does height and muscles matter or not?

[Virgin at 29 😔]

im always reading different things here idk what is true.

in my personal experience height didn't improved anything in my life, shorter guys always had more success. i think height is not important (just dont be shorter than her) but since i work out like 4 months with good results ive been treated better and got alot of compliments on my body (even tho im still skinny)

 

[Deleted member 17525]

im always reading different things here idk what is true.

in my personal experience height didn't improved anything in my life, shorter guys always had more success. i think height is not important (just dont be shorter than her) but since i work out like 4 months with good results ive been treated better and got alot of compliments on my body (even tho im still skinny)

No I think women like skinnyfat midgets

 

[Virgin at 29 😔]

No I think women like skinnyfat midgets

not midgets but like 170cm is okay. and body idk they cant see it anyway

 

[Deleted member 2130]

Height is overrated, muscles are underrated here. Both matter but less than face and frame

 

[Deleted member 18931]

height 100% halos me. I am average looking but if I wasn't 191cm/6'3 I would 100% still be a virgin.

 

[Virgin at 29 😔]

height 100% halos me. I am average looking but if I wasn't 191cm/6'3 I would 100% still be a virgin.

a girl fucked u cuz u r tall? whats your laycount

 

[Deleted member 18931]

a girl fucked u cuz u r tall? whats your laycount

I've only had asian girls and it's 5. Haven't had sex in like 6 months

 

[Virgin at 29 😔]

I've only had asian girls and it's 5. Haven't had sex in like 6 months

r u white? probably that was the reason not your height

 

[Deleted member 18931]

r u white? probably that was the reason not your height

I think you rated me before on another thread; yeah I'm white and bloated lol

 

[the BULL]

Ofc they do. Height Is height (good for both genders) while muscles Is like tits and ass on girls

 

[Virgin at 29 😔]

I think you rated me before on another thread; yeah I'm white and bloated lol

u have godlike smv to asian women

 

[Hueless]

Better than having nothing

 

[Deleted member 18931]

u have godlike smv to asian women

it's only good for ethnic/asian women. Still need to be gl to get decent white girl

 

[EasternRightWinger15]

having good body adds to sex appeal and good height multiplies it (midget tier can be over tho)

 

[Zylk]

Height, body and muscles.

You have to have all three and they can be an incredible halo, it's not enough to have height because you can have a subhuman frame, a 4/10 face, be 6'4 and you won't attract the attention of many women.

And the same if you have only body and muscles, if you are 5'3 it is the same that many women will discard you.


Trevor Signorino is the perfect example of having it all.

Body, face, muscles and height (6'2).

 

[Virgin at 29 😔]

Height, body and muscles.

You have to have all three and they can be an incredible halo, it's not enough to have height because you can have a subhuman frame, a 4/10 face, be 6'4 and you won't attract the attention of many women.

And the same if you have only body and muscles, if you are 5'3 it is the same that many women will discard you.

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Trevor Signorino is the perfect example of having it all.

Body, face, muscles and height (6'2).

what about height+body but average face

 

[Constantin Denis]

i think height is not important (just dont be shorter than her

 

[Zylk]

what about height+body but average face

It's really good, but not ideal

 

[Virgin at 29 😔]

It's really good, but not ideal

but why girls seem to prefer skinny short guys?

 

[Deleted member 18931]

but why girls seem to prefer skinny short guys?

maybe they have good looking face?

 

[Virgin at 29 😔]

maybe they have good looking face?

so good face is better than average face with good body and height

 

[Deleted member 19499]

Height and Muscles combined can net you 1 pt of increase SMV. Let's say you're a 5/10 4PSL normalfag. With good height and muscles you can become 6/10 5PSL HTN. Face is always the most important since that's your base value before factoring in everything else.

 

[Deleted member 18840]

but why girls seem to prefer skinny short guys?

Cuz face mogs. U slayed 1 girl only right?

 

[Deleted member 18840]

Height and Muscles combined can net you 1 pt of increase SMV. Let's say you're a 5/10 4PSL normalfag. With good height and muscles you can become 6/10 5PSL HTN. Face is always the most important since that's your base value before factoring in everything else.

And body alone with lifts?

 

[Deleted member 18931]

so good face is better than average face with good body and height

I think if you are short but gl some women might discard you because of you're height but you will still get chicks who are as tall or shorter than you because you are gl. Tall+avg face has a wider appeal meaning that more girls will be interested but they might not be gl because you only have an average face.

 

[Virgin at 29 😔]

Cuz face mogs. U slayed 1 girl only right?

yes

 

[Deleted member 18840]

yes

Pm face of her.

 

[Deleted member 19499]

And body alone with lifts?

I've always said that 3" is the bare minimum to get into the next height rank. In the US, if you go from 5'7 to 5'10 you no longer have a manlet tax and if you go from 5'10 to 6'1 you get a height boost halo. Most lifts won't get you to 3" unless you're wearing heavy boots. For the borderline cases such as myself (5'11 king of manlets), even 1-2" lifts can get me that height halo in the US.

 

[Virgin at 29 😔]

Pm face of her.

why

 

[Deleted member 18840]

I've always said that 3" is the bare minimum to get into the next height rank. In the US, if you go from 5'7 to 5'10 you no longer have a manlet tax and if you go from 5'10 to 6'1 you get a height boost halo. Most lifts won't get you to 3" unless you're wearing heavy boots. For the borderline cases such as myself (5'11 king of manlets), even 1-2" lifts can get me that height halo in the US.

I wear 3 inches overall. 2 inch shoes w 2 inch lifts which is like 3 inch more than normies w shoes

 

[Deleted member 18840]

why

Why not ? Not gonna share.

 

[Zylk]

but why girls seem to prefer skinny short guys?

You are being very non-descriptive.

How short in height? And it's not about good body - skinny, because you can be skinny and still have good frame and bones and it's considered a good body.

Muscled is not as important as a good body, it's preferable to be skinny and have good ones, than to be muscled and have a shitty frame.

Also considers the face more important than the body and height.

 

[Deleted member 18397]

Face>Height>Muscle
But They all still matter and everyone should lift if they care about looksmaxing.

 

[Virgin at 29 😔]

You are being very non-descriptive.

How short in height? And it's not about good body - skinny, because you can be skinny and still have good frame and bones and it's considered a good body.

Muscled is not as important as a good body, it's preferable to be skinny and have good ones, than to be muscled and have a shitty frame.

Also considers the face more important than the body and height.

wait so whats the difference between muscles and a good body

 

[Virgin at 29 😔]

I wear 3 inches overall. 2 inch shoes w 2 inch lifts which is like 3 inch more than normies w shoes

why tho? how tall r h

 

[Deleted member 18840]

why tho? how tall r h

Close to 6ft with a good face but not lean and not muscular yet

 

[Virgin at 29 😔]

Close to 6ft

without lifts? thats good tho

 

[Deleted member 18840]

without lifts? thats good tho

Yes without. Im aspie. I want to mog. My face is like close to 6 psl and im not even lean

 

[Virgin at 29 😔]

Yes without. Im aspie. I want to mog. My face is like close to 6 psl and im not even lean

what is 6psl in the normal scale? can u pm me face

 

[Deleted member 18840]

what is 6psl in the normal scale? can u pm me face

Like 7.5/10 or a bit more

 

[Virgin at 29 😔]

Like 7.5/10 or a bit more

r u white?

 

[Deleted member 18840]

r u white?

Nah im ethnic but it doesnt failo me. I basically can have a new above average white girl every week or more

 

[Deleted member 19499]

Face>Height>Muscle
But They all still matter and everyone should lift if they care about looksmaxing.
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Looks like a completely different person cause of the beard, hairstyle, and skin darkening as well.

 

[Bonez]

lean face and good muscles will get any pussy wet so muscles do matters but you should have at least 5 psl face for good balance

 

[Deleted member 18397]

Looks like a completely different person cause of the beard, hairstyle, and skin darkening as well.

Yeah, there is alot you can do if you aren’t truecel tier to improve your looks.

 

[Zylk]

wait so whats the difference between muscles and a good body

Genetics.

A good body tends to have broad shoulders and a V-shaped waist, the closer you are to this shape the more masculine you will look.


Muscles and a bad body can be seen as the guy has a small frame and wide hips, a feminine characteristic.

You can train hard and consume roids, but your body will look weirder and weaker than someone genetically superior with an untrained body.

 

[Deleted member 18397]

I wear 3 inches overall. 2 inch shoes w 2 inch lifts which is like 3 inch more than normies w shoes

Wearing that much lifts will only make you more insecure and is counterproductive.

Nah im ethnic but it doesnt failo me. I basically can have a new above average white girl every week or more

Then why don’t you? Why are you here?

 

[Deleted member 18840]

Wearing that much lifts will only make you more insecure and is counterproductive.

Then why don’t you? Why are you here?

Because i used to rott here. And its better than most female interactions for my non nt brain. Its hard to fake it 24/7 and because i
Still have to ascend.

 

[Deleted member 18397]

Because i used to rott here. And its better than most female interactions for my non nt brain. Its hard to fake it 24/7 and because i
Still have to ascend.

You don’t have a non bt brain. It turned this way because of spending too much time here and places where you shouldn’t. Leave this place and just go out on dates if you can it’ll be more beneficial to you.

 

[Deleted member 18840]

You don’t have a non bt brain. It turned this way because of spending too much time here and places where you shouldn’t. Leave this place and just go out on dates if you can it’ll be more beneficial to you.

Dates are hard bro. Its 50/50 i swear. Either the girl is just super turned on by me and want to fuck no matter what or else i have to play chess with her, saying the right thing at the right time, being funny etc. I’m starting to get better but each time i don’t get laid off a date i put it on my looks lacking and it kills my confidence.