Does injecting test have any effects on the bideltoid width if growth plates are open?

[GrayEyedBarrett]

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[Deleted member 6538]

I think so

 

[Greeicy]

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I think so

What a subhuman

 

[Deleted member 2632]

Injecting Test is the smartest thing you can do

Just LOL at not injecting at 19 years old

 

[GrayEyedBarrett]

Injecting Test is the smartest thing you can do

Just LOL at not injecting at 19 years old

what about building a natty base im gonna have to come off? Could i keep most of my gains also im still in like the last stage of puberty i think and im 20. Should i just say fuck it and do it? Im high t already but it would have more masculine effects on the face right?

 

[Alesund]

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I think so

His clavicles are the same size, the muscle mass added to his shoulders and lats make him wider, but not by a huge amount

 

[Deleted member 2632]

what about building a natty base im gonna have to come off? Could i keep most of my gains also im still in like the last stage of puberty i think and im 20. Should i just say fuck it and do it? Im high t already but it would have more masculine effects on the face right?

You will not keep all of your gains but you wont lose all either

Once you inject your are never natty again, I can find a study that proves roids give perma gains

You might be able to keep 20% of the gains

Test is amazing, it gave me amazing growth of my mandible over 4 years time, but it also just makes you feel like a God and you love the way you look in the mirror when lifting you will be sliced and also look big in Tshirts

Girls dont care much about muscles tho, its a small bonus at best they only want the chiseled face

 

[Nero]

If anything it would stall growth. Muscle mass is much easier to gain than bone and will make much more of a difference in a shorter amount of time than an inch or 2 of bone unless you’re truly a framelet. Ratios are more important than raw numbers anyways. If you had normal development I wouldn’t worry about it unless you’re ready to hop on hgh or other stuff as well.

 

[BigBiceps]

Injecting Test is the smartest thing you can do

Just LOL at not injecting at 19 years old

Dumb as fuck to inject as underage unless you're already like 6'3+. It WILL stunt your growth.

 

[GrayEyedBarrett]

You will not keep all of your gains but you wont lose all either

Once you inject your are never natty again, I can find a study that proves roids give perma gains

You might be able to keep 20% of the gains

Test is amazing, it gave me amazing growth of my mandible over 4 years time, but it also just makes you feel like a God and you love the way you look in the mirror when lifting you will be sliced and also look big in Tshirts

Girls dont care much about muscles tho, its a small bonus at best they only want the chiseled face

Mainly doing it for mandibular and maxillary growth if stacking with mk677 I feel like i could get good results but idk Kinda scared for the sides cuz I already struggle with acne and my hair density isn’t the greatest so those are my main concerns.

Dumb as fuck to inject as underage unless you're already like 6'3+. It WILL stunt your growth.

I thought estrogen stunted growth?

 

[BigBiceps]

Mainly doing it for mandibular and maxillary growth if stacking with mk677 I feel like i could get good results but idk Kinda scared for the sides cuz I already struggle with acne and my hair density isn’t the greatest so those are my main concerns.

I thought estrogen stunted growth?

I'm not exactly sure is it testo or whatever else in steroids, but they for sure will cause bones to mature faster and thus stunt your growth.

 

[GrayEyedBarrett]

I'm not exactly sure is it testo or whatever else in steroids, but they for sure will cause bones to mature faster and thus stunt your growth.

My guess would be the extra test aromatizes to estrogen causing gyno and growth plate closure but I would assume arimidex or some ai could prevent that. At the same time I think i will stick with mk677 and cardarine until I am finished growing i dont wanna fuck my hormones up

 

[BigBiceps]

My guess would be the extra test aromatizes to estrogen causing gyno and growth plate closure but I would assume arimidex or some ai could prevent that. At the same time I think i will stick with mk677 and cardarine until I am finished growing i dont wanna fuck my hormones up

Nah, it's not estro in that case. It happens even if you use aromatase inhibitors like most roiders do.

 

[Deleted member 2632]

Dumb as fuck to inject as underage unless you're already like 6'3+. It WILL stunt your growth.

Scientific source ?

 

[GrayEyedBarrett]

Nah, it's not estro in that case. It happens even if you use aromatase inhibitors like most roiders do.

Maybe prolactin? Might depend on the compound used but idk

 

[SkinjobCatastrophe]

That depends. Obviously if you gain a bunch of muscle and then measure it there will be no way to tell if your width gain is from the muscle, from the bone, or a combination of the two. Even with testosterone usually your bones will not grow in any direction more than they would have other than the up direction - making you taller.

If you take test and your growth plates are still open you cant really lose. You will either not get any benefits on it from your bone growth, so you will not be any worse off than when you started, or you will experience some gains in both bone growth and muscle growth.

 

[BigBiceps]

Scientific source ?

You can just search for yourself with ''steroids stunted growth''. I'm going to bed.

 

[KingOfRome]

You'd be better off blasting growth hormone for your bones, but the deltoid heads have more androgen receptors and respond very well to steroids. Unless you're a millionaire (supraphysiological GH doses are ludicrously expensive), blasting test and tren while performing shoulder exercises is your best hope for increasing your bideltoid once you're sure your bones are done growing naturally.

 

[GrayEyedBarrett]

You'd be better off blasting growth hormone for your bones, but the deltoid heads have more androgen receptors and respond very well to steroids. Unless you're a millionaire (supraphysiological GH doses are ludicrously expensive), blasting test and tren while performing shoulder exercises is your best hope for increasing your bideltoid once you're sure your bones are done growing naturally.

yeah idk tbh im still growing taller i think and my midpalatal suture is not fused if that means anything i think im just gonna do what i can to naturally increase test and do shoulder exercises i dont wanna be limp dicked by 30

 

[Deleted member 2632]

You'd be better off blasting growth hormone for your bones, but the deltoid heads have more androgen receptors and respond very well to steroids. Unless you're a millionaire (supraphysiological GH doses are ludicrously expensive), blasting test and tren while performing shoulder exercises is your best hope for increasing your bideltoid once you're sure your bones are done growing naturally.

I would be very careful with Tren, it is known for scalping people very quickly make sure you have finasteride on hand

Also it has crazy sides, you will sweat the bed and emotions are fuzzy on Tren

 

[KingOfRome]

I would be very careful with Tren, it is known for scalping people very quickly make sure you have finasteride on hand

Also it has crazy sides, you will sweat the bed and emotions are fuzzy on Tren

I definitely had night sweats on tren, but I didn't notice any differences emotionally, maybe a bit more irritable.

 

[GrayEyedBarrett]

I definitely had night sweats on tren, but I didn't notice any differences emotionally, maybe a bit more irritable.

fuck that if i got more irritable i would be out of control tbh i already kinda am im aggressive

 

[KingOfRome]

fuck that if i got more irritable i would be out of control tbh i already kinda am im aggressive

Yeah, there is an element of truth to the "roid rage" stereotype, but it mostly applies to tren. I'm kind of lucky that tren agrees with me... about as well as it'll agree with anyone, anyway. Tren is tough love.