Does Enclo reduce IGF1 if on HGH?

[ketamin]

I’m currently on HGH + IGF1 LR3 and started taking enclo 25mg daily 5 days ago as my test was supressed. But now I’m worried that it will decrease my IGF1 by a lot, will that happen even tho I pin HGH? My IGF1 Levels are currently at 800.

 

[FlotPSL]

I’m currently on HGH + IGF1 LR3 and started taking enclo 25mg daily 5 days ago as my test was supressed. But now I’m worried that it will decrease my IGF1 by a lot, will that happen even tho I pin HGH? My IGF1 Levels are currently at 800.

@imontheloose

 

[imontheloose]

@imontheloose

You should put that absolute dog shit, enclo, in the bin.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Not one good reason to be using Enclo. Like literally not one.

 

[ketamin]

Not one good reason to be using Enclo. Like literally not one.

Why is that?

 

[ketamin]

Bump

 

[Whirr22222]

What makes u think SERMs / AIs lower IGF1? Ur probably misinterpreting a study or listening to a retard who has misinterpreted a study. Regardless, drop enclo cos its dogshit and do what u know needs to be done, stop taking half measures.

 

[ketamin]

What makes u think SERMs / AIs lower IGF1? Ur probably misinterpreting a study or listening to a retard who has misinterpreted a study. Regardless, drop enclo cos its dogshit and do what u know needs to be done, stop taking half measures.

There are studies that SERMs do actually reduce IGF1. I’m not trynna hop on test yet, I’m genetically prone to acne and balding

 

[Whirr22222]

There are studies that SERMs do actually reduce IGF1. I’m not trynna hop on test yet, I’m genetically prone to acne and balding

Send them. AIs definitely dont if u dont misinterpret how to use them. Dont see how SERMs could be different. Maybe Im wrong but if u are considering taking Enclo in the first place u are probably watching a charlatan. Do more research, watch educated people like VigorousSteve.

If ur prone to balding use dut / fin. If ur scared use lowest efficacious dose of either, or RU.

Also if Enclo, by ur research, increases test dramatically then why would u use that if ur prone to balding jfl makes no sense? Heres u at the bottom of my page talking about taking a DHT derivate jfl. I am not trying to be harsh but I think you should research a whole ton more before making a desicion like taking PEDs.

As for acne, u are probably fine as long as u arent prone to bacne / body acne. Accutane even a low dose should do the trick.

 

[ketamin]

Send them. AIs definitely dont if u dont misinterpret how to use them. Dont see how SERMs could be different.

If ur prone to balding use dut / fin. If ur scared use lowest efficacious dose of either, or RU.

Also if Enclo, by ur research, increases test dramatically then why would u use that if ur prone to balding jfl makes no sense. As for acne, u are probably fine as long as u arent prone to bacne / body acne. Accutane even a low dose should do the trick.

I never said that enclo increases test dramatically. I only said that I’m supressed, my test is 300 ng/dl lower than it was 2 months ago.

Testosterone restoration using enclomiphene citrate in men with secondary hypogonadism: a pharmacodynamic and pharmacokinetic study - PMC

To determine the pharmacodynamic profile of serum total testosterone and luteinizing hormone (LH) levels in men with secondary hypogonadism after initial and chronic daily oral doses of enclomiphene citrate vs transdermal testosterone. To determine ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Oreone]

yes, there is a study where clomid was even used to treat acromegaly

Clomiphene citrate for treatment of acromegaly not controlled by conventional therapies - PubMed

Addition of CC should be considered an option in male acromegaly patients not controlled by current available options, with a considerable cost-saving benefit. Furthermore, improvement of T levels can be obtained in those patients with concurrent central hypogonadism.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Whirr22222]

I never said that enclo increases test dramatically. I only said that I’m supressed, my test is 300 ng/dl lower than it was 2 months ago.

Testosterone restoration using enclomiphene citrate in men with secondary hypogonadism: a pharmacodynamic and pharmacokinetic study - PMC

To determine the pharmacodynamic profile of serum total testosterone and luteinizing hormone (LH) levels in men with secondary hypogonadism after initial and chronic daily oral doses of enclomiphene citrate vs transdermal testosterone. To determine ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

After reading the study yeah it kinda ties into what I said:

if u dont misinterpret how to use them.

If u are natural to begin with and lower E2 below natural baseline ur gonna no doubt run into plenty of issues, 1 of which being lower IGF due to lower E2. High E2 mogs, if u dont have subhuman gyno genes. Also ties into what I said about not taking half measures ESPECIALLY if ur at 300ng.

 

[Ashikai]

What makes u think SERMs / AIs lower IGF1? Ur probably misinterpreting a study or listening to a retard who has misinterpreted a study. Regardless, drop enclo cos its dogshit and do what u know needs to be done, stop taking half measures.

can i ask why you consider enclo dogshit

 

[Whirr22222]

can i ask why you consider enclo dogshit

Its a half measure. If ur low T to begin with, say 300ng, doubling it - which doesnt even happen for all cases - is a very insignificant difference. Also lowers E2 below baseline. Never take half measures, just take T and if ur extremely paranoid about being shut down, which is unlikely if ur only running T, run a fertility protocol alongside it.

 

[sexgod]

What's the point of using enclo?

 

[MK 6-7]

Its a half measure. If ur low T to begin with, say 300ng, doubling it - which doesnt even happen for all cases - is a very insignificant difference. Also lowers E2 below baseline. Never take half measures, just take T and if ur extremely paranoid about being shut down, which is unlikely if ur only running T, run a fertility protocol alongside it.

Since when does T not shut you down?

 

[Whirr22222]

Since when does T not shut you down?

I meant its unlikely to shut you down for good