die in terrorist attacks or earthquakes for the purpose of entertainment? Alright bro, thanks for the information

 

[noodlelover]

God is all around you working in your life. Everything you have, you owe to god. He is the giver of everything.

It sounds like you don't truly believe, which means you are headed for hell, unless you wind up being saved.

Most people wind up in hell. What we know is, it's a lake of fire, and never ending pain, screaming and agony.

 

[Vermilioncore]

Yes it is. Because the love of God is reflected in the goodness. When you see something that is good and of God, you feel his love and you can love He who is the source of all things good.

 

[swt]

God is all around you working in your life. Everything you have, you owe to god. He is the giver of everything.

It sounds like you don't truly believe, which means you are headed for hell, unless you wind up being saved.

Most people wind up in hell. What we know is, it's a lake of fire, and never ending pain, screaming and agony.

if he was a loving god like everyone says, how come he’s sending me there for simply not being able to believe? I tried, I went to church for years, as a kid my main goal as to grow up and become a pastor. I wanted him to be real, so badly. But due to events in my life, I couldn’t hold on to my faith

If he was real, he’d see my pain, he’d see I tried, and so why would he do that to me?

 

[noodlelover]

if he was a loving god like everyone says, how come he’s sending me there for simply not being able to believe?

He loved every one so he sent his son to die on the cross, so that every one has the chance to go to heaven.

But not believing is rejecting his offer.

I tried, I went to church for years, as a kid my main goal as to grow up and become a pastor. I wanted him to be real, so badly. But due to events in my life, I couldn’t hold on to my faith

If he was real, he’d see my pain, he’d see I tried, and so why would he do that to me?

Because he wants you to go to hell. God is all powerful.

31.6 percent of the world is Christian.
This is a rough estimate. We don't know how many actually believe, but let's go with this for now.

About 62 million people a year die
So about, 19.5 million souls go to heaven a year.
About 68.4 million souls go to hell a year.

If you think earth is painful, that's 68.4 million souls being sent to hell to be in pain for all of eternity, every year. You don't even get to die in hell.

He set the entire universe in motion knowing this many souls would burn forever in hell do to his decision.

Why did he do this, rather than have every one be moral and live in a big garden of eden? Because he wanted to give humans free will.

Free will, does not mean free from causality. What it means is that some people will make the right choices, some people will come to the right believes, and some people will arrive at the wrong believes.

Roll a bunch of balls down a hill and the balls travel in different directions, are the balls free? Yes, if you consider the balls agents and their direction to be their choice.

God loves non-believers but not so much that he would take away their free will preventing them from being tortured in hell forever.

Hope this clears things up. Let me know if you have any questions.

 

[not__cel]

I love god, I’ve cried for god I’ve praised god he is all that’s right

 

[swt]

Because he wants you to go to hell. God is all powerful.

Why does god even create people who will eventually go to hell? Think with me here, he’s all powerful, so he can see the outcome of his creation right? He’ll be able to see where this person will go in life before even making them.

You’re probably thinking “free will” while reading this. Why would he make this person and give them this free will if he already knows what they’ll do with this free will? If you simplify it, you’ll see he strictly only made this person so he can send them to hell after, no?

 

[noodlelover]

Why does god even create people who will eventually go to hell? Think with me here, he’s all powerful, so he can see the outcome of his creation right? He’ll be able to see where this person will go in life before even making them.

God doesn't make mistakes.

He wants most people to burn in hell forever, but for some people to worship him in heaven forever.

He's all powerful. This is what he wants.

Heaven is god's dwelling place. God sits on a throne in heaven. Jesus sits on the right side of the throne. Heaven is a city with streets that are pure gold. Every one in heaven stands in front of gods throne clothed in white robes and worships him for all of eternity. There is no day or night, the light comes from god and it illuminates heaven.

The angles are around the throne worshiping him.

And here's Revelation 21:8 about hell: "But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

You’re probably thinking “free will” while reading this. Why would he make this person and give them this free will if he already knows what they’ll do with this free will? If you simplify it, you’ll see he strictly only made this person so he can send them to hell after, no?

Exactly! You understand.

 

[JasGews69x]

I tried so many times throughout my life, he simply wasn’t there though

We certainly tested those before them. And ˹in this way˺ Allah will clearly distinguish between those who are truthful and those who are liars. 29:3