Does gym make you stronger?

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Does training in gym and getting bigger muscles make you physically stronger?

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Does training in gym and getting bigger muscles make you physically stronger?

@copingvolcel
March 2020cel asking if the gym makes you stronger :feelskek:
 
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No. Confidence does
 
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Ofc. More so if you train for strength rather than hypertrophy
 
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Does training in gym and getting bigger muscles make you physically stronger?

@copingvolcel
Why shouldn't it? You are literally training to lift progressively heavier loads and get bigger muscles in the process, obviously you're getting stronger.
 
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How fucking stupid are you
 
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Not practically

If you want get stronger in everyday life, you must hike, play euro football, and box or wrestle.

You will not be able to bench press a enemy bear away. But you could theoretically wrestle them into submission.
 

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Does training in gym and getting bigger muscles make you physically stronger?

@copingvolcel
Yes, muscle and strength are directly linked when you are a natural lifter.

And you don't have to put up world record numbers to be strong.To be really strong, you just have to reach a 135 lb overhead press, a 225 lb bench press, a 315 lb squat and a 405 lb deadlift (all for 5 reps minimum). And to get there, if you train seriously with a good program, good diet and good sleep, you can get there in 6-12 months (depending on your genetics).

And then, you'll be able to lift and carry any woman who isn't fat, and women love that.
 
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Not practically

If you want get stronger in everyday life, you must hike, play euro football, and box or wrestle.

You will not be able to bench press a enemy bear away. But you could theoretically wrestle them into submission.
Lol, hiking is a waste of time, and so are most sports, because it's all just cardio. The gym is the best way to get strong and get muscular, which is what women care about the most. They don't care about how fast you can run, they care about how muscular you look and whether or not you are able to lift and carry them.

Also, nobody can fight a bear with their bare hands. The human body isn't made to be able to fight wild animals in hand to hand combat, but the human brain was smart enough to come up with the idea of creating weapons to fight and defeat them. You can't train to have the strength of a gorilla, but if you get really close to your natural limit, you'll be stronger than the vast majority of men and more muscular too, so you'll mog them.
 
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Lol, hiking is a waste of time, and so are most sports, because it's all just cardio. The gym is the best way to get strong and get muscular, which is what women care about the most. They don't care about how fast you can run, they care about how muscular you look and whether or not you are able to lift and carry them.
funnily enough, running fast, having high stamina and endurance are actually really important traits for survival, considering the way early humans actually managed to survive by not outrunning predators directly, but rather being able to run for so long that the animals would just get tired and let us go.
 
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To be really strong, you just have to reach a 135 lb overhead press, a 225 lb bench press, a 315 lb squat and a 405 lb deadlift (all for 5 reps minimum).
Why these specific numbers tho?
 
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Lol, hiking is a waste of time, and so are most sports, because it's all just cardio. The gym is the best way to get strong and get muscular, which is what women care about the most. They don't care about how fast you can run, they care about how muscular you look and whether or not you are able to lift and carry them.

Also, nobody can fight a bear with their bare hands. The human body isn't made to be able to fight wild animals in hand to hand combat, but the human brain was smart enough to come up with the idea of creating weapons to fight and defeat them. You can't train to have the strength of a gorilla, but if you get really close to your natural limit, you'll be stronger than the vast majority of men and more muscular too, so you'll mog them.
Did you not read the second word I said? PRACTICALLY
 

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Did you not read the second word I said? PRACTICALLY
You don't even look like you lift, of course the gym isn't helping you, you haven't gotten strong enough yet.
 
Why these specific numbers tho?
Because most people reach the intermediate level at around those numbers, and that is when they start to plateau on most of their lifts and are unable to make progress. That is why in most gyms, you'll see guys who have been benching 225 lbs for many years who have never managed to reach 315. If you ask them, they'll say it's because it takes many years, but in reality, it's because they haven't changed their training since they became intermediate because they don't know that such a thing exists.

But the intermediate level will be different for each person, some will surpass the numbers I mentioned, while some won't reach them but they will get very close. So it doesn't have to be exactly those numbers but you should come close. It is very common for people who train the wrong way and who don't eat well and don't sleep well to struggle reaching close to those numbers, but for people who do everything right, they will reach close to those numbers in around 6 to 12 months, but longer for those who made some big mistakes in the beginning.

From the novice to the intermediate level, there is linear progression, but then it stops, that is how you know you are an intermediate lifter, when you can no longer make progress workout to workout in the same way, that is when you will need a periodized program.
 
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You don't even look like you lift, of course the gym isn't helping you, you haven't gotten strong enough yet.
I don’t. Because it’s not important at all
 
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this is a retarded fucking question. what do you think? do you think lifting weights would make you weaker?
 
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Is water wet? Is grass green? Is this the sky blue?
 
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funnily enough, running fast, having high stamina and endurance are actually really important traits for survival, considering the way early humans actually managed to survive by not outrunning predators directly, but rather being able to run for so long that the animals would just get tired and let us go.
Yes, but nowadays it is completely useless.
 
Guys does gaining height make me taller?
 
Yes, muscle and strength are directly linked when you are a natural lifter.

And you don't have to put up world record numbers to be strong.To be really strong, you just have to reach a 135 lb overhead press, a 225 lb bench press, a 315 lb squat and a 405 lb deadlift (all for 5 reps minimum). And to get there, if you train seriously with a good program, good diet and good sleep, you can get there in 6-12 months (depending on your genetics).

And then, you'll be able to lift and carry any woman who isn't fat, and women love that.
How long do you think getting to that level would take from such a low strength baseline? I've been making good progress at the gym but when I started I could only bench 75lbs for 5 and can only add 5lbs a week most weeks instead of all. Bench is up to 105 x 8 now and I'm trying to get to 135 by the end of June.
 
you'll be able to lift and carry any woman who isn't fat, and women love that.
I was able to do that as a 16 yo weakcel so I don't think you need any lifting for that
 
Yes, muscle and strength are directly linked when you are a natural lifter.

And you don't have to put up world record numbers to be strong.To be really strong, you just have to reach a 135 lb overhead press, a 225 lb bench press, a 315 lb squat and a 405 lb deadlift (all for 5 reps minimum). And to get there, if you train seriously with a good program, good diet and good sleep, you can get there in 6-12 months (depending on your genetics).

And then, you'll be able to lift and carry any woman who isn't fat, and women love that.
Have seen skinny guys who are naturally very strong and guys who go to gym and can't open a can of coffee "moccona".
How do you explain this?
 
How long do you think getting to that level would take from such a low strength baseline? I've been making good progress at the gym but when I started I could only bench 75lbs for 5 and can only add 5lbs a week most weeks instead of all. Bench is up to 105 x 8 now and I'm trying to get to 135 by the end of June.
The trick is to use an upper lower program where you do each exercise twice a week, that is how you can progress faster. Also, use 4 sets of 6-10 reps and add weight whenever you can do around 30 reps in total and instead of adding 5 lbs per workout, add 2.5 lbs to your upper body lifts by using 1.25 lb micro plates, it allows for better progress.

Also, your form may not be optimal. You have to do scapula retraction and go all the way down, and pause for 1-2 seconds on your chest for optimal chest activation for more strength and more muscle growth.

Look at this video and compare it to your form:



Most guys fuck up the bench press by not doing proper scapula retraction, without scapula retraction, you are going to use your shoulders a lot more than your chest. Scapula retraction forces you to use only your chest and your arms.

Also, if you do skullcrushers and curls at the end of your upper body workouts, you can gain strength in your arms and bench press more weight as a result, that is why arm work is essential, but you only need 1 exercise for the biceps and 1 exercise for the triceps, you don't need 5 exercises for each.
 
I was able to do that as a 16 yo weakcel so I don't think you need any lifting for that
It depends on your genetics, I have always had skinny long arms. Before I started lifting, I had only skin and bones, and when I looked at my biceps, there was just the bone, while now that bone is covered with a lot of muscle mass and I have a real bicep peak, although it is still quite small.
 
The trick is to use an upper lower program where you do each exercise twice a week, that is how you can progress faster. Also, use 4 sets of 6-10 reps and add weight whenever you can do around 30 reps in total and instead of adding 5 lbs per workout, add 2.5 lbs to your upper body lifts by using 1.25 lb micro plates, it allows for better progress.

Also, your form may not be optimal. You have to do scapula retraction and go all the way down, and pause for 1-2 seconds on your chest for optimal chest activation for more strength and more muscle growth.

Look at this video and compare it to your form:



Most guys fuck up the bench press by not doing proper scapula retraction, without scapula retraction, you are going to use your shoulders a lot more than your chest. Scapula retraction forces you to use only your chest and your arms.

Also, if you do skullcrushers and curls at the end of your upper body workouts, you can gain strength in your arms and bench press more weight as a result, that is why arm work is essential, but you only need 1 exercise for the biceps and 1 exercise for the triceps, you don't need 5 exercises for each.

Yeah I'm on a decent program right now and just bought 1.25 plates so I could add weight every workout instead of doing the same lifts at the same weight twice a week. It's good cuz you add weight without really feeling it which is good for the mental connection that can demoralize you sometimes. I also do skull crushers on my push days but I didn't think those had a huge impact, good to know. Working on my form too and have made progress there.
 
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Have seen skinny guys who are naturally very strong and guys who go to gym and can't open a can of coffee "moccona".
How do you explain this?
There are 2 reasons for this.

The first reason is that a lot of guys nowadays are on steroids, and steroids allow you to gain a lot of muscle mass without getting very strong, which is something that is impossible if you are a natural lifter.

The second reason is that there are some guys with good genetics for bodybuilding who already have big arms before they start lifting and their arms grow much faster when they lift weights than anybody else, for the same kind of training, so they have good genetics for bodybuilding but not for powerlifting. Meanwhile, the guys who are skinny but very strong have bad genetics for bodybuilding but great genetics for powerlifting, but even they can get really muscular, it just means that they will need to get a lot stronger, but since their muscular potential is higher, they will be way stronger than most guys for the same amount of size, it may take them longer to get there though. I fit into that category.

Also, the skinny guys who are strong tend to have good leverages for the exercise. For deadlifts, the guys who are the best are the ones who have long arms and long legs because the range of motion is much smaller for them. For the bench press, it's guys who have short arms who have the advantage, and for squats, it's guys who have short legs, because the range of motion is shorter.
Tall guys tend to have an advantage pulls (except for the pull up/chin up) while short guys tend to have an advantage on pushing movements.

This is why, as a 6 foot 4 tall guy, my best lifts are the yates row and the deadlift, not just in terms of absolute strength but compared to how big my muscles are. It is highly likely that even when I will be able to deadlift 405 lbs, my legs still won't look huge, which means my strength potential is higher.

A short guy could bench press 405 lbs after many years of training, while a tall guy could deadlift 600 lbs or more after many years of training.
 
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Yeah I'm on a decent program right now and just bought 1.25 plates so I could add weight every workout instead of doing the same lifts at the same weight twice a week. It's good cuz you add weight without really feeling it which is good for the mental connection that can demoralize you sometimes. I also do skull crushers on my push days but I didn't think those had a huge impact, good to know. Working on my form too and have made progress there.
Skullcrushers only have an impact if you get strong on them. To do this, you must do your reps as fast as on the compound movements, and you must induce progressive overload when you can do the number of reps that you want. In my case, I stay within the 6-10 rep range because that is what works best for me.
 
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Legit copied your question into google. Stop posting these stupid ass threads. Google is free, use it. There’s scientifically proven answers. But nope lets go ask the incel site:feelsuhh:
 
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Yes, of course it makes you stronger. I don't know why people do this weird cope and pretend like weighlifting strength has no application in real life. There is a reason that athletes from all kinds of different sports weight train.

If you want get stronger in everyday life, you must hike, play euro football, and box or wrestle.
Please explain to me how playing soccer is somehow going to make you stronger than weighlifting.

Imagine if you had Eddie Hall as one of your neighbors, and some skinny soccer player as another. One day, you need to move, and you decide to call up the soccer player because he's supposedly stronger than Eddie Hall. I think we all know that is bullshit.
 
Stronger as in cms adjusting to heavier loads? Yea

Actual strength? Hmm
 

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